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Coined by Creator/HankAzaria on ''[[Series/HermansHead Herman's Head]]'': Azaria would ask the writing staff, "Who's carrying the idiot ball this week?" This is generally not a compliment. Frequently, the person carrying the idiot ball is acting {{Out Of Character|Moment}}, [[YouKnowWhatYouDid misunderstanding something that could be cleared up]] [[PoorCommunicationKills by asking a single reasonable question]] or [[JustEatGilligan not performing a simple action]] that would solve everything. It's almost as if the character holding the ball is being willfully stupid or obtuse far beyond what has been established as "natural" for them. Frequently, it's only because the story (and by extension, the writers) ''need'' them to act this way, or else the chosen plot/conflict for the episode won't happen.

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Coined by Creator/HankAzaria on ''[[Series/HermansHead Herman's Head]]'': Azaria would ask the writing staff, "Who's carrying the idiot ball this week?" [[CaptainObvious This is generally not a compliment. compliment.]] Frequently, the person carrying the idiot ball is acting {{Out Of Character|Moment}}, [[YouKnowWhatYouDid misunderstanding something that could be cleared up]] [[PoorCommunicationKills by asking a single reasonable question]] or [[JustEatGilligan not performing a simple action]] that would solve everything. It's almost as if the character holding the ball is being willfully stupid or obtuse far beyond what has been established as "natural" for them. Frequently, it's only because the story (and by extension, the writers) ''need'' them to act this way, or else the chosen plot/conflict for the episode won't happen.

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-->-- ''Franchise/StarWars'' Episode III: ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''

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-->-- ''Franchise/StarWars'' Episode III: ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''
''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''[[note]][[SubvertedTrope They actually wanted to be caught so they could be taken to Grievous.]][[/note]]
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On the other hand TropesAreNotBad - making stupid mistakes can be the hallmark of CharacterDevelopment if the person recognizes it in the end. Seeing someone discarding the idiot ball can be a rewarding moment when they are TaughtByExperience. Likewise, Idiot Balls can also deflect a boring InvincibleHero, which is positive for an audience reaction. There is nothing like a "Why on earth did he do that?" to get the fans talking about the show after it's over. In any relatively [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism Idealistic setting]], the villains will typically ''always'' firmly hold onto the Idiot Ball; instead of [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just shooting the heroes]], expect to see plenty of EvilGloating because... well, the show would be over otherwise. It's also worth noting that an idiot ball can be in the hands of someone whose personality would likely leave them holding it (the hotheaded type shooting his or her mouth off at a crucial moment when silence and discretion were necessary, for example).

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On the other hand TropesAreNotBad hand, Administrivia/TropesAreNotBad - making stupid mistakes can be the hallmark of CharacterDevelopment if the person recognizes it in the end. Seeing someone discarding the idiot ball can be a rewarding moment when they are TaughtByExperience. Likewise, Idiot Balls can also deflect a boring InvincibleHero, which is positive for an audience reaction. There is nothing like a "Why on earth did he do that?" to get the fans talking about the show after it's over. In any relatively [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism Idealistic setting]], the villains will typically ''always'' firmly hold onto the Idiot Ball; instead of [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just shooting the heroes]], expect to see plenty of EvilGloating because... well, the show would be over otherwise. It's also worth noting that an idiot ball can be in the hands of someone whose personality would likely leave them holding it (the hotheaded type shooting his or her mouth off at a crucial moment when silence and discretion were necessary, for example).
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->'''[=SpongeBob=]:''' Sandy, you're smart. Do you have any ideas?\\
'''Sandy:''' Well, I ain't been too smart since I found [[ItMakesSenseInContext this old piece of paper]]!
-->-- ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobMovieSpongeOutOfWater The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water]]''

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->'''Obi-Wan:''' ''[trapped in ray shields]'' Wait a minute. How did this old piece of paper]]!
happen? We're smarter than this.\\
'''Anakin:''' Apparently not.
-->-- ''[[WesternAnimation/TheSpongeBobMovieSpongeOutOfWater The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water]]''
''Franchise/StarWars'' Episode III: ''Film/RevengeOfTheSith''
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->'''Obi-Wan:''' ''[trapped in ray shields]'' Wait a minute. How did this happen? We're smarter than this.\\
'''Anakin:''' Apparently not.
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->'''Obi-Wan:''' ''[trapped in ray shields]'' Wait a minute. How did ->'''[=SpongeBob=]:''' Sandy, you're smart. Do you have any ideas?\\
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this happen? We're smarter than this.\\
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old piece of paper]]!
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On the other hand TropesAreNotBad - making stupid mistakes can be the hallmark of CharacterDevelopment if the person recognizes it in the end. Seeing someone discarding the idiot ball can be a rewarding moment when they are TaughtByExperience. Likewise, Idiot Balls can also deflect a boring InvincibleHero, which is positive for an audience reaction. There is nothing like a "Why on earth did he do that?" to get the fans talking about the show after it's over. In any relatively [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism Idealistic setting]], the villains will typically ''always'' firmly hold onto the Idiot Ball; instead of [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just shooting the heroes]], expect to see plenty of EvilGloating because... well, the show would be over otherwise.

