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21st May '18 7:56:28 AM RYjet911
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* In his first appearance in ''Series/JessicaJones2015'', his own series ''Series/LukeCage2016'' and follow-up show ''Series/TheDefenders2017'', Luke is often portrayed as this in fight scenes, rarely seen even so much as jogging toward his enemies. Instead he'll often take a slow, heavy, looming gait as he approaches his foe, tanking a hail of bullets like a gentle breeze, before proceding to launch them through the air with a single heavy punch or simple toss. Jessica is generally much more lithe and scrappy, and in The Defenders he's also contrasted against the lightning fast, highly skilled [[Series/Daredevil2015 Daredevil]] and supernaturally powered [[Series/IronFist2017 Iron Fist.]] Though it's more downplayed in his own series, as the lack of comparison supers leaves it up to him to do most of the fast moving.

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* In his first appearance in ''Series/JessicaJones2015'', his own series ''Series/LukeCage2016'' and follow-up show ''Series/TheDefenders2017'', Luke is often portrayed as this in fight scenes, rarely seen even so much as jogging toward his enemies. Instead he'll often take a slow, heavy, looming gait as he approaches his foe, tanking a hail of bullets against his bulletproof skin like a gentle breeze, before proceding to launch them through the air with a single heavy punch or simple toss. Jessica is generally much more lithe and scrappy, and in The Defenders he's also contrasted against the lightning fast, highly skilled [[Series/Daredevil2015 Daredevil]] and supernaturally powered [[Series/IronFist2017 Iron Fist.]] Though it's more downplayed in his own series, as the lack of comparison supers leaves it up to him to do most of the fast moving.
21st May '18 7:55:50 AM RYjet911
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* In his first appearance in ''Series/JessicaJones2015'', his own series ''Series/LukeCage2016'' and follow-up show ''Series/TheDefenders2017'', Luke is often portrayed as this in fight scenes, rarely seen even so much as jogging toward his enemies. Instead he'll often take a slow, heavy, looming gait as he approaches his foe, tanking a hail of bullets like a gentle breeze, before proceding to launch them through the air with a single heavy punch or simple toss. Jessica is generally much more lithe and scrappy, and in The Defenders he's also contrasted against the lightning fast, highly skilled [[Series/Daredevil2015 Daredevil]] and supernaturally powered [[Series/IronFist2017 Iron Fist.]] Though it's more downplayed in his own series, as the lack of comparison supers leaves it up to him to do most of the fast moving.
30th Apr '18 8:24:41 PM patriciovalencia117
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** Although the American army relied more on nimble turreted tank destroyers, they did contemplate on building assault vehicles similar to those of the German army. Their finest example was the experimental T28/T95 superheavy tank, which was designed for assaulting the heavily fortified walls and bunkers guarding the Axis homelands. Its frontal armor has a thickness of 305 mm (literally a ''foot'' thick), its gun had a caliber of 105 mm, and noted to be particularly effective against concrete and its max speed is only 13 km/h (8 mph). The T28/T95 was essentially a steel bunker on treads. However, the Army ultimately passed up on the T28/95, viewing it as [[AwesomeButImpractical unusable in combat]] as the heavy weight limited movement across terrain and couldn't arrive in time for combat. Also, the war ended before it was ready to be deployed and afterword there wasn't a point to having such a massive, slow vehicle.

