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* ''Story/AesirCrossWars'': Azazel is one of these. His Physical Attack stat is the highest in the whole cast, and his Physical Defense stat is also pretty good. However, he has average Magic stats and is the slowest in the party.
20th Dec '17 3:22:07 AM Matchstick
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A greater muscle mass (to a point) theoretically provides speed but the Mighty Glacier tends to use the heaviest equipment possible, sacrificing any speed for the pure crushing power that only he can achieve. Too much muscle can hinder speed and endurance to a degree, as some {{deconstruction}}s of Mighty Glacier characters show.[[note]]In RealLife, people with loads of muscle can still be fast and have endurance to a point but they most likely will not have the same as those with relatively less muscle mass, and lots of muscle can hinder agility and flexibility to a degree as well...but of course, some people work hard enough to be capable of doing it all LightningBruiser types[[/note]]

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A greater muscle mass (to a point) theoretically provides speed but the Mighty Glacier tends to use the heaviest equipment possible, sacrificing any speed for the pure crushing power that only he can achieve. Too much muscle can hinder speed and endurance to a degree, as some {{deconstruction}}s of Mighty Glacier characters show.[[note]]In RealLife, people with loads of muscle can still be fast and have endurance to a point but they most likely will not have the same as those with relatively less muscle mass, and lots of muscle can hinder agility and flexibility to a degree as well... but of course, some people work hard enough to be capable of doing it all LightningBruiser types[[/note]]



** Reinforce. Her speed is also middling, but her attack power is among the strongest - who else have you seen throw out [[spoiler: a city-sized Starlight Breaker?]]

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** Reinforce. Her speed is also middling, but her attack power is among the strongest - who strongest--who else have you seen throw out [[spoiler: a city-sized Starlight Breaker?]]



* The Akimichi clan in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' are a clan made up of Mighty Glaciers. They're all pretty big, due to [[BigEater eating a lot]] in order to convert calories into chakra, are physically very strong, and can expand their arms, legs, and [[AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever entire bodies]]. However, they are also very slow, and as we've seen in [[TheBigGuy Chouji's]] fights, this lack of speed tends to put him at somewhat of a disadvantage. They compensate for this by teaming up with the Yamanaka and Nara Clans -- the former can control their opponent's mind, and the latter can immobilize them physically.

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* The Akimichi clan in ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' are a clan made up of Mighty Glaciers. They're all pretty big, due to [[BigEater eating a lot]] in order to convert calories into chakra, are physically very strong, and can expand their arms, legs, and [[AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever entire bodies]]. However, they are also very slow, and as we've seen in [[TheBigGuy Chouji's]] fights, this lack of speed tends to put him at somewhat of a disadvantage. They compensate for this by teaming up with the Yamanaka and Nara Clans -- the Clans--the former can control their opponent's mind, and the latter can immobilize them physically.



** Colossus counts too. Even though he's easily much, much stronger than he is heavy, this doesn't translate into any speed advantage. In one X-Men issue, he is summoned to Limbo by his sister and has to chase down Baba Yaga - he could barely run faster than a shriveled old hag. Not only is he a slow runner but he's pretty sluggish in a fist fight too; Thor lampshades this when he curbstomps Peter without taking any hits in an issue of Cable and X-Force. This is pretty much why Colossus sticks to going toe-to-toe with opposing heavy-weight big guys and leaves the quicker ones to Beast or Wolverine. This is a case of Main/DependingOnTheWriter, as early editions of the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe attributed Colossus with impressive levels of speed in human form, and claimed he reached peak Olympic athlete levels of speed when he turned into metal.

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** Colossus counts too. Even though he's easily much, much stronger than he is heavy, this doesn't translate into any speed advantage. In one X-Men issue, he is summoned to Limbo by his sister and has to chase down Baba Yaga - he Yaga--he could barely run faster than a shriveled old hag. Not only is he a slow runner but he's pretty sluggish in a fist fight too; Thor lampshades this when he curbstomps Peter without taking any hits in an issue of Cable and X-Force. This is pretty much why Colossus sticks to going toe-to-toe with opposing heavy-weight big guys and leaves the quicker ones to Beast or Wolverine. This is a case of Main/DependingOnTheWriter, as early editions of the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe attributed Colossus with impressive levels of speed in human form, and claimed he reached peak Olympic athlete levels of speed when he turned into metal.



* In [[Fanfic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse the Lunaverse]], this is how Raindrops is depicted -- slow and clumsy for a pegasus, but stronger than the average earth pony, who are the designated strong pony subtype.

