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* Frollo's sexual obsession with Esmerelda in ''WesternAnimation/{{The Hunchback of Notre Dame|Disney}}''.

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* Frollo's sexual obsession with Esmerelda Esmeralda in ''WesternAnimation/{{The Hunchback of Notre Dame|Disney}}''.



* ''Literature/BloodMeridian'': There's a couple moments suggesting this between [[AmbiguouslyHuman Judge Holden]] and the Kid towards the end, which is unsettling because the Kid is 16 for the majority of the book and Holden is either shown or implied to do various horrible things to other children throughout the story, not to mention his other horrific activities against adults. When the Judge visits the Kid in his jail cell near the end, he speaks more tenderly to him than to anyone else in the whole novel, saying he'd have loved him like a son, and he orders the Kid to come over so he can touch him, which he rightly refuses to do since Holden [[spoiler: recently tried to hunt down and kill him after the gang fell apart.]] In the end, after the Kid encounters the Judge once more as an adult years later, the latter is said to [[spoiler: ambush him in an outhouse while naked and press him against his flesh in a terrible embrace, with the Kid's fate afterwards [[UncertainDoom being uncertain.]]]]

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* ''Literature/BloodMeridian'': There's a couple moments suggesting this between [[AmbiguouslyHuman Judge Holden]] and the Kid towards the end, which is unsettling because the Kid is 16 for the majority of the book and Holden is either shown or implied to do various horrible things to other children throughout the story, not to mention his other horrific activities against adults. When the Judge visits the Kid in his jail cell near the end, he speaks more tenderly to him than to anyone else in the whole novel, saying he'd have loved him like a son, and he orders the Kid to come over so he can touch him, which he rightly refuses to do since Holden [[spoiler: recently [[spoiler:recently tried to hunt down and kill him after the gang fell apart.]] In the end, after the Kid encounters the Judge once more as an adult years later, the latter is said to [[spoiler: ambush [[spoiler:ambush him in an outhouse while naked and press him against his flesh in a terrible embrace, with the Kid's fate afterwards [[UncertainDoom being uncertain.]]]]
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* In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/46829815 Fridays are for Handling]]'' (based on ''Film/Ghostbusters1984'') Egon is [[SlashFic paired with Ray]]. What makes this No Yay is that Egon previously copped a feel on Ray ''while the latter was asleep''.

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* In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/46829815 Fridays are for Handling]]'' (based on ''Film/Ghostbusters1984'') ''Film/{{Ghostbusters|1984}}'') Egon is [[SlashFic paired with Ray]]. What makes this No Yay is that Egon previously copped a feel on Ray ''while the latter was asleep''.

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Crosswicking; also, the Chip and Dale movie is live-action, therefore it should be in the live-action movie folder rather than the animated one.





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* The ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' fanfic ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4949127/1/Deterioration_of_Reason Deterioration of Reason]]'' has the demon Belial, who is not afraid to tell Castiel or anyone else how much he would love to ravish and devour Castiel. He clearly enjoys torturing Castiel and after injecting demon blood into him, Belial taunts him how he was ''inside'' of him. Oh and Belial was once an archangel and hence Castiel's older brother.\

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* The ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' fanfic ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4949127/1/Deterioration_of_Reason Deterioration of Reason]]'' has the demon Belial, who is not afraid to tell Castiel or anyone else how much he would love to ravish and devour Castiel. He clearly enjoys torturing Castiel and after injecting demon blood into him, Belial taunts him how he was ''inside'' of him. Oh and Belial was once an archangel and hence Castiel's older brother.\



* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13828481/1/Ghostbusters-Forbidden-Desires Forbidden Desires]]'' (based on ''Film/Ghostbusters1984'') ships [[OriginalCharacter April]], a seventeen-year-old girl, with Egon, a ''45''-year-old man.

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* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13828481/1/Ghostbusters-Forbidden-Desires Forbidden Desires]]'' (based on ''Film/Ghostbusters1984'') ''Film/{{Ghostbusters|1984}}'') ships [[OriginalCharacter April]], a seventeen-year-old girl, with Egon, a ''45''-year-old man.



* ''Fanfic/TruePotential'': The general reaction to the ShipTease between [[spoiler:Kabuto and Isaribi]]. The author stated it was unintentional, and that he has no plans to hook them up.



* ''WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}}'': Jafar and Jasmine. Jafar is old and ugly and Jasmine is a young beautiful princess. Jafar wants to marry Jasmine (to gain the powers of the sultan but still...) and Jasmine has to ''kiss him'' in one scene to try to keep him from discovering Aladdin. Jafar orders the Genie to make Jasmine fall in love with him, and [[TermsOfEndangerment calls her "pussycat" and "my dear"]]. Iago (''who suggested'' the idea of Jafar marrying Jasmine in the first place) and Abu both make disgusted sounds when Jasmine kisses Jafar, and Aladdin also looks [[{{Squick}} Squicked]] out.
* ''Film/ChipNDaleRescueRangers'': Gadget and Zipper have gotten this reaction almost immediately. Mostly because, despite this movie portraying every character as AnimatedActors and Zipper clearly having [[Creator/DennisHaysbert an adult voice]], Zipper has always been considered a child or a "pet". So, to pair him off with an anthropomorphic character like Gadget comes across as incredibly off-putting.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}}'': Jafar and Jasmine. Jafar is old and ugly and Jasmine is a young beautiful princess. Jafar wants to marry Jasmine (to gain the powers of the sultan but still...) and Jasmine has to ''kiss him'' in one scene to try to keep him from discovering Aladdin. Jafar orders the Genie to make Jasmine fall in love with him, and [[TermsOfEndangerment calls her "pussycat" and "my dear"]]. Iago (''who suggested'' the idea of Jafar marrying Jasmine in the first place) and Abu both make disgusted sounds when Jasmine kisses Jafar, and Aladdin also looks [[{{Squick}} Squicked]] out.
* ''Film/ChipNDaleRescueRangers'': Gadget and Zipper have gotten this reaction almost immediately. Mostly because, despite this movie portraying every character as AnimatedActors and Zipper clearly having [[Creator/DennisHaysbert an adult voice]], Zipper has always been considered a child or a "pet". So, to pair him off with an anthropomorphic character like Gadget comes across as incredibly off-putting.
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989'': Ursula and Ariel. What with her calling Ariel things like "my child," "angelfish," "my dear sweet child," "sweet cakes," "poor little princess," and "my sweet," and her tendency to invade Ariel's personal space. As well as telling her if she can't get Prince Eric to kiss her on the third day, then as a consequence, she'll [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty "belong to me"/"will be mine."]] And at one point in the 'Poor Unfortunate Souls' song she moves her tentacle across Ariel's chest, with Ariel having to push it off. She was originally intended to be Ariel's ''aunt'', and was actually retconned to be such in the subsequent ScreenToStageAdaptation, which probably only makes it worse.