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** Although the American army relied more on nimble turreted tank destroyers, they did contemplate on building assault vehicles similar to those of the German army. Their finest example was the experimental T28/T95 superheavy tank, which was designed for assaulting the heavily fortified walls and bunkers guarding the Axis homelands. Its frontal armor has a thickness of 305 mm (literally a ''foot'' thick), its gun had a caliber of 105 mm, mm and noted to be particularly effective against concrete capable of punching through solid concrete, and its max speed is only 13 km/h (8 mph). The T28/T95 was essentially a steel bunker on treads. However, the Army ultimately passed up on the T28/95, viewing it as [[AwesomeButImpractical unusable in combat]] as the heavy weight limited movement across terrain and couldn't arrive in time for combat. Also, the war ended before it was ready to be deployed and afterword there wasn't a point to having such a massive, slow vehicle.
1st Apr '18 1:55:47 AM DilanduAlbato
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** While Soviet ISU-152 and SU-152 self-propelled howitzers weren't decidated tank destroyer (more like siege tanks, because their main role was to provide heavy artillery support and destroy fortifications), their 48-kg AP shells worked extremely well against basically every armor Germany possessed. And their heavy sloped armor made them pretty tough, too. The decidated ISU-122 tank destroyers with long-barreled 122-mm guns fit too.
14th Mar '18 5:41:18 PM Lopiny
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** Big Mom, if one doesn't consider her three main Homies (chunks of her soul acting as powerful servants) as part of her. Reaction times aren't quite as lightning-fast as most to be found that far into the New World, and her speed, while not exactly slow, isn't gonna let her pull a FlashStep on anyone else. But she doesn't ''need'' to dodge, because she shrugs everything off like an "iron balloon", and her direct offense is such that if you so much as let her ''touch'' you, you're either pulverized, EatenAlive or [[YourSoulIsMine got your soul torn off]]. A rampaging Big Mom is TheJuggernaut, and no one even pretends they can fight her off, but don't have too many difficulties simply running away.
1st Mar '18 8:52:58 AM HighCrate
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** Cell himself briefly attempts something similar to Super Saiyan 1 3rd Grade when he panics due to [[LightningBruiser Super Saiyan 2 Gohan]] dominating him-and, having been slowed down, gets beat up up bad that he literally ''vomits Android 18'' and regresses to his Semi-Perfect form. Later, after achieving the Super Perfect Form, he does it again... [[GenreSavvy And as he used it in a]] BeamOWar where only power mattered, it ''almost'' worked.

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** Cell himself briefly attempts something similar to Super Saiyan 1 3rd Grade when he panics due to [[LightningBruiser Super Saiyan 2 Gohan]] dominating him-and, having been slowed down, gets beat up up bad that he literally ''vomits Android 18'' and regresses to his Semi-Perfect form. Later, after achieving the Super Perfect Form, he does it again... [[GenreSavvy And as he used it in a]] a BeamOWar where only power mattered, it ''almost'' worked.
1st Mar '18 3:07:47 AM EDP
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* Using the the 3rd Grade of Super Saiyan 1 can have this effect in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. They're still fast compared to almost anyone else, but the bulky muscles make it tougher for them to keep up with someone on the same level. Both Goku and Vegeta spotted this flaw while training (Goku worked around it with a more efficient way to power up the Super Saiyan form, and Vegeta stuck with the intermediate step that bulked him up a little bit, but not enough to slow him down until he learned Goku's solution), but Future Trunks only caught on after getting his butt kicked by Cell, who stresses the important difference between a Mighty Glacier and a LightningBruiser. Gohan sidestepped it entirely by being trained by Goku in his solution and then being the first to achieve Super Saiyan 2.
** Cell himself briefly attempts something similar to Super Saiyan 1 3rd Grade when he panics due to [[LightningBruiser Super Saiyan 2 Gohan]] dominating him. [[GenreSavvy As he used it in a]] BeamOWar, it ''almost'' worked.