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On the other hand TropesAreNotBad - making stupid mistakes can be the hallmark of CharacterDevelopment if the person recognizes it in the end. Seeing someone discarding the idiot ball can be a rewarding moment when they are TaughtByExperience. Likewise, Idiot Balls can also deflect a boring InvincibleHero, which is positive for an audience reaction. There is nothing like a "Why on earth did he do that?" to get the fans talking about the show after it's over. In any relatively [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism Idealistic setting]], the villains will typically ''always'' firmly hold onto the Idiot Ball; instead of [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just shooting the heroes]], expect to see plenty of EvilGloating because... well, the show would be over otherwise.
otherwise. It's also worth noting that an idiot ball can be in the hands of someone whose personality would likely leave them holding it (the hotheaded type shooting his or her mouth off at a crucial moment when silence and discretion were necessary, for example).

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* IdiotBall/{{Film}}

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A moment where a character's stupidity fuels an episode, or a small plot line. If multiple characters have the Idiot Ball, it becomes an IdiotPlot. Temporary (or permanent) GenreBlindness is often a cause of this trope.

Coined by Creator/HankAzaria on ''[[Series/HermansHead Herman's Head]]'': Azaria would ask the writing staff, "Who's carrying the idiot ball this week?" This is generally not a compliment. Frequently, the person carrying the idiot ball is acting [[OutOfCharacterMoment out of character]], [[YouKnowWhatYouDid misunderstanding something that could be cleared up]] [[PoorCommunicationKills by asking a single reasonable question]] or [[JustEatGilligan not performing a simple action]] that would solve everything. It's almost as if the character holding the ball is being willfully stupid or obtuse far beyond what has been established as "natural" for them. Frequently, it's only because the story (and by extension, the writers) ''need'' them to act this way, or else the chosen plot/conflict for the episode won't happen.

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A moment where a character's stupidity normally competent character suddenly becomes incompetent which fuels an episode, episode or a small plot line. If multiple characters have the Idiot Ball, it becomes an IdiotPlot. Temporary (or permanent) GenreBlindness is often a cause of this trope.

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Coined by Creator/HankAzaria on ''[[Series/HermansHead Herman's Head]]'': Azaria would ask the writing staff, "Who's carrying the idiot ball this week?" This is generally not a compliment. Frequently, the person carrying the idiot ball is acting [[OutOfCharacterMoment out of character]], {{Out Of Character|Moment}}, [[YouKnowWhatYouDid misunderstanding something that could be cleared up]] [[PoorCommunicationKills by asking a single reasonable question]] or [[JustEatGilligan not performing a simple action]] that would solve everything. It's almost as if the character holding the ball is being willfully stupid or obtuse far beyond what has been established as "natural" for them. Frequently, it's only because the story (and by extension, the writers) ''need'' them to act this way, or else the chosen plot/conflict for the episode won't happen.



On the other hand, making stupid mistakes can be the hallmark of CharacterDevelopment if the person recognizes it in the end. Seeing someone discarding the idiot ball can be a rewarding moment when they are TaughtByExperience.

Idiot Balls can also deflect a boring InvincibleHero, which is positive for an audience reaction. There is nothing like a "Why on earth did he do that?" to get the fans talking about the show after it's over.

Note that in any relatively [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism Idealistic setting]], the villains will typically ''always'' firmly hold onto the Idiot Ball; instead of [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just shooting the heroes]], expect to see plenty of EvilGloating because... well, [[TropesAreNotBad the show would be over otherwise, right?]]

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On the other hand, hand TropesAreNotBad - making stupid mistakes can be the hallmark of CharacterDevelopment if the person recognizes it in the end. Seeing someone discarding the idiot ball can be a rewarding moment when they are TaughtByExperience.

TaughtByExperience. Likewise, Idiot Balls can also deflect a boring InvincibleHero, which is positive for an audience reaction. There is nothing like a "Why on earth did he do that?" to get the fans talking about the show after it's over. \n\nNote that in In any relatively [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism Idealistic setting]], the villains will typically ''always'' firmly hold onto the Idiot Ball; instead of [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just shooting the heroes]], expect to see plenty of EvilGloating because... well, [[TropesAreNotBad the show would be over otherwise, right?]]
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!![[Main/SuperTrope Subtropes include:]]Temporary (or permanent) GenreBlindness is often a cause of this trope. When multiple characters in the story have to grab the Idiot Ball to keep the plot going, you have an IdiotPlot.

