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*Climate change/global warming deniers are known to do this. They used to say that global warming does not exist at all and the earth is actually cooling. While this is still somewhat prevalent in some rightist circles, most have moved the goalpost to "Global warming is real, but it's not man-made."
11th May '17 6:52:52 PM Wildstar93
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* One ''ComicStrip/{{Garfield}}'' has Garfield approach a "Keep off the grass" sign. So he climbs up onto the sign...only for another sign to pop up, saying "Keep off the 'Keep off the grass' sign". Garfield's "Oh, come on!" is golden.


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* In ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', [[AffablyEvil Scaramouche]] is reduced to a bouncing head and is told by a ship guard "No shirt, no shoes, no body, NO SERVICE". So he comes back pretending to have a dog's body, only for the sign to suddenly say "No shirt, no shoes, no body, no dogs, NO SERVICE".
11th May '17 2:25:24 PM rva98014
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* ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'': [[DaChief Chief Bogo]] attempts this on Judy several times. When he first allows her a Missing Mammal case, he adds the condition that she solve it in 48 hours or resign. Later, after he responds to her emergency call about a savage jaguar, he doesn't believe Judy because he thinks she was the only one who saw it. When she replies that she has a witness, he rejects her evidence on the grounds that, "You think I'm going to trust the word of a fox?!" He then orders her to return her badge, even though her 48 hours aren't up and resigning after one mistake wasn't part of their deal. Thankfully, [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Nick calls him out on it]].

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* ''Disney/{{Zootopia}}'': [[DaChief Chief Bogo]] attempts this on Judy several times. Judy. When he first allows her to take on a Missing Mammal case, he adds the condition that she solve it in 48 hours or resign. Later, after he responds to her emergency call about a savage jaguar, he doesn't believe Judy because he thinks she was the only one who saw it. When she replies jaguar that she has a witness, is not present when he rejects her evidence on the grounds that, "You think I'm going to trust the word of a fox?!" He then arrives, he orders her to return turn in her badge, even though her 48 hours aren't up and resigning after one mistake wasn't part of their deal. Thankfully, [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech [[WhatTheHellHero Nick calls him out on it]].
10th May '17 10:42:11 PM Luigifan
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This set up can end in a number of ways. Sometimes, just to add insult to injury, Alice will manipulate Bob until she gets bored or has everything she needs, then tells Bob sorry, but it'll never happen (e.g. someone else has been given the promotion that Bob's been chasing). Sometimes this will result in a FreakOut and some well deserved retribution. Alternatively, Alice will develop a conscience (or a third party will hammer one into her) and finally live up to her promise. A third option is that Bob will decide CelebrityIsOverrated and no reward is worth endless, humiliating and unappreciated labor, which, ironically, may [[SweetAndSourGrapes lead to Alice finally letting him have the now-worthless bargaining chip]]. In {{Fairy Tale}}s, the king setting Impossible Tasks may eventually decide it's not worth it, but, usually, one of the tasks backfires on him. Badly.

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This set up can end in a number of ways. Sometimes, just to add insult to injury, Alice will manipulate Bob until she gets bored or has everything she needs, then tells Bob sorry, but it'll never happen (e.g. someone else has been given the promotion that Bob's been chasing). Sometimes this will result in a FreakOut and some well deserved well-deserved retribution. Alternatively, Alice will develop a conscience (or a third party will hammer one into her) and finally live up to her promise. A third option is that Bob will decide CelebrityIsOverrated and no reward is worth endless, humiliating humiliating, and unappreciated labor, which, ironically, may [[SweetAndSourGrapes lead to Alice finally letting him have the now-worthless bargaining chip]]. In {{Fairy Tale}}s, the king setting Impossible Tasks may eventually decide it's not worth it, but, usually, one of the tasks backfires on him. Badly.



The effect on the viewer depends on whose side they're on. If they like the weaker partner of the deal, it can be hugely frustrating to see them strung along like this (expect to be yelling WhatAnIdiot fairly loudly). If their sympathies lie with the more powerful half though, it can be used as slapstick humor. If the roles are usually reversed (Bob is Alice's boss, for example) it can be used to give a [[BreakTheHaughty bossy or overbearing character]] their comeuppance.

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The effect on the viewer depends on whose side they're on. If they like the weaker partner of the deal, it can be hugely frustrating to see them strung along like this (expect to be yelling WhatAnIdiot fairly loudly). If their sympathies lie with the more powerful half half, though, it can be used as slapstick humor. If the roles are usually reversed (Bob is Alice's boss, for example) example), it can be used to give a [[BreakTheHaughty bossy or overbearing character]] their comeuppance.



