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17th May '16 12:41:00 PM GlassRain
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** Xykon, as a lich, has a level adjustment of four, although it doesn't seem to impede him nearly as much as the one above despite being into epic levels even before the adjustment is calculated. As the primary villain of the comic he may benefit from accelerated xp growth to keep him outmatching the heroes though.

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** Xykon, as a lich, has a level adjustment of four, although it doesn't seem to impede him nearly as much as the one above despite being into epic levels even before the adjustment is calculated. As the primary villain of the comic he may benefit from accelerated xp XP growth to keep him outmatching the heroes though.


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* ''Webcomic/AwfulHospital'': Everyone who joins up with Fern as companions.
13th Mar '16 12:26:44 PM Troscus
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** The Dragonborn can take this trope to rediculous levels. S/he can be a cat/lizard man who can transform into a daedric (read: demonic) created vampire/werewolf.
21st Jan '16 12:40:31 PM narm00
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* MarvelComics' series ''ComicBook/NickFury's ComicBook/HowlingCommandos'' (not the one set in WWII). Starring the likes of Warwolf, N'Kantu the Living Mummy, Frankenstein (a clone of the original Frankenstein's monster), Gorilla-Man, and a zombie named John Doe.
* Along similar lines and years earlier, DCComics' Creature Commandos. Unlike the Howling Commandos, who were taken from a pool of supernatural creatures known to SHIELD, the original Creature Commandos were all normal humans at one point, deliberately transformed into monsters by scientific means for the purposes of psychological warfare.
* Comicbook/DungeonMonstres #1 gives us the merry band of Juan-Juan (A Bogeyman fighter), Darmfloor (An Undead magician), Wilfried (An Elephant [[MultiClass barbarian-monk]]), Yomanda (An Ochtone with no discernible class) and... [[TravelingSalesman Willem van Dattum]] (An evil salesman who bears the Sword of Destiny at the time).

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* MarvelComics' Creator/MarvelComics' series ''ComicBook/NickFury's ComicBook/HowlingCommandos'' (not the one set in WWII). Starring the likes of Warwolf, N'Kantu the Living Mummy, Frankenstein (a clone of the original Frankenstein's monster), Gorilla-Man, and a zombie named John Doe.
* Along similar lines and years earlier, DCComics' Creator/DCComics' Creature Commandos. Unlike the Howling Commandos, who were taken from a pool of supernatural creatures known to SHIELD, the original Creature Commandos were all normal humans at one point, deliberately transformed into monsters by scientific means for the purposes of psychological warfare.
* Comicbook/DungeonMonstres #1 gives us the merry band of Juan-Juan (A Bogeyman fighter), Darmfloor (An Undead magician), Wilfried (An Elephant [[MultiClass barbarian-monk]]), barbarian-monk), Yomanda (An Ochtone with no discernible class) and... [[TravelingSalesman Willem van Dattum]] (An evil salesman who bears the Sword of Destiny at the time).



* The ''WarOfTheSpiderQueen'' series is mostly about a bunch of drow on a quest to find out why their boss doesn't answer calls. They even took a Draegloth with them, and later sort of picked up [[spoiler:an Alu-fiend]]. Of course, unlike Salvatore's most famous Drow protagonist, [[VillainProtagonist they're all evil]].

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* The ''WarOfTheSpiderQueen'' ''Literature/WarOfTheSpiderQueen'' series is mostly about a bunch of drow on a quest to find out why their boss doesn't answer calls. They even took a Draegloth with them, and later sort of picked up [[spoiler:an Alu-fiend]]. Of course, unlike Salvatore's most famous Drow protagonist, [[VillainProtagonist they're all evil]].



* ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' overtly tries to avert this trope, emphasizing the AlwaysChaoticEvil nature of its monsters, but at the same time includes a wide variety of monster races, complete with rules for playing them in the ''Monster Manual'' Unlike its ancestor, ''D&D'', it does emphasize that more levels will ultimately outweigh the front-loaded initial benefits of monster-hood, and recommends slowly moving the player's level into sync with the rest of the party's over time.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' overtly tries to avert this trope, emphasizing the AlwaysChaoticEvil nature of its monsters, but at the same time includes a wide variety of monster races, complete with rules for playing them in the ''Monster Manual'' Manual''. Unlike its ancestor, ''D&D'', it does emphasize that more levels will ultimately outweigh the front-loaded initial benefits of monster-hood, and recommends slowly moving the player's level into sync with the rest of the party's over time.
23rd Nov '15 7:29:23 AM ClearMadness
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* ''TheIronTeeth'' web serial features Blacknail the goblin as its protagonist. He is a goblin who is part of a group of human bandits. Together they attempt to survive in the hostile frontier of the Iron Teeth mountains.

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* ''TheIronTeeth'' ''Literature/TheIronTeeth'' web serial features Blacknail the goblin as its protagonist. He is a goblin who is part of a group of human bandits. Together they attempt to survive in the hostile frontier of the Iron Teeth mountains.
23rd Nov '15 7:27:05 AM ClearMadness
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* ''TheIronTeeth'' web serial features Blacknail the goblin as its protagonist. He is a goblin who is part of a group of human bandits. Together they attempt to survive in the hostile frontier of the Iron Teeth mountains.
10th Sep '15 6:56:10 PM nombretomado
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* MarvelComics' series ''NickFury's Howling Commandos'' (not the one set in WWII). Starring the likes of Warwolf, N'Kantu the Living Mummy, Frankenstein (a clone of the original Frankenstein's monster), Gorilla-Man, and a zombie named John Doe.

