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18th Sep '17 2:50:51 PM ultimomant
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* In ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' episode [[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS2E65TheObsoleteMan The Obsolete Man]], the Chancellor (and by extension the State) are pretty extreme examples, given that they not only declare God does not exist, but run a murderous totalitarian dictatorship which outlaws religion entirely, along with killing anyone whom they deem "obsolete" (people who believe in God presumably are included) especially in contrast with the saintly Christian character Wordsworth. Given this was in the Cold War era, it may have been a TakeThat regarding the officially atheist communist states, who persecuted religious people... and everyone else who didn't obey them. They even claim to have ''proven'' that the State has ''proven'' that he doesnt exist. They dont say HOW they did that, but presumably few people are going to argue with them. Naturally, Wordsworth denies they can prove such a thing (at this point he's been sentenced to death anyway).

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* In ''Series/TheTwilightZone'' episode [[Recap/TheTwilightZoneS2E65TheObsoleteMan The Obsolete Man]], the Chancellor (and by extension the State) are pretty extreme examples, given that they not only declare God does not exist, but run a murderous totalitarian dictatorship which outlaws religion entirely, along with killing anyone whom they deem "obsolete" (people who believe in God presumably are included) especially in contrast with the saintly Christian character Wordsworth. Given this was in the Cold War era, it may have been a TakeThat regarding the officially atheist communist states, who persecuted religious people... and everyone else who didn't obey them. They even claim to have ''proven'' that the State has ''proven'' that he doesnt exist. They dont say HOW they did that, but presumably few people are going to argue with them. Naturally, Wordsworth denies they can prove such a thing (at this point he's been sentenced to death anyway).



-->Catelyn Stark: Because of men like you.

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-->Catelyn Stark: -->'''Catelyn Stark''': Because of men like you.
13th Sep '17 2:17:17 PM Fireblood
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* ''Literature/SeekerBears'': A group of adolescent male polar bear cubs appear in ''Great Bear Lake'' who don't believe in or respect the Spirits. They don't abide by the rules of the Longest Day (a largely religion holiday) either. They're mean, brutish bullies who steal from other bears and [[spoiler:try to take over the black bears territory]]. [[spoiler:Kallik's presumed-dead brother Taqqiq is amongst them, though he seems to be a NayTheist and later betrays his friends]].

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* ''Literature/SeekerBears'': A group of adolescent male polar bear cubs appear in ''Great Bear Lake'' who don't believe in or respect the Spirits. They don't abide by the rules of the Longest Day (a largely religion religious holiday) either. They're mean, brutish bullies who steal from other bears and [[spoiler:try to take over the black bears territory]]. [[spoiler:Kallik's presumed-dead brother Taqqiq is amongst them, though he seems to be a NayTheist and later betrays his friends]].
13th Sep '17 9:57:25 AM Pichu-kun
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* ''Literature/SeekerBears'': A group of adolescent male polar bear cubs appear in ''Great Bear Lake'' who don't believe in or respect the Spirits. They don't abide by the rules of the Longest Day (a largely religion holiday) either. They're mean, brutish bullies who steal from other bears and [[spoiler:try to take over the black bears territory]]. [[spoiler:Kallik's presumed-dead brother Taqqiq is amongst them, though he seems to be a NayTheist and later betrays his friends]].
8th Sep '17 6:12:13 PM AdamC
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* Averted in ''Film/HotFuzz'' with protagonist Nicholas Angel, who says he's open to religion, though not entirely convinced in a brief conversation with the town vicar (leading the vicar to label him agnostic instead), and is the most morally upright person shown, to the point of following ''every'' rule to the letter.

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* Averted in ''Film/HotFuzz'' with protagonist Nicholas Angel, who says he's open to religion, though not entirely convinced in a brief conversation with the town vicar (leading the vicar to label him agnostic instead), and is the most morally upright person shown, to the point of following ''every'' rule to the letter. While the guy ''does'' have some issues (namely being a killjoy), he's never anything less than a hero.
30th Aug '17 8:52:44 PM CharlesPhipps
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** Catelyn Stark gives a pretty good ShutUpHannibal response.
-->Catelyn Stark: Because of men like you.
22nd Aug '17 3:10:28 PM Pichu-kun
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* ''Literature/WarriorCats'':
** Cloudtail is one of very few cats to not believe in [=StarClan=]. Despite [=StarClan=] being a proven fact, [[FlatEarthAtheist he doesn't believe in them]]. Since he was a young kit, Cloudtail was always a rude, troublemaking cat who [[BrutalHonesty spoke his mind]], didn't respect others, and didn't follow the Warrior Code well. Despite this, he is devoted to his clan nevertheless.
** Sleekwhisker and Needletail are two RebelliousSpirit [=ShadowClan=] cats who don't believe in [=StarClan=]. They're both mean, disrespectful of the Warrior Code, and [[BrutalHonesty blunt]].
** Mothwing has a naturalist view on [=StarClan=]. She especially stands out as she's an atheist ''medicinecat''. Medicinecats are supposed to have a close relationship to [=StarClan=]. This is essentially the equivalent of being an atheist priest or nun. Mothwing however subverts most of the aspects of a Hollywood Atheist. She's a nice cat [[spoiler:unlike her brother]] and doesn't have any traumatic reason to have lost her faith.
13th Aug '17 9:41:03 PM Fireblood
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* {{Averted}} by Roronoa Zoro in ''OnePiece'', who was revealed to be an atheist during the Skipeia arc, but not due to his tragic past, and has no problem at all with faith in general. It's just that BECAUSE he's seen so many strange and outlandish adventures that he considers it more likely that anything the can't explain is just another super power they haven't heard of yet as opposed to something caused by an actual God. Being able to rain down lightning on a whim doesn't look as divine after your crew has already spent time fighting a living sand storm and riding geysers into the sky. Furthermore, he also stated that if god did exist, he would like to meet him because he or she would be a WorthyOpponent. He's just that badass.