Compare TakingAdvantageOfGenerosity. Can overlap with SocialDarwinism. Contrast SharpshooterFallacy, when the goal posts are moved to favour an argument instead of debunking it.

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Compare TakingAdvantageOfGenerosity. Can overlap with SocialDarwinism. Contrast SharpshooterFallacy, when the goal posts goalposts are moved to favour an argument instead of debunking it.



Sadly, not only TruthInTelevision but a common tactic employed by those running a FourOneNineScam or SpanishPrisoner one.

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Sadly, not only TruthInTelevision TruthInTelevision, but a common tactic employed by those running a FourOneNineScam or SpanishPrisoner one.



* One Outback Steakhouse commercial played with this - the proprietor was offering a free steak to whoever could hit a bullseye on a dartboard. Cue a dozen darts all in that spot. "Wait, did I say bullseye? I meant a triple 20." The last line of the commercial: "Wait, did I say blindfolded?"

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* One Outback Steakhouse commercial played with this - -- the proprietor was offering a free steak to whoever could hit a bullseye on a dartboard. Cue a dozen darts all in that spot. "Wait, did I say bullseye? I meant a triple 20." The last line of the commercial: "Wait, did I say blindfolded?"



* A literal example where Segata Sanshiro, while as a soccer goalie, gets a "nice save" by, well, [[TitleDrop moving the goalpost.]] [[spoiler: He gets a red card for this.]]

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* A literal example where Segata Sanshiro, while as a soccer goalie, gets a "nice save" by, well, [[TitleDrop moving the goalpost.]] [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He gets a red card for this.]]



* The villains in ''Manga/{{Kaiji}}'' like doing this. Congratulations, you just won a ticket worth several million yen! Now you just need to go cash it in at the adjacent building [[spoiler:(which means walking a long, narrow steel beam, suspended hundreds of meters above ground and rigged with traps.)]]
* More than one AssholeVictim in ''Manga/DetectiveConan'' was killed by the person they were subjecting to this. The most infamous case is [[spoiler: the mystery writer Daisuke Torakura.]]

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* The villains in ''Manga/{{Kaiji}}'' like doing this. Congratulations, you just won a ticket worth several million yen! Now you just need to go cash it in at the adjacent building [[spoiler:(which means walking a long, narrow steel beam, suspended hundreds of meters above ground and rigged with traps.)]]
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* More than one AssholeVictim in ''Manga/DetectiveConan'' was killed by the person they were subjecting to this. The most infamous case is [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the mystery writer Daisuke Torakura.]]Torakura]].



* In ''Manga/TheWorldIsStillBeautiful'', Nike's grandmother [[spoiler:offers Livius a deal: find a key she tossed into a swamp to release Nike from her prison and she will let them be together. However, the swamp can be truly dangerous if the weather is really bad with lots of rain. Livius takes all but five seconds to look at the woman who trained Nike to control the weather and use a profane word against her. So, it's not the goal that is moved but the terrain to the goalposts]].

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* In ''Manga/TheWorldIsStillBeautiful'', Nike's grandmother [[spoiler:offers Livius a deal: find a key she tossed into a swamp to release Nike from her prison and she will let them be together. However, the swamp can be truly dangerous if the weather is really bad with lots of rain. Livius takes all but five seconds to look at the woman who trained Nike to control the weather and use a profane word against her. So, it's not the goal that is moved moved, but the terrain to the goalposts]].



** The second major time was during an exam where he first cut in line and bought every one of the new shipment of cards. (Or so he thought.) He then gave those cards to Manjyome, told him to build a stronger deck, and then manipulated the exam placement so Manjyome would duel Judai. It didn't work (Judai had gained an upgraded version of Winged Kuriboh after stopping to help Tome-san) and ''this'' time, not only was ''he'' humiliated, so was Manjyome. It is hinted Samejima got wise to Chronos in this episode, and offered Judai a promotion. (Which he turned down.) Naturally he would [[NeverMyFault blame this entirely on Manjyome later.]]
** Chronos would later foil Judai's attempt to file a request to Kaiser (stating in the dub that such requests had to be done in triplicate with a number 2 pencil; even Judai was suspicious of ''that'' excuse). Ironically, Judai managed to duel Kaiser by asking personally, and while the duel likely had the result Chronos would desire (Kaiser won) Judai won Kaiser's respect, potentially robbing Chronos of the support of the most influential student.

