History Main / HollywoodPsych

21st Apr '18 11:13:20 PM nombretomado
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** The word "psychotic" itself has become ''the'' diagnosis of HollywoodPsych. It's usually used as a blanket term for "crazy", where "crazy" itself mostly consists of "murderous and loving it". Psychosis is medically defined as "a loss of contact with reality", which can manifest as delusions, hallucinations, or "disordered thinking"; in fact, it's usually a symptom of another disorder (or even just heavy drinking) than the problem in and of itself. It is possible for psychotics to be dangerous as a result of their disconnect from reality, but being psychotic does not automatically mean being dangerous, and vice versa. In [[LaymansTerms Troper's terms]]: [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Pinkie Pie]] and WebAnimation/HomestarRunner are psychotics; [[Literature/{{Discworld}} Carcer Dun]] and [[TheSilenceOfTheLambs Hannibal Lecter]] are not.

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** The word "psychotic" itself has become ''the'' diagnosis of HollywoodPsych. It's usually used as a blanket term for "crazy", where "crazy" itself mostly consists of "murderous and loving it". Psychosis is medically defined as "a loss of contact with reality", which can manifest as delusions, hallucinations, or "disordered thinking"; in fact, it's usually a symptom of another disorder (or even just heavy drinking) than the problem in and of itself. It is possible for psychotics to be dangerous as a result of their disconnect from reality, but being psychotic does not automatically mean being dangerous, and vice versa. In [[LaymansTerms Troper's terms]]: [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Pinkie Pie]] and WebAnimation/HomestarRunner are psychotics; [[Literature/{{Discworld}} Carcer Dun]] and [[TheSilenceOfTheLambs [[Literature/TheSilenceOfTheLambs Hannibal Lecter]] are not.
7th Apr '18 5:13:37 PM nombretomado
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** In fact, ''Criminal Minds'' as a whole is really bad about this. The majority of the psychology on the show is either out of date, misapplied, grossly exaggerated, or just flat out wrong, which can result in a lot of exasperation for psychologists watching the show. The most {{egregious}} of these is the premise of criminal profiling itself, which has been shown more than once to be inaccurate to the point that lay people do just as well on it as professionals.

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** In fact, ''Criminal Minds'' as a whole is really bad about this. The majority of the psychology on the show is either out of date, misapplied, grossly exaggerated, or just flat out wrong, which can result in a lot of exasperation for psychologists watching the show. The most {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} of these is the premise of criminal profiling itself, which has been shown more than once to be inaccurate to the point that lay people do just as well on it as professionals.
12th Mar '18 4:57:51 PM AHI-3000
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** FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse
26th Feb '18 11:19:04 AM DoctorDetective
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** One Brazilian official nearly refused to allow a simple fire drill to occur because he was worried people would bite off their own tongues in panic. [[PotHole It went no differently than if it were held in Great Britain]]. This was remarkably common in North America before the Our Lady of Angels school fire.

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** One Brazilian official nearly refused to allow a simple fire drill to occur because he was worried people would bite off their own tongues in panic. [[PotHole It went no differently than if it were held in Great Britain]].Britain. This was remarkably common in North America before the Our Lady of Angels school fire.
7th Nov '17 10:08:08 AM Doug86
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* The arc in ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'' where Emma Frost seduced Scott Summers, is a clear case of bad psychiatry (probably an intentional one). Not only was she treating him when she made advances, when Jean brought up that her husband was being taken advantage of to Xavier, who has [[InformedAbility been an actual psychiatrist]] for years, he tells Jean she is overreacting, and doesn't even consider Emma just might be violating ethics. And as a double blow to actual psychiatry, Scott is now portrayed in a happy relationship with Emma.

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* The arc in ''Comicbook/{{X-Men}}'' ''Comicbook/XMen'' where Emma Frost seduced Scott Summers, is a clear case of bad psychiatry (probably an intentional one). Not only was she treating him when she made advances, when Jean brought up that her husband was being taken advantage of to Xavier, who has [[InformedAbility been an actual psychiatrist]] for years, he tells Jean she is overreacting, and doesn't even consider Emma just might be violating ethics. And as a double blow to actual psychiatry, Scott is now portrayed in a happy relationship with Emma.
22nd Sep '17 8:59:00 PM InsanityPrelude
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* The entire movie ''Film/BenX'' is built around this trope, showing how patients with Asperger's supposedly can't function without a minute-to-minute schedule, have extremely vivid hallucinations, are incapable of something as simple as taking a train, and can't interact with other human beings ''at all''. The film was praised for its accuracy.



* Christopher Boone of ''[[Literature/TheCuriousIncidentOfTheDogInTheNightTime The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time]]'' fame has either UsefulNotes/AspergerSyndrome or high-functioning Kanner's autism (it's never totally clear), but either way, it's stereotype city. Christopher has no emotions, no personal insight, no empathy, virtually no social skills at all, and is obsessed with- you guessed it, maths and science, which he understands to crazy savant levels. Despite his intelligence, however, he doesn't seem to know what commas are for as he writes in big long 'and then' lists, stating things that are happening around him but never elaborating on them. [[http://iautistic.com/autism-myths-the-curious-incident-of-the-dog-in-the-night-time.php This article]] goes into it more fully.
** Then again, Mark Haddon, the author, never intended to define Christopher as explicitly autistic, and doesn't really care for attempts to label him as such. Indeed, he never uses the term in the book, and no one in the novel (not even Christopher himself) ever brings up exactly ''what'' his condition is.
* The ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'''s Altogether Andrews probably suffers from DID, or something like it. He has eight different personalities, and none of them answer to "Andrews". He seems to get along with his beggar compatriots okay, except for the personality answering to "Burke"; he's not described in detail, but it's not pretty. Aside from the fact that Burke is said to be "kept buried by the other personalities", there's no indication that the different personalities are aware of one another.\\
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One other character puts forward the theory that he was just a meek individual with psychic inclinations who was overwhelmed by other personalities squatting in his head. Supported by the one piece of evidence (aside from the other seven personalities "keeping Burke buried") that they actually are aware of one another; when the Canting Crew puts in a vote for something, Andrews hesitates for a moment, then raises "five democratic fingers", and the Duck Man declares that "the ayes have it".



