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25th Jun '16 9:36:30 PM nombretomado
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* Jon Irenicus in ''BaldursGate II'', apparently as a result of (roughly speaking) having no soul. Presumably Bodhi too, but she doesn't act that way as clearly. Irenicus has lost the ability to feel most emotions, at least positive ones, and is himself horrified at his condition. However, since he was already evil before and is now devoted to vengeance, he doesn't mind being able to do absolutely horrible things without flinching. His interactions with others can go something like this:

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* Jon Irenicus in ''BaldursGate II'', ''VideoGame/BaldursGateII'', apparently as a result of (roughly speaking) having no soul. Presumably Bodhi too, but she doesn't act that way as clearly. Irenicus has lost the ability to feel most emotions, at least positive ones, and is himself horrified at his condition. However, since he was already evil before and is now devoted to vengeance, he doesn't mind being able to do absolutely horrible things without flinching. His interactions with others can go something like this:
23rd Jun '16 7:27:44 AM Wheezy
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17th Jun '16 12:21:18 PM Bartzv
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** Majin Buu provides different takes on this. Fat Buu genuinely doesn't know any better due to his childlike demeanor and gradually learns empathy through Mr.Satan and Bee, while Kid Buu is simply too mindless to comprehend ''anything'' other than destruction. Super Buu on the other hand is intelligent enough to be aware that he's inflicting harm on others and evil enough to not care and enjoy it anyway.

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** Majin Buu provides different takes on this. Fat Buu genuinely doesn't know any better due to his childlike demeanor and gradually learns empathy through Mr.Satan and Bee, while Kid Buu is simply too mindless to comprehend ''anything'' other than destruction. Super Buu on the other hand is intelligent sentient enough to be aware know that he's inflicting harm on others and evil enough to not care and enjoy it anyway.
13th Jun '16 1:36:36 AM Nintendoman01
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** Vegeta was a perfect example before his HeelFaceTurn, being so cruel and callous that [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Nappa and Raditz were shocked by some of his actions]]. He coldly murdered his partner Nappa who asked him for help and refused to consider bringing Radit back because he was a weakling for getting himself killed. He also laughed when the Namekians he killed weren't wished back because of how the wish was worded. Even when he wasn't technically evil anymore, [[ItsAllAboutMe he still doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself, including his own son]]. It wasn't until the Buu Saga that he begun to show any empathy towards people and it's mostly because he became begrudgingly fond of them, which he saw as a weakness and was why he gave himself to Babidi. By the end of the series, he finally learned to truly care about someone other than himself.

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** Vegeta was a perfect example before his HeelFaceTurn, being so cruel and callous that [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Nappa and Raditz Raditz]], themselves cold-blooded {{Jerkass}}es, were shocked taken aback by some of his actions]]. actions. He coldly murdered his partner Nappa who asked him for help and refused to consider bringing Radit Raditz back because he was a weakling for getting himself killed. He also laughed Not only that, but when the Namekians he killed weren't wished back because of how revived by the wish was worded.Dragon Balls due to Shenron's LiteralGenie tendencies, he viciously lampshades it and outright ''laughs'' in the other Namekians' faces. Even when he wasn't technically evil anymore, [[ItsAllAboutMe he still doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself, including his own son]]. It wasn't until the Buu Saga that he begun to show any empathy towards people and it's mostly because he became begrudgingly fond of them, which he saw as a weakness and was why he gave himself to Babidi. By the end of the series, he finally learned to truly care about someone other than himself.



** Majin Buu provides different takes on this. Fat Buu genuinely doesn't know any better due to his childlike demeanor and gradually learns empathy through Mr.Satan and Bee; while Kid Buu is simply too mindless to comprehend ''anything'' other than destruction. Super Buu on the other hand is intelligent enough to be aware that he's inflicting harm on others and evil enough to not care and enjoy it anyway.

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** Majin Buu provides different takes on this. Fat Buu genuinely doesn't know any better due to his childlike demeanor and gradually learns empathy through Mr.Satan and Bee; Bee, while Kid Buu is simply too mindless to comprehend ''anything'' other than destruction. Super Buu on the other hand is intelligent enough to be aware that he's inflicting harm on others and evil enough to not care and enjoy it anyway.
12th Jun '16 11:48:18 PM That897Guy
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* If you decide to kill several major characters or want to KillEmAll in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', some of the characters will [[BreakingTheFourthWall call you out on your sociopathic behavior and believe you're killing everyone just because you could]] and how you, the player, lack any empathy. The lack of empathy is also a major character trait for [[spoiler: Flowey. Because Flowey was reincarnated without a soul, he lacks the ability to feel empathy for others and cannot feel any positive emotions if someone does or says something nice to him. The inability to feel is what drives Flowey into madness and it causes him to adopt the nihilistic attitude of "kill or be killed". Even when you beat his Photoshop form, sparing instead of killing him causes Flowey to react with despair and confusion while saying he just cannot understand why you're acting so nice to him.]]