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* In [[Fanfic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse the Lunaverse]], this is how Raindrops is depicted -- slow depicted--slow and clumsy for a pegasus, but stronger than the average earth pony, who are the designated strong pony subtype.



** The AT-AT Imperial walker is a terrestrial vehicle example - painfully slow, but making up for it in blaster-proof armor and firepower.

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** The AT-AT Imperial walker is a terrestrial vehicle example - painfully example--painfully slow, but making up for it in blaster-proof armor and firepower.



* Franchise/{{Rocky}} was initially portrayed as this- he was slow and had pretty poor technique, but he had massive punching power and could absorb insane amounts of punishment. Over the course of the series he would become faster and a better boxer and more of a LightningBruiser, but by ''Film/RockyBalboa'' his age and injuries had caught up to him and he was back to taking a beating, waiting for an opening and then hitting his opponent as hard as possible.

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* Franchise/{{Rocky}} was initially portrayed as this- he this--he was slow and had pretty poor technique, but he had massive punching power and could absorb insane amounts of punishment. Over the course of the series he would become faster and a better boxer and more of a LightningBruiser, but by ''Film/RockyBalboa'' his age and injuries had caught up to him and he was back to taking a beating, waiting for an opening and then hitting his opponent as hard as possible.



%% * [[Literature/{{Lensman}} Lensmen]]: The Maulers - for when the terms battlecruiser, battleship, dreadnought and super-dreadnought are no longer enough. Maulers will swerve aside for nothing smaller than a planet. Imagine a [[StarWars Super Star Destroyer]] on steroids, without the flaw which permitted the ''Executor'''s [[RammingAlwaysWorks destruction.]]

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%% * [[Literature/{{Lensman}} Lensmen]]: The Maulers - for Maulers--for when the terms battlecruiser, battleship, dreadnought and super-dreadnought are no longer enough. Maulers will swerve aside for nothing smaller than a planet. Imagine a [[StarWars Super Star Destroyer]] on steroids, without the flaw which permitted the ''Executor'''s [[RammingAlwaysWorks destruction.]]



* Most American battleships in ''TabletopGame/VictoryInThePacific'' are this - not only are they slower than their Japanese counterparts, but they have no central base to operate from, adding to the "glacier" effect by limiting the amount of ocean over which they can project their "mighty" surface combat power.

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* Most American battleships in ''TabletopGame/VictoryInThePacific'' are this - not this--not only are they slower than their Japanese counterparts, but they have no central base to operate from, adding to the "glacier" effect by limiting the amount of ocean over which they can project their "mighty" surface combat power.



** Malfeas Charms are also heavy on things like "[[ThePowerOfHate if you screw with me I will hit you]] [[FrickinLaserBeams with hate-powered lasers that will]] [[FantasticNuke give you radiation sickness]]"...but has absolutely nothing published to enhance flurries, Join Battle rolls, Dodge DV or movement speed. An Infernal can take both Malfeas brute-force mojo and Adorjani movement magic, producing a LightningBruiser powered by radiation, pain and crazy.

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** Malfeas Charms are also heavy on things like "[[ThePowerOfHate if you screw with me I will hit you]] [[FrickinLaserBeams with hate-powered lasers that will]] [[FantasticNuke give you radiation sickness]]"... but has absolutely nothing published to enhance flurries, Join Battle rolls, Dodge DV or movement speed. An Infernal can take both Malfeas brute-force mojo and Adorjani movement magic, producing a LightningBruiser powered by radiation, pain and crazy.



* In Hawk Wargames's ''Dropzone Commander'', both human factions -- the UCM and the PHR are this. The UCM's tanks and the even slower PHR battle walkers can't match the speed of the Shaltari war striders, let alone the superfast anti-grav tanks of the Shaltari and Scourge. They make up for it by having heavier armour than the aliens (the material strength of the humans' armour is actually weaker than those for the aliens, but human vehicles more than make up for it by having extremely thick armour while the aliens use a much thinner hull), and the weaponry on human vehicles rival or exceed those of the alien races.
* In ''TabletopGame/XWingMiniatures'', the Imperial VT-49 Decimator has a fairly limited selection of moves - not much of [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/xwing-miniatures/images/f/fe/MI_VT-49-DECIMATOR.png/revision/latest?cb=20161209202850 its dial]] is green, and it has no particularly noteworthy repositioning options or turning moves (most ships have at least a Koiogran turn to quickly reverse direction, but the Decimator has to turn around the slow way; without a pricey upgrade it can't boost; and it can never barrel roll). Additionally, while it has a lot of hull points, its Agility of 0 means that unless you're at range 3 or on the other side of an obstacle, you'll be taking a fair amount of damage from enemy attacks. However, it comes with a 3-die main gun that can be fired in any direction, and the Expose elite talent lets you throw on a fourth die, which is around the point where even arc-dodging TIE Phantoms and Interceptors start hoping their dice don't let them down - especially if the Decimator is flown by [[CriticalHitClass Rear Admiral Chiraneau]].