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* ''WesternAnimation/TheLittleMermaid1989'': ''WesternAnimation/{{The Little Mermaid|1989}}'': Ursula and Ariel. What with her calling Ariel things like "my child," "angelfish," "my dear sweet child," "sweet cakes," "poor little princess," and "my sweet," and her tendency to invade Ariel's personal space. As well as telling her if she can't get Prince Eric to kiss her on the third day, then as a consequence, she'll [[IHaveYouNowMyPretty "belong to me"/"will be mine."]] And at one point in the 'Poor Unfortunate Souls' song she moves her tentacle across Ariel's chest, with Ariel having to push it off. She was originally intended to be Ariel's ''aunt'', and was actually retconned to be such in the subsequent ScreenToStageAdaptation, which probably only makes it worse.



-->'''Devon''': Frankly, we're the reason cousins shouldn't marry.

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-->'''Woody''': [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 If you couldn't have her, no one could!]]

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-->'''Frank''': ''(to Jeffrey)'' ''Pretty... pretty... pretty... pretty...'' '''Pretty!'''

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-->'''Frank''': -->'''Frank:''' ''(to Jeffrey)'' ''Pretty... pretty... pretty... pretty...'' '''Pretty!'''



* ''Film/ChipNDaleRescueRangers2022'': Gadget and Zipper have gotten this reaction almost immediately. Mostly because, despite this movie portraying every character as AnimatedActors and Zipper clearly having [[Creator/DennisHaysbert an adult voice]], Zipper has always been considered a child or a "pet". So, to pair him off with an anthropomorphic character like Gadget comes across as incredibly off-putting.



* Jareth/Sarah from ''Film/{{Labyrinth}}''. Nearly forty Music/DavidBowie in ''criminally'' [[PaintedOnPants tight pants]] asking a fourteen-year-old Creator/JenniferConnelly to stay with him forever. And a FreezeFrameBonus shows that Sarah's mother ran off with the ''real'' David Bowie, adding some interesting subtext to the whole situation. And according to Creator/JimHenson it was 100% intentional.
-->David Bowie embodies a certain maturity, with his sexuality, his disturbing aspect, all sorts of things that characterize the adult world.

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* Jareth/Sarah from ''Film/{{Labyrinth}}''. Nearly forty Music/DavidBowie in ''criminally'' [[PaintedOnPants tight pants]] asking a fourteen-year-old Creator/JenniferConnelly to stay with him forever. And a FreezeFrameBonus shows that Sarah's mother ran off with the ''real'' David Bowie, adding some interesting subtext to the whole situation. And according to Creator/JimHenson Creator/JimHenson, it was 100% intentional.
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Bowie embodies a certain maturity, with his sexuality, his disturbing aspect, all sorts of things that characterize the adult world."



--> '''Annie Wilkes:''' I'm your number one fan...

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-->'''Christof''': (To Truman) You're afraid. That's why you can't leave. It's okay, Truman. I understand. I have been watching you your whole life. I was watching when you were born. I was watching when you took your first step. I watched you on your first day of school. Heh heh. The episode when you lost your first tooth, heh heh... You can't leave, Truman. You belong here... With me. Talk to me. Say something.

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-->'''Christof''': -->'''Christof:''' (To Truman) You're afraid. That's why you can't leave. It's okay, Truman. I understand. I have been watching you your whole life. I was watching when you were born. I was watching when you took your first step. I watched you on your first day of school. Heh heh. The episode when you lost your first tooth, heh heh... You can't leave, Truman. You belong here... With me. Talk to me. Say something.



--> '''Sam''': Me...You Want me! '''Drake''': Yes Sam, I want you. And you're just going to lie there and take it! Because if you don't....
--> '''Drake''': I broke her legs so she couldn't run. She was screaming...But I think she liked it.
--> '''Drake''': Oh hey Astrid. Wait a sec, I'll be right back. Then I can come up and play.
-->"He'd take his sweet time with Astrid. And even longer with Diana."

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--> '''Sam''': -->'''Sam:''' Me...You Want me! '''Drake''': Yes Sam, I want you. And you're just going to lie there and take it! Because if you don't....
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I broke her legs so she couldn't run. She was screaming...But I think she liked it.
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* ''Literature/{{Touch 2017}}'' has Father, a serial child molester with [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul mind control]] powers, using said powers on Casper, a thirteen-year-old boy. The subtext of the scene is... very clear. Luckily, Casper is able to use [[TheEmpath his own powers]] to get out of there before things progress too far.

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* ''Literature/{{Touch 2017}}'' ''Literature/{{Touch|2017}}'' has Father, a serial child molester with [[GettingSmiliesPaintedOnYourSoul mind control]] powers, using said powers on Casper, a thirteen-year-old boy. The subtext of the scene is... very clear. Luckily, Casper is able to use [[TheEmpath his own powers]] to get out of there before things progress too far.



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* ''Film/OutOfDarkness'': The ending sets up an AdamAndEvePlot with Beyah, a twenty-something woman, and Heron, an ''eleven-year-old boy''. At best it seems like inverted WifeHusbandry.

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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is ''not'' No Yay. Simply being unattractive by conventional standards is not enough; the pairing must have at least one objectively unhealthy element. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.

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Remember to note that an [[ImpliedLoveInterest implied relationship relationship]] between two consenting consenting, unrelated adults is ''not'' No Yay. Simply being unattractive by conventional standards is not enough; the pairing must have at least one objectively unhealthy element. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.



