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23rd Apr '17 9:35:57 PM Luigifan
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* In the beginning of ''Anime/CrossAnge'', Ange [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome marvels at the World of Mana, calling it peaceful and perfect]]. By episode 10, having been turned on by everyone in her nation and exiled as CannonFodder against dragons on a PenalColony for being a Norma, she, after almost being executed, decides that the Mana world, which oppressed her and the other Normas, needs to be destroyed. By episode 23, when [[TheMagicGoesAway Embryo severs the Mana network]] and starts [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt the fusion of the two worlds]], a few of the people who turned on her encounter her [[EntitledBastard demand her help]]. She tells them she could care less, and scares them off with a gunshot. In the end, she and the other Normas (and a few formerly-Mana-using sympathizers) go to the DRAGON world, while everyone else deals with the collapse of civilization and the loss of Mana.

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* In the beginning of ''Anime/CrossAnge'', Ange [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome marvels at the World of Mana, calling it peaceful and perfect]]. By episode 10, having been turned on by everyone in her nation and exiled as CannonFodder against dragons on a PenalColony for being a Norma, she, after almost being executed, decides that the Mana world, which oppressed her and the other Normas, needs to be destroyed. By episode 23, when [[TheMagicGoesAway Embryo severs the Mana network]] and starts [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt the fusion of the two worlds]], a few of the people who turned on her encounter her and [[EntitledBastard demand her help]]. She tells them she could care less, and scares them off with a gunshot. In the end, she and the other Normas (and a few formerly-Mana-using sympathizers) go to the DRAGON world, while everyone else deals with the collapse of civilization and the loss of Mana.



* In ''Comicbook/XMen'', the Sentinels were designed to hunt down and destroy mutants. [[AIIsACrapshoot They frequently develop self-awareness]] and decide that the best way to destroy mutants is to eliminate anything that may potentially become a mutant. In other words, anything with a genetic structure.

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* In ''Comicbook/XMen'', the Sentinels were designed to hunt down and destroy mutants. [[AIIsACrapshoot They frequently develop self-awareness]] and decide that the best way to destroy mutants is to eliminate anything that may potentially become a mutant. [[OmnicidalManiac In other words, anything with a genetic structure.]]



-->'''Egon:''' Something terrible is about to enter our world and this building is obviously the door. The architect's name was Ivo Shandor. In 1920 he started a secret society (of Gozer worshippers)... After the UsefulNotes/FirstWorldWar, Shandor decided society was too sick to survive. And he wasn't alone, he had close to a thousand followers when he died. They conducted rituals on the roof. Bizarre rituals intended to bring about the end of the world, and now it looks like it may actually happen.

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-->'''Egon:''' Something terrible is about to enter our world and this building is obviously the door. The architect's name was Ivo Shandor. In 1920 1920, he started a secret society (of Gozer worshippers)... After the UsefulNotes/FirstWorldWar, Shandor decided society was too sick to survive. And he wasn't alone, he had close to a thousand followers when he died. They conducted rituals on the roof. Bizarre rituals intended to bring about the end of the world, and now it looks like it may actually happen.



* [[Literature/TheBible Noah's]] [[TheGreatFlood flood]] and the older Greek version uses this as well. Also, Sodom and Gomorrah. God wants to destroy the whole cities because "their sin is very grievous" but Abraham tries to talk him down, bartering down to sparing the city if at least ten righteous people lived within. The criterion is not met.

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* [[Literature/TheBible Noah's]] [[TheGreatFlood flood]] and the older Greek version uses this as well. Also, Sodom and Gomorrah. God wants to destroy the whole cities because "their sin is very grievous" grievous", but Abraham tries to talk him down, bartering down to sparing the city if at least ten righteous people lived within. The criterion is not met.



