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*** Miliardo's case is actually a {{subver|tedTrope}}sion, as he never actually intended to destroy all life on Earth. His goal was to end war by perpetrating a war so horrible that everyone would realize [[WarIsHell how awful it is.]] To do that, he needed to present a credible threat of such a scale that Earth would be forced to respond with armed resistance.

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*** Miliardo's case is actually a {{subver|tedTrope}}sion, as he never actually intended to destroy all life on Earth. His goal was to end war by perpetrating a war so horrible that everyone would realize [[WarIsHell how awful it is.]] is]]. To do that, he needed to present a credible threat of such a scale that Earth would be forced to respond with armed resistance.



* The villains of the 4th and 5th arcs of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' have absolutely no compunctions about murder being their Plans A, B and C when it comes to protecting their identity. In both cases, this is what attracts the protagonists. Although Bruno was gunning for Diavolo beforehand anyway, he wouldn't have had a chance of finding him had Diavolo not [[spoiler: had them bring Trish to him to kill her.]]
* ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' is a series about CrazyAwesome killers for hire, mob bosses, and other criminal elements -- essentially Action Movies played both straight and serious. The shock value lies in when a character makes the call ''not'' to automatically remove a living obstruction, though the obstruction probably dies anyway. The [[ActionSurvivor everyday protagonist]] [[spoiler:[[CharacterDevelopment has slowly]]]] [[ProtagonistJourneyToVillain come to terms with this]].

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* The villains of the 4th and 5th arcs of ''Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventure'' have absolutely no compunctions about murder being their Plans A, B B, and C when it comes to protecting their identity. In both cases, this is what attracts the protagonists. Although Bruno was gunning for Diavolo beforehand anyway, he wouldn't have had a chance of finding him had Diavolo not [[spoiler: had [[spoiler:had them bring Trish to him to kill her.]]
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* ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' is a series about CrazyAwesome killers for hire, mob bosses, and other criminal elements -- essentially Action Movies played both straight and serious. The shock value lies in when a character makes the call ''not'' to automatically remove a living obstruction, though the obstruction probably dies anyway. The [[ActionSurvivor everyday protagonist]] [[spoiler:[[CharacterDevelopment has slowly]]]] slowly]] [[ProtagonistJourneyToVillain come to terms with this]].this]]]].



** Deconstructed with Harusada. While she does resort to murdering rivals and [[spoiler:even her own ''grandkids'']], it's less because it's the ''best'' solution and more because it's the one with the most entertainment value, as she flat out stated that she murdered her sister because she was bored.

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** Deconstructed with Harusada. While she does resort to murdering rivals and [[spoiler:even her own ''grandkids'']], it's less because it's the ''best'' solution and more because it's the one with the most entertainment value, as she flat out flat-out stated that she murdered her sister because she was bored.



* ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet'': Ledo's personal philosophy. It's a given [[ForeverWar where he hails from]], but on Earth, it brings about serious consequences. As a result of Ledo using this option, he causes problems for the Gargantia fleet; first against human pirates, and later [[spoiler:when he kills a whale squid, which Chamber identifies as Hideauze, a large swarm of them pass by Gargantia, and Ledo is held at gunpoint to make sure he doesn't bring about any further hostilities from the whale squids by Ridget.]]

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* ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet'': Ledo's personal philosophy. It's a given [[ForeverWar where he hails from]], but on Earth, it brings about serious consequences. As a result of Ledo using this option, he causes problems for the Gargantia fleet; first against human pirates, and later [[spoiler:when he kills a whale squid, which Chamber identifies as Hideauze, a large swarm of them pass by Gargantia, and Ledo is held at gunpoint to make sure he doesn't bring about any further hostilities from the whale squids by Ridget.]]Ridget]].



** The Comedian certainly isn't above deadly force, but he really crosses the MoralEventHorizon when he murders [[spoiler:a Vietnamese woman who is pregnant with his child. The confrontation starts with him callously telling her he's leaving and not taking her back to America with him; in fact, he intends to forget all about her and her country. So, to make sure he ''remembers'' forever, she slashes his face with a broken bottle, but he didn't shoot her while she was coming at him. He shot her after he'd been slashed, and after she'd put the bottle down in response to him pulling a gun. She was practically begging him not to shoot for a solid 15 seconds before he pulled the trigger. It wasn't an instinctive, defensive response, it was murder]]. Afterwards, he points out to a shocked Doctor Manhattan (who was standing there the whole time), that [[AccompliceByInaction he's just as responsible for the outcome]], really; with his RealityWarper powers, Manhattan could have created any number of solutions by doing literally ''anything'' to prevent one or both acts of violence, but he just stood there and let it all happen.

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** The Comedian certainly isn't above deadly force, but he really crosses the MoralEventHorizon when he murders [[spoiler:a Vietnamese woman who is pregnant with his child. The confrontation starts with him callously telling her he's leaving and not taking her back to America with him; in fact, he intends to forget all about her and her country. So, to make sure he ''remembers'' forever, she slashes his face with a broken bottle, but he didn't shoot her while she was coming at him. He shot her after he'd been slashed, and after she'd put the bottle down in response to him pulling a gun. She was practically begging him not to shoot for a solid 15 seconds before he pulled the trigger. It wasn't an instinctive, defensive response, response; it was murder]]. Afterwards, he points out to a shocked Doctor Manhattan (who was standing there the whole time), that [[AccompliceByInaction he's just as responsible for the outcome]], really; with his RealityWarper powers, Manhattan could have created any number of solutions by doing literally ''anything'' to prevent one or both acts of violence, but he just stood there and let it all happen.



* ''{{ComicBook/Sabretooth}}'' chooses this for Weapon H in the current ongoing, Weapon X series. The team face Weapon H and are soundly defeated. Old Man Logan senses that he still has a moral compass, and wants to try talking to him. Creed feels that Weapon H is too dangerous not to kill, and they'd have many deaths on their conscience letting something like him live and possibly rampage through a city of innocents. Many don't take Creed seriously, given his [[SerialKiller less than good history]]. Warpath even points it out.

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* ''{{ComicBook/Sabretooth}}'' chooses this for Weapon H in the current ongoing, ongoing Weapon X series. The team face Weapon H and are soundly defeated. Old Man Logan senses that he still has a moral compass, and wants to try talking to him. Creed feels that Weapon H is too dangerous not to kill, and they'd have many deaths on their conscience letting something like him live and possibly rampage through a city of innocents. Many don't take Creed seriously, given his [[SerialKiller less than good history]]. Warpath even points it out.



* Played straight in Creator/SpiderRobinson's ''Literature/VariableStar'', [[PosthumousCollaboration based upon an outline by]] Creator/RobertAHeinlein. [[spoiler:The hero protagonist, explicitly stated to be trained in avoiding combat, decides on a plan to stop the villain by getting his own friend killed to distract a (likely innocent) bodyguard long enough to kill her as well. This despite controlling the villain's FTL ship (the only remaining valuable asset of a man obsessed with greed), the man who knows how to build new ones and is the pilot, the ship itself, both of the man's daughters, and ''the only possible escape route for the villain,'' '''and''' being able to escape with all of the above simply by climbing on board the ship and taking off.]]