* The ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' comics provide quite a few examples; Clark Kent and Lori Lemaris ([[TheMermaidProblem a mermaid]]), Superman [[KissingCousins and]] ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}, Supergirl and Comet the Super Horse (a centaur [[ForcedTransformation cursed to be a horse]]), ''Lois Lane'' and Comet the Super Horse, and [[Comicbook/KryptoTheSuperdog Krypto]] and Comicbook/LanaLang in at least one story. Then there's the not infrequent subtext between Supes and ComicBook/LexLuthor, which becomes even more blatant when you realize that ComicBook/{{Superboy}} was made of a combination of their DNA.

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* The ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' comics provide quite a few examples; Clark Kent and Lori Lemaris ([[TheMermaidProblem a mermaid]]), Superman [[KissingCousins and]] ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}, Supergirl and Comet In the Super Horse (a centaur [[ForcedTransformation cursed to be a horse]]), ''Lois Lane'' and Comet ''Series/{{Angel}}'' comics, Illyria (an [[TimeAbyss ancient]] [[EldritchAbomination God-King]] who stole the Super Horse, and [[Comicbook/KryptoTheSuperdog Krypto]] and Comicbook/LanaLang in at least body of one story. Then there's of Angel's friends, killing her in the not infrequent subtext between Supes and ComicBook/LexLuthor, which becomes even more blatant when you realize process) decides that ComicBook/{{Superboy}} was made of a combination of their DNA.Connor (Angel's 19-year-old son) would be an acceptable person to procreate with, since it's her mating season. Angel is not pleased and neither is Connor.



* Mr Sinister has an obsession with Comicbook/{{Cyclops}}' genes that would normally lead to FoeYayShipping, except for the fact that Scott lived in Sinister's OrphanageOfFear as a young boy (from around the age of eleven) and underwent MindRape and experiments from the supervillain. As Sinister's treatment of Adult Cyclops is incredibly homoerotic, and a large amount of their interactions involve him touching his face and gazing at it admiringly, it becomes very hard not to think that he did the same when Scott was in his care.



* ''ComicBook/TheJudasContract'' gets in-universe hebephilia with a canonical sexual relationship between Slade and Terra. Slade, a middle-aged man, and Terra, a 16-year-old.



* ''Franchise/TheSmurfs'': Papa Smurf and Smurfette. In the comic books and the cartoon show, the idea that Papa Smurf would have an amorous interest in Smurfette was just all levels of creepy and wrong. Thankfully averted in the Sony Pictures live-action film series, where Papa Smurf treats Smurfette as a step-daughter.
* ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan2013'': Doc Ock flirting with Aunt May while in the body of her nephew Peter Parker not only disgusts Peter's ghost, but likely the readers too.
* The ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' comics provide quite a few examples; Clark Kent and Lori Lemaris ([[TheMermaidProblem a mermaid]]), Superman [[KissingCousins and]] ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}, Supergirl and Comet the Super Horse (a centaur [[ForcedTransformation cursed to be a horse]]), ''Lois Lane'' and Comet the Super Horse, and [[Comicbook/KryptoTheSuperdog Krypto]] and Comicbook/LanaLang in at least one story. Then there's the not infrequent subtext between Supes and ComicBook/LexLuthor, which becomes even more blatant when you realize that ComicBook/{{Superboy}} was made of a combination of their DNA.



* ''ComicBook/TheJudasContract'' gets in-universe hebephilia with a canonical sexual relationship between Slade and Terra. Slade, a middle-aged man, and Terra, a 16-year-old.
* In the ''Series/{{Angel}}'' comics, Illyria (an [[TimeAbyss ancient]] [[EldritchAbomination God-King]] who stole the body of one of Angel's friends, killing her in the process) decides that Connor (Angel's 19-year-old son) would be an acceptable person to procreate with, since it's her mating season. Angel is not pleased and neither is Connor.
* Mr Sinister has an obsession with Comicbook/{{Cyclops}}' genes that would normally lead to FoeYayShipping, except for the fact that Scott lived in Sinister's OrphanageOfFear as a young boy (from around the age of eleven) and underwent MindRape and experiments from the supervillain. As Sinister's treatment of Adult Cyclops is incredibly homoerotic, and a large amount of their interactions involve him touching his face and gazing at it admiringly, it becomes very hard not to think that he did the same when Scott was in his care.
* ''Franchise/TheSmurfs'': Papa Smurf and Smurfette. In the comic books and the cartoon show, the idea that Papa Smurf would have an amorous interest in Smurfette was just all levels of creepy and wrong. Thankfully averted in the Sony Pictures live-action film series, where Papa Smurf treats Smurfette as a step-daughter.
* ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan2013'': Doc Ock flirting with Aunt May while in the body of her nephew Peter Parker not only disgusts Peter's ghost, but likely the readers too.



* The ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' fanfic ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4949127/1/Deterioration_of_Reason Deterioration of Reason]]'' has the demon Belial, who is not afraid to tell Castiel or anyone else how much he would love to ravish and devour Castiel. He clearly enjoys torturing Castiel and after injecting demon blood into him, Belial taunts him how he was ''inside'' of him. Oh and Belial was once an archangel and hence Castiel's older brother.\
* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12191053/1/First-love First Love]]'' (based on ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse'') compares romantic love to familial love a few too many times, and has Lynn and Lincoln, who are siblings, refer to each other as their "first love". In fact, the summary outright says that the story could be interpreted as "comfy incest".
* ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13828481/1/Ghostbusters-Forbidden-Desires Forbidden Desires]]'' (based on ''Film/Ghostbusters1984'') ships [[OriginalCharacter April]], a seventeen-year-old girl, with Egon, a ''45''-year-old man.
* In ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/46829815 Fridays are for Handling]]'' (based on ''Film/Ghostbusters1984'') Egon is [[SlashFic paired with Ray]]. What makes this No Yay is that Egon previously copped a feel on Ray ''while the latter was asleep''.
* ''Fanfic/GalPals'': Some of the girls' compliments towards Lincoln sound way too romantic, considering he's a preteen and most of them are in their late teens, with a few even being young ''adults''. For instance, they pretend to FaintInShock at how handsome he is, and one of them says that he'd make a good boyfriend if only he was older.



