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15th Apr '18 4:04:33 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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** The DirtyCoward Wormtail attaches himself to "the biggest bully in the playground". The BigBad even calls him on this:

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** The DirtyCoward Wormtail attaches himself to "the biggest bully in the playground". The playground"; the BigBad even calls him on this:
25th Mar '18 8:33:36 PM thatother1dude
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* Thorkell in ''Manga/VinlandSaga'' repeatedly inverts this trope, in that he tends to join the weakest side [[BloodKnight because the stronger side is funnier to fight.]] He ends up [[spoiler:playing it straight after being beaten up by Thorfinn and then stared down by Canute]] -- of course, the fact that the latter has proclaimed that he's going to pick a fight with [[spoiler:the King of Denmark]] may also be a contributing factor.

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* Thorkell in ''Manga/VinlandSaga'' repeatedly inverts this trope, in that he tends to join the weakest side [[BloodKnight because the stronger side is funnier more fun to fight.]] He ends up [[spoiler:playing it straight after being beaten up by Thorfinn and then stared down by Canute]] -- of course, the fact that the latter has proclaimed that he's going to pick a fight with [[spoiler:the King of Denmark]] may also be a contributing factor.
16th Mar '18 6:44:48 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': House Tyrell and their vassals will always back the winning team and will drop anyone at the drop of a hat if they become a liability. If both sides of a war appear to be evenly matched they'll simply stay out of it. The one time they stayed loyal to anyone they lost a war.

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House Tyrell and their vassals will always back the winning team and will drop anyone at the drop of a hat if they become a liability. If both sides of a war appear to be evenly matched they'll simply stay out of it. The one time they stayed loyal to anyone they lost a war.war.
** Why nearly fifty thousand barbarian warriors follow Daenerys. The Dothraki only fear three things. The poison salt water, lightning storm fires on the Great Grass Sea and of course by extension; ''dragons''. Dany is not only able to walk through the biggest threat to their way of life; which causes all their warriors and shamans to kowtow in reverence. But is topped even further when her mount is revealed to be the largest dragon left in existence, effectively making Dany the greatest rider who ever lived in their history. They follow her easily over the sea after all that and obey her without question.
10th Mar '18 4:59:33 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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* Inverted by the god Skaen in ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity''. The god of hatred, resentment, and quiet loathing, he'll abandon any followers who become too powerful, favoring only those who are both oppressed and willing to bargain with a creature as bloodthirsty as Skaen.

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* Inverted by the god Skaen in ''VideoGame/PillarsOfEternity''. The god of hatred, resentment, and quiet loathing, he'll and -- most importantly -- rebellion, he will abandon any followers who of his once they fulfil their ambitions or otherwise become too powerful, favoring only those who are both oppressed and willing to bargain with a creature as bloodthirsty as Skaen.
8th Mar '18 7:09:09 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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** {{Magic wand}}s in the Franchise/PotterVerse function as LoyalPhlebotinum for their specific owners but may switch allegiance via YouKillItYouBoughtIt. For some especially fickle wands like the legendarily powerful Elder Wand, you don't even need to kill anyone; beating the owner in a WizardDuel can work just as well even if nobody dies. Granted, winning a fair fight against the Elder Wand is nigh impossible (the only known instance when it ''might'' have happened is when [[spoiler:Albus Dumbledore]] defeated [[spoiler:Gellert Grindelwald]]), so acquiring it tends to entail murdering the owner outside the context of a duel. But you can also apparently wrest control of the wand by [[ToWinWithoutFighting disarming its owner before a fight can even begin]]. The Elder Wand can even shift loyalty ''by proxy'' if the owner loses a duel ''while using a different wand''. That's how fickle the Elder Wand is, people.

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** {{Magic wand}}s in the Franchise/PotterVerse function as LoyalPhlebotinum for their specific owners but may switch allegiance via YouKillItYouBoughtIt. For some especially fickle wands like the legendarily powerful Elder Wand, you don't even need to kill anyone; beating the owner in a WizardDuel can work just as well even if nobody dies. Granted, winning a fair fight against acquiring the Elder Wand in particular tends to entail murdering the owner outside the context of a duel, since beating it in a fair fight is nigh impossible (the impossible, the only known instance when it ''might'' have happened is being when [[spoiler:Albus Dumbledore]] defeated [[spoiler:Gellert Grindelwald]]), so acquiring it tends to entail murdering Grindelwald]] (even then, we don't know the owner outside the context of a duel.exact details on how it happened). But you can also apparently wrest control of the wand by [[ToWinWithoutFighting disarming its owner before a fight can even begin]]. The Elder Wand can even shift loyalty ''by proxy'' if the owner loses a duel ''while using a different wand''. That's how fickle the Elder Wand is, people.
8th Mar '18 6:48:09 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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* The DirtyCoward Wormtail in ''Literature/HarryPotter'' attaches himself to "the biggest bully in the playground." The BigBad even calls him on this: ''"Your devotion is nothing more than cowardice. You would not be here if you had anywhere else to go."''

