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17th Jun '17 5:12:53 PM Morgenthaler
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* ''Series/{{Taboo}}'': Deconstructed and averted:
** After bribery fails, the EIC try to deal with James by killing him. When this fails repeatedly, Strange is incredulous that his employees can't seem to come up with another solution to the Delaney business other than to just keep on trying.
** He then makes out a will leaving Nootka Sound to the Americans if he dies, making murder the ''worst'' solution for both EIC and the Crown.
** The Americans (through Dumbarton and Carlsbad) offer to kill Thorne so that James and Zilpha can be together. James seems fine with this plan. However, when [[spoiler: Zilpha murders her husband to free herself from his abuse]], James is ''not'' fine, and believes that the act was a sin.
** [[spoiler: James then refuses Atticus' suggestion to kill Helga, when it becomes obvious Helga will betray them due to the death of Winter]].
17th Jun '17 11:25:23 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the TV film, ''Film/{{Conspiracy}}'', the Wannsee Conference where the FinalSolution phase of the Holocaust was devised has the Nazis discussing with coldblooded earnestness why killing the Third Reich's "undesirables" is the best means of dealing with them. Only one of the men has any genuine moral problems with the mass murder -- the rest are simply discussing ''how best to organize it''.
** At one point, sterilization is suggested as a practical alternative, [[PragmaticVillainy given the chronic shortage of manpower]]. The suggestion is bluntly overruled by Heinrich, who makes it clear that the decision has already been made by UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler.

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* In the TV film, ''Film/{{Conspiracy}}'', the Wannsee Conference where the FinalSolution phase of the Holocaust was devised has the Nazis discussing with coldblooded earnestness why killing the Third Reich's "undesirables" is the best means of dealing with them. Only one of the men has any genuine moral problems with the mass murder -- the rest are simply discussing ''how best to organize it''.
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At one point, sterilization is suggested as a practical alternative, [[PragmaticVillainy given the chronic shortage of manpower]]. The suggestion is bluntly overruled by Heinrich, who makes it clear that the decision has already been made by UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler. Only one of the men has any genuine moral problems with the mass murder -- the rest are simply discussing ''how best to organize it''.
15th Jun '17 1:57:08 PM kazokuhouou
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* In ''Manga/{{Ooku}}: The Inner Chambers'', the Reverend Kasuga believes that the grave is the safest place to keep secrets. This includes [[DisposableSexWorker prostitutes used to tempt a monk to break his vows]] (after other murders to force his hand), [[spoiler: the mother of Chie, who would become the female Shogun Iemitsu, and the doctor who witnessed the original Iemitsu's death from Redface Pox]].

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* In ''Manga/{{Ooku}}: The Inner Chambers'', the Chambers'':
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Reverend Kasuga believes that the grave is the safest place to keep secrets. This includes [[DisposableSexWorker prostitutes used to tempt a monk to break his vows]] (after other murders to force his hand), [[spoiler: the mother of Chie, who would become the female Shogun Iemitsu, and the doctor who witnessed the original Iemitsu's death from Redface Pox]].Pox]].
** Deconstructed with Harusada. While she does resort to murdering rivals and [[spoiler: even her own ''grandkids'']], it's less because it's the ''best'' solution and more because it's the one with the most entertainment value, as she flat out stated that she murdered her sister because she was bored.
** Reconstructed with [[spoiler: Ienari's concubines]], though, who saw what Harusada had done and concluded that it was indeed the best solution to get rid of rivals [[spoiler: with the result that only half of Ienari's numerous children made it to adulthood.]]
31st May '17 8:17:35 PM PaulA
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* Played straight in Creator/SpiderRobinson's ''Variable Star'', [[PosthumousCollaboration based upon an outline by]] Creator/RobertAHeinlein. [[spoiler:The hero protagonist, explicitly stated to be trained in avoiding combat, decides on a plan to stop the villain by getting his own friend killed to distract a (likely innocent) bodyguard long enough to kill her as well. This despite controlling the villain's FTL ship (the only remaining valuable asset of a man obsessed with greed), the man who knows how to build new ones and is the pilot, the ship itself, both of the man's daughters, and ''the only possible escape route for the villain,'' '''and''' being able to escape with all of the above simply by climbing on board the ship and taking off.]]