* ''Fanfic/{{Luminosity}}'': The pedophilia inherent in the [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Addy]]/five-year-old Elspeth shipping meant the author actually changed the chapter break to avoid it in the future. The original ending line of [[http://luminous.elcenia.com/radiance/ch14.shtml chapter 14]] was:
-->''[[ItMakesSenseInContext I'm very curious about what just happened, Elspeth; why don't we go settle somewhere comfortable, in your room, and try again?]]''
* The ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' fanfic ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4949127/1/Deterioration_of_Reason Deterioration of Reason]]'' has the demon Belial, who is not afraid to tell Castiel or anyone else how much he would love to ravish and devour Castiel. He clearly enjoys torturing Castiel and after injecting demon blood into him, Belial taunts him how he was ''inside'' of him. Oh and Belial was once an archangel and hence Castiel's older brother.


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* Stories by [[https://www.deviantart.com/jgodzilla1212 jgodzilla1212]] often have Carol being [[MistakenForRomance mistaken for Lincoln's girlfriend]]. He responded to the users' comments regarding this being creepy by adding a RunningGag of her being MistakenForPedophile.


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* ''Fanfic/{{Luminosity}}'': The pedophilia inherent in the [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Addy]]/five-year-old Elspeth shipping meant the author actually changed the chapter break to avoid it in the future. The original ending line of [[http://luminous.elcenia.com/radiance/ch14.shtml chapter 14]] was:
-->''[[ItMakesSenseInContext I'm very curious about what just happened, Elspeth; why don't we go settle somewhere comfortable, in your room, and try again?]]''


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* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13348257/1/Sir-Hugs-A-Lot Sir Hugs-a-Lot]]'' (based on ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse''), Luan, when commenting on how Lincoln (her brother) is the only boy who laughs at her jokes, says that "Incest is wincest!".
* In ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12632051/1/Sleeping-Woes Sleeping Woes]]'' (based on ''WesternAnimation/TheLoudHouse''), Lucy seems way too keen to shower with Lincoln, her ''brother''.


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* InUniverse in ''WesternAnimation/OneHundredAndOneDalmatians'': Pongo, a dog, is looking for a girlfriend for his owner Roger, and remarks, "Too young" when he sees a little girl.


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* ''WesternAnimation/BeeMovie'': Barry, a bee, has a crush on Vanessa, a ''human''. One guy even asks if he's her "little bed bug".
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** Later on Snadhya gets this with another character who unfortunately for him ''is'' in the same room, [[spoiler:Jiaan, the bodyguard of Snadhya's niece Yami'ni]] who first got captured by her [[TheEmpath Empaths]] and {{Mind Rape}}d for what's implied to be ''weeks'' and then [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=9790 trotted out]] a completely broken man who is forced into a sadistic fight to the death as part of a deluded fool's EngagementChallenge, and while he manages to win his "reward" is [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=9993 nothing if not similar to being lobotomized]] and Snadhya's clearly predatory declaration that "[[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=9995 he is mine]]" after receiving her "safe" [[RedEyesTakeWarning taint]] is the icing on the {{Squick}} cake.

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** Later on Snadhya gets this with another character who unfortunately for him ''is'' in the same room, character, [[spoiler:Jiaan, the bodyguard of Snadhya's niece Yami'ni]] who first got captured by her [[TheEmpath Empaths]] and {{Mind Rape}}d for what's implied to be ''weeks'' and then [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=9790 trotted out]] a completely broken man who is forced into a sadistic fight to the death as part of a deluded fool's EngagementChallenge, and while he manages to win his "reward" is [[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=9993 nothing if not similar to being lobotomized]] and Snadhya's clearly predatory declaration that "[[http://www.drowtales.com/mainarchive.php?sid=9995 he is mine]]" after receiving her "safe" [[RedEyesTakeWarning taint]] is the icing on the {{Squick}} cake.
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** [[StupidEvil Ramsay Bolton's]] [[StockholmSyndrome relationship with his terrified "servants."]] And his relationship with his wives for that matter.

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* ''Literature/BloodMeridian'': There's a couple moments suggesting this between [[AmbiguouslyHuman Judge Holden]] and the Kid towards the end, which is unsettling because the Kid is 16 for the majority of the book and Holden is either shown or implied to do various horrible things to other children throughout the story, not to mention his other horrific activities against adults. When the Judge visits the Kid in his jail cell near the end, he speaks more tenderly to the Kid than to anyone else in the whole novel, saying he'd have loved the Kid like a son, and he orders the Kid to come over so he can touch him, which the Kid rightly refuses to do since Holden [[spoiler: recently tried to hunt down and kill him after the gang fell apart.]] In the end, after the Kid encounters the Judge once more as an adult years later, the latter is said to [[spoiler: ambush him in an outhouse while naked and press him against his flesh in a terrible embrace, with the Kid's fate afterwards [[UncertainDoom being uncertain.]]]]

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* ''Literature/BloodMeridian'': There's a couple moments suggesting this between [[AmbiguouslyHuman Judge Holden]] and the Kid towards the end, which is unsettling because the Kid is 16 for the majority of the book and Holden is either shown or implied to do various horrible things to other children throughout the story, not to mention his other horrific activities against adults. When the Judge visits the Kid in his jail cell near the end, he speaks more tenderly to the Kid him than to anyone else in the whole novel, saying he'd have loved the Kid him like a son, and he orders the Kid to come over so he can touch him, which the Kid he rightly refuses to do since Holden [[spoiler: recently tried to hunt down and kill him after the gang fell apart.]] In the end, after the Kid encounters the Judge once more as an adult years later, the latter is said to [[spoiler: ambush him in an outhouse while naked and press him against his flesh in a terrible embrace, with the Kid's fate afterwards [[UncertainDoom being uncertain.]]]]
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* ''Literature/BloodMeridian'': There's a couple moments suggesting this between [[AmbiguouslyHuman Judge Holden]] and the Kid towards the end, which is unsettling because the Kid is 16 for the majority of the book and Holden is either shown or implied to do various horrible things to other children throughout the story, not to mention his other horrific activities against adults. When the Judge visits the Kid in his jail cell near the end, he speaks more tenderly to the Kid than to anyone else in the whole novel, saying he'd have loved the Kid like a son, and he orders the Kid to come over so he can touch him, which the Kid rightly refuses to do since Holden [[spoiler: recently tried to hunt down and kill him after the gang fell apart.]] In the end, after the Kid encounters the Judge once more as an adult years later, the latter is said to [[spoiler: ambush him in an outhouse while naked and press him against his flesh in a terrible embrace, with the Kid's fate afterwards [[UncertainDoom being uncertain.]]]]
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-->-- '''[[ItMakesSenseInContext Courier Six's brain]]''', ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas: Old World Blues''

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* ''Film/ChipNDaleRescueRangers'': Gadget and Zipper have gotten this reaction almost immediately. Mostly because, despite this movie portraying every character as AnimatedActors and Zipper clearly having [[Creator/DennisHaysbert an adult voice]], Zipper has always been considered a child or a "pet". So, to pair him off with an anthropomorphic character like Gadget comes across as incredibly off-putting.