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* Played straight in Creator/SpiderRobinson's ''Literature/VariableStar'', [[PosthumousCollaboration based upon an outline by]] Creator/RobertAHeinlein. [[spoiler:The hero [[strike:hero]] protagonist, explicitly stated to be trained in avoiding combat, decides on a plan to stop the villain by getting his own friend killed to distract a (likely innocent) bodyguard long enough to kill her as well. This despite controlling the villain's FTL ship (the only remaining valuable asset of a man obsessed with greed), the man who knows how to build new ones and is the pilot, the ship itself, both of the man's daughters, and ''the only possible escape route for the villain,'' '''and''' being able to escape with all of the above simply by climbing on board the ship and taking off.]]



* The ''Literature/AlexRider'' book series has WellIntentionedExtremist and BigBad of the fourth book [[spoiler:Damian Cray]], who, after petitioning and protesting against a laboratory testing its products on animals, came to realize that murder is the best solution. [[AxCrazy It]] [[ChaoticEvil all]] [[NukeEm went]] [[ApocalypseHow downhill.]]
* Lord Voldemort in ''Literature/HarryPotter''

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* The ''Literature/AlexRider'' book series has WellIntentionedExtremist and BigBad of the fourth book book, [[spoiler:Damian Cray]], who, after petitioning and protesting against a laboratory testing its products on animals, [[AnimalWrongsGroup came to realize that murder is the best solution.solution]]. [[AxCrazy It]] [[ChaoticEvil all]] [[NukeEm went]] [[ApocalypseHow downhill.]]
* Lord Voldemort in ''Literature/HarryPotter'' ''Literature/HarryPotter'':



* ''Literature/InDeath'' series: Hoo, boy. Since the main character is a Homicide detective, this trope comes up more often than not. For example, in ''Born In Death'', two people named Natalie and Bick apparently discovered something big, because the villain first attempted bribery and then murdered them. Eve and Roarke point out that whoever did this made a bad move, because there are ways to handle snoopers without getting the attention of the police by murdering them.

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* ''Literature/InDeath'' series: Hoo, boy. Since the main character is a Homicide detective, this trope comes up more often than not. For example, in ''Born In Death'', two people named Natalie and Bick [[HeKnowsTooMuch apparently discovered something big, big]], because the villain first attempted bribery and then murdered them. Eve and Roarke point out that whoever did this made a bad move, because there are ways to handle snoopers without [[RevealingCoverUp getting the attention of the police by murdering them.them]].



* This trope is deconstructed in the climax of ''War and Democide Never Again'' [[IndecisiveDeconstruction after being played painfully straight for the whole book up to that point]]. The mission of the two main characters is to travel back in time [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong to kill dictators before they end up in power]], and for the most part, they succeed without too much trouble. However, after they have killed most of the dictators, [[spoiler:Joy snaps and tries to kill a certain politician she doesn't like]], even though he has shown no dictatorial ambitions. John has no choice but [[spoiler:to kill her before she can kill her new target]]. Thus leading to the somewhat-{{Clueless Aesop}} that you really shouldn't kill anybody, [[PayEvilUntoEvil even if they deserve it]], [[ItGetsEasier lest you come to think]] that murder is the best solution and [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope try to kill everyone you disagree with]].
* Played straight in the ''Literature/TheHouseOfNight'', since [[spoiler:most of Kalona's problems wouldn't exist if, say, he had just wiped Heath's memory instead of killing him]].
* In Scott Sigler's ''Ancestor'', one of the two brothers in control of the Genada corporation has murder as a go-to solution. [[spoiler:He kills a woman trying to blow the whistle on the corporation, a government saboteur, suggests murdering an Army colonel investigating the company, and eventually tries to kill everyone involved on the project and blame it on a subordinate.]]

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* This trope is deconstructed in the climax of ''War and Democide Never Again'' Again'', [[IndecisiveDeconstruction after being played painfully straight for the whole book up to that point]]. The mission of the two main characters is to travel back in time [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong to kill dictators before they end up in power]], and for the most part, they succeed without too much trouble. However, after they have killed most of the dictators, [[spoiler:Joy snaps and tries to kill a certain politician she doesn't like]], even though he has shown no dictatorial ambitions. John has no choice but [[spoiler:to kill her before she can kill her new target]]. Thus leading to the somewhat-{{Clueless Aesop}} that you really shouldn't kill anybody, [[PayEvilUntoEvil even if they deserve it]], [[ItGetsEasier lest you come to think]] that murder is the best solution and [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope try to kill everyone you disagree with]].
* Played straight in the ''Literature/TheHouseOfNight'', since [[spoiler:most of Kalona's problems wouldn't exist if, say, he had just [[LaserGuidedAmnesia wiped Heath's memory memory]] instead of killing him]].
* In Scott Sigler's ''Ancestor'', one of the two brothers in control of the Genada corporation has murder as a go-to solution. [[spoiler:He kills a woman trying to blow the whistle on the corporation, a government saboteur, suggests murdering an Army colonel investigating the company, and eventually tries to kill everyone involved on with the project and blame it on a subordinate.]]



* Defied in ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' novel ''Crown Of the Slaves''. After Lt. Palane hands admiral Roszak her resignation, Roszak discusses the situation with his staff. One member points out that SheKnowsTooMuch, and then the other poins out all the reasons why this would be impractical idea: that their best assassin was Palane herself and she just resigned, that they'd be [[BullyingTheDragon trying to kill]] OneManArmy SuperSoldier, that [[RevealingCoverup nobody would believe]] that her being assassinated right after she resigned was a coincidence, and that she's close to three of the most dangerous people in the galaxy, each of which could kill them himself, not to mention her own BadassCrew. In other words they'd have to be TooDumbTolive to even try.

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* Defied in ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' novel ''Crown Of the Slaves''. After Lt. Palane hands admiral Admiral Roszak her resignation, Roszak discusses the situation with his staff. One member points out that SheKnowsTooMuch, and then the other poins points out all the reasons why this would be an impractical idea: that their best assassin was Palane herself and she just resigned, that they'd be [[BullyingTheDragon [[BullyingADragon trying to kill]] a OneManArmy SuperSoldier, that [[RevealingCoverup nobody would believe]] that her being assassinated right after she resigned was a coincidence, and that she's close to three of the most dangerous people in the galaxy, each of which could kill them himself, not to mention her own BadassCrew. In other words words, they'd have to be TooDumbTolive TooDumbToLive to even try.



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* In the TV film, ''Film/{{Conspiracy}}'', the Wannsee Conference where the FinalSolution phase of the Holocaust was devised has the Nazis discussing with coldblooded earnestness why killing the Third Reich's "undesirables" is the best means of dealing with them. At one point, sterilization is suggested as a practical alternative, [[PragmaticVillainy given the chronic shortage of manpower]]. The suggestion is bluntly overruled by Heinrich, who makes it clear that the decision has already been made by UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler. Only one of the men has any genuine moral problems with the mass murder -- the rest are simply discussing ''how best to organize it''.
* In the S2 finale of ''Series/RobinHood'', Marian learns that the Sheriff is planning to kill King Richard. Her solution? Kill him first. Never mind that: a) up until this moment Marian has been the voice of reason; b) it has already been established that if the Sheriff dies, Prince John will destroy Nottingham; and c) the general theme of the show has been to rely on non-violent solutions to problems.

