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31st Jul '16 12:39:55 PM nombretomado
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* Completely averted by John Henry Irons, AKA {{Steel}}. When {{Superman}} saved his life he asked how he could repay him and got the answer "live a life worth saving". So he builds PoweredArmor and uses it to become a Superhero. He remains a respected member of the superhero community to this day. Although when John Henry's niece gained powers through the Everyman Project and became leader of ComicBook/InfinityInc, he complained she hadn't "earned" them. This was less about "you shouldn't be a hero" and more about the fact that Infinity Inc. was sponsored by Lex '[[CivilianVillain reformed this time, honest]]' Luthor. There ''was'' a little bit of "you're not mature or responsible enough to be a hero yet", before she went to Luthor, in Steel's actions, but in his defense Natasha herself demonstrated that he wasn't ''entirely'' wrong about this. For example, she seemed to only be interested in the "beating up the bad guys" part of being a superhero and considered helping civilians rebuilt a wrecked city to be a waste of a hero's time. On the other hand, when he was at one point thought dead, Natasha picked up his hammer and triggered a fantastic recorded message saying "I don't want you to be a superhero like me, it's too dangerous, but since you'll probably ignore me, I rigged all my gear to answer to you. You'll be great." But then, [[LegacyCharacter taking up the]] [[TakingUpTheMantle mantle]] is a slightly different situation in [[DCComics the DCU]].

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* Completely averted by John Henry Irons, AKA {{Steel}}. When {{Superman}} saved his life he asked how he could repay him and got the answer "live a life worth saving". So he builds PoweredArmor and uses it to become a Superhero. He remains a respected member of the superhero community to this day. Although when John Henry's niece gained powers through the Everyman Project and became leader of ComicBook/InfinityInc, he complained she hadn't "earned" them. This was less about "you shouldn't be a hero" and more about the fact that Infinity Inc. was sponsored by Lex '[[CivilianVillain reformed this time, honest]]' Luthor. There ''was'' a little bit of "you're not mature or responsible enough to be a hero yet", before she went to Luthor, in Steel's actions, but in his defense Natasha herself demonstrated that he wasn't ''entirely'' wrong about this. For example, she seemed to only be interested in the "beating up the bad guys" part of being a superhero and considered helping civilians rebuilt a wrecked city to be a waste of a hero's time. On the other hand, when he was at one point thought dead, Natasha picked up his hammer and triggered a fantastic recorded message saying "I don't want you to be a superhero like me, it's too dangerous, but since you'll probably ignore me, I rigged all my gear to answer to you. You'll be great." But then, [[LegacyCharacter taking up the]] [[TakingUpTheMantle mantle]] is a slightly different situation in [[DCComics the DCU]].Franchise/TheDCU.
10th Jun '16 7:10:23 AM dmcreif
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*** The Palm Beach County Sheriff's Department in 2016 became the subject of controversy when one night, one of their cruisers chased down a car that had been stolen by three teenagers with lengthy criminal records. Said stolen car went off the road and into a swamp, where it sank, killing the three inside. Many criticized the police for not trying to mount a rescue attempt, when in fact they did, but turned back because of the conditions in the swamp, since a common sense rule of rescuing a drowning victim is that you don't attempt a rescue when doing so could make yourself a victim.
30th Apr '16 12:58:24 PM ultimomant
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* ''Fanfic/AManOfIron'': Ned Stark disapproves of Iron Man's vigilante actions. Not only is it illegal, but he's worried that people, especially untrained peasants, will be inspired to imitate him, which will lead them getting killed.

