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5th Aug '16 4:38:46 AM whereismytea
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* In ''Anime/{{Endride}}'', Demetrio and Eljuia are willing to forgive not only TheMole [[spoiler:Louise]] but also [[spoiler:[[WorthyOpponent Guidoro]] who has the death of other Ignauts on his hands. This is because they are both [[TheIdealist idealists]], and Demetrio particularly believes that {{revenge}} doesn't solve problems, working with others for a joint cause does. The other team members are less forgiving.


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* In ''Anime/{{Endride}}'', Demetrio and Eljuia are willing to forgive not only TheMole [[spoiler:Louise]] but also [[spoiler:[[WorthyOpponent Guidoro]] Guidoro]]]] who has the death of other Ignauts on his hands. This is because they are both [[TheIdealist idealists]], and Demetrio particularly believes that {{revenge}} doesn't solve problems, working with others for a joint cause does. The other team members are less forgiving.

5th Aug '16 4:37:06 AM whereismytea
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* In ''Anime/{{Endride}}'', Demetrio and Eljuia are willing to forgive not only TheMole [[spoiler:Louise]] but also [[spoiler:[[WorthyOpponent Guidoro]] who has the death of other Ignauts on his hands. This is because they are both [[TheIdealist idealists]], and Demetrio particularly believes that {{revenge}} doesn't solve problems, working with others for a joint cause does. The other team members are less forgiving.

26th Jul '16 7:37:35 AM Morgenthaler
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Sometimes, you'll meet characters who offer complete forgiveness maybe not ''immediately'', but when it is given, it's wholehearted. There is no trick or "gotcha" moment. No matter how serious the wrong was (whether [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope a betrayal of their values]], [[HeelFaceIndex a betrayal of their loved ones]], [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes rape]], [[MurderTropes even murder]]), nothing is beyond the scope of the forgiver's mercy. In extreme cases, a character granting Insane Forgiveness will grant it to someone who already crossed the MoralEventHorizon.

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Sometimes, you'll meet characters who offer complete forgiveness -- maybe not ''immediately'', but when it is given, it's wholehearted. There is no trick or "gotcha" moment. No matter how serious the wrong was (whether [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope a betrayal of their values]], [[HeelFaceIndex a betrayal of their loved ones]], [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes rape]], [[MurderTropes even murder]]), nothing is beyond the scope of the forgiver's mercy. In extreme cases, a character granting Insane Forgiveness will grant it to someone who already crossed the MoralEventHorizon.



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* Not as extreme as the other examples, but quite flagrant by [[DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] standards: In ''Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove'', Emperor Kuzco spends most of the movie treating Pacha terribly, including planning to destroy his village for his own benefit, breaking his promise to Pacha, and being a RoyalBrat in general - culminating in outright abandoning Pacha when he thinks he's found a quicker way home. Yet [[HeelRealization once Kuzco's realized his mistakes]], Pacha has no problem forgiving him at once, leaving the past behind, and helping Kuzco move forward. Maybe being a father has something to do with it.

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* In ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', [[BigGood Manwë]] forgiving [[GodOfEvil Melkor]] is a borderline example--even most of the other Valar thought it was a bad idea. It was a GoodCannotComprehendEvil situation. When Melkor rose up ''again'', waged war in Middle-Earth for centuries and then asked for forgiveness a second time, the Valar just chucked him into the void outside of the universe.

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* Not as extreme as the other examples, but quite flagrant by [[DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] standards: In ''Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove'', Emperor Kuzco spends most of the movie treating Pacha terribly, including planning to destroy his village for his own benefit, breaking his promise to Pacha, and being a RoyalBrat in general - culminating in outright abandoning Pacha when he thinks he's found a quicker way home. Yet [[HeelRealization once Kuzco's realized his mistakes]], Pacha has no problem forgiving him at once, leaving the past behind, and helping Kuzco move forward. Maybe being a father has something to do with it.

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* In ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', [[BigGood Manwë]] forgiving [[GodOfEvil Melkor]] is a borderline example--even most of the other Valar thought it was a bad idea. It was a GoodCannotComprehendEvil situation. When Melkor rose up ''again'', waged war in Middle-Earth for centuries and then asked for forgiveness a second time, the Valar just chucked him into the void outside of the universe.

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* On ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'', Harley Quinn always forgives the Joker no matter what, even when he tortures children and has tried to kill Harley in the past. In this case, she ''is'' insane, though, and the show makes it clear that [[MadLove this isn't a healthy relationship]].

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* On ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'', Harley Quinn always forgives the Joker no matter what, even when he tortures children and has tried to kill Harley in the past. In this case, she ''is'' insane, though, and the show makes it clear that [[MadLove this isn't a healthy relationship]].relationship]].