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** The second major time was during an exam where he first cut in line and bought every one of the new shipment of cards. (Or so he thought.) He then gave those cards to Manjyome, told him to build a stronger deck, and then manipulated the exam placement so Manjyome would duel Judai. It didn't work (Judai had gained an upgraded version of Winged Kuriboh after stopping to help Tome-san) and ''this'' time, not only was ''he'' humiliated, so was Manjyome. It is hinted Samejima got wise to Chronos in this episode, and offered Judai a promotion. (Which he turned down.) Naturally Naturally, he would [[NeverMyFault blame this entirely on Manjyome later.]]
** Chronos would later foil Judai's attempt to file a request to Kaiser (stating in the dub that such requests had to be done in triplicate with a number 2 pencil; even Judai was suspicious of ''that'' excuse). Ironically, Judai managed to duel Kaiser by asking personally, and while the duel likely had the result Chronos would desire (Kaiser won) won), Judai won Kaiser's respect, potentially robbing Chronos of the support of the most influential student. student.



* In ''[[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/jacobs/english/fishring.html The Fish and the Ring]]'', ''[[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/russian/russianwondertales/vasiliiunlucky.html Vasilii the Unlucky]]'', ''[[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/29devilgoldhairs.html The Devil With the Three Golden Hairs]]'', Literature/TheKingWhoWouldBeStrongerThanFate, and many other fairy tales, a man who discovers finds his child [[SelfFulfillingProphecy doomed]] to marry a poor child tries to kill them with many tasks, before and after the wedding; in the end, he fails.
* In ''Literature/TheGratefulBeasts'', at the instigation of his brothers, Ferko has to, in turn, cut all the corn in a single night, gather it all into barns the next night, and summon all the wolves in the land. It stops with the wolves because, they're ''wolves''.
* In ''[[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/126ferdinandfaithful.html Ferdinand the Faithful]]'', whenever Ferdinand does whatever the king asks, the king decides it's time to ladle another on him as the price of not executing him. Until finally, [[spoiler:the princess decides she'd rather marry Ferdinand than the king and tricks the king into letting her kill him]].

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* In ''[[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/jacobs/english/fishring.html The Fish and the Ring]]'', ''[[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/russian/russianwondertales/vasiliiunlucky.html Vasilii the Unlucky]]'', ''[[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/29devilgoldhairs.html The Devil With the Three Golden Hairs]]'', Literature/TheKingWhoWouldBeStrongerThanFate, and many other fairy tales, a man who discovers finds his child is [[SelfFulfillingProphecy doomed]] to marry a poor child tries to kill them with many tasks, before and after the wedding; in the end, he fails.
* In ''Literature/TheGratefulBeasts'', at the instigation of his brothers, Ferko has to, in turn, cut all the corn in a single night, gather it all into barns the next night, and summon all the wolves in the land. It stops with the wolves because, well, they're ''wolves''.
* In ''[[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/grimms/126ferdinandfaithful.html Ferdinand the Faithful]]'', whenever Ferdinand does whatever the king asks, the king decides it's time to ladle another task on him as the price of not executing him. Until finally, [[spoiler:the princess decides she'd rather marry Ferdinand than the king and tricks the king into letting her kill him]].



%%* In ''[[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/aulnoy/1892/fairgoldilocks.html Fair Goldilocks]]'', the princess tries to put off a wooer with {{Impossible Task}}s.
%%** As did Princess Kaguya from the Japanese folktale ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Bamboo_Cutter The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter.]]''
* In ''[[http://duress.tripod.com/hansi.htm Hansi and the Nix]]'', a young cowherd named Hansi falls in love with (variously) a [[ElementalEmbodiment water spirit]] or a [[OurMermaidsAreDifferent freshwater mermaid]] he calls "Nixie." But then fall comes, and she doesn't want to come up to the surface of the lake anymore because it's getting too cold. So Hansi agrees to live with her. But then he starts to get homesick for the classic aspects of YodelLand. He misses his dairy cow, and when Nixie brings her to him, he wants to sample the cheese he made from the cow's milk a few months back. When Nixie brings him some of the cheese, Hansi gets wistful for wildflowers. [[spoiler: Nixie responds by bringing his entire village down into the lake.]]

