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20th Jul '17 4:22:10 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* One of the reasons fans didn't like ''[[ComicBook/SpiderMan: Quality of Life]]'' was Spidey's rather indifferent reaction to Yith, an assassin trying to murder Curt Connors. In the finally, Yith has a change of heart and turns on her employer - the actual antagonist - and [[VigilanteExecution kills him in cold blood]] with Spidey watching. (And no, nothing at all would have prevented him from apprehending her, no barriers impeding him, no innocents in danger, no other villain trying to kill him, ''nothing''.) He makes no attempt whatsoever to catch her even as she casually walks away. Most fans could not believe he'd be so willing to let a murderer simply walk, even if the guy ''did'' deserve it.

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* One of the reasons fans didn't like ''[[ComicBook/SpiderMan: ''ComicBook/SpiderMan: Quality of Life]]'' Life'' was Spidey's rather indifferent reaction to Yith, an assassin trying to murder Curt Connors. In the finally, Yith has a change of heart and turns on her employer - the actual antagonist - and [[VigilanteExecution kills him in cold blood]] with Spidey watching. (And no, nothing at all would have prevented him from apprehending her, no barriers impeding him, no innocents in danger, no other villain trying to kill him, ''nothing''.) He makes no attempt whatsoever to catch her even as she casually walks away. Most fans could not believe he'd be so willing to let a murderer simply walk, even if the guy ''did'' deserve it.
20th Jul '17 4:21:28 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* One of the reasons fans didn't like ''[[ComicBook/SpiderMan: Quality of Life]]'' was Spidey's rather indifferent reaction to Yith, an assassin trying to murder Curt Connors. In the finally, Yith has a change of heart and turns on her employer - the actual antagonist - and [[VigilanteExecution kills him in cold blood]] with Spidey watching. (And no, nothing at all would have prevented him from apprehending her, no barriers impeding him, no innocents in danger, no other villain trying to kill him, ''nothing''.) He makes no attempt whatsoever to catch her even as she casually walks away. Most fans could not believe he'd be so willing to let a murderer simply walk, even if the guy ''did'' deserve it.
14th Jul '17 3:24:59 PM DarkHunter
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* [[IdealHero Touma Kamijou]] and Orsola Aquinas from ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex''.

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[[IdealHero Touma Kamijou]] is often like this. Sure, he won't let it stand when someone does something evil, but once he's punched their lights out for said evil, he'll turn right around and offer his help to them to solve their problems. Basically, Touma helps ''anyone'' who is in danger, regardless of anything they've done in the past. It's even said that this is what makes Touma a true hero: he saves the villain as well as the victim. The biggest example would probably be [[spoiler:Othinus, who quite literally destroyed the world, and tortured Touma both physically and mentally for an unknown but extreme length of time before she eventually gave up, apologized, and restored the world to how it was before. At that point, there wasn't a single person on Earth who was willing to let Othinus walk away with her life... but Touma still stood up for her and refused to let anyone harm her.]]
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Orsola Aquinas from ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex''.is also incredibly forgiving, apparently due to her faith in the Christian religion, which does, after all, preach forgiveness for one's enemies.
7th Jul '17 1:20:35 AM TheSinful
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* In ''Manga/YuGiOh'' manga, Yugi has a tendency to forgive ''anyone'' and see the best in them, no matter how heinous their actions. He forgave Yami Yugi fro his early Penalty Games, Kaiba for trying to kill him, his grandpa, and his friends, Marik for trying to kill him and his friends, and Yami Bakura for also trying to kill him and his friends. [[spoiler:That last one is exploited by Bakura to use Yugi]].

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* In ''Manga/YuGiOh'' manga, Yugi has a tendency to forgive ''anyone'' and see the best in them, no matter how heinous their actions. He forgave Yami Yugi fro for his early Penalty Games, Kaiba for trying to kill him, his grandpa, and his friends, Marik for trying to kill him and his friends, and Yami Bakura for also trying to kill him and his friends. [[spoiler:That last one is exploited by Bakura to use Yugi]].




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* [[Literature/HarryPotter Albus Dumbledore]] is frequently portrayed this way in fanfiction. Such as in ''[[https://www.fanfiction.net/s/9976928/32/The-Bloody-Ashikabi The Bloody Ashikabi]]'' when he threatens to fire James and Lily Potter if they report the student who tried to rape their daughter to the [=DMLE=], claiming that they shouldn't ruin a boy's life just because he made a mistake. Dumbledore later tries to make Harry call off a duel with said attempted rapist after he tries to enslave Harry's wife.
1st Apr '17 10:06:24 AM Silverblade2
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* [[Series/{{Supernatural}} Sam Winchester]] could be the poster boy for this trope. No matter what people do to him, he'll forgive them. Dean blatantly disregarding his wishes multiple times, not trusting him, blaming and guilting him for everything, letting an angel possess him, killing one of his friends? He forgave that. Cas breaking the wall in his head and forcing him to remember all the trauma of Lucifer's cage and resulting in him hallucinating his torturer? Meg possessing him and using his body to kill people? He forgave them too.

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* [[Series/{{Supernatural}} Sam Winchester]] Winchester from ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'' could be the poster boy for this trope. No matter what people do to him, he'll forgive them. Dean blatantly disregarding his wishes multiple times, not trusting him, blaming and guilting him for everything, letting an angel possess him, killing one of his friends? He forgave that. Cas breaking the wall in his head and forcing him to remember all the trauma of Lucifer's cage and resulting in him hallucinating his torturer? Meg possessing him and using his body to kill people? He forgave them too.
3rd Jan '17 1:47:09 AM trixus
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* The TropeNamer for GoKartingWithBowser is a result of this. No matter ''how'' many times Bowser kidnaps Princess Peach, he still gets invitations from her and Mario to play tennis and golf, among other things. Fans have speculated that she ''likes'' it, and it is even speculated in some actual games (like ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'') that he's simply keeping the conflict alive for fun too by now.