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* {{Averted}} by Roronoa Zoro in ''OnePiece'', who was revealed to be an atheist during the Skipeia arc, but not due to his tragic past, and has no problem at all with faith in general. It's just that BECAUSE he's seen so many strange and outlandish adventures that he considers it more likely that anything the can't explain is just another super power they haven't heard of yet as opposed to something caused by an actual God. Being able to rain down lightning on a whim doesn't look as divine after your crew has already spent time fighting a living sand storm and riding geysers into the sky. Furthermore, he also stated that if god God did exist, he would like to meet him because he or she would be a WorthyOpponent. He's just that badass.



* {{Subverted}} in ''Film/PitchBlack''. The imam thinks that Riddick is one of these. Riddick is in fact a NayTheist [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misotheist misotheist]] - one who believes in God, and hates Him.

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* {{Subverted}} in ''Film/PitchBlack''. The imam thinks that Riddick is one of these. Riddick is in fact a NayTheist NayTheist. or [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misotheist misotheist]] - one who believes in God, and hates Him.



* {{Averted}} in ''Film/TheIdesOfMarch'': George Clooney's character is openly non-religious and states he cannot know if God or an afterlife exist, but also acts non-bitter, is entirely respectful of others' belief and states in the film that even if he doesn't share your religion, he'd fight to the death for your right to hold it.

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* {{Averted}} Averted in ''Film/TheIdesOfMarch'': George Clooney's character is openly non-religious and states he cannot know if God or an afterlife exist, but also acts non-bitter, is entirely respectful of others' belief and states in the film that even if he doesn't share your religion, he'd fight to the death for your right to hold it.


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* ''Film/CityOfAngels'': Maggie is an atheist until she receives proof that an angel is real.
12th Aug '17 2:19:38 PM Fireblood
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Jaime seems to hold no faith for the Old Gods nor the New and seems to be disdainful of religious people, if his exchange with Catelyn is an indication. He even uses the old 'Problem of Evil' thing.
--> '''Jaime:''' If your gods are real, and if they're just, why is the world so full of injustice?



* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Jaime seems to hold no faith for the Old Gods nor the New and seems to be disdainful of religious people, if his exchange with Catelyn is an indication. He even uses the old 'Problem of Evil' issue.
--> '''Jaime:''' If your gods are real, and if they're just, why is the world so full of injustice?



* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Averted. Davos growing up in Flea Bottom and being told of some new "true god" in each new port he docked in made him consider that gods were something people made up to give themselves hope. This is in clear contrast to the Book canon, where Davos is the odd man out in Stannis's court not because he is an atheist, rather because he remains a firm believer in The Seven. Meanwhile, Thoros of Myr believed the gods were just something made up to scare children into being good. Thoros came to believe again after his prayer [[BackFromTheDead raised a man from the dead]], while Davos is more reluctant, though Stannis argues it would make no sense to disbelieve after what he's now seen Melisandre do. We're not shown what he thinks after this.

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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Averted. Davos growing Averted with Davos. Growing up in Flea Bottom and being told of some new "true god" in each new port he docked in made him consider that gods were something people made up to give themselves hope. This is in clear contrast to the Book canon, where Davos is the odd man out in Stannis's court not because he is an atheist, rather because he remains a firm believer in The Seven. Meanwhile, Thoros of Myr believed the gods were just something made up to scare children into being good. Thoros came to believe again after his prayer [[BackFromTheDead raised a man from the dead]], while Davos is more reluctant, though Stannis argues it would make no sense to disbelieve after what he's now seen Melisandre do. We're not shown what he thinks after this.
11th Aug '17 11:25:55 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Jaime seems to hold no faith for the Old Gods nor the New and seems to be disdainful of religious people, if his exchange with Catelyn is an indication. He even uses the old 'Problem of Evil' thing.
--> '''Jaime:''' If your gods are real, and if they're just, why is the world so full of injustice?
8th Aug '17 9:36:16 PM Fireblood
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* ''{{Film/Ida}}'': Wanda, who is a former Communist prosecutor notorious for condemning "Enemies of the People" to their deaths, lives a life of empty hedonism but appears very depressed. After finding out her sister, brother-in-law and son were all killed during World War Two, she loses any interest in living, killing herself.
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