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* If you decide to kill several major characters or want to KillEmAll in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', some of the characters will [[BreakingTheFourthWall call you out on your sociopathic behavior and believe you're killing everyone just because you could]] and how you, the player, lack any empathy. The lack of empathy is also a major character trait for [[spoiler: Flowey. Because Flowey was reincarnated without a soul, he lacks the ability to feel empathy for others and cannot feel any positive emotions if someone does or says something nice to him. others. The inability to feel care about anyone else is what drives Flowey into to madness and it causes allows him to adopt the nihilistic attitude of "kill or be killed". killed" once he loses hope that he'll ever feel compassion again. Even when you beat his Photoshop form, sparing instead of killing him causes Flowey to react with despair and confusion while confusion; saying he just cannot understand why you're acting so nice to him.]]
12th Jun '16 1:58:21 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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On the flip side, just because a character has empathy does not mean that they possess one ounce of compassion or sympathy, though the lack of either usually coincides with at least a diminished sense of empathy. For instance, someone with [[{{Narcissist}} narcissistic]] or [[TheSociopath anti-social personality disorder]] should not be confused with someone with [[UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome Aspergers]] or another form of autism. Narcissists and sociopaths usually have perfect cognitive empathy, but utterly lack affective empathy necessary for genuine compassion. On the other hand, those with Aspergers or Autism sometimes have defective cognitive empathy, but normal or even hyper-effective emotional or compassionate empathy. In short: [[{{Narcissist}} narcissists]] and [[TheSociopath sociopaths]] are generally superficially charming and polite but their pretense of empathy is simply that, a mere ruse to attain a tangible end. (Whereas autistics, on the other hand, are perfectly capable of feeling other people's triumphs and tribulations -- [[HotBlooded often quite intensely]] -- but you wouldn't necessarily know it from their face or tone of voice, and thatís assuming they have learned to identify them.)

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On the flip side, just because a character has empathy does not mean that they possess one ounce of compassion or sympathy, though the lack of either usually coincides with at least a diminished sense of empathy. For instance, someone with [[{{Narcissist}} narcissistic]] {{narcissist}}ic or [[TheSociopath anti-social personality disorder]] should not be confused with someone with [[UsefulNotes/AspergersSyndrome Aspergers]] or another form of autism. Narcissists and sociopaths usually have perfect cognitive empathy, but utterly lack affective empathy necessary for genuine compassion. On the other hand, those with Aspergers or Autism sometimes have defective cognitive empathy, but normal or even hyper-effective emotional or compassionate empathy. In short: [[{{Narcissist}} narcissists]] and [[TheSociopath sociopaths]] are generally superficially charming and polite but their pretense of empathy is simply that, a mere ruse to attain a tangible end. (Whereas end, whereas autistics, on the other hand, are more or less an {{inver|tedTrope}}sion of that: perfectly capable of feeling other people's triumphs and tribulations -- [[HotBlooded often quite intensely]] -- but you wouldn't necessarily know it from their face or tone of voice, and thatís assuming they have learned to identify them.)
31st May '16 7:20:29 AM ZarbiNerada
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** In the final episode a guy robs a corner grocery store. Then when the grocer Julio begs him not to take all the money as there are bills to pay, the robber says, "That's just too bad. Here, let me help you pay them," and shoots him in the stomach thrice. He is unmoved later when Julio's corpse is being wheeled out of the ICU and the widow is being consoled by the priest who gave Julio has last rites.
30th May '16 6:58:51 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Most every character on ''{{Seinfeld}}'', with the occasional exception of Kramer (the only one of the four regulars who is shown to take an interest in the well-being of others). Kramer's main problem in this regard is his constant breaking into Jerry's house and stealing his food.

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* Most every character on ''{{Seinfeld}}'', ''Series/{{Seinfeld}}'', with the occasional exception of Kramer (the only one of the four regulars who is shown to take an interest in the well-being of others). Kramer's main problem in this regard is his constant breaking into Jerry's house and stealing his food.
24th May '16 11:02:02 AM WriterGirl2015
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* Various ghouls in ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'' have this mind set but Torso is a notable example. His diary reveals that he is unable to comprehend or relate to others, and has the sense something is wrong with him. His diary depicts him as thinking of humans as nothing but automated dolls crammed with meat and has no problem with mutilating woman that he [[ALoveToDismember takes as his lovers]].
19th May '16 11:29:09 AM DarkHunter
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* If you decide to kill several major characters or want to KillEmAll in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', some of the characters will [[BreakingTheFourthWall call you out on your sociopathic behavior and believe you're killing everyone just because you could]] and how you, the player, lack any empathy. The lack of empathy is also a major character trait for [[spoiler: Flowey. Because Flowey was reincarnated without a soul, he lacks the ability to feel empathy for others and cannot feel any positive emotions if someone does or says something nice to him. The inability to feel is what drives Flowey into madness and it causes him to adopt the nihilistic attitude of "kill or be killed". Even when you beat his Photoshop form, sparing instead of killing him causes Flowey to react with despair and confusion while saying he just doesn't understand why you're acting so nice to him.]]

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* If you decide to kill several major characters or want to KillEmAll in ''VideoGame/{{Undertale}}'', some of the characters will [[BreakingTheFourthWall call you out on your sociopathic behavior and believe you're killing everyone just because you could]] and how you, the player, lack any empathy. The lack of empathy is also a major character trait for [[spoiler: Flowey. Because Flowey was reincarnated without a soul, he lacks the ability to feel empathy for others and cannot feel any positive emotions if someone does or says something nice to him. The inability to feel is what drives Flowey into madness and it causes him to adopt the nihilistic attitude of "kill or be killed". Even when you beat his Photoshop form, sparing instead of killing him causes Flowey to react with despair and confusion while saying he just doesn't cannot understand why you're acting so nice to him.]]
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