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7th May '17 10:04:06 AM nombretomado
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* In ''TransformersTheMovie'', the Decepticons brutally murder the crew of an Autobot shuttle, including Prowl, Ratchet, Brawn, and Ironhide. While it is pretty unambiguous that Prowl, Ironhide and Ratchet died, several people insist that Brawn actually survived, since he was only shot once in the shoulder and has taken tougher injuries in the past. Plus, he showed up in a shot in a later episode (though this was almost definitely an animation error, since the Decepticon Bonecrusher was with him) and was not mentioned among the dead Autobots in another. This theory is reliant on the idea that the Decepticons would leave Brawn alive for the duration of the shuttle ride from Cybertron to Earth, of course, though Brawn could easily have played dead, as many in active shooter situations have done to survive.

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* In ''TransformersTheMovie'', ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie'', the Decepticons brutally murder the crew of an Autobot shuttle, including Prowl, Ratchet, Brawn, and Ironhide. While it is pretty unambiguous that Prowl, Ironhide and Ratchet died, several people insist that Brawn actually survived, since he was only shot once in the shoulder and has taken tougher injuries in the past. Plus, he showed up in a shot in a later episode (though this was almost definitely an animation error, since the Decepticon Bonecrusher was with him) and was not mentioned among the dead Autobots in another. This theory is reliant on the idea that the Decepticons would leave Brawn alive for the duration of the shuttle ride from Cybertron to Earth, of course, though Brawn could easily have played dead, as many in active shooter situations have done to survive.
27th Dec '16 2:30:27 PM CJCroen1393
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** Kaa is mauled by Baloo, but Mowgli passes out right as it happens. She isn't mentioned again afterwards, so it's not clear if Baloo killed her or just scared her off.

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** Kaa is mauled by Baloo, but Mowgli passes out right as it happens. She isn't mentioned again afterwards, so it's not clear if Baloo killed her or just scared her off. Certainly helped by the fact that Kaa is also [[AttackOfTheFiftyFootWhatever massive]] (giving her great strength) and [[TheOmniscient all-knowing]] (making her a skilled combatant), which could easily allow her to survive.
11th Dec '16 9:55:06 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* ComicBook/JeanGrey has a tendency to die a lot in all kinds of adaptions. Of course, anyone familiar with the original ''ComicBook/XMen'' setting knows that she is, in fact, Phoenix, and has made a career out of coming back from the dead. Thus, when she pulled a HeroicSacrifice at the end of the second ''X-Men'' movie, everybody knew she'd be comming back for the third (and she did)... her death in the ''ComicBook/{{Marvel 1602}}'' timeline is also unlikely to have stuck. Apparently the characters in ''X-Men'' are pretty GenreSavvy, since her tombstone reads: Jean Grey-Summers: She Will Rise Again. It's gotten to the point where they're barely fazed at all by dying anymore. One of Cyclops's plans began with "Step 1: Die. Step 2: Come back to life," and works flawlessly. Another character remarked that Mutant Heaven doesn't have pearly gates, but a revolving door.

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* ComicBook/JeanGrey has a tendency to die a lot in all kinds of adaptions. Of course, anyone familiar with the original ''ComicBook/XMen'' setting knows that she is, in fact, Phoenix, and has made a career out of coming back from the dead. Thus, when she pulled a HeroicSacrifice at the end of the second ''X-Men'' movie, everybody knew she'd be comming back for the third (and she did)... her death in the ''ComicBook/{{Marvel 1602}}'' timeline is also unlikely to have stuck. Apparently the characters in ''X-Men'' are pretty GenreSavvy, savvy, since her tombstone reads: Jean Grey-Summers: She Will Rise Again. It's gotten to the point where they're barely fazed at all by dying anymore. One of Cyclops's plans began with "Step 1: Die. Step 2: Come back to life," and works flawlessly. Another character remarked that Mutant Heaven doesn't have pearly gates, but a revolving door.



* After certain point, who expected Daniel Jackson to stay dead in ''Series/StargateSG1''? [[LampshadeHanging Not the characters, certainly]]. At one point, after Daniel's last known location was a replicator ship that they're ''certain'' exploded in space (and the audience sees him get stabbed in the chest for good measure), General O'Neill refuses to hold even a memorial service because he's [[GenreSavvy expecting Jackson to pop into his office by the end of the day]]. Even a squad of RedShirts cracks wise about the good doctor's tendency to die repeatedly.

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* After certain point, who expected Daniel Jackson to stay dead in ''Series/StargateSG1''? [[LampshadeHanging Not the characters, certainly]]. At one point, after Daniel's last known location was a replicator ship that they're ''certain'' exploded in space (and the audience sees him get stabbed in the chest for good measure), General O'Neill refuses to hold even a memorial service because he's [[GenreSavvy [[RunningGag expecting Jackson to pop into his office by the end of the day]]. Even a squad of RedShirts cracks wise about the good doctor's tendency to die repeatedly.
11th Dec '16 9:54:10 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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Perhaps the AntiHero was LeftForDead in a HeroicSacrifice [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat that no one could survive]], but since they NeverFoundTheBody, and they already had a penchant for FakingTheDead, their survival [[SortingAlgorithmOfDeadness isn't so far fetched.]] Perhaps in the supposed BolivianArmyEnding there is a [[ForgottenPhlebotinum power, technology]] or [[ChekhovsSkill ability]] that, while not explicitly mentioned, could save them. Perhaps the perennial ArchEnemy has been bested in a final showdown and, refusing the [[SaveTheVillain hero's offer to save them]], seemingly [[DisneyVillainDeath plummeted to their doom]], but [[GenreSavvy the audience knows]] [[JokerImmunity how many times this has happened]].

