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16th Aug '17 2:28:50 AM Vir
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* In the video game ''VideoGame/TheMisadventuresOfTronBonne'' you start out with a million in debt that you have to pay off. When you raise that money, the loan shark takes it and insists that you now owe Interest that comes to 2 million MORE. When you finally pay that off, he says that you owe interest on your interest. When the main character refuses to comply, he kidnaps her and forces you to invade and destroy everything.[[spoiler:The ending shows Teisel claiming that it was all [[ThePlan part of his plan]] to get the entire stash of the BigBad. On one hand, tricking someone you know will try this trope is believable. On the other hand... [[BigBadWannabe the Bonnes coming up with that]]?]]

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* In the video game ''VideoGame/TheMisadventuresOfTronBonne'' you start out with a million in debt that you have to pay off. When you raise that money, the loan shark takes it and insists that you now owe Interest that comes to 2 million MORE. When you finally pay that off, he says that you owe interest on your interest. When the main character refuses to comply, he kidnaps her and forces you to invade and destroy everything.[[spoiler:The ending shows Teisel claiming that it was all [[ThePlan part of his plan]] to get the entire stash of the BigBad. On one hand, tricking someone you know will try this trope is believable. On the other hand... [[BigBadWannabe the Bonnes coming up with that]]?]]


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* In an FMV promoting ''VideoGame/CrashOfTheTitans'', Nina goes to a salon that has a sign in the window saying that it's giving manicures for $10. The owner clearly does not want to work on her {{cyborg}} hands, so they throw her out and change the sign to say that it's $20 for cyborgs. When she gets the money from Dr. Cortex, the short ends with them throwing her out again and making another addendum to the sign saying that it's now $20 per hand.
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4th Aug '17 12:56:54 PM Kadorhal
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* Jack Thompson wrote a "Modest Video Game Proposal", wherein he promised to donate $10,000 to a charity of the choosing of Paul Eibeler (former chairman of Take-Two Interactive, publisher of ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto'' and target of Thompson's ire) for the creation of a video game involving the player going on a killing spree against people in the gaming industry. Such a game was made, in the form of ''VideoGame/ImOK''. Thompson reneged on his end of the deal, though, saying the game had to be published and sold commercially. Thankfully, ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' jumped to the rescue, donating the 10K in Jack's name to the Entertainment Software Association Foundation Charity "''for Jack Thompson, [[TakeThat because Jack Thompson won't]]''". [[FrivolousLawsuit And then Jack Thompson tried to sue them for it.]]

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* Jack Thompson wrote a "Modest Video Game Proposal", wherein he promised to donate $10,000 to a charity of the choosing of Paul Eibeler (former chairman (then-chairman of Take-Two Interactive, publisher of ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto'' and target of Thompson's ire) for the creation of a video game involving the player going on a killing spree against people in the gaming industry. Such a game was made, in the form of ''VideoGame/ImOK''. Thompson reneged on his end of the deal, though, saying the game had to be published and sold commercially. Thankfully, ''Webcomic/PennyArcade'' jumped to the rescue, donating the 10K in Jack's name to the Entertainment Software Association Foundation Charity "''for Jack Thompson, [[TakeThat because Jack Thompson won't]]''". [[FrivolousLawsuit And then Jack Thompson tried to sue them for it.]]



** Likewise, when conspiracy theorists claimed that the towers were brought down by controlled use of thermite [[note]]in response to people pointing out the lack of loud noises from explosive charges[[/note]], experts showed that the pattern of destruction was incompatible with the way in which thermite burns, at which point conspiracy theorists immediately claimed that it was done with an unknown "super thermite"[[note]]Based on a substance called "nano-thermite", which of course doesn't act like they think.[[/note]] that didn't act like regular thermite, even though there was no evidence that this super thermite actually existed.
*** Some now claim that it was some combination of some variant of thermite ''and'' explosives, despite the fact that this has all the flaws of both theories; both the loud bangs of explosives, ''and'' the bright flashes of thermite.

