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28th Jun '17 8:32:57 AM CurledUpWithDakka
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* ''Literature/TwentyYearsLater'' stops just short of making Charles I TheMessiah mk. II, both because it fits [[ValuesDissonance the ideals of the protagonists]] (such as seeing themselves as the last bastions of chivalry, defending royalty against a commoner uprising) and because it makes Mordaunt that much more of an AssholeVictim ([[spoiler:not only did he give Cromwell the idea of bribing the last of the king's loyal soldiers, he volunteered to be his executioner], all because the king had denied him his inheritance and title]).

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* ''Literature/TwentyYearsLater'' stops just short of making Charles I TheMessiah mk. II, both because it fits [[ValuesDissonance the ideals of the protagonists]] (such as seeing themselves as the last bastions of chivalry, defending royalty against a commoner uprising) and because it makes Mordaunt that much more of an AssholeVictim ([[spoiler:not only did he give Cromwell the idea of bribing the last of the king's loyal soldiers, he volunteered to be his executioner], executioner, all because the king had denied him his inheritance and title]).title]]).
25th Jun '17 1:20:02 PM nombretomado
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** Tiber Septim (aka Talos Stormcrown), ''was'' the first emperor to unite all of Tamriel and ''is'' held up as a paragon of the human races, especially by the Imperials and Nords. Following his death, he ''did'' [[DeityOfHumanOrigin become the god Talos]], WarGod and Good Governance, and even took the [[TopGod top spot as the chief deity]] on the Nordic pantheon. However, elements of his past are almost certainly embellished and/or outright fabricated as part of Imperial propaganda to appeal to the [[HornyVikings Nords]], whose support he badly needed in order to forge his empire. He may have had a hand in the assassination of King Cuhlecain (who he served as General) so that he could usurp the position. Many of his best known exploits can quite possibly be attributed to others (Wulfharth Ash-King, Zurin Artus) or, at the very least, his role in them was highly embellished. His legions were brutal in conquering Tamriel, committing many atrocities along the way (such as slaughtering the ruling family of Morrowind down to their young daughter). He almost certainly betrayed and killed one of his closest advisors (Zurin Arctus) in order to power the [[HumongousMecha Numidium]] to complete his conquests (and then had his propaganda machine paint ''Arctus'' as the villain). Of course, the worship of him isn't entirely unfounded, as there is evidence that he really did ascend to Godhood... and may be one of the last things holding Mundus together. Additionally, it is speculated that he may have used his divine powers post-apotheosis to ''[[RealityWarper alter reality]]'' to ''make'' [[CosmicRetcon his version of events "true"]].

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** Tiber Septim (aka Talos Stormcrown), ''was'' the first emperor to unite all of Tamriel and ''is'' held up as a paragon of the human races, especially by the Imperials and Nords. Following his death, he ''did'' [[DeityOfHumanOrigin become the god Talos]], WarGod [[WarGod God of War]] and Good Governance, and even took the [[TopGod top spot as the chief deity]] on the Nordic pantheon. However, elements of his past are almost certainly embellished and/or outright fabricated as part of Imperial propaganda to appeal to the [[HornyVikings Nords]], whose support he badly needed in order to forge his empire. He may have had a hand in the assassination of King Cuhlecain (who he served as General) so that he could usurp the position. Many of his best known exploits can quite possibly be attributed to others (Wulfharth Ash-King, Zurin Artus) or, at the very least, his role in them was highly embellished. His legions were brutal in conquering Tamriel, committing many atrocities along the way (such as slaughtering the ruling family of Morrowind down to their young daughter). He almost certainly betrayed and killed one of his closest advisors (Zurin Arctus) in order to power the [[HumongousMecha Numidium]] to complete his conquests (and then had his propaganda machine paint ''Arctus'' as the villain). Of course, the worship of him isn't entirely unfounded, as there is evidence that he really did ascend to Godhood... and may be one of the last things holding Mundus together. Additionally, it is speculated that he may have used his divine powers post-apotheosis to ''[[RealityWarper alter reality]]'' to ''make'' [[CosmicRetcon his version of events "true"]].
