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24th Jun '16 12:00:50 PM Octorok103
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*** Finally averted to a degree between the DS games and the 3DS games via cloud service. However, the jump to and from generations must happen with Black/White and X/Y.

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*** Finally averted to a degree between the DS games and the 3DS games via cloud service. However, it's still a one-way transfer, and it only works between the jump to Generation V ([[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite BW]][=/=][[VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 B2W2]]) and from generations must happen with Black/White and X/Y.Generation VI ([[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY XY]][=/=][[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire ORAS]]) games.



*** The WiiU retains backwards compatibility with UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} games and controllers, but is losing the ability to play [=GameCube=] discs.

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*** The WiiU retains backwards compatibility with UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} games and controllers, but is losing lacks the ability to play [=GameCube=] discs.



*** and after Java was quickly discovered to be a memory hog and full of exploits, many are also jumping ship to Flash or HTML5.

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*** and after Java was quickly discovered to be a memory hog and full of exploits, many are also jumping ship to Flash or HTML5.[=HTML5=].



*** HTML5 standards are set to replace Flash for multimedia based applications... which is most of the reason why Flash is used. It's gaining ground, especially with big-wigs dropping Flash support.

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*** HTML5 [=HTML5=] standards are set to replace Flash for multimedia based applications... which is most of the reason why Flash is used. It's gaining ground, especially with big-wigs dropping Flash support.



** If a pre-Win2000 (especially DOS-based) game had Redbook audio, such as ''VideoGame/{{Descent}} II'', it often required an analog audio cable directly connected to the soundcard from the disc drive, as opposed to the digital playback of later Windows versions. Fortunately, the ''[=D2X=] Rebirth'' sourceport/frontend for ''Descent II'' allows the CD music to be played digitally, and ''VideoGame/{{Turok}} 2'' has a patch for the same purpose.

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** If a pre-Win2000 pre-[=Win2000=] (especially DOS-based) game had Redbook audio, such as ''VideoGame/{{Descent}} II'', it often required an analog audio cable directly connected to the soundcard from the disc drive, as opposed to the digital playback of later Windows versions. Fortunately, the ''[=D2X=] Rebirth'' sourceport/frontend for ''Descent II'' allows the CD music to be played digitally, and ''VideoGame/{{Turok}} 2'' has a patch for the same purpose.
28th May '16 6:48:30 PM nombretomado
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* On the Creator/{{Sony}} side of things, the PlayStation 2 avoids this, as it has actual hardware capable of running [=PS1=] games inside.

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* On the Creator/{{Sony}} side of things, the PlayStation 2 UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 avoids this, as it has actual hardware capable of running [=PS1=] games inside.
22nd May '16 6:07:09 PM nombretomado
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* While the PS3 can run PS2 games, it does it by software emulation, as the Cell processor is completely different from the chip set used by the PS2. There was some uproar when back in 2007, rumors abounded that certain future models of the PS3 would lose this software emulation function, which they did.

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* While the PS3 [=PS3=] can run PS2 [=PS2=] games, it does it by software emulation, as the Cell processor is completely different from the chip set used by the PS2. [=PS2=]. There was some uproar when back in 2007, rumors abounded that certain future models of the PS3 [=PS3=] would lose this software emulation function, which they did.



** Frustratingly, the European PS3's were made with a different hardware set, and don't have any real emulation function at all.
** And now, Sony will allow you to play PS2 games on any PS3, [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo but you must buy the games from the UsefulNotes/PlayStationNetwork Store even if you already own the DVD]], and even then it's only titles they approve of, which is not many. Thankfully, you can play physical copies of [=PS1=] titles on any [=PS3=].
* And now, the latest announcement is, the UsefulNotes/PlayStation4 will not be able to run games for previous Playstation consoles at all offline, [[http://kotaku.com/5985785/sonys-cloud-gaming-could-bring-new-life-to-old-games however you can stream the system's backwards compatibility with PS1, PS2 & PS3 games to get around this]]. However, that still leaves you at the mercy of your Internet connection, and [[RegionCoding whether your region's GaiKai service has the games you want to play]].

