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* Part of the plot of ''VideoGame/TalesOfTheAbyss'' is that the lead, [[TheHero Luke]] [[ShelteredAristocrat fon Fabre]] got IdentityAmnesia as a result of being kidnapped seven years ago. His fiancee Natalia is desperate for him to remember their ChildhoodMarriagePromise and focuses on that over everything else, including the fact Luke finds her [[AbhorrentAdmirer annoying]]. [[spoiler: It gets more complicated when TheReveal comes out.]] Natalia's CharacterDevelopment, thus, nearly entirely revolves around her moving past this trope.
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Doing this poorly can feel incredibly cheap if the "explanation" doesn't make sense or potential evidence wasn't [[AssPull presented beforehand]], as it feels as if the writers are just [[CleaningUpRomanticLooseEnds going down the list of romantic opposition and checking them off.]]

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Doing this poorly can feel incredibly cheap if the "explanation" doesn't make sense or potential evidence wasn't [[AssPull presented beforehand]], as it feels as if the writers are just [[CleaningUpRomanticLooseEnds going down the list of romantic opposition and checking them off.]]
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15th Oct '17 9:05:04 PM mouschilight
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** [[TheHero Naruto]] had a crush on [[TheChick Sakura]] because he thought she was pretty (which is an ''incredibly'' shallow reason to "like" someone, thereby fitting this trope perfectly) and [[SingleTargetSexuality she always loved his rival Sasuke]], which made him subconsciously believe that if he managed to win her love, he'd be beating out Sasuke at something for once. It was always about his rivalry with Sasuke--TheAce, the ChickMagnet of his class, and [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter someone who was always better than Naruto]]--than any actual romantic feelings. Sakura even called him out on this trope, pointing out that [[GreenEyedMonster his jealousy towards Sasuke]] was the ''only'' reason why he had a crush on her at all--which was implied back in [[http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/3/17 Chapter 3]]. Both [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]] and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' make it patently clear that his one-sided shallow crush on her was legitimately ''just that'': a passing crush and nothing more; it was ''never'' romantic love. The movie also makes it very clear that [[spoiler:Hinata]] is the first time (and ''only'' time) Naruto experiences both FirstLove and [[OneTrueLove true love]], because he genuinely fell in love with the person, rather than the idea of winning someone over by beating out someone else. Even the movie's {{Tagline}} is "His last story is his FirstLove", which makes [[spoiler:Hinata]] his OneTrueLove, FirstLove, the FirstGirlAfterAll, ''and'' FirstGirlWins. Finally, [[WordOfGod Kishimoto himself explicitly stated]] that Sakura was his first crush, while [[spoiler:Hinata]] is his FirstLove.\\\
Case in point: In the second flashback of the prologue to ''The Last'', when Iruka tells his students to write down the name of the person they want to spend their last day with, Naruto tells Sakura that he'd protect her, which she predictably rebuffs because she's focused on Sasuke. However, when Naruto actually thinks to himself, he admits that he doesn't have friends or family, and he's unable to write down a name. Despite his previous statement, Naruto does not think to write Sakura's name, even though he's supposed to have a crush on her in his childhood. This is an understated yet telling scene that demonstrates that his passing crush on her was non-existent and not serious.
** Speaking of ''The Last'', Naruto's {{fangirl}}s definitely count, since they're only interested in Naruto because he's the hero who ended the war and saved the world. Since he has long since past his GlorySeeker phase, [[CluelessChickMagnet he is clearly shown to be exasperated by their attention]]. Conversely, [[OneTrueLove Hinata Hyuga]] is the ''only'' girl in the Leaf Village who actually [[WartsAndAll loves Naruto for who he is and has always loved him for the way he is]] and not because of him being a hero.
** All of the [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys girls that have a crush on Sasuke]] fall under this trope. Karin got a good look at the real Sasuke as he punched a hole in her to kill Danzo, which seemed to end her affection definitely...except it didn't. After Sasuke gave her a weak apology, [[EasilyForgiven Karin immediately forgave him]].