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* Using the ''Anime/DragonBallZ'' examples:
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the 3rd Grade of Super Saiyan 1 can have this effect (or Ultra Super Saiyan) in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. They're still fast a nutshell: increasing the muscle mass to the point they hit stronger that even a Super Saiyan 2 (both with fists and ki), but in exchange the sheer added bulk makes them slower compared to almost anyone else, but the bulky muscles make it tougher for them to keep up with someone on that much power, in addition to the same level. Both increased ki consumption. Goku and Vegeta spotted this flaw while training (Goku and worked around it with a more efficient way to power up the Super Saiyan form, and Vegeta stuck with the intermediate step that bulked him up a little bit, but not enough to slow him down until he learned Goku's solution), but Future Trunks found out the hard way only caught on after getting his butt kicked by Cell, who stresses the important difference between a Mighty Glacier and a LightningBruiser.LightningBruiser and muses that Vegeta too could have done it but spotted the flaw and stuck to the 2nd Grade (that bulked him up to the exact limit necessary to increase both strength ''and'' speed) until he managed to teach himself Goku's solution (that offered better power than the 2nd Grade to boot). Gohan sidestepped it entirely by being trained by Goku in his solution and then being the first to achieve Super Saiyan 2.
** Cell himself briefly attempts something similar to Super Saiyan 1 3rd Grade when he panics due to [[LightningBruiser Super Saiyan 2 Gohan]] dominating him. him-and, having been slowed down, gets beat up up bad that he literally ''vomits Android 18'' and regresses to his Semi-Perfect form. Later, after achieving the Super Perfect Form, he does it again... [[GenreSavvy As And as he used it in a]] BeamOWar, BeamOWar where only power mattered, it ''almost'' worked.
21st Feb '18 1:29:44 PM EDP
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* In ''Series/BabylonFive'' Earth Alliance ships are this: knowing their relatively primitive thruster technology early on only allowed them to build slow ships, they just put as much armor as they could (helped by the [[ShootTheBullet Interceptors]]) and ''loads'' of weapons, and even when technological advances would have allowed for faster ships they kept building them slow to not renounce to the heavy armor or weapons until they developed ArtificialGravity.
21st Feb '18 1:10:56 PM EDP
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* Using the the 3rd Grade of Super Saiyan 1 can have this effect in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. They're still fast compared to almost anyone else, but the bulky muscles make it tougher for them to keep up with someone on the same level. Both Goku and Vegeta spotted this flaw while training (Goku worked around it with a more efficient way to power up the Super Saiyan form, and Vegeta went with an intermediate step that bulked him up a little bit, but not enough to slow him down), but Future Trunks only caught on after getting his butt kicked by Cell, who stresses the important difference between a Mighty Glacier and a LightningBruiser. Gohan sidestepped it entirely by being the first to achieve Super Saiyan 2.
** Cell himself briefly attempts something similar to Super Saiyan 1 3rd Grade when he panics due to [[LightningBruiser Super Saiyan 2 Gohan]] dominating him. It worked out just as well for him as it did for Trunks.

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* Using the the 3rd Grade of Super Saiyan 1 can have this effect in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''. They're still fast compared to almost anyone else, but the bulky muscles make it tougher for them to keep up with someone on the same level. Both Goku and Vegeta spotted this flaw while training (Goku worked around it with a more efficient way to power up the Super Saiyan form, and Vegeta went stuck with an the intermediate step that bulked him up a little bit, but not enough to slow him down), down until he learned Goku's solution), but Future Trunks only caught on after getting his butt kicked by Cell, who stresses the important difference between a Mighty Glacier and a LightningBruiser. Gohan sidestepped it entirely by being trained by Goku in his solution and then being the first to achieve Super Saiyan 2.
** Cell himself briefly attempts something similar to Super Saiyan 1 3rd Grade when he panics due to [[LightningBruiser Super Saiyan 2 Gohan]] dominating him. It worked out just as well for him as [[GenreSavvy As he used it did for Trunks.in a]] BeamOWar, it ''almost'' worked.
17th Feb '18 9:18:42 PM BattleMaster
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*** These were preceded by the 190 ton Panzer VIII ''Maus'', the largest tank ever actually built (barely; only two prototypes and one never had its turret installed), wasn't quite as insane but still very much an example. Its turret alone was as large as many tanks, and this allowed it to carry a huge 128mm main gun ''and'' a 75mm secondary gun side by side in it. Its front armor was 200-230mm (8-9 inches) thick and even its "weak point" at the rear had 150mm (6 inch) thick armor. That makes its ''thinnest'' armor equal to the "thickest" armor on the King Tiger Heavy tank, the most well protected tank of any nation to see mass production during the entire war. But it had only slightly better mobility than a beached whale, with a top speed of 20 km/h (12 mph), and even that only on firm, level ground. Its massive weight meant that it would be unable to move at all in muddy ground, and it was too heavy for most bridges. Essentially the ''Maus'' was a barely-mobile heavy pillbox.