* Almost every attempt to portray more severe Kanner's autism tends to be a cutesy-poo VerySpecialEpisode about a Mother struggling with her non-verbal child. The aim is usually to either find a cure, show people how angelic (or ax crazy, it depends on the writer) autistic children are or just highlight the turmoil these families go through. Good luck trying to find anything that has a non-verbal autistic person as the main character. This is perhaps one of the worse examples, as non-verbal autistic people are often, despite appearances, perfectly aware of their surroundings, and perfectly capable of rational thought. However, this doesn't sell as well, so it rarely comes up in any form of media, and as a result, most people think that low-functioning autism = no awareness whatsoever.
17th Sep '17 9:31:37 AM nombretomado
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* Christopher Boone of ''[[Literature/TheCuriousIncidentOfTheDogInTheNightTime The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time]]'' fame has either AspergerSyndrome or high-functioning Kanner's autism (it's never totally clear), but either way, it's stereotype city. Christopher has no emotions, no personal insight, no empathy, virtually no social skills at all, and is obsessed with- you guessed it, maths and science, which he understands to crazy savant levels. Despite his intelligence, however, he doesn't seem to know what commas are for as he writes in big long 'and then' lists, stating things that are happening around him but never elaborating on them. [[http://iautistic.com/autism-myths-the-curious-incident-of-the-dog-in-the-night-time.php This article]] goes into it more fully.

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* Christopher Boone of ''[[Literature/TheCuriousIncidentOfTheDogInTheNightTime The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time]]'' fame has either AspergerSyndrome UsefulNotes/AspergerSyndrome or high-functioning Kanner's autism (it's never totally clear), but either way, it's stereotype city. Christopher has no emotions, no personal insight, no empathy, virtually no social skills at all, and is obsessed with- you guessed it, maths and science, which he understands to crazy savant levels. Despite his intelligence, however, he doesn't seem to know what commas are for as he writes in big long 'and then' lists, stating things that are happening around him but never elaborating on them. [[http://iautistic.com/autism-myths-the-curious-incident-of-the-dog-in-the-night-time.php This article]] goes into it more fully.
10th Sep '17 11:42:22 PM Silverblade2
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** According to the "[[InformedAbility doctors]]" in this work, SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker is not insane (a legal term, that one won't find a mental health professional saying in that context) but Supersane! Yes it's a condition similar to [[HollywoodTourettes Tourette's]]! You know what else? It's a load of bullshit! Creator/GrantMorrison might as well have a physicist claiming that black holes happen because people fart while sleeping because of String Theory. To be fair most interpret this as a way to show that the doctors in Arkham are a bunch of quacks and that they are the reason no one ever gets better in Arkham; this hasn't stopped a sizable part of the fanbase to adopt it as [[ComicallyMissingThePoint an accurate interpretation of the Joker's psyche]] though.

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** According to the "[[InformedAbility doctors]]" in this work, SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker is not insane (a legal term, that one won't find a mental health professional saying in that context) but Supersane! Yes it's a condition similar to [[HollywoodTourettes Tourette's]]! You know what else? It's a load of bullshit! Creator/GrantMorrison might as well have a physicist claiming that black holes happen because people fart while sleeping because of String Theory. To be fair most interpret this as a way to show that the doctors in Arkham are a bunch of quacks and that they are the reason no one ever gets better in Arkham; this hasn't stopped a sizable part of the fanbase to adopt it as [[ComicallyMissingThePoint an accurate interpretation of the Joker's psyche]] though.
24th Aug '17 11:56:35 AM CosmicFerret
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* Averted in ''Series/TheFlash'', when a criminal psychologist gives a deadpan assessment of the loss and guilt, narcissism, and worship of law and order figures that would motivate a costumed vigilante like the Flash.

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* Averted in ''Series/TheFlash'', ''Series/TheFlash2014'', when a criminal psychologist gives a deadpan assessment of the loss and guilt, narcissism, and worship of law and order figures that would motivate a costumed vigilante like the Flash.
20th May '17 5:46:41 PM nombretomado
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* [[TheWoobie Karla Bentham]] from the third season of ''WaterlooRoad'' is a sympathetic version [[RippedFromTheHeadlines (created to highlight the issues surrounding adolescent mental health]], which she does well), but still has a condition that less resembles Asperger's than ADHD with elements of OCD and generalized anxiety disorder.

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* [[TheWoobie Karla Bentham]] from the third season of ''WaterlooRoad'' ''Series/WaterlooRoad'' is a sympathetic version [[RippedFromTheHeadlines (created to highlight the issues surrounding adolescent mental health]], which she does well), but still has a condition that less resembles Asperger's than ADHD with elements of OCD and generalized anxiety disorder.
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