* ''Film/ChipNDaleRescueRangers'': Gadget and Zipper have gotten this reaction almost immediately. Mostly because, despite this movie portraying every character as AnimatedActors and Zipper clearly having [[Creator/DennisHaysbert an adult voice]], Zipper has always been considered a child or a "pet". So, to pair him off with an anthropomorphic character like Gadget comes across as incredibly off-putting.
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* ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'': Doc Ock flirting with Aunt May while in the body of her nephew Peter Parker not only disgusts Peter's ghost, but likely the readers too.

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* ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'': ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan2013'': Doc Ock flirting with Aunt May while in the body of her nephew Peter Parker not only disgusts Peter's ghost, but likely the readers too.
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* In the ''Literature/{{Outlander}}'' series, there's Captain John Randall towards [[HoYay Jamie]]. At first, it consists mostly of Randall having a dreamy look on his face every time Jamie shows defiance and resistance towards him, culminating in Dougal describing Randall's look as a guy who's hot on a girl. And ''then'', Randall shows that these impulses actually extend to being out-and-out sexual, revealing his desire for Jamie to "become his"... which eventually results in [[spoiler poor Jamie getting imprisoned, raped, and beaten (as part of [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence certain scenario]] that Randall is into) repeatedly]]. It gets worse when Randall is actually revealed to have probably been genuinely in love with him, in his own messed up way.

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* In the ''Literature/{{Outlander}}'' series, there's Captain John Randall towards [[HoYay Jamie]]. At first, it consists mostly of Randall having a dreamy look on his face every time Jamie shows defiance and resistance towards him, culminating in Dougal describing Randall's look as a guy who's hot on a girl. And ''then'', Randall shows that these impulses actually extend to being out-and-out sexual, revealing his desire for Jamie to "become his"... which eventually results in [[spoiler poor [[spoiler:poor Jamie getting imprisoned, raped, and beaten (as part of [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence certain scenario]] that Randall is into) repeatedly]]. It gets worse when Randall is actually revealed to have probably been genuinely in love with him, in his own messed up way.
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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is not No Yay. Simply being unattractive by conventional standards is not enough; the pairing must have at least one objectively unhealthy element. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.

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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is not ''not'' No Yay. Simply being unattractive by conventional standards is not enough; the pairing must have at least one objectively unhealthy element. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.
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* ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'': Doc Ock flirting with Aunt May while in the body of Peter Parker not only disgusts Peter's ghost, but likely the readers too.

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* ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'': Doc Ock flirting with Aunt May while in the body of her nephew Peter Parker not only disgusts Peter's ghost, but likely the readers too.
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* ''ComicBook/SuperiorSpiderMan'': Doc Ock flirting with Aunt May while in the body of Peter Parker not only disgusts Peter's ghost, but likely the readers too.
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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is not No Yay. Simply being unattractive by conventional standards is not enough; the presence of an unhealthy element is required. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.

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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is not No Yay. Simply being unattractive by conventional standards is not enough; the presence of an pairing must have at least one objectively unhealthy element is required.element. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.
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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is not No Yay. Simply being unattractive by conventional standards is not enough; the presence of a specifically unhealthy element is required. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.

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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is not No Yay. Simply being unattractive by conventional standards is not enough; the presence of a specifically an unhealthy element is required. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.
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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is not No Yay, even if the characters are not conventionally attractive. The presence of another element is required. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.

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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is not No Yay, even if Yay. Simply being unattractive by conventional standards is not enough; the characters are not conventionally attractive. The presence of another a specifically unhealthy element is required. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.
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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is not No Yay, even if the actors fail to sell the chemistry. The presence of another element is required. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.

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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is not No Yay, even if the actors fail to sell the chemistry.characters are not conventionally attractive. The presence of another element is required. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.
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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is not No Yay, and the presence of another element is required. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.

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Remember to note that an implied relationship between two consenting adults is not No Yay, and even if the actors fail to sell the chemistry. The presence of another element is required. When adding examples, please be sure to explain ''why'' that potential ship is a No Yay and what separates it from just regular HoYay or FoeYayShipping. Of course, one person's {{Squick}} is another person's {{Fetish}}, and this is a highly subjective trope. And if you're just here to complain about a pairing you don't like, please keep it off the main page.

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* [[spoiler:Resident ExtravertedNerd and FatComicRelief, Hifumi Yamada]] in ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc'' [[spoiler:falls in love with... [[ArtificialIntelligence Alter-Ego]], an advanced A.I. that was created by the recently deceased [[WholesomeCrossdresser Chihiro Fujisaki]] in order to [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture help the remaining students escape]] [[DeadlyGame the Killing Game]]. Hifumi constantly claimed to only be interested in 2D Women, [[PerverseSexualLust which goes far beyond what you might expect]] and falls head over heels with the A.I., even Kyoko mentions having found him hugging the laptop, even ignoring the fact that Alter-ego's main avatar [[ReplacementGoldfish looks exactly like Chihiro]] and that [[UnsettlingGenderReveal the real Chihro was male]]. He also gets biased with Kiyotaka Ishimaru when Alter-Ego adopts an avatar of Mondo Owada, Taka's first and OnlyFriend ([[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] if Makoto completed his Free Time Events)]] [[spoiler:who was executed in the previous trial due to him being Chihiro's killer. Taka decides to use Alter-Ego as way of coping with Mondo's death, which triggers Hifumi's jealousy. Celestia Ludenberg, one of the people Hifumi was closest to, decides to [[ManipulativeBitch take advantage of the situation and use Alter-Ego as a way of manipulating Hifumi into murdering Ishimaru]] only to [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness finally kill him herself once his part was done]]. His relationship with Alter-Ego already sounds wrong to begin with, but what really crosses the line is the fact that he murdered an innocent man for a crime he did not commit without asking him for details (Celeste told Hifumi that Taka took Alter-Ego away and also made a FalseRapeAccusation against him, and Hifumi fell for all of that despite Celeste having no proof of either event whatsoever) and was willing to let everyone else get executed all for the sake of "his feelings".]]