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** Likewise, when conspiracy theorists claimed that the towers were brought down by controlled use of thermite [[note]]in response to people pointing out the lack of loud noises from explosive charges[[/note]], experts showed that the pattern of destruction was incompatible with the way in which thermite burns, at which point conspiracy theorists immediately claimed that it was done with an unknown "super thermite"[[note]]Based on a substance called "nano-thermite", which of course doesn't act like they think.[[/note]] that didn't act like regular thermite, even though there was no evidence that this super thermite actually existed. \n*** Some now claim that it was some combination of some variant of thermite ''and'' explosives, despite the fact that this has all the flaws of both theories; theories (lacking both the loud bangs of explosives, explosives ''and'' the bright flashes of thermite.thermite).
4th Aug '17 12:49:02 PM Kadorhal
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** Got some voluntary work? That'll look good on your resume. Unpaid internships? Even better. Wait, is everyone doing volunteering and interning now, just to get better resumes...? Add it all up, and you'll have some companies who will only hire bachelors' graduates for their ''internship positions'' due to demand there too. And then only honours' graduates... Even better, they'll add the requirement "minimum X years experience," with numbers that get higher and higher.\\
It's odd enough to apply for an entry-level position that requires you to have 5 to 7 years experience in the job, this gets ridiculous when the requirement is for jobs (or software) that ''haven't existed'' for that long.

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** Got some voluntary work? That'll look good on your resume. Unpaid internships? Even better. Wait, is everyone doing volunteering and interning now, just to get better resumes...? Add it all up, and you'll have some companies who will only hire bachelors' graduates for their ''internship positions'' due to demand there too. And then only honours' graduates... Even better, they'll add the requirement "minimum X years experience," with numbers that get higher and higher.\\
It's odd enough to apply for an entry-level position that requires you to have 5 to 7 years experience in the job, but this gets ridiculous when the requirement is for jobs (or software) that ''haven't existed'' for that long.



* Before the Civil Rights Act was passed in the 1960s, voter literacy tests in parts of the DeepSouth were [[UnwinnableByDesign deliberately designed to be impossible to pass]], in order to disenfranchise a large number of voters.
** To ensure that ''only'' black voters were disenfranchised, these tests were coupled with the trope-naming GrandfatherClause - if your grandfather was eligible to vote, so are you, regardless of whether you can pass the literacy test.

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* Before the Civil Rights Act was passed in the 1960s, voter literacy tests in parts of the DeepSouth were [[UnwinnableByDesign deliberately designed to be impossible to pass]], in order to disenfranchise a large number of voters.
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voters. And to ensure that ''only'' black voters were disenfranchised, these tests were coupled with the trope-naming GrandfatherClause - if your grandfather was eligible to vote, so are you, regardless of whether you can pass the literacy test.



* ''[=ReactOS=]'', an attempt to implement an open-source OS capable of running Windows programs, has been hit by this from the get-go. It started out as ''[=FreeWin95=]'' back in 1996 with the goal to implement Windows 95 support. Then it went silent and was revamped into it's current form in 1998, with the goal changed to implement Windows NT 4 support. Then it just kept moving forward from there. The team has currently agreed to keep their target locked at implementing Windows XP support to prevent this trope from affecting them further.
* [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement While opinions of her policies are beyond the scope of this wiki]], some view this as hitting UsefulNotes/HillaryClinton twice. Her husband was extremely popular in office as a fairly conservative Democrat, so in 2008 she ran her campaign with a sense that she would govern in a manner similar to her husband. Unfortunately, the Democratic Party has moved to the left and the nomination went to UsefulNotes/BarackObama. Eight years later, having spent time as Secretary of State and becoming something of TheDragon to Obama she effectively ran as an extension of Obama's legacy... however, the Democratic base had now shifted to the Left of him as well. While she won the nomination to run for president, this was only after an intensely heated Primary against Senator Bernie Sanders and getting a concession by pledging to adopt some of Sanders' positions as her own.
** And after all that, Clinton ''still'' lost to UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump, due to the [[UsefulNotes/AmericanPoliticalSystem Electoral College]]; despite "winning" the popular vote ([[http://www.globalresearch.ca/actually-nobody-won-the-2016-presidential-election-and-the-i-voted-for-nobody-group-was-a-landslide/5556857 About 47%]] of the USA didn't vote for anyone in 2016).
* Climate change/global warming deniers are known to do this. They used to say that global warming does not exist at all and the earth is actually cooling. While this is still somewhat prevalent in some rightist circles, most have moved the goalpost to "Global warming is real, but it's not man-made."

