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13th Jul '17 6:21:15 PM StarSword
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* ''Literature/KrisLongknife'': Once Kris's expedition deciphers the HumanAlien PlanetLooters' language in ''Tenacious'', they discover that while it has over a dozen words for "submission", it interestingly has no word for "war", as the AbsoluteXenophobe marauders consider all intelligent life other than themselves to be vermin.
12th Jul '17 7:34:33 PM StarSword
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*** The Romulan dictionary in ''Literature/TheRomulanWay'' notes that the word "''galae''", usually translated as "fleet" (as in a SpaceNavy), is actually closer to an aircraft wing in connotations, hearkening back to the Romulan adoption of massed airpower in internal wars in their early history. This implies that culturally the Romulans favor SpaceIsAir to SpaceIsAnOcean, in turn explaining the use of "warbird" in place of "starship".

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*** The Romulan dictionary in ''Literature/TheRomulanWay'' notes that the word "''galae''", usually translated as "fleet" (as in a SpaceNavy), is actually closer to an aircraft wing squadron in connotations, hearkening back to the Romulan adoption of massed airpower in internal wars in their early history. This implies that culturally the Romulans favor SpaceIsAir to SpaceIsAnOcean, in turn explaining the use of "warbird" in place of "starship".
30th Jun '17 9:30:03 PM Grudgeal
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* The language of the ''Literature/ImperialRadch'' only has a single gender, "she". Radch society [[GenderIsNoObject does not recognize the concept of gender roles]] (and possibly not even gender as a concept), and thanks to genetic engineering the limitations of biology ''vis-a-vis'' reproduction and lineage have been eliminated. The entire book series is written using TranslationConvention for Radch language, meaning that none of its characters (with a few exceptions who are talked about using different languages) [[AmbiguousGender are gendered]].

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* The language of the ''Literature/ImperialRadch'' only has a single gender, "she".no gendered pronouns. Radch society [[GenderIsNoObject does not recognize the concept of gender roles]] (and possibly not even gender as a concept), and thanks to genetic engineering the limitations of biology ''vis-a-vis'' reproduction and lineage have been eliminated. [[GenderNeutralWriting The entire book series is written written]] using TranslationConvention for Radch language, language (using female personal pronouns, ("she", "her") and male title pronouns ("lord", "priest")), meaning that none of its characters (with a few exceptions who are talked about using different languages) [[AmbiguousGender are gendered]].
30th Jun '17 9:24:33 PM Grudgeal
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* The language of the ''Literature/ImperialRadch'' only has a single gender, "she". Radch society [[GenderIsNoObject does not recognize the concept of gender roles]] (and possibly not even gender as a concept), and thanks to genetic engineering the limitations of biology ''vis-a-vis'' reproduction and lineage have been eliminated. Thus, their language doesn't have more than one. The entire book series is written using TranslationConvention for Radch language, meaning that none of its characters (with a few exceptions who are talked about using different languages) [[AmbiguousGender are gendered]].

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* The language of the ''Literature/ImperialRadch'' only has a single gender, "she". Radch society [[GenderIsNoObject does not recognize the concept of gender roles]] (and possibly not even gender as a concept), and thanks to genetic engineering the limitations of biology ''vis-a-vis'' reproduction and lineage have been eliminated. Thus, their language doesn't have more than one. The entire book series is written using TranslationConvention for Radch language, meaning that none of its characters (with a few exceptions who are talked about using different languages) [[AmbiguousGender are gendered]].
30th Jun '17 9:24:11 PM Grudgeal
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* The language of the ''Literature/ImperialRadch'' only has a single gender, "she". Radch society [[GenderIsNoObject does not recognize the concept of gender roles]] (and possibly not even gender as a concept), and thanks to genetic engineering the limitations of sex ''vis-a-vis'' reproduction and lineage has been mostly eliminated. Thus, their language doesn't have more than one. The entire book series is written using TranslationConvention for Radch language, meaning that none of its characters (with a few exceptions who are talked about using different languages) [[AmbiguousGender are gendered]].

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* The language of the ''Literature/ImperialRadch'' only has a single gender, "she". Radch society [[GenderIsNoObject does not recognize the concept of gender roles]] (and possibly not even gender as a concept), and thanks to genetic engineering the limitations of sex biology ''vis-a-vis'' reproduction and lineage has have been mostly eliminated. Thus, their language doesn't have more than one. The entire book series is written using TranslationConvention for Radch language, meaning that none of its characters (with a few exceptions who are talked about using different languages) [[AmbiguousGender are gendered]].
30th Jun '17 9:23:21 PM Grudgeal
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* The language of the ''Literature/ImperialRadch'' only has a single gender, "she". Radch society does not recognize gender roles, and thanks to genetic engineering the limitations of sex ''vis-a-vis'' reproduction and lineage has been mostly eliminated. Thus, their language doesn't have more than one. The entire book series is written using TranslationConvention for Radch language, meaning that none of its characters (with a few exceptions who are talked about using different languages) [[AmbiguousGender are gendered]].