** Ultimately subverted with Sakura who starts out like any other Sasuke-admirer, but later falls in love with him for real after they become teammates and she learns more about him. [[SingleTargetSexuality She remains in love with him]] even after he tries to kill her twice when they clash as enemies, because she believes that Naruto can bring him back. When [[HazyFeelTurn he rejoins the good guys]], Sakura is able to perceive that Sasuke is not fully back to his former self yet. Nevetheless, she refuses to give up on him even as he remains outwardly dismissive and distant towards her, and still seeks his acknowledgment. After she reaffirms her affections and tries to reach out to him once more before his final battle with Naruto, Sasuke himself comments that they have no reason to love each other and that those are feelings from a failed past. [[spoiler:Following his definitive FaceHeelTurn, Sasuke is finally able to let go of his hatred and fully reciprocate Sakura's feelings. They later travel together, get married and have a daughter, Sarada Uchiha]].

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** [[TheHero Naruto]] had a crush on [[TheChick Sakura]] because 1) he thought she was pretty (which pretty--which is an ''incredibly'' shallow reason to "like" someone, thereby fitting this trope perfectly) and perfectly--and 2) [[SingleTargetSexuality she always loved his rival Sasuke]], which made him subconsciously believe that if he managed to win her love, he'd be beating out Sasuke at something for once. It was always about his rivalry with Sasuke--TheAce, the ChickMagnet of his class, and [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter someone who was always better than Naruto]]--than any actual romantic feelings. Sakura even called him out on this trope, pointing out that [[GreenEyedMonster his jealousy towards Sasuke]] was the ''only'' reason why he had a crush on her at all--which was implied back in [[http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/3/17 Chapter 3]]. 3. Both [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]] and the {{canon}} movie ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' make it patently clear that his one-sided shallow crush on her was legitimately ''just that'': a passing crush and nothing more; it was ''never'' romantic love. The movie also makes it very clear that [[spoiler:Hinata]] is the first time (and and ''only'' time) time Naruto experiences both FirstLove and [[OneTrueLove true love]], because he genuinely fell in love with the person, rather than the idea of winning someone over by beating out someone else. Even the movie's {{Tagline}} is "His last story is his FirstLove", which makes [[spoiler:Hinata]] his OneTrueLove, FirstLove, the FirstGirlAfterAll, ''and'' FirstGirlWins. Finally, [[WordOfGod Kishimoto himself explicitly stated]] that Sakura was his first crush, crush while [[spoiler:Hinata]] is his FirstLove.\\\
Case in point: In the second flashback of the prologue to ''The Last'', when Iruka tells his students to write down the name of the person they want to spend their last day with, Naruto tells Sakura that he'd protect her, which she predictably rebuffs because she's focused on Sasuke. However, when Naruto actually thinks to himself, he admits that he doesn't have friends family or family, friends, and he's unable to write down a name. Despite his previous statement, Naruto does not think to write Sakura's name, even though he's supposed to have a crush on her in his childhood. This is an understated yet telling scene that demonstrates that his passing crush on her was non-existent and not serious.
** Speaking of ''The Last'', Naruto's {{fangirl}}s definitely count, since they're only interested in Naruto because he's the hero who ended the war and saved the world. Since he has long since past his GlorySeeker phase, [[CluelessChickMagnet he is clearly shown to be exasperated by their attention]]. Conversely, [[OneTrueLove Hinata Hyuga]] Hinata]] is the ''only'' girl in the Leaf Village who actually [[WartsAndAll loves Naruto for who he is and has always loved him for the way he is]] and not is]], ''not'' because of him being a hero.
** All of the [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys girls that have a crush on Sasuke]] fall under this trope. Karin got a good look at the real Sasuke as he punched a hole in her to kill Danzo, which seemed to end her affection definitely...except until it didn't. After Sasuke gave her a weak apology, [[EasilyForgiven Karin immediately forgave him]].