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* In the TV film, ''Film/{{Conspiracy}}'', the Wannsee Conference where the FinalSolution phase of the Holocaust was devised has the Nazis discussing with coldblooded cold-blooded earnestness why killing the Third Reich's "undesirables" is the best means of dealing with them. At one point, sterilization is suggested as a practical alternative, [[PragmaticVillainy given the chronic shortage of manpower]]. The suggestion is bluntly overruled by Heinrich, who makes it clear that the decision has already been made by UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler. Only one of the men has any genuine moral problems with the mass murder -- the rest are simply discussing ''how best to organize it''.
* In the S2 finale of ''Series/RobinHood'', Marian learns that the Sheriff is planning to kill King Richard. Her solution? Kill him first. Never mind that: a) up until this moment moment, Marian has been the voice of reason; b) it has already been established that if the Sheriff dies, Prince John will destroy Nottingham; and c) the general theme of the show has been to rely on non-violent solutions to problems.



* Although [[HairTriggerTemper Fiona]] from ''Series/BurnNotice'' often suggests that murder is the best solution, with her it is almost always played for laughs. (See the comedic examples below). BrokenPedestal Larry, on the other hand, plays this trope far more seriously and is perfectly willing to kill ''anyone'', usually for no more reason than because it's easier and quicker that way.

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* Although [[HairTriggerTemper Fiona]] from ''Series/BurnNotice'' often suggests that murder is the best solution, with her it is almost always played for laughs. (See the comedic examples below). below.) BrokenPedestal Larry, on the other hand, plays this trope far more seriously and is perfectly willing to kill ''anyone'', usually for no more reason than because it's easier and quicker that way.



* In ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'', Damon's normal reaction to anyone (besides Stefan and Elena) causing a problem is to try and kill them. Unsurprisingly, this creates a lot more problems than it solves, especially because of his habit of overlooking factors like whether he's actually capable of killing them, whether anyone besides him wants them dead, whether they are actually the source of the problem, or whether they have friends who'll come looking for revenge.

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* In ''Series/TheVampireDiaries'', Damon's normal reaction to anyone (besides Stefan and Elena) causing a problem is to try and kill them. Unsurprisingly, this creates a lot more problems than it solves, especially because of his habit of overlooking factors like [[MuggingTheMonster whether he's actually capable of killing them, them]], whether anyone besides him wants them dead, whether they are actually the source of the problem, or whether they have friends who'll come looking for revenge.



** [[spoiler:Monk didn't like it ''at all'' when he found out (on the GrandFinale) that his wife had been a victim of this trope, courtesy of a SleazyPolitician (it's "sleazy" instead of "corrupt" because the reason for the murder (covering up an affair that she discovered) wasn't even ''that'' serious in hindsight).]]

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** [[spoiler:Monk [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge didn't like it ''at all'' it]] ''[[ItsPersonal at all]]'' when he found out (on the GrandFinale) that his wife had been a victim of this trope, courtesy of a SleazyPolitician (it's "sleazy" instead of "corrupt" because the reason for the murder (covering up an affair that she discovered) wasn't even ''that'' serious in hindsight).]]



* The first instinct of Lydia in ''Series/BreakingBad''. The second anyone's usefulness is up, out of fear that they'll come after her or inform on her, she will try to have them killed as quickly as possible. Of course, [[DirtyCoward she doesn't have the stomach to ever do it herself.]]

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* The first instinct of Lydia in ''Series/BreakingBad''. [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness The second anyone's usefulness is up, up]], out of fear that they'll come after her or inform on her, she will try to have them killed as quickly as possible. Of course, [[DirtyCoward she doesn't have the stomach to ever do it herself.]]



* On ''Series/{{Elementary}}'' an architect discovers that he made a crucial error in his designs for a skyscraper. Unless the building is at least 40 feet lower, it will collapse in a strong wind. Admitting the mistake would ruin his career so he instead murders an old woman who lives near the site where the skyscraper is to be built. Her death prevents the building's developer from buying "air rights" that he needs to obtain in order to build the skyscraper as designed and requires a redesign that will make the building shorter by the needed 40 feet. If the safe height was a few feet lower, the architect would have murdered the woman's neighbors instead to stop them from selling their "air rights".

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* On ''Series/{{Elementary}}'' ''Series/{{Elementary}}'', an architect discovers that he made a crucial error in his designs for a skyscraper. Unless the building is at least 40 feet lower, it will collapse in a strong wind. Admitting the mistake would ruin his career career, so he instead murders an old woman who lives near the site where the skyscraper is to be built. Her death prevents the building's developer from buying "air rights" that he needs to obtain in order to build the skyscraper as designed and requires a redesign that will make the building shorter by the needed 40 feet. If the safe height was a few feet lower, the architect would have murdered the woman's neighbors instead to stop them from selling their "air rights".



** The Americans (through Dumbarton and Carlsbad) offer to kill Thorne so that James and Zilpha can be together. James seems fine with this plan. However, when [[spoiler: Zilpha murders her husband to free herself from his abuse]], James is ''not'' fine, and believes that the act was a sin.
** [[spoiler: James then refuses Atticus' suggestion to kill Helga, when it becomes obvious Helga will betray them due to the death of Winter]].

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** The Americans (through Dumbarton and Carlsbad) offer to kill Thorne so that James and Zilpha can be together. James seems fine with this plan. However, when [[spoiler: Zilpha [[spoiler:Zilpha murders her husband to free herself from his abuse]], James is ''not'' fine, and believes that the act was a sin.
** [[spoiler: James [[spoiler:James then refuses Atticus' suggestion to kill Helga, when it becomes obvious Helga will betray them due to the death of Winter]].



** Strangely averted in one case: The Tyranid HiveMind sending its forces against an Imperial world was meeting stiff resistance thanks to the Cardinal stationed there. Knowing that merely killing him would turn him into a martyr and galvanize the defenders, it sent the Deathleaper (think [[Franchise/{{Alien}} Xenomorph]] {{ninja}}) to kill off the cardinal's bodyguards, subordinates, etc. right in front of him. New versions of these were assigned, but the Deathleaper came back almost immediately and did the same thing. Obviously, this drove him mad. Once the cardinal had lost the will to fight, the planet fell quickly.

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** Strangely averted in one case: The Tyranid HiveMind sending its forces against an Imperial world was meeting stiff resistance thanks to the Cardinal stationed there. [[DontCreateAMartyr Knowing that merely killing him would turn him into a martyr and galvanize the defenders, defenders]], it sent the Deathleaper (think [[Franchise/{{Alien}} Xenomorph]] {{ninja}}) to kill off the cardinal's bodyguards, subordinates, etc. right in front of him. New versions of these were assigned, but the Deathleaper came back almost immediately and did the same thing. Obviously, [[SanitySlippage this drove him mad.mad]]. Once the cardinal had lost the will to fight, the planet fell quickly.



*** ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV'' takes it to new heights with everyone who contacts Niko wanting him to be their personal hitman. {{Justified}} as that's Niko's job. The Deputy Commissioner takes this to new heights when, if you finish a mission to kill a single witness that (normally) requires you to kill a bunch of gangbangers, you'll get chewed out if you succeed in making it largely bloodless.