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* The language of the ''Literature/ImperialRadch'' only has a single gender, "she". Radch society [[GenderIsNoObject does not recognize the concept of gender roles, roles]] (and possibly not even gender as a concept), and thanks to genetic engineering the limitations of sex ''vis-a-vis'' reproduction and lineage has been mostly eliminated. Thus, their language doesn't have more than one. The entire book series is written using TranslationConvention for Radch language, meaning that none of its characters (with a few exceptions who are talked about using different languages) [[AmbiguousGender are gendered]].
30th Jun '17 9:20:30 PM Grudgeal
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* The language of the ''Literature/ImperialRadch'' only has a single gender, "she". Radch society does not recognize gender roles, and thanks to genetic engineering the limitations of sex ''vis-a-vis'' reproduction and lineage has been mostly eliminated. Thus, their language doesn't have more than one. The entire book series is written using TranslationConvention for Radch language, meaning that none of its characters (with a few exceptions who are talked about using different languages) [[AmbiguousGender are gendered]].
27th Jun '17 7:59:30 AM BeerBaron
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** In the lore, Ta'agra (the language of the Khajiit) has no word for "rules". The closest equivalent translates to "[[ChaoticNeutral foolish concepts]]".
** The Dragons in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' make no distinction between "debating" and "fighting"--two dragons breathing fire at each other are just having a particularly [[{{Pun}} heated]] argument. Furthermore, dragons' thoughts when voiced are able to [[RealityWarper alter reality]], so when they [[MakeMeWannaShout Shout]] they are not merely casting a spell, but willing fire into existence with a word. Language equals Thought Equals Being, in other words. This is {{exploited}} with the "Dragonrend" ''thu'um'': Dragons have words for the concepts of "mortal," "finite," and "temporary," but as immortal Aedric beings they will never truly grasp them like they do the words for fire, ice and so forth. "Dragonrend" uses those words to [[BrownNote briefly force dragons to experience concepts utterly antithetical to their very nature]], leaving them temporarily unable to Shout or fly.

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** In the series' lore, Ta'agra (the language of the Khajiit) [[CatFolk Khajiit]]) has no word for "rules". The closest equivalent translates to "[[ChaoticNeutral foolish concepts]]".
concepts]]". Naturally, this leads to much CultureClash between them and the other races, especially when it comes to what constitutes "personal property" and "theft."
** The [[LizardFolk Argonian]] language, known as "Jel", has no past or future tense verbs. As such, Argonians tend to live "in the now," [[EasilyForgiven easily forgetting and forgiving]] past offenses while paying little mind to the future. (The possibly {{omniscient}} Hist, [[WiseTree sentient trees]] native to the Argonian homeland who the Argonians worship, seem to do that for them, as seen with them foreseeing and [[TookALevelInBadass preparing]] the Argonians for the [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion Crisis]] and turmoils of the 4th Era.)
** The Dragons in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'' ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'' make no distinction between "debating" and "fighting"--two dragons breathing fire at each other are just having a particularly [[{{Pun}} heated]] argument. Furthermore, dragons' thoughts when voiced are able to [[RealityWarper alter reality]], so when they [[MakeMeWannaShout Shout]] they are not merely casting a spell, but willing fire into existence with a word. Language equals Thought Equals Being, in other words. This is {{exploited}} with the "Dragonrend" ''thu'um'': Dragons have words for the concepts of "mortal," "finite," and "temporary," but as immortal Aedric beings they will never truly grasp them like they do the words for fire, ice and so forth. "Dragonrend" uses those words to [[BrownNote briefly force dragons to experience concepts utterly antithetical to their very nature]], leaving them temporarily unable to Shout or fly.
16th Jun '17 2:08:37 PM MarqFJA
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* ''Fanfic/RainbowDoubledashesLunaverse:'' Discussed in a story focusing on the dragons, who have problems here. Since dragon society is based mainly around greed and being the strongest, the dragon speaking to Cheerilee and Raindrops explains there are some terms he has to use Equestrian for, because the dragons just don't have the words.

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* ''Fanfic/RainbowDoubledashesLunaverse:'' ''Fanfic/RainbowDoubleDashsLunaverse:'' Discussed in a story focusing on the dragons, who have problems here. Since dragon society is based mainly around greed and being the strongest, the dragon speaking to Cheerilee and Raindrops explains there are some terms he has to use Equestrian for, because the dragons just don't have the words.
15th May '17 3:55:24 PM hppavilion1
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[[caption-width-right:288:Edward Sapir, left, would consider English and [[Franchise/StarTrek Klingon]] not "sufficiently similar to be considered as representing the same social reality."[[note]]On the other hand, [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Worf, Son of Mogh]], has little time for linguistic niceties.[[/note]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:288:Edward Sapir, left, would consider English and [[Franchise/StarTrek Klingon]] not "sufficiently similar to be considered as representing the same social reality."[[note]]On the other hand, " [[Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration Worf, Son of Mogh]], Mogh]] (right), on the other hand, has little time for linguistic niceties.[[/note]]]]
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