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** Frustratingly, the European PS3's [=PS3=]'s were made with a different hardware set, and don't have any real emulation function at all.
** And now, Sony will allow you to play PS2 [=PS2=] games on any PS3, [=PS3=], [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo but you must buy the games from the UsefulNotes/PlayStationNetwork Store even if you already own the DVD]], and even then it's only titles they approve of, which is not many. Thankfully, you can play physical copies of [=PS1=] titles on any [=PS3=].
* And now, the latest announcement is, the UsefulNotes/PlayStation4 will not be able to run games for previous Playstation consoles at all offline, [[http://kotaku.com/5985785/sonys-cloud-gaming-could-bring-new-life-to-old-games however you can stream the system's backwards compatibility with PS1, PS2 [=PS1=], [=PS2=] & PS3 [=PS3=] games to get around this]]. However, that still leaves you at the mercy of your Internet connection, and [[RegionCoding whether your region's GaiKai service has the games you want to play]].



* Meanwhile, the {{Xbox 360}} can run ''most'' of [[{{Xbox}} its predecessor]]'s games,[[note]]reason being because unlike Sony and Nintendo, Microsoft couldn't put the predecessor console's hardware inside the 360 due to licensing issues[[/note]] but [[http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/01/09/microsoft-winding-down-xbox-360-backwards-compatibility-updates/ Microsoft has long since ceased backwards compatibility updates]], and has discontinued Xbox Live support for those games.

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* Meanwhile, the {{Xbox 360}} can run ''most'' of [[{{Xbox}} [[UsefulNotes/XBox its predecessor]]'s games,[[note]]reason being because unlike Sony and Nintendo, Microsoft couldn't put the predecessor console's hardware inside the 360 due to licensing issues[[/note]] but [[http://gamer.blorge.com/2008/01/09/microsoft-winding-down-xbox-360-backwards-compatibility-updates/ Microsoft has long since ceased backwards compatibility updates]], and has discontinued Xbox Live support for those games.
19th May '16 2:01:56 PM Yugnat
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*** The WiiU will retain backwards compatibility with UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} games and controllers, but is losing the ability to play [=GameCube=] discs.

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*** The WiiU will retain retains backwards compatibility with UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} games and controllers, but is losing the ability to play [=GameCube=] discs.
19th May '16 2:01:19 PM Yugnat
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*** The WiiU will retain backwards compatibility with UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} games and controllers, but is losing the ability to play [=GameCube=] discs. All because [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo Nintendo wants to sell you the [=GameCube=] games you already own all over]][[note]]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Console#Wii_U[[/note]]

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*** The WiiU will retain backwards compatibility with UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} games and controllers, but is losing the ability to play [=GameCube=] discs. All because [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo Nintendo wants to sell you the [=GameCube=] games you already own all over]][[note]]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Console#Wii_U[[/note]]
discs.
15th May '16 11:14:51 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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** And now, Sony will allow you to play PS2 games on any PS3, [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo but you must buy the games from the PlayStation Network Store even if you already own the DVD]], and even then it's only titles they approve of, which is not many. Thankfully, you can play physical copies of [=PS1=] titles on any [=PS3=].
* And now, the latest announcement is, the PlayStation4 will not be able to run games for previous PlayStation consoles at all offline, [[http://kotaku.com/5985785/sonys-cloud-gaming-could-bring-new-life-to-old-games however you can stream the system's backwards compatibility with PS1, PS2 & PS3 games to get around this]]. However, that still leaves you at the mercy of your Internet connection, and [[RegionCoding whether your region's GaiKai service has the games you want to play]].

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** And now, Sony will allow you to play PS2 games on any PS3, [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo but you must buy the games from the PlayStation Network UsefulNotes/PlayStationNetwork Store even if you already own the DVD]], and even then it's only titles they approve of, which is not many. Thankfully, you can play physical copies of [=PS1=] titles on any [=PS3=].
* And now, the latest announcement is, the PlayStation4 UsefulNotes/PlayStation4 will not be able to run games for previous PlayStation Playstation consoles at all offline, [[http://kotaku.com/5985785/sonys-cloud-gaming-could-bring-new-life-to-old-games however you can stream the system's backwards compatibility with PS1, PS2 & PS3 games to get around this]]. However, that still leaves you at the mercy of your Internet connection, and [[RegionCoding whether your region's GaiKai service has the games you want to play]].
27th Mar '16 8:55:16 AM bwburke94
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* Buy a new computer? Make sure all of your peripherals have drivers that are compatible with the computer's OS, or be willing to upgrade them as well. Some printers, scanners, etc. from as recently as two years ago do not have drivers that are usable by 64-bit processors (which eliminates the 64-bit versions of Windows Vista and Windows 7).