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%%* * In ''[[http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/authors/aulnoy/1892/fairgoldilocks.html Fair Goldilocks]]'', the princess tries to put off a wooer with {{Impossible Task}}s.
%%** ** As did Princess Kaguya from the Japanese folktale ''[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tale_of_the_Bamboo_Cutter The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter.]]''
* In ''[[http://duress.tripod.com/hansi.htm Hansi and the Nix]]'', a young cowherd named Hansi falls in love with (variously) a [[ElementalEmbodiment water spirit]] or a [[OurMermaidsAreDifferent freshwater mermaid]] he calls "Nixie." But then fall comes, and she doesn't want to come up to the surface of the lake anymore because it's getting too cold. So Hansi agrees to live with her. But then he starts to get homesick for the classic aspects of YodelLand. He misses his dairy cow, and when Nixie brings her to him, he wants to sample the cheese he made from the cow's milk a few months back. When Nixie brings him some of the cheese, Hansi gets wistful for wildflowers. [[spoiler: Nixie [[spoiler:Nixie responds by bringing his entire village down into the lake.]]



* In one ''Manga/{{Naruto}}''/''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' story, Neji seems to be doing this, claiming that he'll admit the Gentle Fist is flawed if [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower Ranma]] can beat him. Then if Ranma can beat a given trainer, then another trainer, all the way up to the Clan Head. Tenten however, notes that after the first trainer lost, Neji just kept doing it so he could watch Ranma beat up Main Branch members.

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* In one ''Manga/{{Naruto}}''/''Manga/RanmaOneHalf'' story, Neji seems to be doing this, claiming that he'll admit the Gentle Fist is flawed if [[CharlesAtlasSuperpower Ranma]] can beat him. Then if Ranma can beat a given trainer, then another trainer, all the way up to the Clan Head. Tenten Tenten, however, notes that after the first trainer lost, Neji just kept doing it so he could watch Ranma beat up Main Branch members.



* Subverted in ''Film/OfficeSpace'': Joanna's annoying boss ''attempts'' this, guilting her about wearing the "bare minimum" number of pieces of flair. She never takes the bait, and eventually after a particularly long and insistent chat about this [[RantInducingSlight walks out]].

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* Subverted in ''Film/OfficeSpace'': Joanna's annoying boss ''attempts'' this, guilting her about wearing the "bare minimum" number of pieces of flair. She never takes the bait, and eventually after a particularly long and insistent chat about this this, [[RantInducingSlight walks out]].



* In ''Film/DownPeriscope'', the main characters take part in a military exercise using an old UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo era diesel submarine, the USS ''Stingray'', against the modern US Navy, but keep getting tighter restrictions placed on them by a vindictive admiral when they succeed in spite of the odds. In the end the admiral is called on his behavior by the senior admiral who had arranged for the exercise in the first place. Subverted in that they had higher orders and so completely ignored the new rules.

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* In ''Film/DownPeriscope'', the main characters take part in a military exercise using an old UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo era diesel submarine, the USS ''Stingray'', against the modern US Navy, but keep getting tighter restrictions placed on them by a vindictive admiral when they succeed in spite of the odds. In the end end, the admiral is called on his behavior by the senior admiral who had arranged for the exercise in the first place. Subverted in that they had higher orders and so completely ignored the new rules.



* This is implied to have already happened in the lead-up to [[Creator/ClintEastwood Gunny Highway]] taking over the command of [[RagtagBandOfMisfits Recon Platoon]] in the movie ''Film/HeartbreakRidge''. Specifically, rather than traditional "war games", Recon has been reduced to instigating a very blatant and unsuccessful ambush of the more "elite unit" and be faux-slaughtered horribly. Highway, who has already had several tours of duty (it was his off-duty antics that got him in trouble) knew that the enemy would never be so considerate as to only set up an ambush at a previously agreed upon time and place; so he [[InvertedTrope moved the goalposts back]] and Recon proceeded to annihilate the unprepared "elites".
* ''Film/CoolRunnings'': The Olympic Committee members do this to try to keep Jamaica from qualifying. First, they keep shortening the time requirements. When Jamaica makes the cut anyway, they try to claim that it doesn't count. [[WhatTheHellHero Irv calls them on it big time,]] and they relent. It's implied that it wasn't the Jamaicans who were the problem but Irv himself, whose bobsledding career ended after [[spoiler:he was caught cheating]]. For the record this never happened in RealLife. The Jamaican Bobsledding team was freely welcomed by the committee and the bobsled teams of other countries.