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* In Hawk Wargames's ''Dropzone Commander'', both human factions -- the factions--the UCM and the PHR are this. The UCM's tanks and the even slower PHR battle walkers can't match the speed of the Shaltari war striders, let alone the superfast anti-grav tanks of the Shaltari and Scourge. They make up for it by having heavier armour than the aliens (the material strength of the humans' armour is actually weaker than those for the aliens, but human vehicles more than make up for it by having extremely thick armour while the aliens use a much thinner hull), and the weaponry on human vehicles rival or exceed those of the alien races.
* In ''TabletopGame/XWingMiniatures'', the Imperial VT-49 Decimator has a fairly limited selection of moves - not moves--not much of [[http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/xwing-miniatures/images/f/fe/MI_VT-49-DECIMATOR.png/revision/latest?cb=20161209202850 its dial]] is green, and it has no particularly noteworthy repositioning options or turning moves (most ships have at least a Koiogran turn to quickly reverse direction, but the Decimator has to turn around the slow way; without a pricey upgrade it can't boost; and it can never barrel roll). Additionally, while it has a lot of hull points, its Agility of 0 means that unless you're at range 3 or on the other side of an obstacle, you'll be taking a fair amount of damage from enemy attacks. However, it comes with a 3-die main gun that can be fired in any direction, and the Expose elite talent lets you throw on a fourth die, which is around the point where even arc-dodging TIE Phantoms and Interceptors start hoping their dice don't let them down - especially down--especially if the Decimator is flown by [[CriticalHitClass Rear Admiral Chiraneau]].



* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' gives us King Sombra. He has a LivingShadow form that's massive enough to surround his entire PlaceOfPower, and his magic is strong enough to make even {{Physical God}}s like Princess Celestia and Princess Luna worry. However, he also moves like an AdvancingWallOfDoom and takes a while to react to any unexpected threats -- though he's also CrazyPrepared enough to where said "unexpected threats" are few and far between for him (in fact, most of his threat comes from all his precautions set before the good guys managed to come and slow him down).

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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' gives us King Sombra. He has a LivingShadow form that's massive enough to surround his entire PlaceOfPower, and his magic is strong enough to make even {{Physical God}}s like Princess Celestia and Princess Luna worry. However, he also moves like an AdvancingWallOfDoom and takes a while to react to any unexpected threats -- though threats--though he's also CrazyPrepared enough to where said "unexpected threats" are few and far between for him (in fact, most of his threat comes from all his precautions set before the good guys managed to come and slow him down).



** George Foreman late on in his boxing career, after his comeback. The fight with Michael Moorer being an example - George is mighty slow, can barely land a punch on Moorer all fight, but has a decent defense and a chin good enough that Moorer can't knock him out but is miles ahead on points, and then in the last round Moorer's concentration slips, one punch, WHAM, and Foreman has another world title belt.

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** George Foreman late on in his boxing career, after his comeback. The fight with Michael Moorer being an example - George example--George is mighty slow, can barely land a punch on Moorer all fight, but has a decent defense and a chin good enough that Moorer can't knock him out but is miles ahead on points, and then in the last round Moorer's concentration slips, one punch, WHAM, and Foreman has another world title belt.



* The B-52 Stratofortress is a massive plane that needs eight jets to fly and can't break the sound barrier... but what it's meant to do-- bomb the crap out of things-- it does even better than the B-1B Lancers and B-2A Spirits supposed to replace it.

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* The B-52 Stratofortress is a massive plane that needs eight jets to fly and can't break the sound barrier... but what it's meant to do-- bomb do--bomb the crap out of things-- it things--it does even better than the B-1B Lancers and B-2A Spirits supposed to replace it.



*** The Hellcat stunned a lot of Japanese Zero pilots when it was first introduced. It looked so much like the Wildcat that Zero pilots simply barged right in, thinking they were up against a slow and lumbering Wildcat that they could fly circles around...until the Hellcat pilots pushed their engines up to Full Military Power. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
* You can become one if you train hard without proper muscle-stretching exercises. This is the origin of the phrase "Muscle Bound"- people who built their muscles extensively but (without proper weightlifting knowledge) severely damaged their joints. Strong and slow.