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* Buy a new computer? Make sure all of your peripherals have drivers that are compatible with the computer's OS, or be willing to upgrade them as well. Some printers, scanners, etc. from as recently as two years ago 2010 do not have drivers that are usable by 64-bit processors (which eliminates the 64-bit versions of Windows Vista and Windows 7).processors.



** In addition to rejecting UsefulNotes/BluRay, Apple appears to be phasing out removable disc drives altogether, for example the current generation iMac and Mac Mini lack internal optical drives. [=MacBook Pro=] with Retina Display lacks them as will the 2013 [=MacPro=]. This even harkens back to the original iMac in 1998 with the rejection of the floppy drive, which was still an essential media in the business and education world at the time. [[note]]For security reasons many IT departments were deathly afraid of the USB port and many workplaces and computer labs at universities and colleges had the ports on the computers disabled. [[/note]]

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** In addition to rejecting UsefulNotes/BluRay, Apple appears to be phasing out removable disc drives altogether, for example the current generation iMac and Mac Mini lack internal optical drives. [=MacBook Pro=] with Retina Display lacks them as will the 2013 [=MacPro=].few if any of their modern devices use them.. This even harkens back to the original iMac in 1998 with the rejection of the floppy drive, which was still an essential media in the business and education world at the time. [[note]]For security reasons many IT departments were deathly afraid of the USB port and many workplaces and computer labs at universities and colleges had the ports on the computers disabled. [[/note]]



* iTunes has issues with Windows XP X64; both the 32 and 64 bit versions require editing the MSI files via Orca to install and may not fully function, and the "64 64" version doesn't work with certain older video cards.

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* iTunes has issues with Windows XP X64; x64; both the 32 and 64 bit versions require editing the MSI files via Orca to install and may not fully function, and the "64 64" version doesn't work with certain older video cards.



** It's not just software and hardware that falls victim to NoBackwardsCompatibilityInTheFuture; it applies to physical materials too. Case in point, FOGBANK, which was an unbelievably-classified plastic used in Trident missile warheads. FOGBANK production ended in 1989. When the Navy wanted to refurbish its existing warheads, they had to build a brand-new factory to produce FOGBANK again -- and discovered that the documented procedures didn't work. It turns out FOGBANK relied on an ''impurity'' included in the original batch, and this delayed the refurbishment by nearly ten years.

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** It's not just software and hardware that falls victim to NoBackwardsCompatibilityInTheFuture; this trope; it applies to physical materials too. Case in point, FOGBANK, which was an unbelievably-classified plastic used in Trident missile warheads. FOGBANK production ended in 1989. When the Navy wanted to refurbish its existing warheads, they had to build a brand-new factory to produce FOGBANK again -- and discovered that the documented procedures didn't work. It turns out FOGBANK relied on an ''impurity'' included in the original batch, and this delayed the refurbishment by nearly ten years.
13th Mar '16 5:00:53 PM roothorick
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* Console and hardware emulators are fully software reimplementations of the precise behavior of old hardware, with the express purpose of allowing games and software only compatible with those old machines to be run and used on modern and relatively arbitrary hardware.
4th Mar '16 11:58:14 PM SammyDragon92
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** Windows in general has great backwards compatibility provided the program only relied on Windows provided libraries. It was found programs that came with Windows 2.0 still work in Windows 7.

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** Windows in general has great backwards compatibility provided the program only relied on Windows provided libraries. It was found programs that came with Windows 2.0 still work in the 32-Bit editions of Windows 7.
27th Feb '16 8:41:44 AM superslinger2007
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* At the time of this writing (November 2014), the Python programming language currently has two 'newest' versions: 2.7 and 3.3. The reason for having updates for both Python 2 and Python 3 are because many people have enormous numbers of module libraries for Python 2...that won't work on the non-backwards compatible Python 3.

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* At the time of this writing (November 2014), (February 2016), the Python programming language currently has two 'newest' versions: 2.7 and 3.3.5. The reason for having updates for both Python 2 and Python 3 are because many people have enormous numbers of module libraries for Python 2...that won't work on the non-backwards compatible Python 3.
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