25th Jun '17 1:19:52 PM nombretomado
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** Tiber Septim (aka Talos Stormcrown), ''was'' the first emperor to unite all of Tamriel and ''is'' held up as a paragon of the human races, especially by the Imperials and Nords. Following his death, he ''did'' [[DeityOfHumanOrigin become the god Talos]], GodOfWar and Good Governance, and even took the [[TopGod top spot as the chief deity]] on the Nordic pantheon. However, elements of his past are almost certainly embellished and/or outright fabricated as part of Imperial propaganda to appeal to the [[HornyVikings Nords]], whose support he badly needed in order to forge his empire. He may have had a hand in the assassination of King Cuhlecain (who he served as General) so that he could usurp the position. Many of his best known exploits can quite possibly be attributed to others (Wulfharth Ash-King, Zurin Artus) or, at the very least, his role in them was highly embellished. His legions were brutal in conquering Tamriel, committing many atrocities along the way (such as slaughtering the ruling family of Morrowind down to their young daughter). He almost certainly betrayed and killed one of his closest advisors (Zurin Arctus) in order to power the [[HumongousMecha Numidium]] to complete his conquests (and then had his propaganda machine paint ''Arctus'' as the villain). Of course, the worship of him isn't entirely unfounded, as there is evidence that he really did ascend to Godhood... and may be one of the last things holding Mundus together. Additionally, it is speculated that he may have used his divine powers post-apotheosis to ''[[RealityWarper alter reality]]'' to ''make'' [[CosmicRetcon his version of events "true"]].

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** Tiber Septim (aka Talos Stormcrown), ''was'' the first emperor to unite all of Tamriel and ''is'' held up as a paragon of the human races, especially by the Imperials and Nords. Following his death, he ''did'' [[DeityOfHumanOrigin become the god Talos]], GodOfWar WarGod and Good Governance, and even took the [[TopGod top spot as the chief deity]] on the Nordic pantheon. However, elements of his past are almost certainly embellished and/or outright fabricated as part of Imperial propaganda to appeal to the [[HornyVikings Nords]], whose support he badly needed in order to forge his empire. He may have had a hand in the assassination of King Cuhlecain (who he served as General) so that he could usurp the position. Many of his best known exploits can quite possibly be attributed to others (Wulfharth Ash-King, Zurin Artus) or, at the very least, his role in them was highly embellished. His legions were brutal in conquering Tamriel, committing many atrocities along the way (such as slaughtering the ruling family of Morrowind down to their young daughter). He almost certainly betrayed and killed one of his closest advisors (Zurin Arctus) in order to power the [[HumongousMecha Numidium]] to complete his conquests (and then had his propaganda machine paint ''Arctus'' as the villain). Of course, the worship of him isn't entirely unfounded, as there is evidence that he really did ascend to Godhood... and may be one of the last things holding Mundus together. Additionally, it is speculated that he may have used his divine powers post-apotheosis to ''[[RealityWarper alter reality]]'' to ''make'' [[CosmicRetcon his version of events "true"]].
18th Jun '17 6:14:13 PM NoNamesEver
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* {{UsefulNotes/Spartacus}}, the DoomedMoralVictor of the last known great slave revolts in Rome is often constantly portrayed a hero who fought for the freedom of fellow slaves. While the original motive was simply to escape. Their last stand at the hands of Roman Legions led by Crassius will be forever remembered as a heroic stand against slavery as popularized by {{Film/Spartacus}} and ''SpartacusBloodAndSand''
* {{UsefulNotes/SanadaYukimura}} is often celebrated as a folk hero for his legendary skills as a warrior and has always received a near universally positive portrayal in any work he is in as a youthful samurai with undying loyalty to Takeda Shingen and later Hideyoshi Toyotomi. His last stand at Osaka is always played straight however, depicting a tragic fight to serve his lord no matter the cost. Such efforts have immortalized in him games like SamuraiWarriors and Sanadamaru.