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* [[spoiler:Resident ExtravertedNerd nerd and FatComicRelief, Hifumi Yamada]] in ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc'' [[spoiler:falls in love with... [[ArtificialIntelligence Alter-Ego]], an advanced A.I. that was created by the recently deceased [[WholesomeCrossdresser Chihiro Fujisaki]] in order to [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture help the remaining students escape]] [[DeadlyGame the Killing Game]]. Hifumi constantly claimed to only be interested in 2D Women, [[PerverseSexualLust which goes far beyond what you might expect]] and falls head over heels with the A.I., even Kyoko mentions having found him hugging the laptop, even ignoring the fact that Alter-ego's main avatar [[ReplacementGoldfish looks exactly like Chihiro]] and that [[UnsettlingGenderReveal the real Chihro was male]]. He also gets biased with Kiyotaka Ishimaru when Alter-Ego adopts an avatar of Mondo Owada, Taka's first and OnlyFriend ([[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] if Makoto completed his Free Time Events)]] [[spoiler:who was executed in the previous trial due to him being Chihiro's killer. Taka decides to use Alter-Ego as way of coping with Mondo's death, which triggers Hifumi's jealousy. Celestia Ludenberg, one of the people Hifumi was closest to, decides to [[ManipulativeBitch take advantage of the situation and use Alter-Ego as a way of manipulating Hifumi into murdering Ishimaru]] only to [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness finally kill him herself once his part was done]]. His relationship with Alter-Ego already sounds wrong to begin with, but what really crosses the line is the fact that he murdered an innocent man for a crime he did not commit without asking him for details (Celeste told Hifumi that Taka took Alter-Ego away and also made a FalseRapeAccusation against him, and Hifumi fell for all of that despite Celeste having no proof of either event whatsoever) and was willing to let everyone else get executed all for the sake of "his feelings".]]
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* Pretty much any fanfic with [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth and Cloud]] as a pairing. Especially if the writer tries to make Sephiroth's MindRape and generally abusive behavior romantic. This goes double for stories set before the Nibelheim Incident since Sephiroth was ''Approximately 20 to 23 years old'' when he started pursuing a 14-year old emotionally fragile Cloud in ''Crisis Core''.

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* Pretty much any fanfic with [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth and Cloud]] as a pairing. Especially if the writer tries to make Sephiroth's MindRape and generally abusive behavior romantic. This goes double for stories set before the Nibelheim Incident Incident, since Sephiroth was ''Approximately approximately 20 to 23 years old'' old when he started pursuing a 14-year old 14-year-old, emotionally fragile Cloud in ''Crisis Core''.



* ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe1'': Vector's flirty attitude toward Gru and Gru's obsession with outclassing him crosses the line into this trope when Vector keeps this up after he [[spoiler:kidnaps Gru's children and holds them hostage]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/DespicableMe1'': Vector's flirty attitude toward Gru and Gru's obsession with outclassing him crosses the line into this trope when Vector keeps this up the behavior after he [[spoiler:kidnaps Gru's children and holds them hostage]].
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* ''[[WebAnimation/Supermarioglitchy4sSuperMario64Bloopers SMG4]]'' has [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] and [[Franchise/{{Splatoon}} Meggy the Inkling]]. Playable Inklings are stated to be around 14, and WordOfGod confirms that Mario is in his mid-twenties.[[note]] Or older, as a "Classic-era" (pre-2016 and pre-{{retcon}}s) episode claims [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation SMG4's Mario]] was [[OlderThanTheyLook born in 1928]].[[/note]] After Meggy was [[HumanityEnsues transformed into a human]], the situation became even more problematic… but then less so over time, as Meggy is later shown having a driver's license[[labelnote:*]] (in [=SMG4's=] base of New South Wales, that puts her anywhere from 16-20 depending on what level of restriction, if any, she has)[[/labelnote]] and then attending university. In July 2021, Meggy claimed during a Q&A session she was 19. This has neither been confirmed nor denied by her creators who prefer keeping Meggy's age {{vague|Age}} to try and stop the shipping.

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* ''[[WebAnimation/Supermarioglitchy4sSuperMario64Bloopers SMG4]]'' has [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario]] and [[Franchise/{{Splatoon}} Meggy the Inkling]]. Playable Inklings are stated to be around 14, and WordOfGod confirms that Mario is in his mid-twenties.[[note]] Or older, as a "Classic-era" (pre-2016 (pre-2017 and pre-{{retcon}}s) episode claims [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation SMG4's Mario]] was [[OlderThanTheyLook born in 1928]].[[/note]] After Meggy was [[HumanityEnsues transformed into a human]], the situation became even more problematic… but then less so over time, as Meggy is later shown having a driver's license[[labelnote:*]] (in [=SMG4's=] base of New South Wales, that puts her anywhere from 16-20 depending on what level of restriction, if any, she has)[[/labelnote]] and then attending university. In July 2021, Meggy claimed during a Q&A session she was 19. This has neither been confirmed nor denied by her creators who prefer keeping Meggy's age {{vague|Age}} to try and stop the shipping.
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*** Admiral Holdo saying she likes Poe and cupping his cheek while he's unconscious made many fans uncomfortable due to their age gap, her status as his superior officer, their constant antagonism, and the inappropriateness of the gesture. According to WordOfGod, this is a very unfortunate [[TheArtifact artifact]] from an earlier version of the script where Poe and Holdo were the same age and had a SlapSlapKiss dynamic.
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* In ''Film/{{Ophelia}}'', there's a predatory slant to Claudius's interactions with Ophelia that's all kinds of creepy. For starters, Claudius is decades older than Ophelia (he's in his forties/fifties, she's indicated to be in her late teens) and there's a ''vast'' power difference between them, which he never lets her forget. He restrains her and [[NoSenseOfPersonalSpace invades her personal space]] several times; on one occasion he all but reaches down her bodice to pull out Hamlet's ring, which she's wearing around her neck on a ribbon. He has a weird interest in her relationship with Hamlet (for double-creepiness, Hamlet's his ''nephew''), comments on her sexuality and tries to [[spoiler: force her into a marriage]]. Ophelia feels intimidated by Claudius and can do little to stand up to him [[spoiler: unless she's literally pretending to be insane]].

