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16th Oct '17 6:59:30 AM Someoneman
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--->'''The Lone Ranger''': ''"Spirit-walker." ...'''I can do this.''' ''([[spoiler:[[BlastingItOutOfTheirHands Shoots gun out of Cole's hand]] with his [[OneBulletLeft last bullet]] - [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome saving Tonto]] with [[ChekhovsGun the bullet Tonto forged to kill the "Wendigo"]]]].)

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--->'''The Lone Ranger''': ''"Spirit-walker." ...'''I can do this.''' ''([[spoiler:[[BlastingItOutOfTheirHands Shoots gun out of Cole's hand]] with his [[OneBulletLeft last bullet]] - [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome saving Tonto]] Tonto with [[ChekhovsGun the bullet Tonto forged to kill the "Wendigo"]]]].)



** The Ouija board, which predicts it's own sell price. It was appraised at between $100 and $200, and itself predicted the price would have a '5' in it. It ends up going for $150... the exact middle of the appraisal and a value with a '5' in it. Cindy is not amused when she realizes Jon bought it.

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** The Ouija board, which predicts it's its own sell price. It was appraised at between $100 and $200, and itself predicted the price would have a '5' in it. It ends up going for $150... the exact middle of the appraisal and a value with a '5' in it. Cindy is not amused when she realizes Jon bought it.



* ''Series/ColdCase'' does this at the end of almost every episode, often to [[TearJerker tear-jerking]] effect, with the "ghost" of the episode's victim appearing to either the detectives or someone they were close to in life. Normally, this ''could'' be written off as simply RuleOfSymbolism... except the living people actually seem to ''react'' to these apparitions. Notably, the victim in "Disco Inferno" manages to have a ''fully-choreographed dance number'' with his old girlfriend from beyond the grave.

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* ''Series/ColdCase'' does this at the end of almost every episode, often to [[TearJerker tear-jerking]] effect, with the "ghost" of the episode's victim appearing to either the detectives or someone they were close to in life. Normally, this ''could'' be written off as simply RuleOfSymbolism... except the living people actually seem to ''react'' to these apparitions. Notably, the victim in "Disco Inferno" manages to have a ''fully-choreographed dance number'' with his old girlfriend from beyond the grave.
15th Oct '17 8:28:17 PM DuelMark
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* ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'': In episode 12, Peter almost succumbs to the symbiote, but Uncle Ben appears and helps him. Was this just Peter's conscience helping him in the form of someone he cared for, or did Uncle Ben really come from beyond the grave to help him? The fact that Uncle Ben was able to interact with not only Peter but the symbiote itself suggests he may have been more complex than a simple product of Peter's mind.
10th Oct '17 8:27:42 AM 64SuperNintendo
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* GravityFalls has Robbie convince Wendy to give him a second chance by giving her a cd of a song he wrote for her. In truth it has a [[Subliminal Seduction subliminal message]] on it. When confronted with this fact, Robbie admits he didn't write the song, trying to get out of the blame. Wendy says she doesn't care about the message, she's upset he lied to her about writing a song for her. Given the nature of subliminal messages (especially in fiction) it's impossible to know if she's actually right about the message affecting her or not.

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* GravityFalls has Robbie convince Wendy to give him a second chance by giving her a cd of a song he wrote for her. In truth it has a [[Subliminal Seduction [[SubliminalSeduction subliminal message]] on it. When confronted with this fact, Robbie admits he didn't write the song, trying to get out of the blame. Wendy says she doesn't care about the message, she's upset he lied to her about writing a song for her. Given the nature of subliminal messages (especially in fiction) it's impossible to know if she's actually right about the message affecting her or not.
9th Oct '17 12:51:12 PM chopshop
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* ''{{Series/Fargo}}'':
** Lorne Malvo seems like just a mundane, albeit sociopathic, hitman and ManipulativeBastard who likes screwing with people. But his extreme competence, the way he acts like he knows everybody, [[spoiler: the large collection of tapes he has from people who's lives he's ruined over the years]], and his odd mannerisms and statements (like claiming to have had pie at [[Literature/TheBible the Garden of Eden]]) make him [[UncannyValley feel off]]. As if he's something more than human.
** Stavros Milos [[spoiler: finds the ransom money that Showalter buried in the snow near the end of [[{{Film/Fargo}} the original movie]]. Stavros is convinced that him finding the money was an miracle and gift from God. While the audience knows the backstory behind how the money got there, Stavros just ''happening'' to stumble upon it in the middle of a massive snow-covered field feels like an awfully big coincidence...]]
** Throughout the second season, the various characters see odd occurrences. Unexplained lights in the night sky, strange sounds coming in over radios, Hank sketching strange symbols in his room ([[spoiler: which he claims to be an attempt at making a universal language]]), Betsy's weird experimental chemo drugs, and people making drawings of a UFO hovering over a family. All of these are sufficiently ambiguous that it's not clear whether there really is some sort of alien activity going on or if there's a mundane explanation. [[spoiler: And than in the middle of the climatic shootout at the motel, what seems to be a UFO ''actually shows up'', saving Lou by distracting Bear and Hanzee. Afterwards, [[TheUnreveal nobody can explain what it was or what happened]]; it just appears and disappears. So was it responsible for all the weird stuff that's been happening, or is it unrelated? Did it save Lou on purpose or was it just passing by? Did a UFO even really appear, since the {{Mockumentary}} framing device leaves the possibility that the characters simply misinterpreted what they saw?]]