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Perhaps the AntiHero was LeftForDead in a HeroicSacrifice [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat that no one could survive]], but since they NeverFoundTheBody, and they already had a penchant for FakingTheDead, their survival [[SortingAlgorithmOfDeadness isn't so far fetched.]] Perhaps in the supposed BolivianArmyEnding there is a [[ForgottenPhlebotinum power, technology]] or [[ChekhovsSkill ability]] that, while not explicitly mentioned, could save them. Perhaps the perennial ArchEnemy has been bested in a final showdown and, refusing the [[SaveTheVillain hero's offer to save them]], seemingly [[DisneyVillainDeath plummeted to their doom]], but [[GenreSavvy the audience knows]] knows [[JokerImmunity how many times this has happened]].
11th Dec '16 9:53:41 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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->''"It seems that [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated reports of my]]...'' [[InvertedTrope survival]]... ''[[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated have been greatly exaggerated]]."''
-->-- [[spoiler:'''John Konrad''']], ''Videogame/SpecOpsTheLine''

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->''"It seems that [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated reports of my]]...my...'' [[InvertedTrope survival]]... ''[[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated have survival... ''have been greatly exaggerated]].exaggerated."''
-->-- [[spoiler:'''John Konrad''']], ''Videogame/SpecOpsTheLine''
10th Dec '16 1:21:05 AM Tyrathius
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* ''Film/TheJungleBook2016'': Both Louie and Kaa.
** Louie is [[CollapsingLair crushed by his temple collapsing on top of him]]. The end credits include a sequence where the other monkeys are digging him out, which would seem to indicate he survived, but they also show Shere Khan and [[KillItWithFire it seems pretty unlikely he could have survived his death]], so it's debatable whether that's supposed to be canon or not.
** Kaa is mauled by Baloo, but Mowgli passes out right as it happens. She isn't mentioned again afterwards, so it's not clear if Baloo killed her or just scared her off.
20th Oct '16 4:53:33 PM WaxingName
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* In ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'', Giorno Giovanna's Stand Gold Experience [[spoiler:Requiem]] has the power [[spoiler:to negate what happened, and [[DeusExMachina set it back to it's beginning.]] Cue Part VI, the children of DIO are brought to the U.S., however, Giorno is nowhere to be found. When the universe is reset, Giorno may well have just used Gold Experience Requiem and survived. The Jorge Joestar novel says this happens.]]

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* In ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventure'', ''Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureVentoAureo'', Giorno Giovanna's Stand Gold Experience [[spoiler:Requiem]] has the power [[spoiler:to negate what happened, and [[DeusExMachina set it back to it's beginning.]] Cue [[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureStoneOcean Part VI, VI]], the children of DIO are brought to the U.S., however, Giorno is nowhere to be found. When the universe is reset, Giorno may well have just used Gold Experience Requiem and survived. The Jorge Joestar novel says this happens.]]
10th Sep '16 4:37:23 PM Sammettik
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* King Sombra is the only villain in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' to be KilledOffForReal. Just as [[LiterallyShatteredLives his body shatters to pieces]] though, his horn can be seen flying off, fully intact. This wouldn't be much, if it weren't for the fact that, during the episode itself, a small piece of his horn was enough to spread his [[TheCorruption Corruption]] inside a magical barrier. King Sombra is an [[HumanoidAbomination Equinoid Abomination]], so its possible he could [[FromASingleCell regrow his body from the horn.]] Due to his [[GenericDoomsdayVillain lack of characterization]], many assume he'll be back eventually. The comics took advantage of this.

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* King Sombra is the only villain in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' to be KilledOffForReal.killed. Just as [[LiterallyShatteredLives his body shatters to pieces]] though, his horn can be seen flying off, fully intact. This wouldn't be much, if it weren't for the fact that, during the episode itself, a small piece of his horn was enough to spread his [[TheCorruption Corruption]] inside a magical barrier. King Sombra is an [[HumanoidAbomination Equinoid Abomination]], so its possible he could [[FromASingleCell regrow his body from the horn.]] Due to his [[GenericDoomsdayVillain lack of characterization]], many assume he'll be back eventually. The comics took advantage of this.
10th Aug '16 9:50:40 PM desudesu1998
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->''"It seems that [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggeratedreports of my]]...'' [[InvertedTrope survival]]... ''[[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated have been greatly exaggerated]]."''

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->''"It seems that [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggeratedreports [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated reports of my]]...'' [[InvertedTrope survival]]... ''[[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated have been greatly exaggerated]]."''
10th Aug '16 9:50:02 PM desudesu1998
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->''"[[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated It seems that reports of my]]...'' [[InvertedTrope survival]]... ''[[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated have been greatly exaggerated]]."''

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->''"[[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated It ->''"It seems that reports [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggeratedreports of my]]...'' [[InvertedTrope survival]]... ''[[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated have been greatly exaggerated]]."''
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