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*** ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIV'' takes it to new heights heights, with everyone who contacts Niko wanting him to be their personal hitman. {{Justified}} as that's Niko's job. The Deputy Commissioner takes this to new heights when, if you finish a mission to kill a single witness that (normally) requires you to kill a bunch of gangbangers, you'll get chewed out if you succeed in making it largely bloodless.



* ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2'' has one of Daichi's route choose to kill [[BigBad Polaris]], to free the world from [[spoiler:continuing to be devoured by the Void]]. The game treats the resulting ending as a happy one, but [[spoiler:killing Polaris has stopped the Void, yes, but the Void is changed into an endless ocean that may not be drinkable and only a tiny piece of land is the only thing remaining of earth's original landmasses. Humanity is free from being the toy of evil supernatural deities, but also receives no help from any benevolent ones. They are holding together in their survived crisis, but it's likely they are bound to slowly starve when resources deplete]].

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* ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor2'' has one of Daichi's route choose involve choosing to kill [[BigBad Polaris]], to free the world from [[spoiler:continuing to be devoured by the Void]]. The game treats the resulting ending as a happy one, but [[spoiler:killing Polaris has stopped the Void, yes, but the Void is changed into an endless ocean that may not be drinkable drinkable, and only a tiny piece of land is the only thing remaining of earth's Earth's original landmasses. Humanity is free from being the toy of evil supernatural deities, but also receives no help from any benevolent ones. They are holding together in their survived crisis, but it's likely they are bound to slowly starve when resources deplete]].



* In ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', because [[FriendlyFireProof friendly fire is turned off]], the most effective way of determining if an apparent teammate is actually a spy in disguise is to use lethal force. Particularly effective is setting them on fire. Of course, since the game is a first-person shooter where all the characters are psychopaths, violence is always the answer for everything else too.

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* In ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2'', because [[FriendlyFireProof friendly fire is turned off]], the most effective way of determining if an apparent teammate is actually a spy in disguise is to use lethal force. Particularly effective is setting Setting them on fire.fire is particularly effective. Of course, since the game is a first-person shooter where all the characters are psychopaths, violence is always the answer for everything else too.



* ''Totally'' a workable playstyle in ''VideoGame/DeusExHumanRevolution''. Every MacGuffin or bit of information - bar one - can be retrieved by simply killing the person holding it (or knocking them out, but this trope is about murder) and taking it off their body. And in the single exception's case, you can pay the man for information, ''then'' kill him and get your money back.

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* ''Totally'' a workable playstyle in ''VideoGame/DeusExHumanRevolution''. Every MacGuffin or bit of information - bar one - can be retrieved by simply killing the person holding it (or knocking them out, but this trope is about murder) and taking it off their body. And in the single exception's case, you can pay the man for information, ''then'' kill him and get your money back.



** Also the [[FanNickname aptly named]] Destruction-Ending of ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''. Depending on how you take [[GainaxEnding the last 15 minutes of the game]], complete annihilation may be regarded as [[ItsTheOnlyWayToBeSure the only option that saves the galaxy]].

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** Also the [[FanNickname aptly named]] Destruction-Ending aptly-named]] Destruction Ending of ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''. Depending on how you take [[GainaxEnding the last 15 minutes of the game]], complete annihilation may be regarded as [[ItsTheOnlyWayToBeSure the only option that saves the galaxy]].



** In general in the series (at least from ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollSIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' onward), it is possible for an indiscriminate player to complete most quests that would otherwise require faction relations, persuasion checks, or specialized skills (like picking locks or pockets) by prying the quest MacGuffin out of someone's cold, dead hands. Justified as it prevents the game from being UnwinnableByMistake if you manage to kill or bug out a vital quest chain NPC. In many of these cases (especially for factions like the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood), you generally don't receive as great of reward if you veer off the quest rails and take the full-blown murder path.
** Clavicus Vile, the [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Prince]] of [[DealWithTheDevil Bargains]] and [[LiteralGenie Wishes]], always holds up his end of whatever deal is struck, but usually does so in a way that the deal maker will regret. When he is at his most [[JerkassGenie malevolent]], usually because he has been separated from his [[MoralityPet external conscience]], [[BigFriendlyDog Barbas]], he enters this territory, believing that most wishes can be granted by killing the wish maker. Vampires asking for a cure for vampirism? Have a hero come in and [[MercyKill slaughter them all]]. A man whose daughter has been turned into a werewolf? Give him an axe to [[MercyKill put her down]]. Asking for peace in Skyrim? Do nothing and let the Dragons kill everyone. A village asking for immunity from the [[MysticalPlague Knahaten Flu]]? Turn them ''undead''.

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** In general in the series (at least from ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollSIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'' onward), it is possible for an indiscriminate player to complete most quests that would otherwise require faction relations, persuasion checks, or specialized skills (like picking locks or pockets) by prying the quest MacGuffin out of someone's cold, dead hands. Justified as it prevents the game from being UnwinnableByMistake if you manage to kill or bug out a vital quest chain NPC. In many of these cases (especially for factions like the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood), you generally don't receive as great of a reward if you veer off the quest rails and take the full-blown murder path.
** Clavicus Vile, the [[OurGodsAreDifferent Daedric Prince]] of [[DealWithTheDevil Bargains]] and [[LiteralGenie Wishes]], always holds up his end of whatever deal is struck, but usually does so in a way that the deal maker deal-maker will regret. When he is at his most [[JerkassGenie malevolent]], usually because he has been separated from his [[MoralityPet external conscience]], [[BigFriendlyDog Barbas]], he enters this territory, believing that most wishes can be granted by killing the wish maker.wish-maker. Vampires asking for a cure for vampirism? Have a hero come in and [[MercyKill slaughter them all]]. A man whose daughter has been turned into a werewolf? Give him an axe to [[MercyKill put her down]]. Asking for peace in Skyrim? Do nothing and let the Dragons kill everyone. A village asking for immunity from the [[MysticalPlague Knahaten Flu]]? Turn them ''undead''.



* As noted in the page quote, there comes a time when [[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins The Warden]] runs across a group of mages who've been driven mad by the trauma of watching demons rampage through their home and kill their friends. However, there is a slight hint of BlackComedy to it: not only to they discuss the idea as though it was some academic theorem, but if you stay hidden, they actually succeed in [[MutualKill all killing each other]], allowing you to bypass the fight with them you'd otherwise have to deal with.
* In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', many people are hopeful that Grand Cleric Elthina will be able to calm the mage-templar conflict, perhaps by taking a side. A massive exception is Hawke's companion and possible love interest Anders. [[spoiler:His solution is a dramatically overblown case of this trope; he believes the only option is an all-out mage templar war, so he provokes one by bombing the Chantry and thus killing the Grand Cleric and everyone else inside. Even worse because while both mages and templars are dangerous, he's slaughtering ''innocent priests.'' In his case, ''mass'' murder is the only option. And indeed, it provokes the war he wants.]] [[MemeticMutation Goddamnit, Anders.]]