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* {{UsefulNotes/Spartacus}}, ''{{UsefulNotes/Spartacus}}'', the DoomedMoralVictor of the last known great slave revolts in Rome is often constantly portrayed a hero who fought for the freedom of fellow slaves. While the original motive was simply to escape. Their last stand at the hands of Roman Legions led by Crassius will be forever remembered as a heroic stand against slavery as popularized by {{Film/Spartacus}} and ''SpartacusBloodAndSand''
* {{UsefulNotes/SanadaYukimura}} {{UsefulNotes/Sanada Yukimura}} is often celebrated as a folk hero for his legendary skills as a warrior and has always received a near universally positive portrayal in any work he is in as a youthful samurai with undying loyalty to Takeda Shingen and later Hideyoshi Toyotomi. His last stand at Osaka is always played straight however, straight, depicting a tragic fight to serve his lord no matter the cost. cost as he made his suicidal charge to face Tokugawa. Such efforts have immortalized in him games like SamuraiWarriors ''SamuraiWarriors'' and Sanadamaru.''{{Sanadamaru}}''.
18th Jun '17 6:13:16 PM NoNamesEver
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* {{UsefulNotes/Spartacus}}, the DoomedMoralVictor of the last known great slave revolts in Rome is often constantly portrayed a hero who fought for the freedom of fellow slaves. While the original motive was simply to escape. Their last stand at the hands of Roman Legions led by Crassius will be forever remembered as a heroic stand against slavery as popularized by {{Film/Spartacus}} and ''SpartacausBloodAndSand''
* {{UsefulNotes/YukimuraSanada}} is often celebrated as a folk hero for his legendary skills as a warrior and has always received a near universally positive portrayal in any work he is in as a youthful samurai with undying loyalty to Takeda Shingen and later Hideyoshi Toyotomi. His last stand at Osaka is always played straight however, depicting a tragic fight to serve his lord no matter the cost. Such efforts have immortalized in him games like SamuraiWarriors and Sanadamaru.

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* {{UsefulNotes/Spartacus}}, the DoomedMoralVictor of the last known great slave revolts in Rome is often constantly portrayed a hero who fought for the freedom of fellow slaves. While the original motive was simply to escape. Their last stand at the hands of Roman Legions led by Crassius will be forever remembered as a heroic stand against slavery as popularized by {{Film/Spartacus}} and ''SpartacausBloodAndSand''
''SpartacusBloodAndSand''
* {{UsefulNotes/YukimuraSanada}} {{UsefulNotes/SanadaYukimura}} is often celebrated as a folk hero for his legendary skills as a warrior and has always received a near universally positive portrayal in any work he is in as a youthful samurai with undying loyalty to Takeda Shingen and later Hideyoshi Toyotomi. His last stand at Osaka is always played straight however, depicting a tragic fight to serve his lord no matter the cost. Such efforts have immortalized in him games like SamuraiWarriors and Sanadamaru.
18th Jun '17 6:12:37 PM NoNamesEver
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* {{UsefulNotes/Spartacus}}, the DoomedMoralVictor of the last known great slave revolts in Rome is often constantly portrayed a hero who fought for the freedom of fellow slaves. While the original motive was simply to escape. Their last stand at the hands of Roman Legions led by Crassius will be forever remembered as a heroic stand against slavery as popularized by {{Film/Spartacus}} and ''SpartacausBloodAndSand''
* {{UsefulNotes/YukimuraSanada}} is often celebrated as a folk hero for his legendary skills as a warrior and has always received a near universally positive portrayal in any work he is in as a youthful samurai with undying loyalty to Takeda Shingen and later Hideyoshi Toyotomi. His last stand at Osaka is always played straight however, depicting a tragic fight to serve his lord no matter the cost. Such efforts have immortalized in him games like SamuraiWarriors and Sanadamaru.