** Ultimately subverted Subverted with Sakura who towards Sasuke. She starts out like any other Sasuke-admirer, but later falls in love with him for real after they become teammates and she learns more about him. [[SingleTargetSexuality She remains in love with him]] even after he tries to kill her twice when they clash as they're enemies, because she believes that Naruto can bring him back. When [[HazyFeelTurn he rejoins the good guys]], Sakura is able to perceive that Sasuke is not fully back to his former self yet. Nevetheless, she refuses to give up on him even as he remains outwardly dismissive and distant towards her, and still seeks his acknowledgment. After she reaffirms her affections love and tries to reach out to him once more before his final battle with Naruto, Sasuke himself comments that they have no reason to love each other and that those are feelings from a failed past. [[spoiler:Following his definitive FaceHeelTurn, Sasuke is finally able to let go of his hatred and fully reciprocate Sakura's feelings. They later travel together, get married married, and have a daughter, Sarada Uchiha]].daughter named Sarada]].
15th Oct '17 8:48:15 PM mouschilight
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** [[TheHero Naruto]] had a crush on [[TheChick Sakura]] because he thought she was pretty (which is an ''incredibly'' shallow reason to "like" someone, thereby fitting this trope perfectly) and [[SingleTargetSexuality she always loved his rival Sasuke]], which made him subconsciously believe that if he managed to win her love, he'd be beating out Sasuke at something for once. It was always about his rivalry with Sasuke--TheAce, the ChickMagnet of his class, and [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter someone who was always better than Naruto]]--than any actual romantic feelings. Sakura even called him out on this trope, pointing out that [[GreenEyedMonster his jealousy towards Sasuke]] was the ''only'' reason why he had a crush on her at all--which was implied back in [[http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/3/17 Chapter 3]]. Both [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]] and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' make it patently clear that his one-sided shallow crush on her was legitimately ''just that'': a passing crush and nothing more; it was ''never'' romantic love. The movie also makes it very clear that [[spoiler:Hinata]] is the first time (and ''only'' time) Naruto experiences both FirstLove and [[OneTrueLove true love]], because he genuinely fell in love with the person, rather than the idea of winning someone over by beating out someone else. Even the movie's {{Tagline}} is "His last story is his FirstLove", which makes [[spoiler:Hinata]] his OneTrueLove, FirstLove, the FirstGirlAfterAll, ''and'' FirstGirlWins. Finally, [[WordOfGod Kishimoto himself explicitly stated]] that Sakura was his first crush, while [[spoiler:Hinata]] is his FirstLove.

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** [[TheHero Naruto]] had a crush on [[TheChick Sakura]] because he thought she was pretty (which is an ''incredibly'' shallow reason to "like" someone, thereby fitting this trope perfectly) and [[SingleTargetSexuality she always loved his rival Sasuke]], which made him subconsciously believe that if he managed to win her love, he'd be beating out Sasuke at something for once. It was always about his rivalry with Sasuke--TheAce, the ChickMagnet of his class, and [[AlwaysSomeoneBetter someone who was always better than Naruto]]--than any actual romantic feelings. Sakura even called him out on this trope, pointing out that [[GreenEyedMonster his jealousy towards Sasuke]] was the ''only'' reason why he had a crush on her at all--which was implied back in [[http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/3/17 Chapter 3]]. Both [[ShipSinking Chapter 469]] and ''Anime/TheLastNarutoTheMovie'' make it patently clear that his one-sided shallow crush on her was legitimately ''just that'': a passing crush and nothing more; it was ''never'' romantic love. The movie also makes it very clear that [[spoiler:Hinata]] is the first time (and ''only'' time) Naruto experiences both FirstLove and [[OneTrueLove true love]], because he genuinely fell in love with the person, rather than the idea of winning someone over by beating out someone else. Even the movie's {{Tagline}} is "His last story is his FirstLove", which makes [[spoiler:Hinata]] his OneTrueLove, FirstLove, the FirstGirlAfterAll, ''and'' FirstGirlWins. Finally, [[WordOfGod Kishimoto himself explicitly stated]] that Sakura was his first crush, while [[spoiler:Hinata]] is his FirstLove.\\\
Case in point: In the second flashback of the prologue to ''The Last'', when Iruka tells his students to write down the name of the person they want to spend their last day with, Naruto tells Sakura that he'd protect her, which she predictably rebuffs because she's focused on Sasuke. However, when Naruto actually thinks to himself, he admits that he doesn't have friends or family, and he's unable to write down a name. Despite his previous statement, Naruto does not think to write Sakura's name, even though he's supposed to have a crush on her in his childhood. This is an understated yet telling scene that demonstrates that his passing crush on her was non-existent and not serious.