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* As noted in the page quote, there comes a time when [[VideoGame/DragonAgeOrigins The Warden]] runs across a group of mages who've been driven mad by the trauma of watching demons rampage through their home and kill their friends. However, there is a slight hint of BlackComedy to it: not only to do they discuss the idea as though it was some academic theorem, but if you stay hidden, they actually succeed in [[MutualKill all killing each other]], allowing you to bypass the fight with them you'd otherwise have to deal with.
* In ''VideoGame/DragonAgeII'', many people are hopeful that Grand Cleric Elthina will be able to calm the mage-templar conflict, perhaps by taking a side. A massive exception is Hawke's companion and possible love interest Anders. [[spoiler:His solution is a dramatically overblown case of this trope; he believes the only option is an all-out mage templar mage-templar war, so he provokes one by bombing the Chantry and thus killing the Grand Cleric and everyone else inside. Even worse because while both mages and templars are dangerous, he's slaughtering ''innocent priests.'' In his case, ''mass'' murder is the only option. And indeed, it provokes the war he wants.]] [[MemeticMutation Goddamnit, Anders.]]



* [[DarkerAndEdgier Leliana]] by the time ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' begins is firmly entrenched in this, proposing murder for TheMole, her friend's rival, the Empress when you are trying to save her, threats to The Inquisition and the Alexis' son, plus a number of War Table missions have her suggest this as the best course of action.
** If you allow Leliana to kill a spying Sister during her advisor quest, she manages to become even ''more'' ruthless and it shows if she becomes Divine.
* In ''VideoGame/RabiRibi'', nearly ''every'' major character is introduced this way; they mistake Erina for someone hostile for some stupid reason and, despite Erina's and Ribbon's (one she's joined Erina) attempts to explain themselves, the character in question forces them to fight. Most of them make friends with Erina upon being defeated.
* ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' generally plays murder for comedy, with people snarking about how much their enemies suck, flirting with [[RandomDrop the loot]] and so on. ''VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', meanwhile, is about how Handsome Jack, the BigBad of ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}'', came to this conclusion, and that part is not intended to be funny ''at all''.

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* [[DarkerAndEdgier Leliana]] Leliana]], by the time ''VideoGame/DragonAgeInquisition'' begins begins, is firmly entrenched in this, proposing murder for TheMole, her friend's rival, the Empress when you are trying to save her, threats to The Inquisition Inquisition, and the Alexis' son, plus a number of War Table missions have her suggest this as the best course of action.
** If you allow Leliana to kill a spying Sister during her advisor quest, she manages to become even ''more'' ruthless ruthless, and it shows if she becomes Divine.
* In ''VideoGame/RabiRibi'', nearly ''every'' major character is introduced this way; they mistake Erina for someone hostile for some stupid reason and, despite Erina's and Ribbon's (one (once she's joined Erina) attempts to explain themselves, the character in question forces them to fight. Most of them make friends with Erina upon being defeated.
* ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' generally plays murder for comedy, with people snarking about how much their enemies suck, flirting with [[RandomDrop the loot]] loot]], and so on. ''VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel'', meanwhile, is about how Handsome Jack, the BigBad of ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}}'', came to this conclusion, and that part is not intended to be funny ''at all''.



* The Wiki/SCPFoundation is an organization that takes absolutely ''no'' chances; silencing witnesses and regularly executing D-Class personnel is routine for them. Literally, in the case of D-class personnel: all non-vital D-class personnel are slaughtered en masse at the end of each month to prevent them living long enough to escape, then replacing them with more life-term prisoners to make up the numbers (assuming they last that long). Demotion of other personnel to D-class is not uncommon either, should they mess up enough.

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* The Wiki/SCPFoundation is an organization that takes absolutely ''no'' chances; silencing witnesses and regularly executing D-Class personnel is routine for them. Literally, in the case of D-class personnel: all non-vital D-class personnel are slaughtered en masse at the end of each month to prevent them living long enough to escape, then replacing them with more life-term prisoners to make up the numbers (assuming they last that long). Demotion of other personnel to D-class is not uncommon uncommon, either, should they mess up enough.



* In a real life subversion of this trope, the FBI engaged in a program call COINTELPRO, a counter intelligence program aimed at people like Martin Luther King Junior and The Black Panthers. Their methods, among others, included Legal Harassment: The FBI and police abused the legal system to harass dissidents and make them appear to be criminals. When these methods failed (they often did), they would then employ Illegal force: The FBI conspired with local police departments to threaten dissidents; to conduct illegal break-ins in order to search dissident homes; and to commit vandalism, assaults, beatings, and assassinations. One such assassination was the death of Fred Hampton, leader of the Black Panther Party in Chicago. You can [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO read all about it]] on [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} the Other Wiki]].
* Multiple times in the Second Wave of Black Metal. [[Music/{{Emperor}} Faust]] was hit on by a homosexual in a park. He "rejected" the man by stabbing him to death and leaving him to die. Later, Euronymous, guitarist for Music/{{Mayhem}} fell out of favor in the scene and he blamed this on Varg Vikerenes of Music/{{Burzum}}. The solution to this was to kill Varg, who, rather than go to the police or anything, went into Euronymous' house and stabbed him twenty seven times "In Self Defense". Jon Nödtveidt of Dissection also engaged in this, in a manner very similar to Faust's (and, like the others, was imprisoned for it).

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* In a real life real-life subversion of this trope, the FBI engaged in a program call COINTELPRO, a counter intelligence counter-intelligence program aimed at people like Martin Luther King Junior and The Black Panthers. Their methods, among others, included Legal Harassment: The FBI and police abused the legal system to harass dissidents and make them appear to be criminals. When these methods failed (they often did), they would then employ Illegal illegal force: The FBI conspired with local police departments to threaten dissidents; to conduct illegal break-ins in order to search dissident homes; and to commit vandalism, assaults, beatings, and assassinations. One such assassination was the death of Fred Hampton, leader of the Black Panther Party in Chicago. You can [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO read all about it]] on [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} the Other Wiki]].
* Multiple times in the Second Wave of Black Metal. [[Music/{{Emperor}} Faust]] was hit on by a homosexual in a park. He "rejected" the man by stabbing him to death and leaving him to die. Later, Euronymous, guitarist for Music/{{Mayhem}} Music/{{Mayhem}}, fell out of favor in the scene scene, and he blamed this on Varg Vikerenes of Music/{{Burzum}}. The solution to this was to kill Varg, who, rather than go to the police or anything, went into Euronymous' house and stabbed him twenty seven times "In Self Defense".Self-Defense". Jon Nödtveidt of Dissection also engaged in this, in a manner very similar to Faust's (and, like the others, was imprisoned for it).



* In ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'', Grail-kun is always happy to help out someone in need by providing them a useful tool. Examples include the Hero Creation Kit (a knife, because "He'll become a hero after killing a million people."), the Friendmaker (a knife, so Shinji can "Show [Gilgamesh] who's boss") and the Servant Strengthening Device (a knife, so Kotomine can kill [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer]] and summon a better Servant).

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* In ''Anime/CarnivalPhantasm'', Grail-kun is always happy to help out someone in need by providing them a useful tool. Examples include the Hero Creation Kit (a knife, because "He'll become a hero after killing a million people."), the Friendmaker (a knife, so Shinji can "Show [Gilgamesh] who's boss") boss"), and the Servant Strengthening Device (a knife, so Kotomine can kill [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Lancer]] and summon a better Servant).



* In ''Manga/SamonTheSummoner'', while going bowling Samon tries to cheat in order to win, but when Neberios won't let him, he arrives at the conclusion that murder is the ONLY solution.

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* In ''Manga/SamonTheSummoner'', while going bowling bowling, Samon tries to cheat in order to win, but when Neberios won't let him, he arrives at the conclusion that murder is the ONLY solution.