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* In ''Film/{{Ophelia}}'', there's a predatory slant to Claudius's interactions with Ophelia that's all kinds of creepy. For starters, Claudius is decades older than Ophelia (he's in his forties/fifties, she's indicated to be in her late teens) and there's a ''vast'' power difference between them, which he never lets her forget. He restrains her and [[NoSenseOfPersonalSpace invades her personal space]] several times; on one occasion he all but reaches down her bodice to pull out Hamlet's ring, which she's wearing around her neck on a ribbon. He has a weird interest in her relationship with Hamlet (for double-creepiness, Hamlet's his ''nephew''), comments on her sexuality and tries to [[spoiler: force [[spoiler:force her into a marriage]]. Ophelia feels intimidated by Claudius and can do little to stand up to him [[spoiler: unless [[spoiler:unless she's literally pretending to be insane]].



*** The subtext between Rey and Snoke is incredibly creepy. [[spoiler: It was Snoke who linked her mind with Kylo's. When she first meets him he drags her over to him with the Force, puts his hand on her face, and compliments her "spunk" in a rather creepy way.]]

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*** The subtext between Rey and Snoke is incredibly creepy. [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It was Snoke who linked her mind with Kylo's. When she first meets him he drags her over to him with the Force, puts his hand on her face, and compliments her "spunk" in a rather creepy way.]]



** This is hinted at with Diary/[[spoiler:Horcrux]]! Tom Riddle and Possessed!Ginny. There's certainly MindRape involved, and he forces her to tell him all her secrets and do things she doesn't want to do. As she mentions in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix Order of the Phoenix]]'', the mental scars have remained with her. This has been picked up on by the fandom, who often point to the events of ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets Chamber of Secrets]]'' as one of the reasons for how she repeatedly TookALevelInBadass in the subsequent books.

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** This is hinted at with Diary/[[spoiler:Horcrux]]! Tom Diary/[[spoiler:Horcrux!]]Tom Riddle and Possessed!Ginny. There's certainly MindRape involved, and he forces her to tell him all her secrets and do things she doesn't want to do. As she mentions in ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheOrderOfThePhoenix Order of the Phoenix]]'', the mental scars have remained with her. This has been picked up on by the fandom, who often point to the events of ''[[Literature/HarryPotterAndTheChamberOfSecrets Chamber of Secrets]]'' as one of the reasons for how she repeatedly TookALevelInBadass in the subsequent books.



* In the ''Literature/{{Outlander}}'' series, there's Captain John Randall towards [[HoYay Jamie]]. At first, it consists mostly of Randall having a dreamy look on his face every time Jamie shows defiance and resistance towards him, culminating in Dougal describing Randall's look as a guy who's hot on a girl. And ''then'', Randall shows that these impulses actually extend to being out-and-out sexual, revealing his desire for Jamie to "become his"... which eventually results in [[spoiler: poor Jamie getting imprisoned, raped, and beaten (as part of [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence certain scenario]] that Randall is into) repeatedly]]. It gets worse when Randall is actually revealed to have probably been genuinely in love with him, in his own messed up way.

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* In the ''Literature/{{Outlander}}'' series, there's Captain John Randall towards [[HoYay Jamie]]. At first, it consists mostly of Randall having a dreamy look on his face every time Jamie shows defiance and resistance towards him, culminating in Dougal describing Randall's look as a guy who's hot on a girl. And ''then'', Randall shows that these impulses actually extend to being out-and-out sexual, revealing his desire for Jamie to "become his"... which eventually results in [[spoiler: [[spoiler poor Jamie getting imprisoned, raped, and beaten (as part of [[InterplayOfSexAndViolence certain scenario]] that Randall is into) repeatedly]]. It gets worse when Randall is actually revealed to have probably been genuinely in love with him, in his own messed up way.



** [[TheHero Emiya Shirou]]'s interactions with [[CreepyChild Ilya]] are half the time [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments downright adorable]] [[spoiler: and depending on the path, the two can get close for Illya to pull a HeelFaceTurn and in one of the endings makes a HeroicSacrifice to keep Shirou from doing so]]. When they aren't, however, they are very disturbing. Illya's friendly behavior is often mixed with death threats, and her pursuing Shirou makes her come off as a stalker. It's at its worst when she kidnaps Shirou in the '''Fate''' route and tells him to "be mine" while sitting on his lap, with the hints that she is going to try to rape him. Ilya is [[spoiler:actually older than Shirou but she has the body of]] a child, so the scene comes off as a child about to rape a teenager. She's also [[spoiler: essentially the child of Shirou's adoptive father, making them kind-of siblings]]. WordOfGod is that there was originally a sex scene planned at that point but it was dropped, not that what Ilya actually does to Shirou if he says “yes” is much better where it turns out she was tricking him into handing over his soul.

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** [[TheHero Emiya Shirou]]'s interactions with [[CreepyChild Ilya]] are half the time [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments downright adorable]] [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and depending on the path, the two can get close for Illya to pull a HeelFaceTurn and in one of the endings makes a HeroicSacrifice to keep Shirou from doing so]]. When they aren't, however, they are very disturbing. Illya's friendly behavior is often mixed with death threats, and her pursuing Shirou makes her come off as a stalker. It's at its worst when she kidnaps Shirou in the '''Fate''' route and tells him to "be mine" while sitting on his lap, with the hints that she is going to try to rape him. Ilya is [[spoiler:actually older than Shirou but she has the body of]] a child, so the scene comes off as a child about to rape a teenager. She's also [[spoiler: essentially [[spoiler:essentially the child of Shirou's adoptive father, making them kind-of siblings]]. WordOfGod is that there was originally a sex scene planned at that point but it was dropped, not that what Ilya actually does to Shirou if he says “yes” is much better where it turns out she was tricking him into handing over his soul.