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* ''[=ReactOS=]'', an attempt to implement an open-source OS capable of running Windows programs, has been hit by this from the get-go. It started out as ''[=FreeWin95=]'' back in 1996 with the goal to implement Windows 95 support. Then it went silent and was revamped into it's its current form in 1998, with the goal changed to implement Windows NT 4 support. Then it just kept moving forward from there. The team has currently agreed to keep their target locked at implementing Windows XP support to prevent this trope from affecting them further.
* [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement While opinions of her policies are beyond the scope of this wiki]], some view this as hitting UsefulNotes/HillaryClinton twice. Her husband was extremely popular in office as a fairly conservative Democrat, so in 2008 she ran her campaign with a sense that she would govern in a manner similar to her husband. Unfortunately, the Democratic Party has had moved to the left by then, and the nomination went to UsefulNotes/BarackObama. Eight years later, having spent time as Secretary of State and becoming something of TheDragon to Obama Obama, she effectively ran as an extension of Obama's legacy... however, the Democratic base had now shifted further to the Left of him as well. While she won the nomination to run for president, this was only after an intensely heated Primary against Senator Bernie Sanders and getting a concession by pledging to adopt some of Sanders' positions as her own.
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own. And after all that, Clinton ''still'' lost to UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump, due to the [[UsefulNotes/AmericanPoliticalSystem Electoral College]]; UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump, despite "winning" the popular vote ([[http://www.(technically; [[http://www.globalresearch.ca/actually-nobody-won-the-2016-presidential-election-and-the-i-voted-for-nobody-group-was-a-landslide/5556857 About about 47%]] of the USA didn't vote for anyone in 2016).
2016), due to the [[UsefulNotes/AmericanPoliticalSystem Electoral College]].
* Climate change/global warming deniers are known to do this. They used to say that global warming does not exist at all and the earth is actually cooling. While this is still somewhat prevalent in some rightist circles, most have moved the goalpost to "Global warming is real, but it's not man-made." "
29th Jul '17 12:02:44 AM CASCHero
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* In ''VideoGame/BioShock'', Atlas is ticked off at how every time you come close to your goal Ryan does something to slow you down. Claiming that every time you make a touchdown, Ryan just pushes the goalposts further down the field. [[spoiler: Of course once Ryan is taken care of, you now have to deal with Atlas or, as he's really known, Fontaine who tries to kill you. You start to go after him after you broken free from the brainwashing he put on you. He has a backup plan in the form of a code which messes with your biology and you have to scour for item to get that cured. When you manage, Fontaine blows up a passage to keep him from getting to you and now you have to find a way around that before finally confronting him.]]

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* In ''VideoGame/BioShock'', Atlas is ticked off at how every time you come close to your goal Ryan does something to slow you down. Claiming that every time you make a touchdown, Ryan just pushes the goalposts further down the field. [[spoiler: Of course once Ryan is taken care of, you now have to deal with Atlas or, as he's really known, Fontaine who tries to kill you. You start to go after him after you broken free from the brainwashing he put on you. He has a backup plan in the form of a code which messes with your biology and you have to scour for item items to get that cured. When you manage, Fontaine blows up a passage to keep him you from getting to you him and now you have to find a way around that before finally confronting him.]]
29th Jul '17 12:01:36 AM CASCHero
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* In ''VideoGame/BioShock'', Atlas is ticked off at how every time you come close to your goal Ryan does something to slow you down. Claiming that every time you make a touchdown, Ryan just pushes the goalposts further down the field.

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* In ''VideoGame/BioShock'', Atlas is ticked off at how every time you come close to your goal Ryan does something to slow you down. Claiming that every time you make a touchdown, Ryan just pushes the goalposts further down the field. [[spoiler: Of course once Ryan is taken care of, you now have to deal with Atlas or, as he's really known, Fontaine who tries to kill you. You start to go after him after you broken free from the brainwashing he put on you. He has a backup plan in the form of a code which messes with your biology and you have to scour for item to get that cured. When you manage, Fontaine blows up a passage to keep him from getting to you and now you have to find a way around that before finally confronting him.]]
28th Jul '17 10:46:37 PM Vox
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'''Lando Calrissian:''' You said they'd be left at the city under my supervision.\\

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25th Jul '17 10:08:31 AM justanid
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** And after all that, Clinton ''still'' lost to UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump, due to a combination of her campaign assuming her victory would be a ForegoneConclusion, numerous scandals involving privacy and the breach thereof (though Trump had his fair share as well), as well as Trump campaigning largely in the oft-forgotten right-leaning FlyoverCountry, whereas Clinton mostly focused on the larger cities on either coast, which are predominantly left-leaning.