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* This is implied to have already happened in the lead-up to [[Creator/ClintEastwood Gunny Highway]] taking over the command of [[RagtagBandOfMisfits Recon Platoon]] in the movie ''Film/HeartbreakRidge''. Specifically, rather than traditional "war games", Recon has been reduced to instigating a very blatant and unsuccessful ambush of the more "elite unit" and be faux-slaughtered horribly. Highway, who has already had several tours of duty (it was his off-duty antics that got him in trouble) trouble), knew that the enemy would never be so considerate as to only set up an ambush at a previously agreed upon agreed-upon time and place; place, so he [[InvertedTrope moved the goalposts back]] and Recon proceeded to annihilate the unprepared "elites".
* ''Film/CoolRunnings'': The Olympic Committee members do this to try to keep Jamaica from qualifying. First, they keep shortening the time requirements. When Jamaica makes the cut anyway, they try to claim that it doesn't count. [[WhatTheHellHero Irv calls them on it big time,]] and they relent. It's implied that it wasn't the Jamaicans who were the problem problem, but Irv himself, whose bobsledding career ended after [[spoiler:he was caught cheating]]. For the record this never happened in RealLife. The Jamaican Bobsledding team was freely welcomed by the committee and the bobsled teams of other countries.



* ''Literature/ABrothersPrice'' has a non-villain example. [[spoiler: Ren ]] wants to get her mother to withdraw her ParentalMarriageVeto, and accuses her of doing this after [[spoiler: she convinced all her adult sisters of marrying Jerin, and her mother still denies consent on the grounds that the absent Halley, who may or may not be even still alive, hasn't been asked.]]
* Creator/TamoraPierce's ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'' series features the first girl to openly train as a page. The training master, Lord Wyldon, doesn't approve of female knights and puts her on probation. If she can't keep up with the boys, she will be dismissed. The girl, Kel, excels at her training... but rather than lift the probation, Wyldon keeps setting her more and more difficult tasks, sometime moving the goalposts (or at least the archery target/jousting target) in an attempt to dissuade her, while not demanding the same standard of his male trainees. He ends up conceding defeat in the end though, only because Kel is ''that'' good. (At one point he shouts at her for screwing up at jousting, something she normally excelled at - why was she suddenly waving her lance all over the damn place? "I'm terribly sorry, sir, I forgot to ask for a weighted one at the armory. This one's too light.")
** In ''Squire'' he admits that even though she passed every test and [[{{Determinator}} worked uncomplaining through everything he threw at her]], even though she kept going when he thinks most of the boys she was training besides would have quit, he almost didn't let her pass her first, probationary period. His honor made him let her pass, but it was a close thing, and by that point the thought of how close it was shames him.

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* ''Literature/ABrothersPrice'' has a non-villain example. [[spoiler: Ren ]] [[spoiler:Ren]] wants to get her mother to withdraw her ParentalMarriageVeto, and accuses her of doing this after [[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she convinced all her adult sisters of marrying Jerin, and her mother still denies consent on the grounds that the absent Halley, who may or may not be even still alive, hasn't been asked.]]
* Creator/TamoraPierce's ''Literature/ProtectorOfTheSmall'' series features the first girl to openly train as a page. The training master, Lord Wyldon, doesn't approve of female knights and puts her on probation. If she can't keep up with the boys, she will be dismissed. The girl, Kel, excels at her training... but rather than lift the probation, Wyldon keeps setting her more and more difficult tasks, sometime sometimes moving the goalposts (or at least the archery target/jousting target) in an attempt to dissuade her, while not demanding the same standard of his male trainees. He ends up conceding defeat in the end end, though, only because Kel is ''that'' good. (At one point point, he shouts at her for screwing up at jousting, something she normally excelled at - -- why was she suddenly waving her lance all over the damn place? "I'm terribly sorry, sir, I forgot to ask for a weighted one at the armory. This one's too light.")
** In ''Squire'' ''Squire'', he admits that even though she passed every test and [[{{Determinator}} worked uncomplaining through everything he threw at her]], even though she kept going when he thinks most of the boys she was training besides would have quit, he almost didn't let her pass her first, probationary period. His honor made him let her pass, but it was a close thing, and by that point the thought of how close it was shames him.



* In ''Literature/HonorHarrington: Echoes of Honor'', an admiral who didn't care for a new technical development managed to get himself put on charge of the evaluation board, and started putting more and more restrictions on how the weapons could be used in an effort to get a test battle in which the new [=LACs=] would be decisively defeated, and use this to justify scrapping the project. The captain in charge of the final stage of the project retaliated by sending memos to the admirals superiors mentioning her concerns about the test parameters, which would presumably lead to the higher-ups looking at the results of ''all'' the tests, rather than just the one where the [=LACs=] failed, and realizing that they lost because the admiral stacked the deck. This counter was never actually needed, as an attack on the base where the tests were conducted forced the [=LACs=] into actual combat early, in a battle where they decisively defeated the invading fleet.
* The Battle School in ''Literature/EndersGame'' uses this principle. Ender is virtually unbeatable in his war exercises so the administration of the school start stacking the odds against him. Ender's opponents are given such benefits as head-starts to strategically place their troops, partial immunity to Ender's weapons, and eventually are allowed to attack him with vastly superior numbers. Ender starts using technically-legal but unconventional strategies to win, which the administration always makes illegal after every victory. Ender eventually gets so pissed off at the blatant cheating that he starts outright breaking the rules of combat himself, which it turns out was [[HiddenPurposeTest exactly what the administration wanted]]. Most army commanders start resenting Ender for his unending string of victories. Bonzo in particular keeps claiming that the teachers are rigging the game in ''Ender'''s favor. Only an idiot would believe that, given all the advantages the other armies get.