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* Played straight in Creator/SpiderRobinson's ''Variable Star'', ''Literature/VariableStar'', [[PosthumousCollaboration based upon an outline by]] Creator/RobertAHeinlein. [[spoiler:The hero protagonist, explicitly stated to be trained in avoiding combat, decides on a plan to stop the villain by getting his own friend killed to distract a (likely innocent) bodyguard long enough to kill her as well. This despite controlling the villain's FTL ship (the only remaining valuable asset of a man obsessed with greed), the man who knows how to build new ones and is the pilot, the ship itself, both of the man's daughters, and ''the only possible escape route for the villain,'' '''and''' being able to escape with all of the above simply by climbing on board the ship and taking off.]]
28th May '17 2:16:34 PM LongTallShorty64
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* Martin Donnelly, from ''Film/TheRecklessMoment'', knows that the only way to get rid of his blackmailing partner from threatening Lucia is by killing him.
24th May '17 3:07:44 PM YgothanEru
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** Really, most of any ''CSI'' franchise would qualify. Even preventing someone from stepping on a cockroach (the doer was a FriendToBugs) merits an impulsive kill. Or catching a groom being a two-timer on his bachelor party (result: tie him down and dump him on a raft far away from the coast, with a good chance of him dying of thirst). An eleven-year-old kid being denied ''one'' cat from the local CrazyCatLady (who doesn't wants to part with it, even after the kid points out she has a dozen and it's not as if the cat will be taken far away) drives the kid to bash the woman's brains in [[CreepyChild and be completely unapologetic about it.]] The list just goes on, accidental and not.

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** Really, most of any ''CSI'' franchise would qualify. Even preventing someone from stepping on a cockroach (the doer was a FriendToBugs) merits an impulsive kill. Or catching a groom being a two-timer on his bachelor party (result: tie him down and dump him on a raft far away from the coast, with a good chance of him dying of thirst). An eleven-year-old kid being denied ''one'' cat from the local CrazyCatLady (who doesn't wants want to part with it, even after the kid points out she has a dozen and it's not as if the cat will be taken far away) drives the kid to bash the woman's brains in [[CreepyChild and be completely unapologetic about it.]] The list just goes on, accidental and not.
16th May '17 8:23:13 PM marcoasalazarm
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** Really, most of any ''CSI'' franchise would qualify. Even preventing someone from stepping on a cockroach (the doer was a FriendToBugs) merits an impulsive kill.

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** Really, most of any ''CSI'' franchise would qualify. Even preventing someone from stepping on a cockroach (the doer was a FriendToBugs) merits an impulsive kill. Or catching a groom being a two-timer on his bachelor party (result: tie him down and dump him on a raft far away from the coast, with a good chance of him dying of thirst). An eleven-year-old kid being denied ''one'' cat from the local CrazyCatLady (who doesn't wants to part with it, even after the kid points out she has a dozen and it's not as if the cat will be taken far away) drives the kid to bash the woman's brains in [[CreepyChild and be completely unapologetic about it.]] The list just goes on, accidental and not.
16th May '17 8:13:58 PM billybobfred
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* In ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'', Florence usually does ''not'' follow this trope, on account of being an organic A.I. and having something similar to the [[ThreeLawsCompliant Three Laws of Robotics]]. This doesn't technically apply to robots, but Florence happens to believe (with lots of very good evidence on her side) that AndroidsArePeopleToo. But [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2500/fc02446.htm when it comes up]] that [[spoiler:Mr. Kornada's plan to lobotomize every robot on Jean for the sole purpose of stealing their money was to be carried out ''entirely'' by his robot Clippy]], she is unable to ignore [[CuttingTheKnot the "distressingly easy and horrible solution"]] this scenario presents.