* In the ''very first episode'' of ''Anime/PaniPoniDash'' [[ClassRepresentative Ichijou]] repeatedly tries to poison [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Becky]], insisting that this will solve everything. Rei, [[GenreSavvy being Rei]], picks up on this immediately and decides to have Ichijou [[NoFourthWall taken out of the episode]]. She ends up killing [[TheChewToy Becky's rabbit, Mesousa]] at the end of the first episode instead. In another episode, it's also implied that she killed [[SmallNameBigEgo Hibiki]] when the latter was spying on Becky.

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* In the ''very first episode'' of ''Anime/PaniPoniDash'' ''Anime/PaniPoniDash'', [[ClassRepresentative Ichijou]] repeatedly tries to poison [[AdorablyPrecociousChild Becky]], insisting that this will solve everything. Rei, [[GenreSavvy being Rei]], picks up on this immediately and decides to have Ichijou [[NoFourthWall taken out of the episode]]. She ends up killing [[TheChewToy Becky's rabbit, Mesousa]] at the end of the first episode instead. In another episode, it's also implied that she killed [[SmallNameBigEgo Hibiki]] when the latter was spying on Becky.



* ''Film/HotFuzz'': [[spoiler:The whole conspiracy]].

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* ''Film/HotFuzz'': [[spoiler:The whole conspiracy]].conspiracy.]]



-->'''Darwin:''' You two! There's nothing I hate more than failure! All you had to do was follow the Hawk. [[YouHaveFailedMe I suppose we'll just have to kill them]].\\

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-->'''Darwin:''' You two! There's nothing I hate more than failure! All you had to do was follow the Hawk. [[YouHaveFailedMe I suppose we'll just have to kill them]].\\them.]]\\



* A humorous variant on the previously mentioned ''Sarah Connor Chronicles'' example: Cameron discovers that James Ellison [[BerserkButton lied to the Connors]] about [[spoiler:Cromartie's corpse.]] She immediately decides to kill him, at which point Sarah tells her she ''can't'' kill him. Cameron's response?

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* A humorous variant on the previously mentioned ''Sarah Connor Chronicles'' example: Cameron discovers that James Ellison [[BerserkButton lied to the Connors]] about [[spoiler:Cromartie's corpse.]] corpse]]. She immediately decides to kill him, at which point Sarah tells her she ''can't'' kill him. Cameron's response?



* A RunningGag with the cast of ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' in regards to dealing with [[InsufferableGenius Sheldon]]. In fact, that's usually the first option/answer given whenever Sheldon becomes a problem, short of telling him to go away

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* A RunningGag with the cast of ''Series/TheBigBangTheory'' in regards to dealing with [[InsufferableGenius Sheldon]]. In fact, that's usually the first option/answer given whenever Sheldon becomes a problem, short of telling him to go awayaway.



* PlayedForLaughs as a group control tactic in ''TabletopGame/{{Pokethulhu}}''. It explicitly states that if you break the rules, the one who owns the game is permitted to kill you. (It cautions that this may be illegal, and urges you to ''never'' kill someone outside a gaming context).

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* PlayedForLaughs as a group control tactic in ''TabletopGame/{{Pokethulhu}}''. It explicitly states that if you break the rules, the one who owns the game is permitted to kill you. (It cautions that this may be illegal, and urges you to ''never'' kill someone outside a gaming context).context.)



*** And if you replace "eat" with "[[ThrownOutTheAirlock airlock]]" you get Javik of ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''.

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*** And if you replace "eat" with "[[ThrownOutTheAirlock airlock]]" airlock]]", you get Javik of ''VideoGame/MassEffect3''.



** For context, Grelod is an abusive orphanage manager who hates the job and the children, but refuses to let go of the position despite that. With her out of the way, her assistant who actually ''cares'' about the children can take over and things will improve for everyone, but the only way to get her out of the way is to kill her -- which ends up sending the wrong message to the children about how to solve their problems (especially since killing Grelod leads to absolutely no negative consequences the children could notice whatsoever -- she is so hated that even if you kill her right in front of a guard, you get no bounty).

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** For context, Grelod is an abusive orphanage manager who hates the job and the children, but refuses to let go of the position despite that. With her out of the way, her assistant who actually ''cares'' about the children can take over and things will improve for everyone, but the only way to get her out of the way is to kill her -- which ends up sending the wrong message to the children about how to solve their problems (especially since killing Grelod leads to absolutely no negative consequences the children could notice whatsoever -- she is so hated that even if you kill her right in front of a guard, you get no bounty).



* ''Webcomic/CtrlAltDel'': [[http://cad-comic.com/comic/not-stupid/ here]] and [[http://cad-comic.com/comic/the-truth-revealed/ here]]

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* ''Webcomic/CtrlAltDel'': [[http://cad-comic.com/comic/not-stupid/ here]] and [[http://cad-comic.com/comic/the-truth-revealed/ here]]here]].






* In ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' "Meeseeks and Destroy", the Meeseeks go insane from the pain of existence after days of failing to accomplish the nigh impossible task of taking two strokes off of [[ButtMonkey Jerry's]] golf game. After trying and failing to kill each other, the Meeseeks Jerry originally created decides the best way to take off two strokes is to take off ''all'' strokes -- by murdering Jerry so that he will never play golf again.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty'' "Meeseeks and Destroy", the Meeseeks go insane from the pain of existence after days of failing to accomplish the nigh impossible nigh-impossible task of taking two strokes off of [[ButtMonkey Jerry's]] golf game. After trying and failing to kill each other, the Meeseeks Jerry originally created decides the best way to take off two strokes is to take off ''all'' strokes -- by murdering Jerry so that he will never play golf again.
22nd Nov '17 4:19:42 AM Luigifan
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* ''Manga/ElfenLied''. Especially at the end, [[spoiler:when they go through with it without actually trying to think up any better plans.]].

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* ''Manga/ElfenLied''. Especially at the end, [[spoiler:when they go through with it without actually trying to think up any better plans.]].plans]].



* ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' is a series about CrazyAwesome killers for hire, mob bosses, and other criminal elements--essentially Action Movies played both straight and serious. The shock value lies in when a character makes the call ''not'' to automatically remove a living obstruction, though the obstruction probably dies anyway. The [[ActionSurvivor everyday protagonist]] [[spoiler: [[CharacterDevelopment has slowly]]]] [[ProtagonistJourneyToVillain come to terms with this]].
* In ''InazumaEleven'' with antagonist Kageyama: Best way to make sure the team you coach doesn't lose in their middle school soccer regional final match? Crush the opposing team of middle school kids to death of course. [[spoiler:Fortunately the captain of Kageyama's team, Kidou, works out his plan ahead of time and warns protaganist Endou about it.]]
** Again with Kageyama: Best way to make sure your team wins the middle school soccer tournament finals? Run over the opposing team captain's little sister with a truck so he runs away from the match. Fortunately she doesn't die from it, but there was every logical chance that she would have.
** Once again with Kageyama, although more indirectly this time. Before trying to crush them, Kageyama orders one of his spies sent to Raimon to [[spoiler:tamper with the bus that Raimon would take to the regional finals match, so that it's crash on the way there. Which happens to be the exact same thing he did to the legendary Inazuma Eleven, with said accident being the thing that seemingly killed Endou's grandfather]]. Natsumi finds out about it and forces the spy to to confess before the plan to go ahead.