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* In ''Literature/HonorHarrington: Echoes of Honor'', an admiral who didn't care for a new technical development managed to get himself put on in charge of the evaluation board, and started putting more and more restrictions on how the weapons could be used in an effort to get a test battle in which the new [=LACs=] would be decisively defeated, and use this to justify scrapping the project. The captain in charge of the final stage of the project retaliated by sending memos to the admirals admiral's superiors mentioning her concerns about the test parameters, which would presumably lead to the higher-ups looking at the results of ''all'' the tests, rather than just the one where the [=LACs=] failed, and realizing that they lost because the admiral stacked the deck. This counter was never actually needed, as an attack on the base where the tests were conducted forced the [=LACs=] into actual combat early, in a battle where they decisively defeated the invading fleet.
* The Battle School in ''Literature/EndersGame'' uses this principle. Ender is virtually unbeatable in his war exercises exercises, so the administration of the school start stacking the odds against him. Ender's opponents are given such benefits as head-starts to strategically place their troops, partial immunity to Ender's weapons, and eventually are allowed to attack him with vastly superior numbers. Ender starts using technically-legal but unconventional strategies to win, which the administration always makes illegal after every victory. Ender eventually gets so pissed off at the blatant cheating that he starts outright breaking the rules of combat himself, which it turns out was [[HiddenPurposeTest exactly what the administration wanted]]. Most army commanders start resenting Ender for his unending string of victories. Bonzo in particular keeps claiming that the teachers are rigging the game in ''Ender'''s favor. Only an idiot would believe that, given all the advantages the other armies get.



* In Creator/TaylorAnderson's ''Literature/{{Destroyermen}}'', the Empire of New Britain has a long-standing practice of "obligations" applying to women purchased from the Holy Dominion (or to women fleeing the Dominion requesting passage). Ideally, the women work off the cost of the transportation by doing anything requested (surprisingly, non-sexual but involving manual labor) until the obligation is worked off, and the woman is free to marry an Imperial citizen (she herself cannot become a citizen, but her children can). Unfortunately, over the centuries, this has caused all women (both free and those under obligations) to be treated as second-class citizens and gave enormous power to the Honourable New Britain Company that holds these obligations. The titular destroyermen quickly pointed out the obvious LoopholeAbuse - a holder of an obligation may simply move his obligated women from one island to another, constantly increasing their obligations by the cost of the journey (see similar examples in the RealLife section below). Once it's revealed how widespread this practice is, the whole obligation system is abolished. It also helped that the Company executives were selling out the Empire to the Dominion.

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* In Creator/TaylorAnderson's ''Literature/{{Destroyermen}}'', the Empire of New Britain has a long-standing practice of "obligations" applying to women purchased from the Holy Dominion (or to women fleeing the Dominion requesting passage). Ideally, the women work off the cost of the transportation by doing anything requested (surprisingly, non-sexual but involving manual labor) until the obligation is worked off, and the woman is free to marry an Imperial citizen (she herself cannot become a citizen, but her children can). Unfortunately, over the centuries, this has caused all women (both free and those under obligations) to be treated as second-class citizens and gave enormous power to the Honourable New Britain Company that holds these obligations. The titular destroyermen quickly pointed out the obvious LoopholeAbuse - -- a holder of an obligation may simply move his obligated women from one island to another, constantly increasing their obligations by the cost of the journey (see similar examples in the RealLife section below). Once it's revealed how widespread this practice is, the whole obligation system is abolished. It also helped that the Company executives were selling out the Empire to the Dominion.



** Zig-zagged in the original book, with the mid-game rule change that [[spoiler:two tributes can share victory, provided that they are from the same district]], which is then revoked at the last possible moment. This backfires, though, as [[spoiler:Katniss and Peeta will have no part in this chain-jerking and threaten to kill themselves, leaving the Games with ''no'' victor.]] This forces the gamemakers to go back on going back.
** Done again in ''Catching Fire'', where for the Quarter Quell Games they draw their tributes from the pool of victors for previous games. It's normally the case that only people below 18 are eligible, and that if you do win and are under 18 your name is removed from the draw in future. This is viewed as very unfair by many, even within the Capitol. The [[Film/TheHungerGamesCatchingFire film adaptation]] gives one of the tributes the opportunity to explain her perspective on the situation.