Compare with PingPongNaivete where a character goes back and forth between grabbing and not grabbing a particular Idiot Ball, ForgotAboutHisPowers where a character stupidly advances the plot by ''not'' doing something expected rather than doing something unexpected, and TooDumbToLive where an Idiot Ball puts a character in mortal peril if not kills them.

See also HanlonsRazor. For the {{opposite|Tropes}}, see SmartBall. Peruse the BallIndex for similar forms of {{Out Of Character Moment}}s.

Note that this trope only applies if the person is acting incompetent '''beyond''' what we have normally seen of them. If they are continuously that dumb, they're more likely TheDitz or TheFool.

[[SelfDemonstratingArticle Now if you excuse me, I'll be spending my vacation in]] [[UsefulNotes/{{Chernobyl}} Chernobyl]] [[SelfDemonstratingArticle while all of you tropers look at the many examples of this trope.]]

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This trope is the {{opposite|Tropes}} of SmartBall.

When multiple characters in the story have to grab the Idiot Ball to keep the plot going, you have an IdiotPlot.

Compare with PingPongNaivete where a character goes back and forth between grabbing and not grabbing a particular Idiot Ball, ForgotAboutHisPowers where a character stupidly advances the plot by ''not'' doing something expected rather than doing something unexpected, WhatAnIdiot which is an AudienceReaction to a potential Idiot Ball, and TooDumbToLive where an Idiot Ball puts a character in mortal peril if not kills them.

Compare and contrast HanlonsRazor. See the BallIndex for similar forms of OutOfCharacterMoment[=s=]

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Unsurprisingly, this provokes a {{What an Idiot}} response from the audience. However, sometimes, the purpose is to ''help'' the audience. Sometimes, the holder of the idiot ball [[TheWatson asks the dumb question]] to allow a certain amount of exposition to occur, that wouldn't naturally be talked about, but needs to be stated for the audience.

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Unsurprisingly, this provokes a {{What an Idiot}} WhatAnIdiot response from the audience. However, sometimes, the purpose is to ''help'' the audience. Sometimes, the holder of the idiot ball [[TheWatson asks the dumb question]] to allow a certain amount of exposition to occur, that wouldn't naturally be talked about, but needs to be stated for the audience.
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Note that in any relatively [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism Idealistic setting]], the villains will typically ''always'' firmly hold onto the Idiot Ball; instead of [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just shooting the heroes]], expect to see plenty of EvilGloating because... well, [[TropesAreNotBad the show would be over otherwise, right?]].

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Note that in any relatively [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVsCynicism Idealistic setting]], the villains will typically ''always'' firmly hold onto the Idiot Ball; instead of [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just shooting the heroes]], expect to see plenty of EvilGloating because... well, [[TropesAreNotBad the show would be over otherwise, right?]].
right?]]
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When multiple characters in the story have to grab the Idiot Ball to keep the plot going, you have an IdiotPlot.

Compare with PingPongNaivete where a character goes back and forth between grabbing and not grabbing a particular Idiot Ball, ForgotAboutHisPowers where a character stupidly advances the plot by ''not'' doing something expected rather than doing something unexpected, WhatAnIdiot which is an AudienceReaction to a potential Idiot Ball, and TooDumbToLive where an Idiot Ball puts a character in mortal peril if not kills them.
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->'''Obi-Wan:''' ''[trapped in ray shields]'' Wait a minute. How did this happen? [[LampshadeHanging We're smarter than this.]]\\

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->'''Obi-Wan:''' ''[trapped in ray shields]'' Wait a minute. How did this happen? [[LampshadeHanging We're smarter than this.]]\\\\
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'''Anakin:''' [[LampshadeHangingApparently not.]]

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'''Anakin:''' [[LampshadeHangingApparently Apparently not.]]
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->'''Obi-Wan:''' ''[trapped in ray shields]'' Wait a minute. How did this happen? We're smarter than this.\\
'''Anakin:''' Apparently not.

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->'''Obi-Wan:''' ''[trapped in ray shields]'' Wait a minute. How did this happen? [[LampshadeHanging We're smarter than this.\\
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'''Anakin:''' Apparently [[LampshadeHangingApparently not.]]
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Coined by Creator/HankAzaria on ''[[Series/HermansHead Herman's Head]]'': Azaria would ask the writing staff, "Who's carrying the idiot ball this week?" This is generally not a compliment. Frequently, the person carrying the idiot ball is acting {{out of character}}, [[YouKnowWhatYouDid misunderstanding something that could be cleared up]] [[PoorCommunicationKills by asking a single reasonable question]] or [[JustEatGilligan not performing a simple action]] that would solve everything. It's almost as if the character holding the ball is being willfully stupid or obtuse far beyond what has been established as "natural" for them. Frequently, it's only because the story (and by extension, the writers) ''need'' them to act this way, or else the chosen plot/conflict for the episode won't happen.