* ''Series/TrueDetective'', Season 1: Do the birds in the sky actually form a perfect spiral shape, or is Rust hallucinating? Likewise, what about the vortex Rust sees at Carcosa?

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* ''Series/TrueDetective'', Season 1: Do the 1:
** At several points Rust sees strange things, like
birds in the sky actually form forming a perfect spiral shape, shape or is Rust hallucinating? Likewise, what about the a Lovecraftian vortex in the Killer's lair. Rust sees is upfront about suffering from hallucinations and disassociation, but is he really just imagining it?
** It's never said for certain if the hints of a Lovecraftian force
at Carcosa?work are for real or not. The Killer claims that the odd ruins he lives near are [[Literature/TheKingInYellow Carcosa]], but they could just be the abandoned remains of some old ghost town. There was a cult dedicated to the King in Yellow who did some nasty things, but they could've just been a bunch of crazy people committing mundane crimes. The cult video Rust and Hart find makes them recoil in horror; it might some kind of horrible BrownNote they weren't meant to see or they could just be disgusted by the cult's cruel actions in the footage. A child claims to have been chased through the swamp by a monster, but it could've just been the Killer wearing an unusual outfit in the dark. Hart's daughter starts behaving strangely and drawing creepy things, but it's not clear if it has anything to do with the case or if she's just an odd and overly imaginative kid.
29th Sep '17 6:39:36 AM infernape612
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---> '''Jason''': (''to the penguins'') I can't believe you guys are alive!\\

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27th Sep '17 12:19:42 PM MasamiPhoenix
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* GravityFalls has Robbie convince Wendy to give him a second chance by giving her a cd of a song he wrote for her. In truth it has a [[Subliminal Seduction subliminal message]] on it. When confronted with this fact, Robbie admits he didn't write the song, trying to get out of the blame. Wendy says she doesn't care about the message, she's upset he lied to her about writing a song for her. Given the nature of subliminal messages (especially in fiction) it's impossible to know if she's actually right about the message affecting her or not.
24th Sep '17 9:20:43 AM nombretomado
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* ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech'''s "[[StealthyColossus Phantom 'Mech]]" ability, which was displayed in the ''BattleTechExpandedUniverse'' but also given rules in the tabletop during three different scenario sets. In combat, Morgan Kell's, Patrick Kell's and Yorinaga Kurita's [[HumongousMecha battlemechs]] became completely invisible to sensors, and targeting systems were completely unable to detect them. Attempting to fire upon them resulted in the weapon missing entirely, unless they engaged each other, or someone got both fancy and dumb. (Daniel Allard successfully hit Morgan Kell by having his 'Mech's computer fire at the flashes of Morgan's lasers; he said himself this was low-probability to work if Morgan had been moving.) It's never explained what exactly it is; whether it be destiny, or a [[LostTechnology LosTech]] stealth system. The fact Morgan was apparently able to do it against the Clans again during the Battle of Luthien argues against it having been lostech, though.

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* ''Tabletopgame/BattleTech'''s "[[StealthyColossus Phantom 'Mech]]" ability, which was displayed in the ''BattleTechExpandedUniverse'' ''Franchise/BattleTechExpandedUniverse'' but also given rules in the tabletop during three different scenario sets. In combat, Morgan Kell's, Patrick Kell's and Yorinaga Kurita's [[HumongousMecha battlemechs]] became completely invisible to sensors, and targeting systems were completely unable to detect them. Attempting to fire upon them resulted in the weapon missing entirely, unless they engaged each other, or someone got both fancy and dumb. (Daniel Allard successfully hit Morgan Kell by having his 'Mech's computer fire at the flashes of Morgan's lasers; he said himself this was low-probability to work if Morgan had been moving.) It's never explained what exactly it is; whether it be destiny, or a [[LostTechnology LosTech]] stealth system. The fact Morgan was apparently able to do it against the Clans again during the Battle of Luthien argues against it having been lostech, though.
20th Sep '17 10:20:05 PM ItsCursorBby
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* ''VideoGame/EnsembleStars'' has a number of characters whose status as ordinary humans is... vague at best. The Sakuma brothers officially have a case of vampire-centric chuunibyou, but aspects of their physical health and bits Rei has revealed about their family leave the "chuunibyou" part up in the air. Wataru and the members of Switch, who are all some variety of magician, have each pulled off something that seems to unlikely to be an ordinary magic trick. And Kanata [[spoiler:claims to be a sea god and has a cult following. It's unclear if that's just something his parents raised him to believe or not.]]
18th Sep '17 9:43:14 PM Fireblood
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* ''Series/LegendOfTheSeeker'': It's unclear if Maya really was the Creator's human incarnation or not, though Kahlan believes that she is.
17th Sep '17 11:02:29 AM ixfd64
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* Wiki/SCPFoundation: Sometimes lampshaded. It is now known whether the effects of certain SCPs on humans are natural reactions or anomalous phenomena. Part of the Foundation's mission is to find out.

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* Wiki/SCPFoundation: Sometimes lampshaded. It is now not known whether the effects of certain SCPs on humans are natural reactions or anomalous phenomena. Part of the Foundation's mission is to find out.
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