* In Literature/TheDresdenFiles book ''Summer Knight'' [[spoiler: The Summer Lady]] plans to use powerful magic to end the cycle of life and death, thus ending the pain that comes with death. Of course, in the short term this plan will kill off most everything currently living. From what little we've seen of his motivations, Cowl seems to feel this way about the White Council. He might have a point there.
* Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' trilogy. By the time Hari Seldon created the science of psychohistory it was too late to save the Galactic Empire - at that point it was so decadent that its fall was inevitable. All he could do was to try to arrange conditions so a new Empire could rise in 1,000 years instead of 30,000.
* In famous French writer Julien Gracq's book ''Literature/LeRivageDesSyrtes'', in the end, the highest ranked government officials, depressed by the decadent and apathetic country of Orsenna they live in, decide not to prevent the on-going war with the military highly superior country of Farghestan (a war that would certainly lead to utter defeat and destruction), just so they can put an end to Orsenna as they know it.
* In ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'', John Galt and his followers feel this way about America. He is headhunting as many talented and intelligent people as possible with the intention of convincing them to not to join an enterprise, but rather a "strike" where skilled workers withdraw their skills from the market and engage only in unskilled labour. The intent is to destabilise the economy and government and for Galt and his followers to eventually fill the power vacuum and remake society in line with their ideals. [[InternetBackdraft Opinions are divided]] as to the morality of his plan.
* In Creator/HBeamPiper's ''The Cosmic Computer'', the existence of the [[MasterComputer titular supercomputer]] was covered up because it had predicted that [[spoiler: the Terran Federation was inexorably declining, and that the decline would accelerate into a rapid collapse if the prediction became generally known]].
* In ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' this is the heroes' attitude towards the United States. Once the US embraced diversity and multiculturalism, it was all over, and all they can hope is to preserve some worthwhile culture in a successor state.

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* In Literature/TheDresdenFiles book ''Summer Knight'' [[spoiler: The Knight'', [[spoiler:The Summer Lady]] plans to use powerful magic to end the cycle of life and death, thus ending the pain that comes with death. Of course, in the short term term, this plan will kill off most everything currently living. From what little we've seen of his motivations, Cowl seems to feel this way about the White Council. He might have a point there.
* Creator/IsaacAsimov's ''Literature/{{Foundation}}'' trilogy. By the time Hari Seldon created the science of psychohistory psychohistory, it was too late to save the Galactic Empire - -- at that point point, it was so decadent that its fall was inevitable. All he could do was to try to arrange conditions so a new Empire could rise in 1,000 years instead of 30,000.
* In famous French writer Julien Gracq's book ''Literature/LeRivageDesSyrtes'', in the end, the highest ranked highest-ranked government officials, depressed by the decadent and apathetic country of Orsenna they live in, decide not to prevent the on-going war with the military highly superior country of Farghestan (a war that would certainly lead to utter defeat and destruction), just so they can put an end to Orsenna as they know it.
* In ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'', John Galt and his followers feel this way about America. He is headhunting as many talented and intelligent people as possible with the intention of convincing them to not to join an enterprise, but rather a "strike" where skilled workers withdraw their skills from the market and engage only in unskilled labour. The intent is to destabilise the economy and government and for Galt and his followers to eventually fill the power vacuum and remake society in line with their ideals. [[InternetBackdraft Opinions are divided]] as to the morality of his plan.
* In Creator/HBeamPiper's ''The Cosmic Computer'', the existence of the [[MasterComputer titular supercomputer]] was covered up because it had predicted that [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Terran Federation was inexorably declining, and that the decline would accelerate into a rapid collapse if the prediction became generally known]].
* In ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'', this is the heroes' attitude towards the United States. Once the US embraced diversity and multiculturalism, it was all over, and all they can hope is to preserve some worthwhile culture in a successor state.



* ''Series/{{Warehouse 13}}'': This is H.G. Wells's opinion on humanity and her motive for trying to bring about a new ice age using an artifact known as “the world’s first weapon of mass destruction.” H.G. was brought out of a hundred year stasis encased in bronze, which she had asked to be placed in due to her becoming mad with grief and hate following her daughter’s murder. H.G. had hoped to wake up in a better world but soon comes to the conclusion that things have only gotten worse and declares the only way to save the world is by “destroying the parasites eating it alive.”

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* ''Series/{{Warehouse 13}}'': This is H.G. Wells's opinion on humanity and her motive for trying to bring about a new ice age using an artifact known as “the world’s first weapon of mass destruction.” H.G. was brought out of a hundred year hundred-year stasis encased in bronze, which she had asked to be placed in due to her becoming mad with grief and hate following her daughter’s murder. H.G. had hoped to wake up in a better world world, but soon comes to the conclusion that things have only gotten worse and declares the only way to save the world is by “destroying the parasites eating it alive.”