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Coined by Creator/HankAzaria on ''[[Series/HermansHead Herman's Head]]'': Azaria would ask the writing staff, "Who's carrying the idiot ball this week?" This is generally not a compliment. Frequently, the person carrying the idiot ball is acting {{out [[OutOfCharacterMoment out of character}}, character]], [[YouKnowWhatYouDid misunderstanding something that could be cleared up]] [[PoorCommunicationKills by asking a single reasonable question]] or [[JustEatGilligan not performing a simple action]] that would solve everything. It's almost as if the character holding the ball is being willfully stupid or obtuse far beyond what has been established as "natural" for them. Frequently, it's only because the story (and by extension, the writers) ''need'' them to act this way, or else the chosen plot/conflict for the episode won't happen.



Compare and contrast HanlonsRazor. See the BallIndex for similar forms of {{Out-of-Character Moment}}s

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* AlcoholInducedIdiocy
* AngstWhatAngst
* BullyingADragon
* ConflictBall



* FailedASpotCheck
* ForgotAboutHisPowers



* HollywoodTactics
* IdiotPlot
* JerkassBall
* LoveMakesYouDumb
* MistakenForIndex
** PoorCommunicationKills
** OutOfContextEavesdropping
* MuggingTheMonster
* OutOfCharacterMoment
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* LoveMakesYouDumb
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* OutOfCharacterMoment
* PhlebotinumInducedStupidity
* PingPongNaivete
* StupidityInducingAttack
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* TooDumbToLive



* WhatAnIdiot

This trope is the {{opposite|Tropes}} of SmartBall, and probably not closely related to SanityBall, AdvantageBall, HappyFunBall, or MasqueradeBall. And not even ''remotely'' related to TimeyWimeyBall.

Compare and contrast HanlonsRazor.

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* WhatAnIdiot

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This trope is the {{opposite|Tropes}} of SmartBall, and probably not closely related to SanityBall, AdvantageBall, HappyFunBall, or MasqueradeBall. And not even ''remotely'' related to TimeyWimeyBall.

SmartBall.

Compare and contrast HanlonsRazor. \n See the BallIndex for similar forms of {{Out-of-Character Moment}}s
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Idiot Balls can also deflect a boring InvincibleHero, which is positive for an audience reaction. There is nothing like a "Why on earth did he do that?" to get the fans talking about the show after it's over. However, Idiot Balls can be ''[[BadWritingIndex really]]'' bad when it's caused by CharacterDerailment (or vice versa).

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Idiot Balls can also deflect a boring InvincibleHero, which is positive for an audience reaction. There is nothing like a "Why on earth did he do that?" to get the fans talking about the show after it's over. However, Idiot Balls can be ''[[BadWritingIndex really]]'' bad when it's caused by CharacterDerailment (or vice versa).\n
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'''Anakin:''' [[DeadpanSnarker Apparently not...]]

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[[quoteright:234:[[WesternAnimation/SpongebobSquarepants http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/IdiotBall.jpg]]]]
[[caption-width-right:234:[[OurLawyersAdvisedThisTrope WARNING]]: Prolonged exposure to the idiot ball can cause [[WhatAnIdiot severely reduced intelligence]], [[NoSocialSkills complete social ineptitude]], \\
[[TooDumbToLive and most likely]] [[BreadEggsMilkSquick death]].]]

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This trope is the {{opposite|Tropes}} of SmartBall, and probably not closely related to SanityBall, AdvantageBall, or HappyFunBall. And not even ''remotely'' related to MasqueradeBall or TimeyWimeyBall.

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This trope is the {{opposite|Tropes}} of SmartBall, and probably not closely related to SanityBall, AdvantageBall, HappyFunBall, or HappyFunBall. MasqueradeBall. And not even ''remotely'' related to MasqueradeBall or TimeyWimeyBall.
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This trope is the {{opposite|Tropes}} of SmartBall, and probably not closely related to SanityBall, HappyFunBall, or AdvantageBall. And not even ''remotely'' related to the TimeyWimeyBall.

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This trope is the {{opposite|Tropes}} of SmartBall, and probably not closely related to SanityBall, HappyFunBall, AdvantageBall, or AdvantageBall. HappyFunBall. And not even ''remotely'' related to the MasqueradeBall or TimeyWimeyBall.
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[[TooDumbToLive and]] [[BreadEggsMilkSquick death]].]]

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[[TooDumbToLive and]] and most likely]] [[BreadEggsMilkSquick death]].]]
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->'''Obi-Wan:''' (trapped ''[trapped in ray shield) shields]'' Wait a minute. How did this happen? We're smarter than this.\\



-->-- ''Franchise/StarWars [[Film/RevengeOfTheSith Episode III: Revenge of the Sith]]''

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