13th Jun '17 11:25:46 AM BeerBaron
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* Pelineal Whitestrake in ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series is known as the Divine Crusader, and held in high regard by Imperials for freeing Tamriel from the Ayleids. Nevermind he was a racist berserker who would often go into psychopathic episodes, which were said to have damaged the lands themself. He nearly single-handedly wiped ''an entire race'' from the face of the planet, and even attacked another race called the Khajiit, simply because they didn't look ''[[FantasticRacism human]]''.
** The Dragonborn is revered in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'' for being a great hero, the ultimate warrior and the pinnacle of what a Nord should aspire to be. Despite it being revealed that the [[MonsterProgenitor First]] Dragonborn was actually a [[ReligionOfEvil Dragon-Priest]] who TurnedAgainstTheirMasters and ruled over Solstheim as a tyrant. However, this is somewhat of an subversion, since the Ancient Nord legends didn't refer to them at all, but actually the ''Last'' Dragonborn, prophecied to appear when Alduin returned. This bizarrely makes it a case of '''Future''' Historical Hero Upgrade!
** Tiber Septim, [[TheEmperor first Emperor of the current Empire]] and the man who united the entire continent, is seen as one of the greatest men to ever live and is so beloved by the humans of Tamriel that he has become revered as the god [[DeityOfHumanOrigin Talos]], even usurping the position of head of the Nordic pantheon. In reality though, [[spoiler:many of his most well-known exploits can be attributed to someone else, he may have been responsible for murdering his king in order to become emperor, and he almost certainly betrayed and killed one of his closest advisors in order to power the Numidium and conquer the rest of Tamriel.]] Of course, the worship of him isn't entirely unfounded, as there is evidence that [[spoiler:he really did ascend to godhood... and may be one of the last things holding the universe together.]]

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* Pelineal Whitestrake ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** Ysgramor, the [[FounderOfTheKingdom first king of Men
in ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' series Tamriel]], was a [[{{Precursors}} Atmoran (ancient proto-Nord)]] hero who led his family and some like minded individuals from their homeland of Atmora to the northernmost area of Tamriel, now known as Skyrim, after Atmora became embroiled in a massive civil war. Ysgramor later led the Atmoran people in colonizing Skyrim from their landing point of Hsaarik Head. He also became the first historian of mankind and developed the first written human language based on Atmoran and Elvish linguistic principles. After the [[OurElvesAreBetter Falmer]], native "snow elves" of Skyrim, massacred an Atmoran city, Ysgramor and his sons returned to Atmora. There, they gathered a group of potent warriors known as [[BadassArmy the 500 Companions]], and handily slaughtered the majority of the Falmer population and drove the remainder underground. However, some scholars suggest that the accomplishments credited to Ysgramor were actually performed by several early Nordic kings. Additionally, his claim that the Falmer attack on Saarthal was "unprovoked" is [[WrittenByTheWinners disputed by numerous records of the Elves]] who say that the attack was in response to repeated "provocations and blasphemies" committed by the early Nords.
** Pelinal Whitestrake,
known as the Divine Crusader, and held in high regard by Imperials "Divine Crusader," is a great hero to the races of Men, especially the Imperials, for freeing Tamriel helping Alessia free mankind from the Ayleids. [[OurElvesAreBetter Ayleid]] enslavement. Nevermind that he was a racist berserker [[TheBerserker berserker]] who would often go into [[UnstoppableRage psychopathic episodes]], some of which were so severe that they were said to have ''damaged the lands themselves''. His [[FantasticRacism hatred of non-human]] races extended even beyond the Elves to the [[CatFolk Khajiit]], whom he slew in droves mistaking them for another race of Elf. Imperial dogma (and his portrayal in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]]'''s ''Knights of the Nine'' expansion) conveniently forgets about his blatant racism and psychopathic episodes, which were focusing only on his heroic aspects.
** Reman Cyrodiil, founder of the Reman Dynasty who would forge the Second Cyrodiilic Empire of Tamriel, is
said to have damaged divine origins and was [[AChildShallLeadThem coronated at no older than age thirteen]]. However, there is evidence that his "divine" origins were fabricated in order to legitimize his rule. Further, modern Imperial propaganda has covered up most of his [[TheCaligula debauchery and psychoses]].