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* In ''Webcomic/{{Freefall}}'', Florence usually does ''not'' follow this trope, on account of being an organic A.I. and having something similar to the [[ThreeLawsCompliant Three Laws of Robotics]]. This doesn't technically apply to robots, but Florence happens to believe (with lots of very good evidence on her side) that AndroidsArePeopleToo. But [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2500/fc02446.htm when it comes up]] that [[spoiler:Mr. Kornada's plan to lobotomize every robot on Jean for the sole purpose of stealing their money was to be carried out ''entirely'' by his robot Clippy]], she is unable to ignore [[CuttingTheKnot the "distressingly easy and horrible solution"]] this scenario presents. [[spoiler:She manages to compromise by disabling and disassembling him, but leaving the parts intact so he can be brought back when the plan has been thoroughly stopped.]]
28th Apr '17 1:33:33 PM merotoker
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* In ''Anime/ValvraveTheLiberator'', this is usually L-Elf's plan in most situations. [[TheHero Haruto]] calls him out on it by saying that violence is always the answer with him. In the episode where this is really shown [[spoiler:when L-Elf shoots Marie in the head for trying to get the secret of the Valvraves from Haruto and distracting him from a battle he was late for]], it's also Justified, as we see his backstory being trained as a {{Child Soldier|s}} from a very young age. He mentions they were taught to be pragmatically cold and violent. "We were told to kill anyone suspicious. Kill any informants. Kill any deserters. Kill any witnesses. Kill. Kill."

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* In ''Anime/ValvraveTheLiberator'', this is usually L-Elf's plan in most situations. [[TheHero Haruto]] calls him out on it by saying that violence is always the answer with him. In the episode where this is really shown [[spoiler:when L-Elf shoots Marie in the head for trying to get the secret of the Valvraves from Haruto and distracting him from a battle he was late for]], it's also Justified, justified, as we see his backstory being trained as a {{Child Soldier|s}} from a very young age. He mentions they were taught to be pragmatically cold and violent. "We were told to kill anyone suspicious. Kill any informants. Kill any deserters. Kill any witnesses. Kill. Kill."



*** If anything, this is becoming even more pronounced. In ''Comicbook/AvengersVsXMen'', teenager ComicBook/HopeSummers is acting as a lure for a cosmic entity destroying everything in its path. The Avengers' solution: get her off Earth. Wolverine's solution: kill her (though he doesn't go through with it). The big story after that, ''ComicBook/AgeOfUltron'', has Wolverine trying to undo evil robot Comicbook/{{Ultron}}'s taking over the world by going back in time and murdering [[Comicbook/AntMan Hank Pym]], the Avenger who built it. When this fails to make things any better, he fixes this by going back again and murdering his own past self.
*** In ''ComicBook/TheChildrensCrusade'', this is his opinion of the best way to deal with Wanda (ComicBook/ScarletWitch) and her sixteen-year-old [[TangledFamilyTree reincarnated son]], Billy Kaplan ([[ComicBook/YoungAvengers Wiccan]]). While wanting to kill Wanda is [[ComicBook/AvengersDisassembled at least]] [[ComicBook/HouseOfM justifiable]] to an extent, Wolverine is [[BloodKnight outright gleeful]] about the idea of killing Billy as well -- and not only has Billy done ''nothing wrong'', no one's even sure if he ''has'' his mother's powers or strength. At that point, the biggest display of his power was accidentally putting a bunch of terrorists into temporary magical comas, which stopped a ''nuke'' from going off in the middle of New York. And while that display made the Avengers nervous, it wasn't proof of Billy being able to [[RealityWarper warp reality]] at all, let alone to [[PhysicalGod Wanda's level]]. Wolverine is determined to murder Billy regardless, ''just in case''. He outright ''tries'' to kill Billy twice, nearly running Billy through with his claws on both occasions, but is luckily stopped first by SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} and then by [[ConquerorFromTheFuture Iron]] [[FutureMeScaresMe Lad]]. On the Avengers side of things, no one outright agrees with Wolverine's plan of "murder Wanda and her innocent son", but no one says anything ''against'' it, either.