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*** These were preceded by the 190 188 ton Panzer VIII ''Maus'', the largest tank ever actually built (barely; only two prototypes and one never had its turret installed), wasn't quite as insane but still very much an example. Its turret alone was as large as many tanks, and this allowed it to carry a huge 128mm main gun ''and'' a 75mm secondary gun side by side in it. Its front armor was 200-230mm (8-9 inches) thick and even its "weak point" at the rear had 150mm (6 inch) thick armor. That makes its ''thinnest'' armor equal to the "thickest" armor on the King Tiger Heavy tank, the most well protected tank of any nation to see mass production during the entire war. But it had only slightly better mobility than a beached whale, with a top speed of 20 km/h (12 mph), and even that only on firm, level ground. Its massive weight meant that it would be unable to move at all in muddy ground, and it was too heavy for most bridges. Essentially the ''Maus'' was a barely-mobile heavy pillbox.



** [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdtiger The Jagdtiger]] took this UpToEleven, mounting an even heavier 128mm gun and adding sloped armor. Like the Elefant, it was also sluggish since it used the Tiger I tank's engine despite weighing 30% more than the Tiger I.
** Although the American army relied more on nimble turreted tank destroyers, they did contemplate on building assault vehicles similar to those of the German army. Their finest example was the experimental T28/T95 superheavy tank, which was designed for assaulting the heavily fortified walls and bunkers guarding the Axis homelands. Its frontal armor has a thickness of 305 mm (literally a ''foot'' thick), its gun had a caliber of 105 mm, and noted to be particularly effective against concrete and its max speed is only 13 km/h (8 mph). The T28/T95 was essentially a steel bunker on treads. However, the Army ultimately passed up on the T28/95, viewing it as [[AwesomeButImpractical unusable in combat]] as the heavy weight limited movement across terrain and couldn't arrive in time for combat.

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** [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdtiger The Jagdtiger]] took this UpToEleven, mounting an even heavier 128mm gun and adding sloped armor. Like the Elefant, it was also sluggish since it used the Tiger I tank's engine despite weighing 30% more than the Tiger I.
I- at 71.7 metric tons, it was the heaviest land combat vehicle to ever enter production (the Maus only having made it to the prototype stage).
** Although the American army relied more on nimble turreted tank destroyers, they did contemplate on building assault vehicles similar to those of the German army. Their finest example was the experimental T28/T95 superheavy tank, which was designed for assaulting the heavily fortified walls and bunkers guarding the Axis homelands. Its frontal armor has a thickness of 305 mm (literally a ''foot'' thick), its gun had a caliber of 105 mm, and noted to be particularly effective against concrete and its max speed is only 13 km/h (8 mph). The T28/T95 was essentially a steel bunker on treads. However, the Army ultimately passed up on the T28/95, viewing it as [[AwesomeButImpractical unusable in combat]] as the heavy weight limited movement across terrain and couldn't arrive in time for combat. Also, the war ended before it was ready to be deployed and afterword there wasn't a point to having such a massive, slow vehicle.



* The B-52 Stratofortress is a massive plane that needs eight jets to fly and can't break the sound barrier... but what it's meant to do--bomb the crap out of things--it does even better than the B-1B Lancers and B-2A Spirits supposed to replace it.

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* The B-52 Stratofortress is a massive plane that needs eight jets to fly and can't break the sound barrier... but what it's meant to do--bomb the crap out of things--it does even better than the B-1B Lancers and B-2A Spirits supposed to replace it. In fact, the B-52 does this job so well that it's expected to keep flying until at least 2050, [[TheWorkhorse 94 years after it was first put into service]].
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