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* ''Fanfic/AManOfIron'': Ned Stark disapproves of Iron Man's vigilante actions. Not only is it illegal, but he's worried that people, especially untrained peasants, will be inspired to imitate him, which will lead them getting killed. Ned says the proper procedure to dealing with crimes is to report them to the king or lord so that they and their knights can deal with it.
30th Apr '16 12:55:46 PM ultimomant
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* ''Fanfic/AManOfIron'': Ned Stark disapproves of Iron Man's vigilante actions. Not only is it illegal, but he's worried that people, especially untrained peasants, will be inspired to imitate him, which will lead them getting killed.
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* ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. Were those vigilantes wrong for trying to be heroes? No. Although Batman just made a snarky comment about hockey pads, it was clear what they were doing wrong was using his persona for outright violence ([[TechnicalPacifist and guns]]), which was not at all what he stood for. There's an element of DontDoThisCoolThing in his attitude towards them. He ''wants'' to inspire the citizens of Gotham to believe the city can be made ''better'', but he doesn't want them following in his vigilante footsteps. Hence his hope that Harvey Dent, Gotham's "White Knight", can essentially ''replace'' him as Gotham's public hero.

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* ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. Were those vigilantes wrong for trying to be heroes? No. Although Batman just made a snarky comment about hockey pads, it was clear what they were doing wrong was using his persona for outright violence ([[TechnicalPacifist and guns]]), which was not at all what he stood for. There's an element of DontDoThisCoolThing DoNotDoThisCoolThing in his attitude towards them. He ''wants'' to inspire the citizens of Gotham to believe the city can be made ''better'', but he doesn't want them following in his vigilante footsteps. Hence his hope that Harvey Dent, Gotham's "White Knight", can essentially ''replace'' him as Gotham's public hero.



* In ''WesternAnimation/KimPossible'', Will Du disapproves of Team Possible, calling them amateurs and saying heroism should be left to the professionals.



*** One of the most important rules is if you see someone unconscious in a [[Main/EnclosedSpace confined space]] '''DO NOT ENTER THE SPACE''', even to pull them out. Invisible gases that can build up in such spaces like Carbon Monoxide and Hydrogen Sulphide can render a person unconscious in seconds. There have been several instances where 10 or more people have wound up dead inside a confined space because the next guy kept trying to pull people out.

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*** One of the most important rules is if you see someone unconscious in a [[Main/EnclosedSpace [[EnclosedSpace confined space]] '''DO NOT ENTER THE SPACE''', even to pull them out. Invisible gases that can build up in such spaces like Carbon Monoxide and Hydrogen Sulphide can render a person unconscious in seconds. There have been several instances where 10 or more people have wound up dead inside a confined space because the next guy kept trying to pull people out.
7th Mar '16 10:44:02 PM DastardlyDemolition
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** Turns out that actually did end up saving the day.

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** Turns out that actually did end up saving the day. Fry believes he's an invincible combat robot and slowly twirls his arms around while whirring and makes a slow walk towards this opponent. Roberto, being the neurotic nutcase he is, becomes intimidated and stabs Fry in the chest only to hit him in the oil can he stashed in his jacket. Fry "bleeds" but doesn't stop his approach leading to Roberto believe he really is a combat robot and jumps out the window to escape, only to land on the pavement and be arrested by the cops.
24th Feb '16 2:10:26 AM SSJMagus
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* Completely averted by John Henry Irons, AKA {{Steel}}. When {{Superman}} saved his life he asked how he could repay him and got the answer "live a life worth saving". So he builds PoweredArmor and uses it to become a Superhero. He remains a respected member of the superhero community to this day. Although when John Henry's niece gained powers through the Everyman Project and became leader of ComicBook/InfinityInc, he complained she hadn't "earned" them. This was less about "you shouldn't be a hero" and more about the fact that Infinity Inc. was sponsored by Lex '[[CivilianVillain reformed this time, honest]]' Luthor. There ''was'' a little bit of "you're not mature or responsible enough to be a hero yet", before she went to Luthor, in Steel's actions, but in his defense Natasha herself demonstrated that he wasn't ''entirely'' wrong about this. On the other hand, when he was at one point thought dead, Natasha picked up his hammer and triggered a fantastic recorded message saying "I don't want you to be a superhero like me, it's too dangerous, but since you'll probably ignore me, I rigged all my gear to answer to you. You'll be great." But then, [[LegacyCharacter taking up the]] [[TakingUpTheMantle mantle]] is a slightly different situation in [[DCComics the DCU]].