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27th Jun '16 6:08:49 PM lalalei2001
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* In the ''Anime/YuGiOh'' second anime (or [[DubInducedPlotHole at least the dub]]), Kaiba instantly forgives the Big Five for trying to kill him, or at least decides to hold off calling the police until ''after'' trying out this new virtual reality device they've invented. In the original version, he makes it clear that he knows that they will retaliate if he merely tries to dispose of them, and believes that he will beat them at their own game, making it a case of arrogance, rather than forgiveness.
** ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'' naturally has a field day with this:
--->'''[[MoralityPet Mokuba]]:''' Big Brother, [[LampshadeHanging why are you]] [[OutOfCharacterMoment acting so out of character]]?

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* In ''Manga/YuGiOh'' manga, Yugi has a tendency to forgive ''anyone'' and see the ''Anime/YuGiOh'' second anime (or [[DubInducedPlotHole at least the dub]]), best in them, no matter how heinous their actions. He forgave Yami Yugi fro his early Penalty Games, Kaiba instantly forgives the Big Five for trying to kill him, or at least decides to hold off calling the police until ''after'' his grandpa, and his friends, Marik for trying out this new virtual reality device they've invented. In the original version, he makes it clear that he knows that they will retaliate if he merely tries to dispose of them, kill him and believes that he will beat them at their own game, making it a case of arrogance, rather than forgiveness.
** ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'' naturally has a field day with this:
--->'''[[MoralityPet Mokuba]]:''' Big Brother, [[LampshadeHanging why are you]] [[OutOfCharacterMoment acting so out of character]]?
his friends, and Yami Bakura for also trying to kill him and his friends. [[spoiler:That last one is exploited by Bakura to use Yugi]].
23rd Jun '16 9:30:55 PM Eagal
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* According to [[Literature/TheBible the New Testament]], Jesus, and by extension God, would be an example of this. That's provided the sinner is genuinely contrite, asks for forgiveness and accepts salvation. If they don't, there's a very different result...
** Furthermore, Jesus instructed his followers to extend this same forgiveness to others, to forgive wrongs even up to "seventy-times seven" (an idiom for an unimaginably huge number), and saying that judgment and punishment should be left to God; humans should love one another.

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* According to [[Literature/TheBible the New Testament]], Jesus, and by extension God, would be an example of this. That's provided the sinner is genuinely contrite, asks for forgiveness and accepts salvation. If they don't, there's a very different result...
** Furthermore, Jesus instructed his followers to extend this same forgiveness to others, to forgive wrongs even up to "seventy-times seven" (an idiom for an unimaginably huge number), and saying that judgment and punishment should be left to God; humans should love one another.



* In most of the Abrahamic traditions and in other religions, this is God's response to humanity's transgressions, though it would be divine forgiveness rather than insane. Everything, no matter how terrible, may be forgiven. In broad strokes, current theology in these religions agree the processes is an active process which must be done with sincere repentance and in good faith. Simply "going through the motions" won't cut it. Belief that a loving God stands ready to forgive and redeem any human who seeks out forgiveness is a very important feature in most strains of Protestantism, Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, the LDS, and other faiths. The details of each religion are discussed under Useful Notes and should be subject to the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment.

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* In most of the Abrahamic traditions and in other religions, this is God's response to humanity's transgressions, though it would be divine forgiveness rather than insane. Everything, no matter how terrible, may be forgiven. According to [[Literature/TheBible the New Testament]], Jesus, and by extension God, will forgive anything, provided the sinner is genuinely contrite, asks for forgiveness and accepts salvation. Furthermore, Jesus instructed his followers to extend this same forgiveness to others, to forgive wrongs even up to "seventy-times seven" (an idiom for an unimaginably huge number), and saying that judgment and punishment should be left to God; humans should love one another. In broad strokes, current theology in these religions agree the processes is an active process which must be done with sincere repentance and in good faith. Simply "going through the motions" won't cut it. Belief that a loving God stands ready to forgive and redeem any human who seeks out forgiveness is a very important feature in most strains of Protestantism, Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, the LDS, and other faiths. The details of each religion are discussed under Useful Notes and should be subject to the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment.
16th Jun '16 3:11:11 AM Nintendoman01
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* ''FanFic/RosarioVampireBrightestDarkness'': Tsukune is well-known amongst his friends as the forgiving type, but in Act IV, this is the others' reaction when he decides to forgive Akua and Kahlua for their actions, despite the fact that the two were working for [[AntiHumanAlliance Fairy]] [[FarEastAsianTerrorists Tale]] and were helping Kiria in an EvilPlan that would have destroyed the world. While even Moka and Kokoa, the two's sisters, are firmly convinced that Kahlua and Akua are [[MoralEventHorizon beyond saving]], Tsukune insists that they deserve a second chance because they did what they did in the belief that it would help their father and because they were nothing but Kiria's {{Unwitting Pawn}}s all along.