** [[EvilOldFolks Zouken]] [[TheWormThatWalks Matou]]'s evil plan revolves around torturing Sakura and when scheming he keeps bringing up her body in ways that make it sound like he's stalking her. [[spoiler: He is revealed to have actually thrown Sakura to hordes of magic worms to be [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil violated]], for years, and planned to eventually take over Sakura's body to become immortal.]]

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** [[EvilOldFolks Zouken]] [[TheWormThatWalks Matou]]'s evil plan revolves around torturing Sakura and when scheming he keeps bringing up her body in ways that make it sound like he's stalking her. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He is revealed to have actually thrown Sakura to hordes of magic worms to be [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil violated]], for years, and planned to eventually take over Sakura's body to become immortal.]]



* [[spoiler: Resident ExtravertedNerd and FatComicRelief, Hifumi Yamada]] in ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc'' [[spoiler: falls in love with... [[ArtificialIntelligence Alter-Ego]], an advanced A.I. that was created by the recently deceased [[WholesomeCrossdresser Chihiro Fujisaki]] in order to [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture help the remaining students escape]] [[DeadlyGame the Killing Game]]. Hifumi constantly claimed to only be interested in 2D Women, [[PerverseSexualLust which goes far beyond what you might expect]] and falls head over heels with the A.I., even Kyoko mentions having found him hugging the laptop, even ignoring the fact that Alter-ego's main avatar [[ReplacementGoldfish looks exactly like Chihiro]] and that [[UnsettlingGenderReveal the real Chihro was male]]. He also gets biased with Kiyotaka Ishimaru when Alter-Ego adopts an avatar of Mondo Owada, Taka's first and OnlyFriend ([[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] if Makoto completed his Free Time Events)]] [[spoiler: who was executed in the previous trial due to him being Chihiro's killer. Taka decides to use Alter-Ego as way of coping with Mondo's death, which triggers Hifumi's jealousy. Celestia Ludenberg, one of the people Hifumi was closest to, decides to [[ManipulativeBitch take advantage of the situation and use Alter-Ego as a way of manipulating Hifumi into murdering Ishimaru]] only to [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness finally kill him herself once his part was done]]. His relationship with Alter-Ego already sounds wrong to begin with, but what really crosses the line is the fact that he murdered an innocent man for a crime he did not commit without asking him for details (Celeste told Hifumi that Taka took Alter-Ego away and also made a FalseRapeAccusation against him, and Hifumi fell for all of that despite Celeste having no proof of either event whatsoever) and was willing to let everyone else get executed all for the sake of "his feelings".]]

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* [[spoiler: Resident [[spoiler:Resident ExtravertedNerd and FatComicRelief, Hifumi Yamada]] in ''VisualNovel/DanganronpaTriggerHappyHavoc'' [[spoiler: falls [[spoiler:falls in love with... [[ArtificialIntelligence Alter-Ego]], an advanced A.I. that was created by the recently deceased [[WholesomeCrossdresser Chihiro Fujisaki]] in order to [[FlingALightIntoTheFuture help the remaining students escape]] [[DeadlyGame the Killing Game]]. Hifumi constantly claimed to only be interested in 2D Women, [[PerverseSexualLust which goes far beyond what you might expect]] and falls head over heels with the A.I., even Kyoko mentions having found him hugging the laptop, even ignoring the fact that Alter-ego's main avatar [[ReplacementGoldfish looks exactly like Chihiro]] and that [[UnsettlingGenderReveal the real Chihro was male]]. He also gets biased with Kiyotaka Ishimaru when Alter-Ego adopts an avatar of Mondo Owada, Taka's first and OnlyFriend ([[SubvertedTrope Subverted]] if Makoto completed his Free Time Events)]] [[spoiler: who [[spoiler:who was executed in the previous trial due to him being Chihiro's killer. Taka decides to use Alter-Ego as way of coping with Mondo's death, which triggers Hifumi's jealousy. Celestia Ludenberg, one of the people Hifumi was closest to, decides to [[ManipulativeBitch take advantage of the situation and use Alter-Ego as a way of manipulating Hifumi into murdering Ishimaru]] only to [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness finally kill him herself once his part was done]]. His relationship with Alter-Ego already sounds wrong to begin with, but what really crosses the line is the fact that he murdered an innocent man for a crime he did not commit without asking him for details (Celeste told Hifumi that Taka took Alter-Ego away and also made a FalseRapeAccusation against him, and Hifumi fell for all of that despite Celeste having no proof of either event whatsoever) and was willing to let everyone else get executed all for the sake of "his feelings".]]
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** Following on the examples above, Batman is occassionally shipped with Batgirl. Fans generally hate it, since Barbara Gordon generally has a major relationship with his adoptive son, is one of his students, is much younger than him, and is the daughter of one of Batman's closest friends. When ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke'' had a [=Batman/Batgirl=] sex scene, the backlash overshadowed the entire film.

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** Following on the examples above, Batman is occassionally shipped with Batgirl. Fans generally hate it, since Barbara Gordon generally has a major relationship with his adoptive son, is one of his students, is much younger than him, and is the daughter of one of Batman's closest friends. When ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke'' had a [=Batman/Batgirl=] sex scene, the backlash [[OvershadowedByControversy overshadowed the entire film.film]].
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* ''Film/{{Scream}}'': The hinted romance between [[spoiler:Richie and Amber in the [[Film/Scream2022 fifth film]] (which ''Film/ScreamVI'' confirms to be the case) leaves a lot of fans uncomfortable due to their age difference, with Richie being in his late 20s and Amber being 17. Most fans simply choose to ignore it]].
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See also {{Squick}}, FanDisservice, NotWhatItLooksLike, NightmareFuel, FetishesAreWeird, BrainBleach, SickAndWrong, NoJustNoReaction, and ThisIsWrongOnSoManyLevels. Also tends to crop up when IHaveYouNowMyPretty and its [[YouGotSpunk sister]] [[ScarpiaUltimatum tropes]] get played horrifyingly straight.

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See also {{Squick}}, FanDisservice, NotWhatItLooksLike, NightmareFuel, FetishesAreWeird, BrainBleach, SickAndWrong, NoJustNoReaction, and ThisIsWrongOnSoManyLevels. Also tends to crop up when IHaveYouNowMyPretty and its [[YouGotSpunk sister]] [[ScarpiaUltimatum tropes]] sister trope]] get played horrifyingly straight.

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