** The Season Four BigBad Damien Darhk believes that Star City itself is beyond saving, and he's actually amused that people are still trying to save it. [[spoiler: It ultimately turns out that Darhk and his allies in HIVE feel this way about ''the whole planet'', and plan on nuking it so that they and the select survivors they've gathered can rebuild a better world afterwards; when Merlyn finds out about this, he's quick to hop aboard.]]
* In ''Series/RestaurantStakeout'', The Red Room's workplace environment was one of total freedom due to an owner who assumed a restaurant would run itself. What resulted was everybody treating the place like a second home, serving patrons only if they felt like it, and a chef who openly told his customers he wanted to quit. The staff got so comfortable at work that, unlike all other staffs Willie Degel intervened with before, they verbally attacked Willie every time he tried to propose something or call attention to something--the more Willie yelled at them, the harder they yelled back. Willie eventually walked out, for the first (and so far only) time in the series, when he realized the crew would never accept any workplace changes and that they displayed not an ounce of fear of him or anybody else. The owner soon felt the same way too and fired the entire staff.

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** The Season Four BigBad Damien Darhk believes that Star City itself is beyond saving, and he's actually amused that people are still trying to save it. [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It ultimately turns out that Darhk and his allies in HIVE feel this way about ''the whole planet'', and plan on nuking it so that they and the select survivors they've gathered can rebuild a better world afterwards; when Merlyn finds out about this, he's quick to hop aboard.]]
* In ''Series/RestaurantStakeout'', The Red Room's workplace environment was one of total freedom due to an owner who assumed a restaurant would run itself. What resulted was everybody treating the place like a second home, serving patrons only if they felt like it, and a chef who openly told his customers he wanted to quit. The staff got so comfortable at work that, unlike all other staffs Willie Degel intervened with before, they verbally attacked Willie every time he tried to propose something or call attention to something--the something -- the more Willie yelled at them, the harder they yelled back. Willie eventually walked out, for the first (and so far only) time in the series, when he realized the crew would never accept any workplace changes and that they displayed not an ounce of fear of him or anybody else. The owner soon felt the same way too and fired the entire staff.



* In ''Music/TheProtomen'', after killing Protoman, and realizing that humanity will not stand for itself, Megaman decides to just give up and leave the City to Wily's robots, with a parting shot of "[[BookEnds you are the dead]]" at humanity. In some performances he even says to the robots, "[[PrecisionFStrike Fuck it]]! KillEmAll!"

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* In ''Music/TheProtomen'', after killing Protoman, and realizing that humanity will not stand for itself, Megaman decides to just give up and leave the City to Wily's robots, with a parting shot of "[[BookEnds you are the dead]]" at humanity. In some performances performances, he even says to the robots, "[[PrecisionFStrike Fuck it]]! KillEmAll!"



* This is the position the Craftworld Eldar held about the collapsing Eldar empire in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' right before the fall of the Eldar. They promptly decided to leave their home planets, leaving the debauched majority of their kind behind. Soon after leaving, the fall occurred, which literally {{squick}}ed Slaanesh into existence, claiming the majority of the Eldar empire with it. The few Eldar who remained who survived did so only by taking shelter in the Webway, where they became the Dark Eldar while the ones who escaped on the craftworlds barely managed to escape in time to survive the whole ordeal.

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* This is the position the Craftworld Eldar held about the collapsing Eldar empire in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' right before the fall of the Eldar. They promptly decided to leave their home planets, leaving the debauched majority of their kind behind. Soon after leaving, the fall occurred, which literally {{squick}}ed Slaanesh into existence, claiming the majority of the Eldar empire with it. The few Eldar who remained who survived did so only by taking shelter in the Webway, where they became the Dark Eldar Eldar, while the ones who escaped on the craftworlds barely managed to escape in time to survive the whole ordeal.



* This is Lysandre's motivation in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' - he's convinced that the world will only become more and more corrupt due to terrible people and soon there will be not enough resources to go around, so the only way to save at least some people is to torch the earth and most of the population with it.
* The reason that Neku was brought into the Reaper's Game in ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'' was that the Composer considered Shibuya beyond saving, but agreed to one last game against his Conductor to decide whether he would destroy it or not. [[spoiler: He ultimately wins the game, but decides it's worth keeping around after all.]]