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* MarvelComics' series ''NickFury's Howling Commandos'' ''ComicBook/NickFury's ComicBook/HowlingCommandos'' (not the one set in WWII). Starring the likes of Warwolf, N'Kantu the Living Mummy, Frankenstein (a clone of the original Frankenstein's monster), Gorilla-Man, and a zombie named John Doe.
4th Jul '15 2:44:15 PM nombretomado
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* Drizzt Do'Urden of the ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms [[TheLegendOfDrizzt Legend of Drizzt]]'' books. His father Zaknafein might have become one, had he not fallen prey to MentorOccupationalHazard.

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* Drizzt Do'Urden of the ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms [[TheLegendOfDrizzt [[Literature/TheLegendOfDrizzt Legend of Drizzt]]'' books. His father Zaknafein might have become one, had he not fallen prey to MentorOccupationalHazard.
14th May '15 7:17:15 PM nemotunovi
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** The 3e DnD book Enemies and Allies (containing ready-to-use {{NPC}}s for various occasions) contained such a group of adventurers: a troll fighter (full plate but fights with claws), an ettercap cleric (rather smart for an ettercap but Int isn't his casting stat anyway), a pseudodragon sorcerer (ditto), a phase spider rogue (who needs lockpicks when you can pass through walls?), and an umber hulk monk (who fights [[BlindfoldedVision blindfolded, purely by tremorsense]], to protect his teammates from his [[EyeBeams gaze]]). A RagtagBunchOfMisfits if ever there was one, but rather friendly if you don't attack right away.

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** The 3e DnD D&D book Enemies and Allies (containing ready-to-use {{NPC}}s for various occasions) contained such a group of adventurers: a troll fighter (full plate but fights with claws), an ettercap cleric (rather smart for an ettercap but Int isn't his casting stat anyway), a pseudodragon sorcerer (ditto), a phase spider rogue (who needs lockpicks when you can pass through walls?), and an umber hulk monk (who fights [[BlindfoldedVision blindfolded, purely by tremorsense]], to protect his teammates from his [[EyeBeams gaze]]). A RagtagBunchOfMisfits if ever there was one, but rather friendly if you don't attack right away.
14th May '15 7:16:31 PM nemotunovi
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** One D&D book (containing ready-to-use {{NPC}}s for various occasions) contained such a group of adventurers: a troll fighter (full plate but fights with claws), an ettercap cleric (rather smart for an ettercap but Int isn't his casting stat anyway), a pseudodragon sorcerer (ditto), a phase spider rogue (who needs lockpicks when you can pass through walls?), and an umber hulk monk (who fights [[BlindfoldedVision blindfolded, purely by tremorsense]], to protect his teammates from his [[EyeBeams gaze]]). A RagtagBunchOfMisfits if ever there was one, but rather friendly if you don't attack right away.

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** One D&D The 3e DnD book Enemies and Allies (containing ready-to-use {{NPC}}s for various occasions) contained such a group of adventurers: a troll fighter (full plate but fights with claws), an ettercap cleric (rather smart for an ettercap but Int isn't his casting stat anyway), a pseudodragon sorcerer (ditto), a phase spider rogue (who needs lockpicks when you can pass through walls?), and an umber hulk monk (who fights [[BlindfoldedVision blindfolded, purely by tremorsense]], to protect his teammates from his [[EyeBeams gaze]]). A RagtagBunchOfMisfits if ever there was one, but rather friendly if you don't attack right away.
20th Mar '15 12:34:05 PM SpectralTime
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** In ''D&D3'' this became a routine procedure. As mentioned in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' example, there are rules for monster [=NPC=]s, but most of the monster races aren't really that good as player characters. The reason for that is ''level adjustment''. It means that to pay for the increased power of, say, being able to eat your opponents' brains and mindblast them, some of your levels don't actually count for the character's advancement, meaning you're perpetually between 2 (drow) and 6 (mindflayer) levels behind every other player character. While the abilities you gain are pretty cool, they're often no match for the increased HitPoints and ''especially'' spellcasting power actual levels would give you.

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** In ''D&D3'' this became a routine procedure. As mentioned in ''Webcomic/TheOrderOfTheStick'' example, there are rules for monster [=NPC=]s, but most of the monster races aren't really that good as player characters. The reason for that is ''level adjustment''. It means that to pay for the increased power of, say, being able to eat your opponents' brains and mindblast them, some of your levels don't actually count for the character's advancement, meaning you're perpetually between 2 (drow) and 6 (mindflayer) levels behind every other player character. While the abilities you gain are pretty cool, they're often no match for the increased HitPoints and ''especially'' spellcasting power actual levels would give you.



* ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' overtly tries to avert this trope, emphasizing the AlwaysChaoticEvil nature of its monsters, but at the same time includes a wide variety of monster races, and much more balanced than those in its ancestor, D&D.

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* ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'' overtly tries to avert this trope, emphasizing the AlwaysChaoticEvil nature of its monsters, but at the same time includes a wide variety of monster races, and much more balanced than those complete with rules for playing them in the ''Monster Manual'' Unlike its ancestor, D&D.''D&D'', it does emphasize that more levels will ultimately outweigh the front-loaded initial benefits of monster-hood, and recommends slowly moving the player's level into sync with the rest of the party's over time.
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