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16th Apr '18 10:49:17 AM DreadPirate7
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* Proof once again that TropesAreNotBad, Motive Decay is both PlayedForDrama and PlayedForHorror in the ending of ''Literature/{{Worm}}''. The first of the two most important is [[spoiler:BigBad [[PhysicalGod Scion]]]], who has mostly given up on the [[spoiler:cycle of his species]] and entirely given up on trying to find an emotional payoff in selflessly helping others. Instead, he decides to find that emotional payoff in the simplest way available to him: [[spoiler:killing, maiming, and later torturing on a ''multiversal'' scale]] to revel in the chaos buried in the human psyche. The second is Khepri, and we get to watch [[spoiler:from inside her head]] as she slowly loses everything that made her heroic, all of her identity, and finally her humanity after she [[spoiler:unfettered her shard in a desperate gamble to gain an advantage against Scion]]. Her GoalInLife goes from saving [[spoiler:humanity throughout the multiverse]] to forcing everybody to cooperate, and finally at the end of it all, when she has lost the ability to comprehend the world except through aggression, to a desire to systematically kill every other being [[in the multiverse]] to eliminate their threat to her so she can have peace.

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* Proof once again that TropesAreNotBad, Motive Decay is both PlayedForDrama and PlayedForHorror in the ending of ''Literature/{{Worm}}''. The first of the two most important is [[spoiler:BigBad [[PhysicalGod Scion]]]], who has mostly given up on the [[spoiler:cycle of his species]] and entirely given up on trying to find an emotional payoff in selflessly helping others. Instead, he decides to find that emotional payoff in the simplest way available to him: [[spoiler:killing, maiming, and later torturing on a ''multiversal'' scale]] to revel in the chaos buried in the human psyche. The second is Khepri, and we get to watch [[spoiler:from inside her head]] as she slowly loses everything that made her heroic, all of her identity, and finally her humanity after she [[spoiler:unfettered her shard in a desperate gamble to gain an advantage against Scion]]. Her GoalInLife goes from saving [[spoiler:humanity throughout the multiverse]] to forcing everybody to cooperate, and finally at the end of it all, when she has lost the ability to comprehend the world except through aggression, to a desire to systematically kill every other being [[in [[spoiler:in the multiverse]] to eliminate their threat to her so she can have peace.
16th Apr '18 10:45:55 AM DreadPirate7
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* Proof once again that TropesAreNotBad, Motive Decay is both PlayedForDrama and PlayedForHorror in the ending of ''Literature/{{Worm}}''. The first of the two most important is [[spoiler:BigBad [[PhysicalGod Scion]]]], who has mostly given up on the [[spoiler:cycle of his species]] and entirely given up on trying to find an emotional payoff in selflessly helping others. Instead, he decides to find that emotional payoff in the simplest way available to him: [[spoiler:killing, maiming, and later torturing on a ''multiversal'' scale]] to revel in the chaos buried in the human psyche. The second is Khepri, and we get to watch [[spoiler:from inside her head]] as she slowly loses everything that made her heroic, all of her identity, and finally her humanity after she [[spoiler:unfettered her shard in a desperate gamble to gain an advantage against Scion]]. Her GoalInLife goes from saving [[spoiler:humanity throughout the multiverse]] to forcing everybody to cooperate, and finally at the end of it all, when she has lost the ability to comprehend the world except through aggression, to a desire to systematically kill every other being [[in the multiverse]] to eliminate their threat to her so she can have peace.
25th Feb '18 11:56:49 AM SteelEdge
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* An example in [[http://liliy.net/wam/2009/05/31/dragons-are-easy/ this comic]] from ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfWiglafAndMordred'', except the evil one is the one who was attacked, not the attacker.