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** Zig-zagged in the original book, with the mid-game rule change that [[spoiler:two tributes can share victory, provided that they are from the same district]], which is then revoked at the last possible moment. This backfires, though, as [[spoiler:Katniss and Peeta will have no part in this chain-jerking and threaten to kill themselves, leaving the Games with ''no'' victor.]] victor]]. This forces the gamemakers to go back on going back.
** Done again in ''Catching Fire'', where for the Quarter Quell Games they draw their tributes from the pool of victors for previous games. It's normally the case that only people below 18 are eligible, and that if you do win and are under 18 18, your name is removed from the draw in future. This is viewed as very unfair by many, even within the Capitol. The [[Film/TheHungerGamesCatchingFire film adaptation]] gives one of the tributes the opportunity to explain her perspective on the situation.
28th Apr '17 11:20:58 AM NESBoy
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->'''Darth Vader:''' Calrissian, take the princess and the Wookiee to my ship.
->'''Lando Calrissian:''' You said they'd be left at the city under my supervision.
->'''Vader:''' I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.

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->'''Darth Vader:''' Calrissian, take the princess and the Wookiee to my ship.
->'''Lando
ship.\\
'''Lando
Calrissian:''' You said they'd be left at the city under my supervision.
->'''Vader:'''
supervision.\\
'''Vader:'''
I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.


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* In the ''WesternAnimation/LooneyTunes'' short "Fool Coverage", Daffy Duck is an insurance salesman, and he sells Porky Pig an accident policy which pays him $1,000,000 for a black eye. The catch is that Porky must get a black eye in a ridiculously specific accident, occurring as a result of a stampede of wild elephants in his own living room on the Fourth of July -- of any year -- between the hours of 3:55 and 4 P.M. during a hail storm. Sure enough, as soon as Porky agrees to the policy, he gets into an accident that meets these requirements and gets a black eye from it. As Porky tells Daffy to pay up, Daffy quickly adds that the policy actually specifies a stampede of wild elephants ''and'' one baby zebra, making the AsideComment, "I just added that one." [[TemptingFate Then a baby zebra runs in.]]
25th Apr '17 8:32:24 PM Josef5678
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* In TheCrown2016, the royal handlers don't approve of Margaret's intention to marry Peter (who's both a commoner and divorced), but they don't want a direct confrontation either. They point out that, if she waits until she's 25, she can get married without the queen's consent, avoiding any troublesome legal issues. When she reaches the proper age and still wants to marry, they inform her that turning 25 only allows her to ''apply'' for the right to get married, but she still needs parliamentary approval.

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* In TheCrown2016, ''{{Series/The Crown|2016}}'', the royal handlers don't approve of Margaret's intention to marry Peter (who's both a commoner and divorced), but they don't want a direct confrontation either. They point out that, if she waits until she's 25, she can get married without the queen's consent, avoiding any troublesome legal issues. When she reaches the proper age and still wants to marry, they inform her that turning 25 only allows her to ''apply'' for the right to get married, but she still needs parliamentary approval.
25th Apr '17 1:20:31 PM Maddoxsort
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* This is exactly what Creator/StevenMoffat did with the Doctor's [[TheNthDoctor twelve-regeneration limit]] in 2013 when he had to deal with the fact that the Doctor had used up the entire set. The limit was introduced in "The Deadly Assassin" as a major plot point, but it effectively backed future writers into a corner because it meant the Doctor was subject to this regeneration cap, and thanks to a slew of actors who didn't hold tenures as the Doctor for very long on TV due to either personal reasons that urged them to pass the torch or having their runs CutShort, and a couple of major plot twists that accelerated the time table two whole regenerations, it fast-forwarded the Doctor to the end of his limit. He stated verbatim in an interview that it was easier to "move the goalposts"- rather than have the Doctor outright [[OutOfContinues die]] (an idea which was played with all throughout the tenure of Creator/MattSmith, whose Doctor did not have enough regeneration energy left in the tank to make it to his next incarnation). Fittingly, the Doctor got blessed with a new regeneration cycle as a reward from the Time Lords and went past the limit with another set of twelve regenerations to burn through.