5th Oct '17 4:57:30 PM LoveForSasuke
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** Sakura starts out like any other Sasuke-admirer, but later falls in love with him for real after they become teammates and she learns more about him. [[SingleTargetSexuality She remains in love with him]] even after he tries to kill her twice, because she believes that Naruto can bring him back. When [[HazyFeelTurn he rejoins the good guys]], he continues to treat her like trash, but Sakura still can't stop seeking his approval. When he goes off the deep end again and attacks her, Sakura ''still'' can't let go of her feelings for him, to the point that Sasuke himself says that Sakura has no reason to love him. Even over a decade later, after [[spoiler:marrying him and having a daughter with him]], she's unable to answer incredibly basic questions about him, as shown in ''Manga/NarutoGaiden''. According to [[WordOfGod Kishimoto]], he deliberately avoided the reasons for why she fell in love with Sasuke because he found all the ideas too [[StrangledByTheRedString contrived]].

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** Ultimately subverted with Sakura who starts out like any other Sasuke-admirer, but later falls in love with him for real after they become teammates and she learns more about him. [[SingleTargetSexuality She remains in love with him]] even after he tries to kill her twice, twice when they clash as enemies, because she believes that Naruto can bring him back. When [[HazyFeelTurn he rejoins the good guys]], he continues to treat her like trash, but Sakura is able to perceive that Sasuke is not fully back to his former self yet. Nevetheless, she refuses to give up on him even as he remains outwardly dismissive and distant towards her, and still can't stop seeking seeks his approval. When he goes off the deep end again acknowledgment. After she reaffirms her affections and attacks her, Sakura ''still'' can't let go of her feelings for him, tries to the point that reach out to him once more before his final battle with Naruto, Sasuke himself says comments that Sakura has they have no reason to love him. Even over a decade later, after [[spoiler:marrying him each other and having that those are feelings from a daughter with him]], she's unable to answer incredibly basic questions about him, as shown in ''Manga/NarutoGaiden''. According to [[WordOfGod Kishimoto]], he deliberately avoided the reasons for why she fell in love with failed past. [[spoiler:Following his definitive FaceHeelTurn, Sasuke because he found all the ideas too [[StrangledByTheRedString contrived]].is finally able to let go of his hatred and fully reciprocate Sakura's feelings. They later travel together, get married and have a daughter, Sarada Uchiha]].
19th Sep '17 12:45:02 PM Nerrin
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Persona 2}}: Innocent Sin'', Lisa is infatuated with Tatsuya from go, but it's clear that it's a shallow fantasy - the popular pretty girl who wants the "cool loner" for a boyfriend. Over the course of the game Tatsuya is shown to be a loner because he's been hurt by loss and reluctant to open up to anyone again, but Lisa genuinely falls in love with the good person hiding behind the loner. Hanakouji and Eikichi do the same with each other as well, though Eikichi's fantasy of Hanakouji is more from not having seen her for years, and her fantasy of him is actually a more shallow and immature person than he turns out to be. The reality of one another turns out to be far more fulfilling.