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* This is Lysandre's motivation in ''VideoGame/PokemonXAndY'' - -- he's convinced that the world will only become more and more corrupt due to terrible people and soon there will be not enough resources to go around, so the only way to save at least some people is to torch the earth and most of the population with it.
* The reason that Neku was brought into the Reaper's Game in ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'' was that the Composer considered Shibuya beyond saving, but agreed to one last game against his Conductor to decide whether he would destroy it or not. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He ultimately wins the game, but decides it's worth keeping around after all.]]



* In the season finale for season 3 of ''WesternAnimation/ReBoot'', the city of Mainframe has been trashed so heavily by [=MegaByte=]'s rule that even [[BigGood Bob]] finds it hopeless to actually save the city. His solution is to intentionally lose a Game, corrupting the system past the brink and causing a total systems failure, gambling that the User reboots the system from backup, [[ResetButton restoring things to the way they were]], instead of reformatting, which would annihilate everything completely. [[spoiler: It works.]]

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* In the season finale for season 3 of ''WesternAnimation/ReBoot'', the city of Mainframe has been trashed so heavily by [=MegaByte=]'s rule that even [[BigGood Bob]] finds it hopeless to actually save the city. His solution is to intentionally lose a Game, corrupting the system past the brink and causing a total systems failure, gambling that the User reboots the system from backup, [[ResetButton restoring things to the way they were]], instead of reformatting, which would annihilate everything completely. [[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It works.]]
11th Mar '17 3:13:37 PM WaterBlap
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* Amy's Baking Company in ''Series/KitchenNightmares'' was declared unsalvageable by Gordon Ramsay by the beginning of the second day: When the co-owners realized Gordon would not be playing into their power fantasies by singing praise of their food, they stonewalled everything Gordon tried to do to improve the restaurant with Amy's temper escalating the more Gordon attempted. On the second day's morning, it became clear they had no concern for labor laws and safety regulations and that Amy refused to allow Gordon to speak for more than five seconds before ranting at him, so Gordon up and walked right out.
5th Jan '17 2:10:18 PM Prometheus117
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* This is the position the Craftworld Eldar held about the collapsing eldar empire in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' right before the fall of the eldar. They promptly decided to leave their homeplanets, leaving the debauched majority of their kind behind. Soon after leaving, the fall occured, which literally {{squick}}ed Slaanesh into existence, claiming the majority of the eldar empire with it. The few eldar who remained who survived did so only by taking shelter in the webway, where they became the Dark Eldar while the ones who escaped on the craftworlds barely managed to escape in time to survive the whole ordeal.

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* This is the position the Craftworld Eldar held about the collapsing eldar Eldar empire in ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'' right before the fall of the eldar. Eldar. They promptly decided to leave their homeplanets, home planets, leaving the debauched majority of their kind behind. Soon after leaving, the fall occured, occurred, which literally {{squick}}ed Slaanesh into existence, claiming the majority of the eldar Eldar empire with it. The few eldar Eldar who remained who survived did so only by taking shelter in the webway, Webway, where they became the Dark Eldar while the ones who escaped on the craftworlds barely managed to escape in time to survive the whole ordeal.


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*** There are also plenty of humans who abandoned the Imperium to the Tau or Chaos (or at least the ones who haven't been reduced to gibbering insanity or megalomaniacal evil) that bear this view of the Imperium, seeing it as a broken, decaying empire that's gonna take all of humanity into a hellhole with it when it finally collapses on itself. [[TheExtremistWasRight And honestly]], [[CrapsackWorld they're not wrong]].
17th Dec '16 1:45:44 PM Rhodes7
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* In ''Literature/{{Victoria}}'' this is the heroes' attitude towards the United States. Once the US embraced diversity and multiculturalism, it was all over, and all they can hope is to preserve some worthwhile culture in a successor state.
8th Nov '16 10:14:42 AM azul120
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* In ''Anime/CrossAnge'', Ange decides that the Mana world, which oppressed her and the other Normas only to demand that she defend them when everything goes pear-shaped, is not her problem. She and the other Normas (and a few formerly-Mana-using sympathizers) can go to the DRAGON world, while everyone else deals with the collapse of civilization and the loss of Mana.