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* ''Series/DoctorWho'' needed one in Series 7 of its modern era. This is exactly what Creator/StevenMoffat did with the Doctor's [[TheNthDoctor twelve-regeneration limit]] in 2013 when he had to deal with the fact that the Doctor had used up the entire set. The limit was introduced in "The Deadly Assassin" as a major plot point, but it effectively backed future writers into a corner because it meant the Doctor was subject to this regeneration cap, and thanks to a slew of actors who didn't hold tenures as the Doctor for very long on TV due to either personal reasons that urged them to pass the torch or having their runs CutShort, and a couple of major plot twists that accelerated the time table two whole regenerations, it fast-forwarded the Doctor to the end of his limit. He stated verbatim in an interview that it was easier to "move the goalposts"- rather than have the Doctor outright [[OutOfContinues die]] (an idea which was played with all throughout the tenure of Creator/MattSmith, whose Doctor did not have enough regeneration energy left in the tank to make it to his next incarnation). Fittingly, the Doctor got blessed with a new regeneration cycle as a reward from the Time Lords and went past the limit with another set of twelve regenerations to burn through.
25th Apr '17 1:10:15 PM Maddoxsort
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* This is exactly what Creator/StevenMoffat did with the Doctor's [[TheNthDoctor twelve-regeneration limit]] in 2013 when he had to deal with the fact that the Doctor had used up the entire set. The limit was introduced in "The Deadly Assassin" as a major plot point, but it effectively backed future writers into a corner because it meant the Doctor was subject to this regeneration cap, and thanks to a slew of actors who didn't hold tenures as the Doctor for very long on TV due to either personal reasons that urged them to pass the torch or having their runs CutShort, and a couple of major plot twists that accelerated the time table two whole regenerations, it fast-forwarded the Doctor to the end of his limit. He stated verbatim in an interview that rather than have the Doctor outright [[OutOfContinues die]] (an idea which was played with all throughout the tenure of Creator/MattSmith, it was easier to "move the goalposts". Fittingly, the Doctor got blessed with a new regeneration cycle as a reward from the Time Lords and went past the limit with another set of twelve regenerations to burn through.

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* This is exactly what Creator/StevenMoffat did with the Doctor's [[TheNthDoctor twelve-regeneration limit]] in 2013 when he had to deal with the fact that the Doctor had used up the entire set. The limit was introduced in "The Deadly Assassin" as a major plot point, but it effectively backed future writers into a corner because it meant the Doctor was subject to this regeneration cap, and thanks to a slew of actors who didn't hold tenures as the Doctor for very long on TV due to either personal reasons that urged them to pass the torch or having their runs CutShort, and a couple of major plot twists that accelerated the time table two whole regenerations, it fast-forwarded the Doctor to the end of his limit. He stated verbatim in an interview that it was easier to "move the goalposts"- rather than have the Doctor outright [[OutOfContinues die]] (an idea which was played with all throughout the tenure of Creator/MattSmith, it was easier to "move whose Doctor did not have enough regeneration energy left in the goalposts".tank to make it to his next incarnation). Fittingly, the Doctor got blessed with a new regeneration cycle as a reward from the Time Lords and went past the limit with another set of twelve regenerations to burn through.
25th Apr '17 1:07:45 PM Maddoxsort
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* This is exactly what Creator/StevenMoffat did with the Doctor's [[TheNthDoctor twelve-regeneration limit]] in 2013 when he had to deal with the fact that the Doctor had used up the entire set. The limit was introduced in "The Deadly Assassin" as a major plot point, but it effectively backed future writers into a corner because it meant the Doctor was subject to this regeneration cap, and thanks to a slew of actors who didn't hold tenures as the Doctor for very long on TV due to either personal reasons that urged them to pass the torch or having their runs CutShort, and a couple of major plot twists that accelerated the time table two whole regenerations, it fast-forwarded the Doctor to the end of his limit. He stated verbatim in an interview that rather than have the Doctor outright [[OutOfContinues die]] (an idea which was played with all throughout the tenure of Creator/MattSmith, it was easier to "move the goalposts". Fittingly, the Doctor got blessed with a new regeneration cycle as a reward from the Time Lords and went past the limit with another set of twelve regenerations to burn through.
25th Apr '17 8:52:49 AM tromag
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* In TheCrown2016, the royal handlers don't approve of Margaret's intention to marry Peter (who's both a commoner and divorced), but they don't want a direct confrontation either. They point out that, if she waits until she's 25, she can get married without the queen's consent, avoiding any troublesome legal issues. When she reaches the proper age and still wants to marry, they inform her that turning 25 only allows her to ''apply'' for the right to get married, but she still needs parliamentary approval.
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