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* ''Manga/BlackLagoon'' is a series about CrazyAwesome killers for hire, mob bosses, and other criminal elements--essentially elements -- essentially Action Movies played both straight and serious. The shock value lies in when a character makes the call ''not'' to automatically remove a living obstruction, though the obstruction probably dies anyway. The [[ActionSurvivor everyday protagonist]] [[spoiler: [[CharacterDevelopment [[spoiler:[[CharacterDevelopment has slowly]]]] [[ProtagonistJourneyToVillain come to terms with this]].
* In ''InazumaEleven'' with antagonist Kageyama: Best way to make sure the team you coach doesn't lose in their middle school soccer regional final match? Crush the opposing team of middle school kids to death death, of course. [[spoiler:Fortunately [[spoiler:Fortunately, the captain of Kageyama's team, Kidou, works out his plan ahead of time and warns protaganist Endou about it.]]
** Again with Kageyama: Best way to make sure your team wins the middle school soccer tournament finals? Run over the opposing team captain's little sister with a truck so he runs away from the match. Fortunately Fortunately, she doesn't die from it, but there was every logical chance that she would have.
** Once again with Kageyama, although more indirectly this time. Before trying to crush them, Kageyama orders one of his spies sent to Raimon to [[spoiler:tamper with the bus that Raimon would take to the regional finals match, so that it's it would crash on the way there. Which happens to be the exact same thing he did to the legendary Inazuma Eleven, with said accident being the thing that seemingly killed Endou's grandfather]]. Natsumi finds out about it and forces the spy to to confess before the plan to go ahead.



** The Reverend Kasuga believes that the grave is the safest place to keep secrets. This includes [[DisposableSexWorker prostitutes used to tempt a monk to break his vows]] (after other murders to force his hand), [[spoiler: the mother of Chie, who would become the female Shogun Iemitsu, and the doctor who witnessed the original Iemitsu's death from Redface Pox]].
** Deconstructed with Harusada. While she does resort to murdering rivals and [[spoiler: even her own ''grandkids'']], it's less because it's the ''best'' solution and more because it's the one with the most entertainment value, as she flat out stated that she murdered her sister because she was bored.
** Reconstructed with [[spoiler: Ienari's concubines]], though, who saw what Harusada had done and concluded that it was indeed the best solution to get rid of rivals [[spoiler: with the result that only half of Ienari's numerous children made it to adulthood.]]

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** The Reverend Kasuga believes that the grave is the safest place to keep secrets. This includes [[DisposableSexWorker prostitutes used to tempt a monk to break his vows]] (after other murders to force his hand), [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the mother of Chie, who would become the female Shogun Iemitsu, and the doctor who witnessed the original Iemitsu's death from Redface Pox]].
** Deconstructed with Harusada. While she does resort to murdering rivals and [[spoiler: even [[spoiler:even her own ''grandkids'']], it's less because it's the ''best'' solution and more because it's the one with the most entertainment value, as she flat out stated that she murdered her sister because she was bored.
** Reconstructed with [[spoiler: Ienari's [[spoiler:Ienari's concubines]], though, who saw what Harusada had done and concluded that it was indeed the best solution to get rid of rivals [[spoiler: with rivals, [[spoiler:with the result that only half of Ienari's numerous children made it to adulthood.]]adulthood]].



** [[spoiler:Ozymandias]] seems to solve ''all'' problems with murder. Unlike Rorschach and The Comedian, each kill is a premeditated one in cold blood intended to solve a specific problem to which there exist other solutions. It is debatable whether murder really is the ''best'' solution, but he believes in each case it is the best way to achieve his overall goal (or at least maintain the necessary secrecy). Usually he justifies it as "one life to save many".

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** [[spoiler:Ozymandias]] seems to solve ''all'' problems with murder. Unlike Rorschach and The Comedian, each kill is a premeditated one in cold blood intended to solve a specific problem to which there exist other solutions. It is debatable whether murder really is the ''best'' solution, but he believes in each case it is the best way to achieve his overall goal (or at least maintain the necessary secrecy). Usually Usually, he justifies it as "one life to save many".



--->'''Deadpool:''' I don't get it, if he loves her, but she loves him, why doesn't he just shoot him in the [[SymbolSwearing %^&*#ing]] face and settle the debate?

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--->'''Deadpool:''' I don't get it, if he loves her, but she loves him, why doesn't he just [[MurderTheHypotenuse shoot him him]] in the [[SymbolSwearing %^&*#ing]] face and settle the debate?



* ''{{ComicBook/Sabretooth}}'' chooses this for Weapon H in the current ongoing, Weapon X series. The team face Weapon H and are soundly defeated. Old Man Logan senses that he still has a moral compass, and wants to try talking to him. Creed feels that Weapon H is too dangerous not to kill, and they'd have many deaths on their conscious letting something like him live and possibly rampage through a city of innocents. Many don't take Creed seriously given his [[SerialKiller less than good history]]. Warpath even points it out.
--->'''Sabretooth:''' You know i'm right, Jimmy.\\
'''Warpath:''' Maybe. But if I bought every argument you just made, i'd have killed you the day we met.

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* ''{{ComicBook/Sabretooth}}'' chooses this for Weapon H in the current ongoing, Weapon X series. The team face Weapon H and are soundly defeated. Old Man Logan senses that he still has a moral compass, and wants to try talking to him. Creed feels that Weapon H is too dangerous not to kill, and they'd have many deaths on their conscious conscience letting something like him live and possibly rampage through a city of innocents. Many don't take Creed seriously seriously, given his [[SerialKiller less than good history]]. Warpath even points it out.
--->'''Sabretooth:''' You know i'm I'm right, Jimmy.\\
'''Warpath:''' Maybe. But if I bought every argument you just made, i'd I'd have killed you the day we met.



** This trope is pretty much the reason Frank doesn't has much of a recurring RoguesGallery (except for Jigsaw and The Kingpin). It takes a ''severe'' implementation of the JokerImmunity (normally through interfering superheroes) for a villain to walk away from Frank.
* Turned up to 11 by Drax the Destroyer in the ''Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' Comicbook/SecretInvasion tie-in. Since the only surefire way to detect Skrulls is that they revert to their true form when killed, his solution to the threat of Skrull infiltrators is to kill ''every single person in Knowhere''. Oh, and then resuscitate them all. And it works.

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** This trope is pretty much the reason Frank doesn't has have much of a recurring RoguesGallery (except for Jigsaw and The Kingpin). It takes a ''severe'' implementation of the JokerImmunity (normally through interfering superheroes) for a villain to walk away from Frank.
* Turned up to 11 by Drax the Destroyer in the ''Comicbook/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' Comicbook/SecretInvasion tie-in. Since the only surefire way to detect Skrulls is that [[ThisWasHisTrueForm they revert to their true form when killed, killed]], his solution to the threat of Skrull infiltrators is to kill ''every single person in Knowhere''. Oh, and then resuscitate them all. And it works.