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\n* In ''Anime/CodeGeass'', Lelouch practically runs on this: his mother was killed, his sister was crippled, his father sent him and Nunnally to Japan, which was subsequently invaded as part of a global conquest campaign. Most of the people of Britannia are racist and treat the natives, otherwise known as Numbers, as second-class citizens, even the ones who become Honorary Britannians, and some of the leaders think little of razing a ghetto upon the flimsiest pretext. Whether it's to rid the world of the oppression, or just revenge (it's kind of both), he has little reason [[PayEvilUntoEvil to show them any mercy]].
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''Anime/CrossAnge'', Ange [[TheWorldIsJustAwesome marvels at the World of Mana, calling it peaceful and perfect]]. By episode 10, having been turned on by everyone in her nation and exiled as CannonFodder against dragons on a PenalColony for being a Norma, she, after almost being executed, decides that the Mana world, which oppressed her and the other Normas only Normas, needs to be destroyed. By episode 23, when [[TheMagicGoesAway Embryo severs the Mana network]] and starts [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt the fusion of the two worlds]], a few of the people who turned on her encounter her [[EntitledBastard demand that she defend her help]]. She tells them when everything goes pear-shaped, is not her problem. She she could care less, and scares them off with a gunshot. In the end, she and the other Normas (and a few formerly-Mana-using sympathizers) can go to the DRAGON world, while everyone else deals with the collapse of civilization and the loss of Mana.
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* ComicBook/TheQuestion: Hub City, according to [[spoiler: Charlie]], who [[KnowWhenToFoldEm leaves]] at the end of the '80s series. Myra stays on as mayor, primarily to do what she can to protect the children of the city.

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* ComicBook/TheQuestion: Hub City, according to [[spoiler: Charlie]], [[spoiler:Charlie]], who [[KnowWhenToFoldEm leaves]] at the end of the '80s series. Myra stays on as mayor, primarily to do what she can to protect the children of the city.
24th Oct '16 9:17:25 AM Morgenthaler
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* TheOnion has a video where [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0AEarudEdI an FDA commissioner gives up on Americans as a whole.]]

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* TheOnion Website/TheOnion has a video where [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0AEarudEdI an FDA commissioner gives up on Americans as a whole.]]
15th Sep '16 11:30:31 PM Premonition45
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** By the seventh season, the Klingon Empire has had more than its share of corrupt and insane leaders, in spite of the stated Klingon beliefs regarding honor and courage. Ezri Dax's solution is to let the Klingon Empire, as it is then, die off instead of trying to fix things from within, reasoning that the Empire's governing system would just create more corruption in time anyway. This is a strong contrast to the previous Dax, Jadzia, who had a very romantic view of Klingon culture.

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** By the seventh season, the Klingon Empire has had more than its share of corrupt and insane leaders, in spite of the stated Klingon beliefs regarding honor and courage. In "Tacking into the Wind", Ezri Dax's solution is to let the Klingon Empire, as it is then, die off instead of trying to fix things from within, reasoning that the Empire's governing system would just create more corruption in time anyway. This is a strong contrast to the previous Dax, Jadzia, who had a very romantic view of Klingon culture.
13th Jul '16 2:53:50 PM WillBGood
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* There were two such cases in ''Series/BarRescue'' where Jon Taffer pretty much refused to help the owners. The first case was the infamous OFace Bar where the owners were so repulsive. One case had it where one case where their manager abuses a server and said the server was asking for it. It wasn't until Taffer did a background check to find it's reputation with the police and a video with one of the owners hitting an employee where he calls it quits. The second would've been a re-rescue for the Second Base bar, but due to the owner refusing to pinch in on the project all the while being defiant to Taffer.
16th Jun '16 8:15:01 PM Ramidel
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* In ''Anime/CrossAnge'', Ange decides that the Mana world, which oppressed her and the other Normas only to demand that she defend them when everything goes pear-shaped, is not her problem. She and the other Normas (and a few formerly-Mana-using sympathizers) can go to the DRAGON world, while everyone else deals with the collapse of civilization and the loss of Mana.

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21st May '16 2:21:31 PM erforce
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* ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}''. Egon Spengler is explaining the BackStory.

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* ''Film/{{Ghostbusters}}''.''Film/{{Ghostbusters 1984}}''. Egon Spengler is explaining the BackStory.
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