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* Completely averted by John Henry Irons, AKA {{Steel}}. When {{Superman}} saved his life he asked how he could repay him and got the answer "live a life worth saving". So he builds PoweredArmor and uses it to become a Superhero. He remains a respected member of the superhero community to this day. Although when John Henry's niece gained powers through the Everyman Project and became leader of ComicBook/InfinityInc, he complained she hadn't "earned" them. This was less about "you shouldn't be a hero" and more about the fact that Infinity Inc. was sponsored by Lex '[[CivilianVillain reformed this time, honest]]' Luthor. There ''was'' a little bit of "you're not mature or responsible enough to be a hero yet", before she went to Luthor, in Steel's actions, but in his defense Natasha herself demonstrated that he wasn't ''entirely'' wrong about this. For example, she seemed to only be interested in the "beating up the bad guys" part of being a superhero and considered helping civilians rebuilt a wrecked city to be a waste of a hero's time. On the other hand, when he was at one point thought dead, Natasha picked up his hammer and triggered a fantastic recorded message saying "I don't want you to be a superhero like me, it's too dangerous, but since you'll probably ignore me, I rigged all my gear to answer to you. You'll be great." But then, [[LegacyCharacter taking up the]] [[TakingUpTheMantle mantle]] is a slightly different situation in [[DCComics the DCU]].
25th Dec '15 6:31:19 PM nombretomado
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* SilverAge ComicBook/LoisLane used to get powers all the time, and every time there was an Aesop that she couldn't use them properly, with a huge unspoken "Because she's a ''[[StayInTheKitchen girl]]''". In fact, check out SuperDickery or the picture in ContagiousPowers for an idea of what Lois (and Lana) would typically do when they got powers.

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* SilverAge [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] ComicBook/LoisLane used to get powers all the time, and every time there was an Aesop that she couldn't use them properly, with a huge unspoken "Because she's a ''[[StayInTheKitchen girl]]''". In fact, check out SuperDickery or the picture in ContagiousPowers for an idea of what Lois (and Lana) would typically do when they got powers.
2nd Dec '15 7:48:17 PM FF32
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* The City of Nexus in CaptainSNES actually has laws against hero work not done via the police, mostly because the citizens of Nexus come from such a staggering variety of games that they all have very, ''very'' different ideas about what they are and aren't allowed to do during such tasks. It is also pointed out that heroes tend to draw villains and show up at world-endangering times, to the extent that a world-weary VideoGame/MegaMan comments that a genuine hero is the absolute '''worst''' thing to ever encounter.

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* The City of Nexus in CaptainSNES Webcomic/CaptainSNES actually has laws against hero work not done via the police, mostly because the citizens of Nexus come from such a staggering variety of games that they all have very, ''very'' different ideas about what they are and aren't allowed to do during such tasks. It is also pointed out that heroes tend to draw villains and show up at world-endangering times, to the extent that a world-weary VideoGame/MegaMan comments that a genuine hero is the absolute '''worst''' thing to ever encounter.
22nd Nov '15 11:19:49 PM DragonQuestZ
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Compare TheTeamWannabe, PretenderDiss.

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Compare TheTeamWannabe, TheChosenWannabe, PretenderDiss.
28th Sep '15 11:47:46 AM Paranoia
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* ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. Were those vigilantes wrong for trying to be heroes? No. Although Batman just made a snarky comment about hockey pads, it was clear what they were doing wrong was using his persona for outright violence ([[TechnicalPacifist and guns]]), which was not at all what he stood for.

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* ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. Were those vigilantes wrong for trying to be heroes? No. Although Batman just made a snarky comment about hockey pads, it was clear what they were doing wrong was using his persona for outright violence ([[TechnicalPacifist and guns]]), which was not at all what he stood for. There's an element of DontDoThisCoolThing in his attitude towards them. He ''wants'' to inspire the citizens of Gotham to believe the city can be made ''better'', but he doesn't want them following in his vigilante footsteps. Hence his hope that Harvey Dent, Gotham's "White Knight", can essentially ''replace'' him as Gotham's public hero.
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