** Tiber Septim (aka Talos Stormcrown), ''was''
the lands themself. He nearly single-handedly wiped ''an entire race'' from the face first emperor to unite all of Tamriel and ''is'' held up as a paragon of the planet, human races, especially by the Imperials and Nords. Following his death, he ''did'' [[DeityOfHumanOrigin become the god Talos]], GodOfWar and Good Governance, and even attacked another race called took the Khajiit, simply because they didn't look ''[[FantasticRacism human]]''.
[[TopGod top spot as the chief deity]] on the Nordic pantheon. However, elements of his past are almost certainly embellished and/or outright fabricated as part of Imperial propaganda to appeal to the [[HornyVikings Nords]], whose support he badly needed in order to forge his empire. He may have had a hand in the assassination of King Cuhlecain (who he served as General) so that he could usurp the position. Many of his best known exploits can quite possibly be attributed to others (Wulfharth Ash-King, Zurin Artus) or, at the very least, his role in them was highly embellished. His legions were brutal in conquering Tamriel, committing many atrocities along the way (such as slaughtering the ruling family of Morrowind down to their young daughter). He almost certainly betrayed and killed one of his closest advisors (Zurin Arctus) in order to power the [[HumongousMecha Numidium]] to complete his conquests (and then had his propaganda machine paint ''Arctus'' as the villain). Of course, the worship of him isn't entirely unfounded, as there is evidence that he really did ascend to Godhood... and may be one of the last things holding Mundus together. Additionally, it is speculated that he may have used his divine powers post-apotheosis to ''[[RealityWarper alter reality]]'' to ''make'' [[CosmicRetcon his version of events "true"]].
** The Dragonborn is revered in ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'' for being a great hero, the ultimate warrior warrior, and the pinnacle of what a Nord should aspire to be. Despite it being revealed that the [[MonsterProgenitor First]] Dragonborn was actually a [[ReligionOfEvil Dragon-Priest]] who TurnedAgainstTheirMasters and ruled over Solstheim as a tyrant. However, this is somewhat of an subversion, since the Ancient Nord legends didn't refer to them at all, but actually the ''Last'' Dragonborn, prophecied to appear when Alduin returned. This bizarrely makes it a case of '''Future''' Historical Hero Upgrade!
** Tiber Septim, [[TheEmperor first Emperor of the current Empire]] and the man who united the entire continent, is seen as one of the greatest men to ever live and is so beloved by the humans of Tamriel that he has become revered as the god [[DeityOfHumanOrigin Talos]], even usurping the position of head of the Nordic pantheon. In reality though, [[spoiler:many of his most well-known exploits can be attributed to someone else, he may have been responsible for murdering his king in order to become emperor, and he almost certainly betrayed and killed one of his closest advisors in order to power the Numidium and conquer the rest of Tamriel.]] Of course, the worship of him isn't entirely unfounded, as there is evidence that [[spoiler:he really did ascend to godhood... and may be one of the last things holding the universe together.]]
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12th Jun '17 6:40:43 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[TheUntouchables Eliot Ness]] is frequently depicted as a badass, incorruptible law officer who became AlCapone's ArchEnemy after refusing to take a bribe from him. In reality Ness had little to do with Capone's conviction,. and Capone might barely have been aware Ness ''[[IgnoredEnemy existed]]''. Capone probably considered whoever was in charge of the North Side gang as his arch enemy; Ness' ten man crew could barely scratch his million dollar bootlegging empire. Ironically for a man best known for fighting bootlegging, he also became an alcoholic later in life. When a federal building was slated to be named after him, a critic argued that it might as well be named after Franchise/{{Batman}}.