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*** The Hellcat stunned a lot of Japanese Zero pilots when it was first introduced. It looked so much like the Wildcat that Zero pilots simply barged right in, thinking they were up against a slow and lumbering Wildcat that they could fly circles around... until the Hellcat pilots pushed their engines up to Full Military Power. Surprise, surprise, surprise.
* You can become one if you train hard without proper muscle-stretching exercises. This is the origin of the phrase "Muscle Bound"- people Bound"--people who built their muscles extensively but (without proper weightlifting knowledge) severely damaged their joints. Strong and slow.


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27th Nov '17 8:37:12 AM HighCrate
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Compare GlassCannon, which sacrifices toughness (as opposed to speed) for the ability to deal massive damage. Contrast the LightningBruiser, who is strong, '''and''' fast. See GlacierWaif for when a Mighty Glacier is of average or below-average size.

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Compare GlassCannon, which sacrifices toughness (as opposed to speed) for the ability to deal massive damage. Contrast the LightningBruiser, who is strong, '''and''' ''and'' fast. See GlacierWaif for when a Mighty Glacier is of average or below-average size.
27th Nov '17 6:57:24 AM Andrzej
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* Once she ups her training in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10092339/23/Ranma-Saotome-Chi-Master Ranma Saotome, Chi Master]]'' Akane is noticeably slower than Ranma but she's extremely talented at chi reinforcement (which increases her strength and defenses) so she's also at least three times as strong.

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* Once she ups her training in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10092339/23/Ranma-Saotome-Chi-Master Ranma Saotome, Chi Master]]'' ''Fanfic/RanmaSaotomeChiMaster'' Akane is noticeably slower than Ranma but she's extremely talented at chi reinforcement (which increases her strength and defenses) so she's also at least three times as strong.
3rd Nov '17 9:49:38 AM Kuruni
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Compare GlassCannon, which sacrifices toughness (as opposed to speed) for the ability to deal massive damage. Contrast the LightningBruiser, who is strong, '''and''' fast. See GlacierWaif for when a Mighty Glacier is of average or below-average size.

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Compare GlassCannon, which sacrifices toughness (as opposed to speed) for the ability to deal massive damage. Contrast the LightningBruiser, who is strong, '''and''' fast. See GlacierWaif for when a Mighty Glacier is of average or below-average size.
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3rd Nov '17 9:49:33 AM Kuruni
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Contrast the LightningBruiser, who is strong, '''and''' fast. See GlacierWaif for when a Mighty Glacier is of average or below-average size.

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Compare GlassCannon, which sacrifices toughness (as opposed to speed) for the ability to deal massive damage. Contrast the LightningBruiser, who is strong, '''and''' fast. See GlacierWaif for when a Mighty Glacier is of average or below-average size.
3rd Nov '17 9:45:58 AM Kuruni
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Contrast the FragileSpeedster, which sacrifices toughness for speed. Compare GlassCannon, which sacrifices toughness (as opposed to speed) for the ability to deal massive damage, and StoneWall, which is the inverse (sacrifices attack power for toughness). Contrast the LightningBruiser, who is strong, fast '''and''' tough. See GlacierWaif for when a Mighty Glacier is of average or below-average size.

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Contrast the FragileSpeedster, which sacrifices toughness for speed. Compare GlassCannon, which sacrifices toughness (as opposed to speed) for the ability to deal massive damage, and StoneWall, which is the inverse (sacrifices attack power for toughness). Contrast the LightningBruiser, who is strong, fast '''and''' tough.fast. See GlacierWaif for when a Mighty Glacier is of average or below-average size.
31st Oct '17 10:49:34 AM HighCrate
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* Park Nam-joo from ''Film/TheHost'' is smaller and leaner than most examples, but while she's a skilled archer, she's ''painfully slow''.
31st Oct '17 8:45:15 AM youfeelingluckypunk27
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* Park Nam-joo from ''Film/TheHost'' is smaller and leaner than most examples, but while she's a skilled archer, she's ''painfully slow''.
23rd Oct '17 7:13:32 AM HighCrate
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** While a LightningBruiser compared to older machines, the British Challenger 2 main battle tank is a mighty glacier compared to contemporary MBTs, sacrificing mobility for durability, although British insistence on rifled cannons does push it into StoneWall territory.
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