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23rd Mar '17 3:47:13 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Ned and Davos both tell their kings what they need to hear, not what they want to hear.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Ned and Davos both tell their kings what they need to hear, not what they want to hear. Ned telling Robert "You're too fat for your armour!" isn't a comment Robert would've accepted from many people and least of all would have laughed at. This is also the reason why Robert asks him to join up as Hand of the King.
26th Jan '17 7:45:46 PM NondescriptLarva
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** Parliamentary governments, in particular, enshrine the 'honest advisor' position in their very function: in the parliamentary system, the opposition party's traditional responsibility is to challenge new bills and policy proposal to reveal unexpected loopholes and ensure that they stand up to close scrutiny.
26th Jan '17 1:35:38 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Ned and Davos both tell their kings what they need to hear, not what they want to hear.
25th Dec '16 9:32:15 AM Hanz
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* Despite his name, Yes Man of ''Videogame/FalloutNewVegas'' is capable of telling the player when they make decisions that he considers strategically unwise, ranging from allying/ignoring factions he considers potential threats (most notably the Brotherhood of Steel) to even destroying your SealedArmyInACan. Granted, he tends to be somewhat passive-aggressive regarding most of his criticisms, but he'll still make it clear what he thinks.
4th Dec '16 12:25:57 PM MrThorfan64
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** [[DeadpanSnarker Tyrion]] [[TheTrickster Lannister]] is an errant Honest Advisor (with no fixed advisee, let alone abode) who shamelessly uses the contempt others hold for his being a dwarf to act the role of TheJester when needed: from Jon Snow to Caitlyn Stark, his own father, his sister and brother, Joffrey (comes with free insults) and anybody else he comes in range of, he can and will give blunt, honest (various shades of), well-thought-out (given what he knows) and ''accurately'' on the nose advise along with the cutting humour and wordplay. [[DeconstructedTrope However, it comes back to bite him, as snarktastic advice can be made to sound like a threat if a wounded party chooses to make it appear that way.]]

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** [[DeadpanSnarker Tyrion]] [[TheTrickster Lannister]] is an errant Honest Advisor (with no fixed advisee, let alone abode) who shamelessly uses the contempt others hold for his being a dwarf to act the role of TheJester when needed: from Jon Snow to Caitlyn Catelyn Stark, his own father, his sister and brother, Joffrey (comes with free insults) and anybody else he comes in range of, he can and will give blunt, honest (various shades of), well-thought-out (given what he knows) and ''accurately'' on the nose advise along with the cutting humour and wordplay. [[DeconstructedTrope However, it comes back to bite him, as snarktastic advice can be made to sound like a threat if a wounded party chooses to make it appear that way.]]]] There's also the fact Tyrion is knowingly helping out a tyrannical and usurping regime as he's related to them, despite his claims to [[TokenGoodTeammate help the common people]] he knows full well Lannister rule is horribly oppressive to the smallfolk.
5th Nov '16 12:34:35 PM nombretomado
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* ''The InspectorLynley Mysteries'': DS Barbara Havers is this to her partner, DI Lynley. Although it took her some time to earn the position, by the end of season two she can get away with saying things no one else could because she has earned his trust repeatedly over the course of their partnership, and though he might snap at her, she knows that's as far as it will go.

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* ''The InspectorLynley Mysteries'': ''Series/TheInspectorLynleyMysteries'': DS Barbara Havers is this to her partner, DI Lynley. Although it took her some time to earn the position, by the end of season two she can get away with saying things no one else could because she has earned his trust repeatedly over the course of their partnership, and though he might snap at her, she knows that's as far as it will go.
30th Oct '16 3:18:42 PM nombretomado
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* In Creator/MercedesLackey's ''HeraldsOfValdemar'' books, it is built into the Heraldic system that the King or Queen always has a Monarch's Own Herald, ready to serve as trustworthy friend, confidant, and brutally honest advisor if needed. Part of their purpose is to call the Monarch out on anything questionable, stupid, or pointless they try to do. The breakdown of this relationship between Queen Selenay and Queen's Own Herald Talamir causes numerous political problems and plot points in the main time period covered by the books.

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* In Creator/MercedesLackey's ''HeraldsOfValdemar'' ''Literature/HeraldsOfValdemar'' books, it is built into the Heraldic system that the King or Queen always has a Monarch's Own Herald, ready to serve as trustworthy friend, confidant, and brutally honest advisor if needed. Part of their purpose is to call the Monarch out on anything questionable, stupid, or pointless they try to do. The breakdown of this relationship between Queen Selenay and Queen's Own Herald Talamir causes numerous political problems and plot points in the main time period covered by the books.
19th Oct '16 6:12:23 AM Andyroid
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* Applejack from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' ''would'' be this if she had any interest in politics. However, she played one in the [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E13HearthsWarmingEve Christmas episode]]. TheLeader she served was such an arrogant [[TheCaligula nutjob]] that she had long since degenerated into a DeadpanSnarker.

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* Applejack from ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' ''would'' be this if she had any interest in politics. However, she played one in the pageant from the [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E13HearthsWarmingEve Christmas episode]]. TheLeader she served episode]], Smart Cookie. Her boss Chancellor Puddinghead was such an arrogant [[TheCaligula nutjob]] that she Smart Cookie had long since degenerated into a DeadpanSnarker.
1st Sep '16 9:09:41 AM storymasterb
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** Roboute Guilliman, Primarch of the Ultramarines, kept his old nanny around (her life extended via rejuvenat treatments) because he knew she would tell him the things he didn't want to hear.
17th Jul '16 3:39:11 PM DarkHunter
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* [[Series/TheXFactor Simon]] [[Series/AmericanIdol Cowell]]: "I'm not being rude, but..." He wasn't interested in making friends or sparing feelings; he often delivered hard truths the contestants needed to hear as they'd likely had a lifetime of coddling by people more interested in stroking their ego than nurturing any talent they might have had.

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* [[Series/TheXFactor Simon]] [[Series/AmericanIdol Cowell]]: "I'm not being rude, but..." He wasn't interested in making friends or sparing feelings; he often delivered hard truths the contestants needed to hear as they'd likely had a lifetime of coddling by people more interested in stroking their ego than nurturing any talent they might have had. On the other hand, it has often been said that if Simon gives someone praise, then they probably really deserved it and had some real talent.
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