* In the ''VideoGame/XComEnemyUnknown'' / ''Manga/BrynhildrInTheDarkness'' crossover [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10612918/1/X-Com-Into-Darkness X-Com Into Darkness]], this is TheConspiracy's main problem solver when it looks like a Magic User will get away. Problem is that they are now trying this on an [[BenevolentConspiracy internationally-funded, well trained Black Ops team charged with protecting humanity.]] [[RevealingCoverUp Now XCom is wondering why a bunch of people are trying to kill anyone who talks with these girls.]]

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* In the ''VideoGame/XComEnemyUnknown'' / ''Manga/BrynhildrInTheDarkness'' crossover [[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10612918/1/X-Com-Into-Darkness X-Com Into Darkness]], this is TheConspiracy's main problem solver when it looks like a Magic User will get away. Problem is that they are now trying this on an [[BenevolentConspiracy internationally-funded, well trained Black Ops team charged with protecting humanity.]] [[RevealingCoverUp Now XCom X-Com is wondering why a bunch of people are trying to kill anyone who talks with these girls.]]



* The example in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'' is remade to be a reconstruction of this trope in ''Fanfic/BadAlertTheExtreme''. In this canon, however, murder is the ''only'' solution to stopping Lady Tremaine, her two daughters, and [[VideoGame/RatchetAndClankUpYourArsenal Courtney Gears]], from spreading their evil across the multiverse.

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* The example in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'' is remade to be a reconstruction of this trope in ''Fanfic/BadAlertTheExtreme''. In this canon, however, murder is the ''only'' solution to for stopping Lady Tremaine, her two daughters, and [[VideoGame/RatchetAndClankUpYourArsenal Courtney Gears]], Gears]] from spreading their evil across the multiverse.



* Martin Donnelly, from ''Film/TheRecklessMoment'', knows that the only way to get rid of his blackmailing partner from threatening Lucia is by killing him.

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* Martin Donnelly, from ''Film/TheRecklessMoment'', knows that the only way to get rid of stop his blackmailing partner from threatening Lucia is by killing him.



* The Queen of Hearts from ''[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Alice's Adventures in Wonderland]]''. As the solution of every problem, no matter how minor, she instructs "off with his head". This rarely ever actually happens, though.

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* The Queen of Hearts from ''[[Literature/AliceInWonderland Alice's Adventures in Wonderland]]''. As the solution of for every problem, no matter how minor, she instructs "off with his head". This rarely ever actually happens, though.
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In contrast with ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, where other options aren't reasonable, when murder is the best solution there are plenty of other options, but murder and mayhem are chosen anyway. Compare with CuttingTheKnot, which is essentially violence being used as an answer - though the success varies.

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In contrast with ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, where other options aren't reasonable, when murder is the best solution there are plenty of other options, but murder and mayhem are chosen anyway. Compare with CuttingTheKnot, which is essentially violence being used as an answer - though the success varies.
10th Nov '17 9:00:14 AM Rlaein
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* ''Webcomic/CtrlAltDel'': [[http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20030227 here]] and [[http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20030311 here]]

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* ''Webcomic/CtrlAltDel'': [[http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20030227 [[http://cad-comic.com/comic/not-stupid/ here]] and [[http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20030311 [[http://cad-comic.com/comic/the-truth-revealed/ here]]
4th Nov '17 3:04:21 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''Anime/GargantiaOnTheVerdurousPlanet'': Ledo's personal philosophy. It's a given [[ForeverWar where he hails from]], but on Earth, it brings about serious consequences. As a result of Ledo using this option, he causes problems for the Gargantia fleet; first against human pirates, and later [[spoiler:when he kills a whale squid, which Chamber identifies as Hideauze, a large swarm of them pass by Gargantia, and Ledo is held at gunpoint to make sure he doesn't bring about any further hostilities from the whale squids by Ridget.]]
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* In the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "Screams of Silence: The Story of Brenda Q.", Quagmire decides that the best solution to save his sister from her abusive boyfriend is to kill the bastard. Joe is initially against it, but ends up deciding to "waste this dick" after seeing for himself just how severe the problem really is.

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* In the ''WesternAnimation/FamilyGuy'' episode "Screams "[[Recap/FamilyGuyS10E3ScreamsOfSilenceTheStoryOfBrendaQ Screams of Silence: The Story of Brenda Q.", ]]", Quagmire decides that the best solution to save his sister from her abusive boyfriend is to kill the bastard. Joe is initially against it, but ends up deciding to "waste this dick" after seeing for himself just how severe the problem really is.
16th Oct '17 3:33:26 PM SilverFang
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* ''{{ComicBook/Sabretooth}}'' chooses this for Weapon H in the current ongoing, Weapon X series. The team face Weapon H and are soundly defeated. Old Man Logan senses that he still has a moral compass, and wants to try talking to him. Creed feels that Weapon H is too dangerous not to kill, and they'd have many deaths on their conscious letting something like him live and possibly rampage through a city of innocents. Many don't take Creed seriously [[AxCrazy given his [[AxCrazy less]] [[SerialKiller than good history]]. Warpath even points it out.

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* ''{{ComicBook/Sabretooth}}'' chooses this for Weapon H in the current ongoing, Weapon X series. The team face Weapon H and are soundly defeated. Old Man Logan senses that he still has a moral compass, and wants to try talking to him. Creed feels that Weapon H is too dangerous not to kill, and they'd have many deaths on their conscious letting something like him live and possibly rampage through a city of innocents. Many don't take Creed seriously [[AxCrazy given his [[AxCrazy less]] [[SerialKiller less than good history]]. Warpath even points it out.
16th Oct '17 3:30:57 PM SilverFang
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* ''{{ComicBook/Sabretooth}}'' chooses this for Weapon H in the current ongoing, Weapon X series. The team face Weapon H and are soundly defeated. Old Man Logan senses that he still has a moral compass, and wants to try talking to him. Creed feels that Weapon H is too dangerous not to kill, and they'd have many deaths on their conscious letting something like him live and possibly rampage through a city of innocents. Many don't take Creed seriously [[AxCrazy given his [[AxCrazy less]] [[SerialKiller than good history]]. Warpath even points it out.
--->'''Sabretooth:''' You know i'm right, Jimmy.\\
'''Warpath:''' Maybe. But if I bought every argument you just made, i'd have killed you the day we met.
11th Oct '17 9:09:27 AM NNinja
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* Defied in ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' novel ''Crown Of the Slaves''. After Lt. Palane hands admiral Roszak her resignation, Roszak discusses the situation with his staff. One member points out that SheKnowsTooMuch, and then the other poins out all the reasons why this would be impractical idea: that their best assassin was Palane herself and she just resigned, that they'd be [[BullyingTheDragon trying to kill]] OneManArmy SuperSoldier, that [[RevealingCoverup nobody would believe]] that her being assassinated right after she resigned was a coincidence, and that she's close to three of the most dangerous people in the galaxy, each of which could kill them himself, not to mention her own BadassCrew. In other words they'd have to be TooDumbTolive to even try.
29th Sep '17 6:02:33 PM AndreaTx
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* In season 12 of ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', the British Men of Letters come to the US to help the American hunters get their monster problem under control. When the American hunters refuse to do what the Brits say, the Men of Letters decide the best solution is to murder all of them.

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* In season 12 of ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', the British Men of Letters come to the US to help the American hunters get their monster problem under control. When the American hunters refuse to do what the Brits say, the Men of Letters decide the best solution is to murder all of them.the hunters.
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