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* [[TheUntouchables Eliot Ness]] is frequently depicted as a badass, incorruptible law officer who became AlCapone's UsefulNotes/AlCapone's ArchEnemy after refusing to take a bribe from him. In reality Ness had little to do with Capone's conviction,. and Capone might barely have been aware Ness ''[[IgnoredEnemy existed]]''. Capone probably considered whoever was in charge of the North Side gang as his arch enemy; Ness' ten man crew could barely scratch his million dollar bootlegging empire. Ironically for a man best known for fighting bootlegging, he also became an alcoholic later in life. When a federal building was slated to be named after him, a critic argued that it might as well be named after Franchise/{{Batman}}.
3rd Jun '17 8:46:42 AM edmiborn
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** The titular character's anti-slavery stance is greatly increased in order to make him more sympathetic. While the real Hamilton was more antislavery than most people of the time, he did not see slavery as nearly as important an issue as other things were, and tolerated slaveholders among his associates (John Laurens, however, really was that much of an abolitionist). The play also tones down Hamilton's elitism. Real life Hamilton was accused of being a monarchist due to wanting to re-establish a blue blood elite in the Colonies, and at the Constitutional Convention argued that the President should serve for life, though historians debate if he really believed these things or if the whole thing was an elaborate feint planned with UsefulNotes/JamesMadison to [[FalseFlagOperation make the latter's plan look better by comparison]].

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** The titular character's anti-slavery stance is greatly increased in order to make him more sympathetic. While the real Hamilton was more antislavery than most some people of the time, he did not see slavery as nearly as important an issue as other things were, and tolerated slaveholders among his associates (John Laurens, however, really was that much of an abolitionist).abolitionist). Hamilton also owned a few slaves himself. The play also tones down Hamilton's elitism. Real life Hamilton was accused of being a monarchist due to wanting to re-establish a blue blood elite in the Colonies, and at the Constitutional Convention argued that the President should serve for life, though historians debate if he really believed these things or if the whole thing was an elaborate feint planned with UsefulNotes/JamesMadison to [[FalseFlagOperation make the latter's plan look better by comparison]].
2nd Jun '17 3:59:24 PM Whipsmart
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* The North Vietnamese during UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar. Both during and after the conflict, they have been portrayed as largely-innocent victims of American and French colonial interests lashing out at their oppressors. This is more or less true, but it does lead to a fact that actual North Vietnamese war crimes are rarely depicted, nor is the fact that their government was a fairly typical hardline Communist one with most of the usual trappings thereof such as [[ThePurge mass executions]] and nationalization of business by force. The Vietcong/NLF gets the same treatment. Whereas pretty much everyone now knows about the My Lai massacre, few can name the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Hu%E1%BA%BF Hue massacre]] during the Tet offensive. At one point they killed a civil servant, his wife, [[WouldHurtAchild his children]],[[KillEmAll his daughter in law and servants]], [[AndYourLittleDogToo his cat and dog]] and [[UpToEleven his goldfish]]. After their victory, persecution of South Vietnamese in business and government occurred, plus repression of ethnic Chinese (many of whom were active in both fields).

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* The North Vietnamese during UsefulNotes/TheVietnamWar. Both during and after the conflict, they have been portrayed as largely-innocent victims of American and French colonial interests lashing out at their oppressors. This is more or less true, but it does lead to a fact that actual North Vietnamese war crimes are rarely depicted, nor is the fact that their government was a fairly typical hardline Communist one with most of the usual trappings thereof such as [[ThePurge mass executions]] and nationalization of business by force. The Vietcong/NLF gets the same treatment. Whereas pretty much everyone now knows about the My Lai massacre, few can name the [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Hu%E1%BA%BF org/wiki/Massacre_at_Huế Hue massacre]] during the Tet offensive. At one point they killed a civil servant, his wife, [[WouldHurtAchild his children]],[[KillEmAll his daughter in law and servants]], [[AndYourLittleDogToo his cat and dog]] and [[UpToEleven his goldfish]]. After their victory, persecution of South Vietnamese in business and government occurred, plus repression of ethnic Chinese (many of whom were active in both fields).
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