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* An example in [[http://liliy.net/wam/2009/05/31/dragons-are-easy/ this comic]] from ''Webcomic/TheAdventuresOfWiglafAndMordred'', except the evil one is the one who was attacked, not the attacker. Gawain, the attacker, genuinely forgot why he was attacking Arthur in the first place because he is a zombie with a HealingFactor, and while shooting him in the head won't kill him, he [[JustifiedTrope loses and regains random pieces of memory every time]]. Even though he couldn't remember his original reason, he figured that revenge for being shot in the head so many times was still a decent reason.
16th Feb '18 8:39:08 PM Pamina
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSwanPrincess'': The villainous Rothbart's initial goal is to take over King William's kingdom. He kills William, then kidnaps his daughter Odette, turns her into a swan, and will only set her free if she agrees to marry him, making him legally the next king. So far so good. But when he learns that her true love Prince Derek (the only one besides himself who can break the spell, with a vow of everlasting love) has found her, he resolves to kill them both. It never seems to cross his mind that killing Odette will ruin his plan to legally claim her father's throne.
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8th Feb '18 2:28:21 PM margdean56
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This is often someone who starts out with a specific goal, as a WellIntentionedExtremist or someone out for [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge revenge against the perpetrators]] of a particular wrong (real or imagined), or someone who is driven to actions by unfortunate circumstances. This can make a very deep and often tragic character, but it's hard for the writers to keep it up, especially in a long-running franchise. Perhaps the author simply has trouble following through on their original idea, [[PlotTumor other parts of the story got more important]], or the creator [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants was making up as they went]]. Perhaps later writers who come on in the middle of a work's run just don't "get" it. Sometimes the writer is trying to give some kind of {{Aesop}} that because their original motive was grey, this leads to [[BlackAndWhiteMorality monochrome]] quickly. [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope Too quickly.]] On the other hand, it sometimes is intentional. The character may very well have lost track of what they were fighting for and kept going on in spite of this because [[IveComeTooFar they have nothing else left]].

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This is often someone who starts out with a specific goal, as a WellIntentionedExtremist or someone out for [[RoaringRampageOfRevenge revenge against the perpetrators]] of a particular wrong (real or imagined), or someone who is driven to actions by unfortunate circumstances. This can make a very deep and often tragic character, but it's hard for the writers to keep it up, especially in a long-running franchise. Perhaps the author simply has trouble following through on their original idea, [[PlotTumor other parts of the story got more important]], or the creator [[WritingByTheSeatOfYourPants was making it up as they went]].went along]]. Perhaps later writers who come on in the middle of a work's run just don't "get" it. Sometimes the writer is trying to give some kind of {{Aesop}} that because their original motive was grey, this leads to [[BlackAndWhiteMorality monochrome]] quickly. [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope Too quickly.]] On the other hand, it sometimes is intentional. The character may very well have lost track of what they were fighting for and kept going on in spite of this because [[IveComeTooFar they have nothing else left]].
17th Jan '18 12:42:41 PM CountDorku
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* Heroes in ''TabletopGame/BeastThePrimordial'' originated as a sort of balancing tool for the Primordial Dream: their job was to keep Beasts in check. Modern ones have largely, although not universally, degenerated into callous narcissists interested solely in killing Beasts for glory.
23rd Dec '17 4:12:07 PM nombretomado
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* [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Artemis]] in the book ''Acheron'', one of the most recent books in Sherrilyn Kenyon's ''[[TheDarkHunters Dark Hunter]]'' series starts out as a friendly and curious goddess at the beginning of the book. At the end, you just want to smack her for her [[JerkassGod unadulterated meanie]] abilities.

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* [[Myth/ClassicalMythology Artemis]] in the book ''Acheron'', one of the most recent books in Sherrilyn Kenyon's ''[[TheDarkHunters ''[[Literature/TheDarkHunters Dark Hunter]]'' series starts out as a friendly and curious goddess at the beginning of the book. At the end, you just want to smack her for her [[JerkassGod unadulterated meanie]] abilities.
3rd Dec '17 5:35:47 PM Prometheus117
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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', the White Fang started out as an organization seeking better treatment of the Faunus race. However, when the old leadership gave way for new ones, the CycleOfRevenge decided that peace wasn't worth it and decided to go wreck shit, especially if its human-made and especially if it involves the Schnee Dust Company

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* In ''WebAnimation/{{RWBY}}'', the White Fang started out as an organization seeking better treatment of the Faunus race. However, when race through peaceful protests. Then the old leadership gave way for to new ones, who decided that they'd use violence to force humans to give them the CycleOfRevenge equality they felt they deserved. Then ''they'' got replaced by newer ones, who decided that peace and equality wasn't worth it and decided to go wreck shit, especially if its it's human-made and especially if it involves the Schnee Dust CompanyCompany, in order to reign supreme over humanity.
20th Oct '17 10:08:18 PM Discar
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->''"I used to have goals. They were evil goals, but they were goals"''

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->''"I used to have goals. They were evil goals, but they were goals"''goals."''
24th Jun '17 8:28:09 PM Discar
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-->-- '''Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz''', after another defeat by Perry. ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb''

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-->-- '''Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz''', after another defeat by Perry. Perry, ''WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb''
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