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*** If anything, this is becoming even more pronounced. In ''Comicbook/AvengersVsXMen'', teenager ComicBook/HopeSummers is acting as a lure for a cosmic entity destroying everything in its path. The Avengers' ComicBook/TheAvengers' solution: get her off Earth. Wolverine's solution: kill her (though he doesn't go through with it). The big story after that, ''ComicBook/AgeOfUltron'', has Wolverine trying to undo evil robot Comicbook/{{Ultron}}'s taking over the world by going back in time and murdering [[Comicbook/AntMan Hank Pym]], the Avenger who built it. When this fails to make things any better, he fixes this by going back again and murdering his own past self.
*** In ''ComicBook/TheChildrensCrusade'', this is his opinion of the best way to deal with Wanda (ComicBook/ScarletWitch) and her sixteen-year-old [[TangledFamilyTree reincarnated son]], Billy Kaplan ([[ComicBook/YoungAvengers Wiccan]]). While wanting to kill Wanda is [[ComicBook/AvengersDisassembled at least]] [[ComicBook/HouseOfM justifiable]] to an extent, Wolverine is [[BloodKnight outright gleeful]] about the idea of killing Billy as well -- and not only has Billy done ''nothing wrong'', no one's even sure if he ''has'' his mother's powers or strength. At that point, the biggest display of his power was accidentally putting a bunch of terrorists into temporary magical comas, which stopped a ''nuke'' from going off in the middle of New York. And while that display made the Avengers nervous, it wasn't proof of Billy being able to [[RealityWarper warp reality]] at all, let alone to [[PhysicalGod Wanda's level]]. Wolverine is determined to murder Billy regardless, ''just in case''. He outright ''tries'' to kill Billy twice, nearly running Billy through with his claws on both occasions, but is luckily stopped first by SelfDemonstrating/{{Magneto}} ComicBook/{{Magneto}} and then by [[ConquerorFromTheFuture Iron]] [[FutureMeScaresMe Lad]]. On the Avengers side of things, no one outright agrees with Wolverine's plan of "murder Wanda and her innocent son", but no one says anything ''against'' it, either.



* ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' generally plays murder for comedy, with people snarking about how much their enemies suck, flirting with [[RandomlyDrops the loot]] and so on. ''VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', meanwhile, is about how Handsome Jack, the BigBad of ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}'', came to this conclusion, and that part is not intended to be funny ''at all''.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' generally plays murder for comedy, with people snarking about how much their enemies suck, flirting with [[RandomlyDrops [[RandomDrop the loot]] and so on. ''VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', meanwhile, is about how Handsome Jack, the BigBad of ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}'', came to this conclusion, and that part is not intended to be funny ''at all''.



* In ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "Screams of Silence: The Story of Brenda Q.", Quagmire decides that the best solution to save his sister from her abusive boyfriend is to kill the bastard. Joe is initially against it, but ends up deciding to "waste this dick" after seeing for himself just how severe the problem really is.

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "Screams of Silence: The Story of Brenda Q.", Quagmire decides that the best solution to save his sister from her abusive boyfriend is to kill the bastard. Joe is initially against it, but ends up deciding to "waste this dick" after seeing for himself just how severe the problem really is.
21st Apr '17 11:09:36 PM genisgone
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* PlayedForDrama in ''Comicbook/TheWickedAndTheDivine'', when Minerva questions why, [[FridgeLogic if Woden could build a cage capable of housing a god on a rampage]], [[SpottingTheThread did Ananke feel the need to kill Lucifer?]]
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