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Tsukune is well-known amongst his friends as the forgiving type, but in Act IV, this is the others' reaction when he decides to forgive Akua and Kahlua for their actions, despite the fact that the two were working for [[AntiHumanAlliance Fairy]] [[FarEastAsianTerrorists Tale]] and were helping Kiria in an EvilPlan that would have destroyed the world. While even Moka and Kokoa, the two's sisters, are firmly convinced that Kahlua and Akua are [[MoralEventHorizon beyond saving]], Tsukune insists that they deserve a second chance because they did what they did in the belief that it would help their father and because they were nothing but Kiria's {{Unwitting Pawn}}s all along.along.
** Falla's case in Act IV is the most ridiculous example; she rigged the entire girls' dormitory with {{Death Trap}}s in order to kill Moka [[MurderTheHypotenuse so she could have Tsukune]], and did this of her own volition, before she looked into Lilith's Mirror and briefly turned evil again. Kurumu even points out how ridiculous that is... only for the others to repeatedly dismiss her.
4th Jun '16 11:39:19 PM chc232323
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* In most of the Abrahamic traditions and in other religions, this is God's response to humanity's transgressions, though it would be divine forgiveness rather than insane. Everything, no matter how terrible, may be forgiven. In broad strokes, current theology in these religions agree the processes is an active process which must be done with sincere repentance and in good faith. Simply "going through the motions" won't cut it. Belief that a loving God stands ready to forgive and redeem any human who seeks out forgiveness is a very important feature in most strains of Protestantism, Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, the LDS, and other faiths. The details of each religion are discussed under Useful Notes and should be subject to the RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment.
6th May '16 8:43:16 AM Piando
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* In ''InuYasha'', Kouga and his tribe slaughter a whole village of innocent people shortly before meeting Inuyasha and his crew. While Kouga is a rival for Kagome's affection, the cold blooded murders he committed are never so much as mentioned for the entire remainder of the series.

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* In ''InuYasha'', ''Manga/InuYasha'', Kouga and his tribe slaughter a whole village of innocent people shortly before meeting Inuyasha and his crew. While Kouga is a rival for Kagome's affection, the cold blooded murders he committed are never so much as mentioned for the entire remainder of the series.
1st Mar '16 4:47:05 PM vifetoile
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* Not as extreme as the other examples, but quite flagrant by [[DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] standards: In ''WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewGroove'', Emperor Kuzco spends most of the movie treating Pacha terribly, including planning to destroy his village for his own benefit, breaking his promise to Pacha, and being a RoyalBrat in general - culminating in outright abandoning Pacha when he thinks he's found a quicker way home. Yet [[HeelRealization once Kuzco's realized his mistakes]], Pacha has no problem forgiving him at once, leaving the past behind, and helping Kuzco move forward. Maybe being a father has something to do with it.

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* Not as extreme as the other examples, but quite flagrant by [[DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] standards: In ''WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewGroove'', ''Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove'', Emperor Kuzco spends most of the movie treating Pacha terribly, including planning to destroy his village for his own benefit, breaking his promise to Pacha, and being a RoyalBrat in general - culminating in outright abandoning Pacha when he thinks he's found a quicker way home. Yet [[HeelRealization once Kuzco's realized his mistakes]], Pacha has no problem forgiving him at once, leaving the past behind, and helping Kuzco move forward. Maybe being a father has something to do with it.



* In Mozart's ''Theatre/DonGiovanni'', [[WomanScorned Donna Elvira]] is willing to forgive everything if Giovanni just loves her. Also, surprisingly, despite all his scariness, the commander. What do you do if someone tries to rape your daughter, kills you and mocks your grave and you know this man has just a few more ours to live? Gloat back, just wait to really enjoy just seeing him go to hell? Of course not, you come back from the grave in a desperate attempt to save his soul from hell...

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* In Mozart's ''Theatre/DonGiovanni'', [[WomanScorned Donna Elvira]] is willing to forgive everything if Giovanni just loves her. Also, surprisingly, despite all his scariness, the commander. What do you do if someone tries to rape your daughter, kills you and mocks your grave and you know this man has just a few more ours hours to live? Gloat back, just wait lavishly, then sit back and watch the "Giovanni's soul dragged to really enjoy just seeing him go to hell? hell" show? Of course not, you come back from the grave in a desperate attempt to save his soul from hell...
damnation...
1st Mar '16 4:44:37 PM vifetoile
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* Not as extreme as the other examples, but quite flagrant by [[DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] standards: In ''WesternAnimation/TheEmperorsNewGroove'', Emperor Kuzco spends most of the movie treating Pacha terribly, including planning to destroy his village for his own benefit, breaking his promise to Pacha, and being a RoyalBrat in general - culminating in outright abandoning Pacha when he thinks he's found a quicker way home. Yet [[HeelRealization once Kuzco's realized his mistakes]], Pacha has no problem forgiving him at once, leaving the past behind, and helping Kuzco move forward. Maybe being a father has something to do with it.
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