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** And after all that, Clinton ''still'' lost to UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump, due to a combination of her campaign assuming her victory would be a ForegoneConclusion, numerous scandals involving privacy and the breach thereof (though Trump had his fair share as well), as well as Trump campaigning largely in [[UsefulNotes/AmericanPoliticalSystem Electoral College]]; despite "winning" the oft-forgotten right-leaning FlyoverCountry, whereas Clinton mostly focused on popular vote ([[http://www.globalresearch.ca/actually-nobody-won-the-2016-presidential-election-and-the-i-voted-for-nobody-group-was-a-landslide/5556857 About 47%]] of the larger cities on either coast, which are predominantly left-leaning.USA didn't vote for anyone in 2016).
25th Jul '17 9:56:20 AM justanid
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It's odd enough to apply for an entry-level position that requires you to have 5 to 7 years experience in the job, this gets ridiculous when the requirement is for jobs (or software) that ''hasn't existed'' for that long.

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It's odd enough to apply for an entry-level position that requires you to have 5 to 7 years experience in the job, this gets ridiculous when the requirement is for jobs (or software) that ''hasn't ''haven't existed'' for that long.
25th Jul '17 9:55:22 AM justanid
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** Got some voluntary work? That'll look good on your resume. Unpaid internships? Even better. Wait, is everyone doing volunteering and interning now, just to get better resumes...? Add it all up, and you'll have some companies who will only hire bachelors' graduates for their ''internship positions'' due to demand there too. And then only honours' graduates... Even better, they'll add the requirement "minimum X years experience," with numbers that get higher and higher. Odd enough to apply for an entry-level position that requires you to have five to seven year's experience in the job.

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** Got some voluntary work? That'll look good on your resume. Unpaid internships? Even better. Wait, is everyone doing volunteering and interning now, just to get better resumes...? Add it all up, and you'll have some companies who will only hire bachelors' graduates for their ''internship positions'' due to demand there too. And then only honours' graduates... Even better, they'll add the requirement "minimum X years experience," with numbers that get higher and higher. Odd \\
It's odd
enough to apply for an entry-level position that requires you to have five 5 to seven year's 7 years experience in the job.job, this gets ridiculous when the requirement is for jobs (or software) that ''hasn't existed'' for that long.
25th Jul '17 9:32:31 AM justanid
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* Attempting to fudge the results of a wargame, exercise, or test of a new piece of equipment when it doesn't come out the way someone wants has a long and inglorious tradition in many militaries. Possibly the most notorious example in recent years was the 2002 Millennium Challenge wargame when Lt. Gen [[AwesomeMcCoolname Paul van Riper]] publicly accused the organizers of cheating to ensure a US victory when his unconventional tactics, playing the technologically inferior enemy force, sank the US fleet (which were arbitrarily refloated to restart the exercise and had the rules changed so they were untouchable), prevented communication interception by using couriers instead of radio or telephone (which had the rules changed so he wasn't allowed to do it), and forced the opposition into using tactics which made them mincemeat for American weapons and tactics.
** However, he also abused the rules set up for the game to win, including doing things that are simply impossible in real life, such as launching cruise missiles from boats that weighed less than them. This is by and large why the wargame was thrown out, as both sides had bent the rules so much that the challenge had virtually no basis in reality anymore.

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* Attempting to fudge the results of a wargame, exercise, or test of a new piece of equipment when it doesn't come out the way someone wants has a long and inglorious tradition in many militaries. militaries.
**
Possibly the most notorious example in recent years was the 2002 [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Challenge_2002 Millennium Challenge wargame 2002 wargame]] when Lt. Gen [[AwesomeMcCoolname Paul van Riper]] publicly accused the organizers of cheating scripting the event to ensure a US victory when his unconventional tactics, playing the technologically inferior enemy force, sank the US fleet (which were arbitrarily refloated to restart the exercise and had the rules changed so they were untouchable), prevented communication interception by using couriers instead of radio or telephone (which had the rules changed so he wasn't allowed to do it), and forced the opposition into using tactics which made them mincemeat for American weapons and tactics.
** However, he also abused the rules set up for the game to win, including doing things that are simply impossible in real life, such as launching cruise missiles from boats that weighed less than them. This is by and large why
tactics. The articles reporting on the wargame was thrown out, as both sides had bent the rules so (including a chapter of ''Literature/{{Blink}}'') show just how much that the challenge had virtually no basis in reality anymore.event was a waste of $250 million.
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