1st Sep '17 9:01:25 AM cpslck
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** Anthy who [[spoiler: is only with Akio because she used to love Dios. It's implied she's complicit in his plans because she believes that if he gets his powers back, he'll once again be her beloved brother. It takes Utena's HeroicSacrifice before she realizes that it's never going to happen and it's not worth it.]]
** Needless to say almost everyone in the series gets this. A major theme is understanding and accepting people as more than just a stereotype or over-idealized image. Because until you do, you will end up talking past and hurting each other.



* ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays'': The reason why [[AlphaBitch Otome Katou]] loved [[JerkAss Makoto Itou]], since she's the UnluckyChildhoodFriend in the UnwantedHarem surrounding him. [[spoiler:She's [[BrokenPedestal heartbroken]] when it '''finally''' sinks in that [[UsedToBeASweetKid the kind Makoto she once loved]] [[TookALevelInJerkAss doesn't exist anymore]], so she decides to [[WhatTheHellHero call him out on it to his very face]] right before the... [[DownerEnding very special]] GrandFinale.]]

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* ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays'': The reason why [[AlphaBitch Otome Katou]] loved [[JerkAss Makoto Itou]], since she's the UnluckyChildhoodFriend in the UnwantedHarem surrounding him. [[spoiler:She's [[BrokenPedestal heartbroken]] when it '''finally''' sinks in that tyhat [[UsedToBeASweetKid the kind Makoto she once loved]] [[TookALevelInJerkAss doesn't exist anymore]], so she decides to [[WhatTheHellHero call him out on it to his very face]] right before the... [[DownerEnding very special]] GrandFinale.]]
26th Aug '17 7:11:32 AM ironballs16
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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThePiratesOfDarkWater'' called "A Drop of Darkness" had the older [[http://piratesofdarkwater.wikia.com/wiki/Cray Cray]], who had once dated Ren's father. She threw a fit and left him when she caught him ''having a picnic'' with another woman. Ren looks like his father, so when Cray regains her youth, she tries to recapture how happy she remembers being. [[spoiler:Either Ren marries her, or his friends meet messy ends.]]

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* An episode of ''WesternAnimation/ThePiratesOfDarkWater'' called "A Drop of Darkness" had the older [[http://piratesofdarkwater.wikia.com/wiki/Cray Cray]], who had once dated Ren's father. She threw a fit and left him when she caught him ''having a picnic'' with another woman. [[StrongFamilyResemblance Ren looks like his father, father]], so when Cray regains her youth, she tries to recapture how happy she remembers being. [[spoiler:Either Ren marries her, or his friends meet messy ends.]]
26th Aug '17 7:08:39 AM ironballs16
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** And in Season Three, he gives this advice to a RunawayBride he'd accidentally inspired with his speech about the importance of finding a soulmate.
--->'''Tanisha:''' I love Karen, but does she complete me?\\
'''[=BoJack=]:''' Tanisha, nobody completes anybody. That's not a real thing. If you're lucky enough to find someone you can halfway tolerate, you sink your nails in, and you don't let go, no matter what!\\
'''Tanisha:''' So, what? I should just settle?\\
'''[=BoJack=]:''' Yes! Thank you! Exactly! Settle! Because otherwise, you're just going to get older, and harder, and more alone. And you're going to do everything you can to fill that hole with friends, and your career, and meaningless sex, but the hole doesn't get filled. And one day, you're going to look around, and you're going to realize that everybody loves you... But nobody likes you. And that is the loneliest feeling in the world.
22nd Aug '17 3:38:51 PM roxana
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* Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac: One of the core points of the play is that Roxane doesn’t love Christian nor Cyrano, she is in love with their ShadowArchetype: An entity who has all the positive traits of both suitors, but none of their defects, a true shadow.

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* Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac: One of the core points of the play is that Roxane doesn’t love Christian nor Cyrano, she is in love with their ShadowArchetype: An entity who has all the positive traits of both suitors, but none of their defects, a true shadow. It may also be questioned whether Cyrano or Christian is actually in love with Roxanne or just enamored of her golden beauty and wit.
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