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* The TropeNamer for GoKartingWithBowser is a result of this. No matter ''how'' many times Bowser kidnaps Princess Peach, he still gets invitations from her and Mario to play tennis and golf, among other things. Fans have speculated that she ''likes'' it, and it is even speculated in some actual games (like ''VideoGame/SuperMarioSunshine'') that he's simply keeping the conflict alive for fun too by now.
now. WordOfGod is that like the Looney Tunes it's just part of a show and stories change their relationship.
3rd Jan '17 1:34:48 AM trixus
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* Goku from ''Anime/DragonballZ'' has a long list of people who've tried to kill him. Most of these people become his TrueCompanions later and after that happens, he never brings up their previous transgressions. On other occasions, however, his extreme sense of mercy has come back to bite him, ''hard''.

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* Goku from ''Anime/DragonballZ'' has a long list of people who've tried to kill him. Most of these people become his TrueCompanions later and after that happens, he never brings up their previous transgressions. On other occasions, however, his extreme sense of mercy has come back to bite him, ''hard''. The best example is probably when he lets Raditz, his brother who just kidnapped Gohan and told him he'll have to kill a hundred Earthlings to have it back, go by releasing his tails which leads to Goku's first death.
5th Aug '16 4:38:46 AM whereismytea
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* In ''Anime/{{Endride}}'', Demetrio and Eljuia are willing to forgive not only TheMole [[spoiler:Louise]] but also [[spoiler:[[WorthyOpponent Guidoro]] who has the death of other Ignauts on his hands. This is because they are both [[TheIdealist idealists]], and Demetrio particularly believes that {{revenge}} doesn't solve problems, working with others for a joint cause does. The other team members are less forgiving.


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* In ''Anime/{{Endride}}'', Demetrio and Eljuia are willing to forgive not only TheMole [[spoiler:Louise]] but also [[spoiler:[[WorthyOpponent Guidoro]] Guidoro]]]] who has the death of other Ignauts on his hands. This is because they are both [[TheIdealist idealists]], and Demetrio particularly believes that {{revenge}} doesn't solve problems, working with others for a joint cause does. The other team members are less forgiving.

5th Aug '16 4:37:06 AM whereismytea
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* In ''Anime/{{Endride}}'', Demetrio and Eljuia are willing to forgive not only TheMole [[spoiler:Louise]] but also [[spoiler:[[WorthyOpponent Guidoro]] who has the death of other Ignauts on his hands. This is because they are both [[TheIdealist idealists]], and Demetrio particularly believes that {{revenge}} doesn't solve problems, working with others for a joint cause does. The other team members are less forgiving.

26th Jul '16 7:37:35 AM Morgenthaler
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Sometimes, you'll meet characters who offer complete forgiveness maybe not ''immediately'', but when it is given, it's wholehearted. There is no trick or "gotcha" moment. No matter how serious the wrong was (whether [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope a betrayal of their values]], [[HeelFaceIndex a betrayal of their loved ones]], [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes rape]], [[MurderTropes even murder]]), nothing is beyond the scope of the forgiver's mercy. In extreme cases, a character granting Insane Forgiveness will grant it to someone who already crossed the MoralEventHorizon.

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Sometimes, you'll meet characters who offer complete forgiveness -- maybe not ''immediately'', but when it is given, it's wholehearted. There is no trick or "gotcha" moment. No matter how serious the wrong was (whether [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope a betrayal of their values]], [[HeelFaceIndex a betrayal of their loved ones]], [[SexualHarassmentAndRapeTropes rape]], [[MurderTropes even murder]]), nothing is beyond the scope of the forgiver's mercy. In extreme cases, a character granting Insane Forgiveness will grant it to someone who already crossed the MoralEventHorizon.



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* Not as extreme as the other examples, but quite flagrant by [[DisneyAnimatedCanon Disney]] standards: In ''Disney/TheEmperorsNewGroove'', Emperor Kuzco spends most of the movie treating Pacha terribly, including planning to destroy his village for his own benefit, breaking his promise to Pacha, and being a RoyalBrat in general - culminating in outright abandoning Pacha when he thinks he's found a quicker way home. Yet [[HeelRealization once Kuzco's realized his mistakes]], Pacha has no problem forgiving him at once, leaving the past behind, and helping Kuzco move forward. Maybe being a father has something to do with it.

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* In ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', [[BigGood Manwë]] forgiving [[GodOfEvil Melkor]] is a borderline example--even most of the other Valar thought it was a bad idea. It was a GoodCannotComprehendEvil situation. When Melkor rose up ''again'', waged war in Middle-Earth for centuries and then asked for forgiveness a second time, the Valar just chucked him into the void outside of the universe.

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* In ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', [[BigGood Manwë]] forgiving [[GodOfEvil Melkor]] is a borderline example--even most of the other Valar thought it was a bad idea. It was a GoodCannotComprehendEvil situation. When Melkor rose up ''again'', waged war in Middle-Earth for centuries and then asked for forgiveness a second time, the Valar just chucked him into the void outside of the universe.

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* On ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'', Harley Quinn always forgives the Joker no matter what, even when he tortures children and has tried to kill Harley in the past. In this case, she ''is'' insane, though, and the show makes it clear that [[MadLove this isn't a healthy relationship]].

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* On ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'', Harley Quinn always forgives the Joker no matter what, even when he tortures children and has tried to kill Harley in the past. In this case, she ''is'' insane, though, and the show makes it clear that [[MadLove this isn't a healthy relationship]].relationship]].

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