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The DirtyCoward Wormtail in ''Literature/HarryPotter'' attaches himself to "the biggest bully in the playground." playground". The BigBad even calls him on this: ''"Your this:
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devotion is nothing more than cowardice. You would not be here if you had anywhere else to go."''''
** {{Magic wand}}s in the Franchise/PotterVerse function as LoyalPhlebotinum for their specific owners but may switch allegiance via YouKillItYouBoughtIt. For some especially fickle wands like the legendarily powerful Elder Wand, you don't even need to kill anyone; beating the owner in a WizardDuel can work just as well even if nobody dies. Granted, winning a fair fight against the Elder Wand is nigh impossible (the only known instance when it ''might'' have happened is when [[spoiler:Albus Dumbledore]] defeated [[spoiler:Gellert Grindelwald]]), so acquiring it tends to entail murdering the owner outside the context of a duel. But you can also apparently wrest control of the wand by [[ToWinWithoutFighting disarming its owner before a fight can even begin]]. The Elder Wand can even shift loyalty ''by proxy'' if the owner loses a duel ''while using a different wand''. That's how fickle the Elder Wand is, people.
13th Feb '18 8:28:53 AM AFreakyDude
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* The reason why Wrestling/KurtAngle betrayed Wrestling/{{WWE}} to join Wrestling/TheAlliance, saying that he represents everything great about America; he is a winner, and he fights for the winning side. This was [[SubvertedTrope subverted]] at Wrestling/SurvivorSeries 2001, as he was actually Wrestling/VinceMcMahon’s [[TheMole mole]] and cost the Alliance everything in their WinnerTakeAll match.
10th Dec '17 10:58:50 AM nombretomado
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* Saïx in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' outright says that TheHeartless ally with whoever's strongest, though this refers not to them making peace with or joining [[TheHero Sora]] (which would be...[[AlwaysChaoticEvil problematic]] on several levels), but to them ditching [[Disney/SleepingBeauty Maleficent]] and the DisneyAnimatedCanon villains for the EvilerThanThou Organization XIII.

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* Saïx in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsII'' outright says that TheHeartless ally with whoever's strongest, though this refers not to them making peace with or joining [[TheHero Sora]] (which would be...[[AlwaysChaoticEvil problematic]] on several levels), but to them ditching [[Disney/SleepingBeauty Maleficent]] and the DisneyAnimatedCanon Franchise/DisneyAnimatedCanon villains for the EvilerThanThou Organization XIII.
23rd Nov '17 9:47:41 AM Grudgeal
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* Lantry and Kills-in-Shadow joins your party for this reason in ''VideoGame/{{Tyranny}}''. In Lantry's case it's because he's a TagalongChronicler who believes in Great Person History, and thus attaches himself to interesting/strong people because they tend to shape interesting history to chronicle ([[IOweYouMyLife that you saved his life helps, too]]). Kills-in-Shadow, meanwhile, is a [[BeastMan Beastwoman]], and in their society a leader must be strong. In fact, a great way to increase Killsy's Loyalty to you is to ''insist'', upon meeting her, [[LetsYouAndHimFight that you should fight so you can prove your strength to her]].

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* Lantry and Kills-in-Shadow joins your party for this reason in ''VideoGame/{{Tyranny}}''. In Lantry's case it's because he's a TagalongChronicler who believes in Great Person History, and thus attaches himself to interesting/strong people because they tend to shape interesting history to chronicle ([[IOweYouMyLife that you saved his life helps, too]]). Kills-in-Shadow, meanwhile, is a [[BeastMan Beastwoman]], and [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority in their society a leader must be strong.strong]] -- Killsy just applies the same logic to a non-beastman (you). In fact, a great way to increase Killsy's Loyalty to you is to ''insist'', upon meeting her, [[LetsYouAndHimFight that you should fight so you can prove your strength to her]].
23rd Nov '17 9:43:53 AM Grudgeal
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* Lantry and Kills-in-Shadow joins your party for this reason in ''VideoGame/{{Tyranny}}''. In Lantry's case it's because he's a TagalongChronicler who believes in Great Person History, and thus attaches himself to interesting/strong people because they tend to shape interesting history to chronicle ([[IOweYouMyLife that you saved his life helps, too]]). Kills-in-Shadow, meanwhile, is a [[BeastMan Beastwoman]], and in their society a leader must be strong. In fact, a great way to increase Killsy's Loyalty to you is to ''insist'', upon meeting her, [[LetsYouAndHimFight that you should fight so you can prove your strength to her]].
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