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26th Mar '17 9:39:22 AM k410ren
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*** Meanwhile, Theon Grejoy is a hidden backup prince [[spoiler: after his father King of the Iron Isles Balon Greyjoy dies and, Theon being presumed dead, his uncle Euron takes over.]]

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*** Meanwhile, Theon Grejoy is a hidden backup prince [[spoiler: after his father King of the Iron Isles Balon Greyjoy dies and, Theon being presumed dead, his uncle Euron takes over. Though since Theon is missing some... [[GroinAttack important pieces]], someone else is needed to continue the line.]]
21st Mar '17 6:29:28 AM cherrychels
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** [[spoiler: Bran and Rickon Stark could be considered this, since most people assume that Theon Greyjoy killed both of them when he took over Winterfell, and after the Boltons take over. However, Ramsay Bolton is GenreSavvy enough to know this and kills Rickon after holding him hostage (and, as far as anyone knows, Bran is dead). Jon Snow could be considered this trope in two ways: despite being Ned Stark's [[HeroicBastard illegitimate son]] as far as anyone knows, at the end of season 6, Jon is his only living son and ends up being chosen as King of the North. Additionally, the show confirms [[spoiler:the fan theory that Jon is secretly the son of Lyanna Stark, Ned Stark's sister, and Prince Rhaegar Targaryen, thus making him a Backup Prince for the Iron Throne as well.]]

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** [[spoiler: Bran and Rickon Stark could be considered this, since most people assume that Theon Greyjoy killed both of them when he took over Winterfell, and after the Boltons take over. However, Ramsay Bolton is GenreSavvy enough to know this and kills Rickon after holding him hostage (and, as far as anyone knows, Bran is dead). Jon Snow could be considered this trope in two ways: despite being Ned Stark's [[HeroicBastard illegitimate son]] as far as anyone knows, at the end of season 6, Jon is his only living son and ends up being chosen as King of the North. Additionally, the show confirms [[spoiler:the the fan theory that Jon is secretly the son of Lyanna Stark, Ned Stark's sister, and Prince Rhaegar Targaryen, thus making him a Backup Prince for the Iron Throne as well.]]
21st Mar '17 6:27:21 AM cherrychels
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* In ''LightNovel/TheTestamentOfSisterNewDevil'', Mio learns she's the daughter of the demon king after he's killed off, and a hostile demon faction is intent on finding and killing her. He had her hidden away to live the life of a normal human up to that point. Once Basara also learns of this, he reconsiders having kicked them out of his house after they tried to brainwash him into leaving.
* This is the case with Tenchi Masaki in ''Anime/TenchiMuyo''. He is technically 2nd-in-line for the throne of Jurai (and probably, next-in-line since his grandfather probably doesn't want the crown anymore) but until recently, was ignorant of his heritage. Even now, his existence isn't known to the galactic community due to his grandparents' secret marriage.

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* In ''LightNovel/TheTestamentOfSisterNewDevil'', Mio learns she's she is the daughter of the demon king after he's he is killed off, and a hostile demon faction is intent on finding and killing her. He had her hidden away to live the life of a normal human up to that point. Once Basara also learns of this, he reconsiders having kicked them out of his house after they tried to brainwash him into leaving.
* This is the case with Tenchi Masaki in ''Anime/TenchiMuyo''. He is technically 2nd-in-line second-in-line for the throne of Jurai (and probably, next-in-line since his grandfather probably doesn't want the crown anymore) but until recently, was ignorant of his heritage. Even now, his existence isn't known to the galactic community due to his grandparents' secret marriage.



** Unconfirmed, but a ''very'' popular [[WildMassGuessing fan theory]] holds that [[spoiler: Jon Snow is actually Rhaegar and Lyanna's son. If true, he could make a claim to the throne as well.]]

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** Unconfirmed, but a ''very'' popular [[WildMassGuessing fan theory]] holds that [[spoiler: Jon Snow is actually the son of Lyanna Stark, Ned Stark's sister, and Prince Rhaegar and Lyanna's son.Targaryen. If true, he could make a claim to the throne as well.]]



*** After [[spoiler:the death of King in the North Robb Stark with no known children]], both Bran and Rickon Stark (thought dead) and Jon [[spoiler: Stark (formerly Jon]] Snow, [[spoiler: legitimized by royal decree]] are hidden backup princes. [[spoiler:Bran is travelling North of the Wall and looks unlikely to ever return as he is becoming a greenseer. However his youngest sibling Rickon is in hiding in the North and some of the Northern nobility are planning to restore him to rule of Winterfell.]]

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*** After [[spoiler:the death of King in the North Robb Stark with no known children]], both his brothers Bran and Stark, Rickon Stark (thought dead) and Jon [[spoiler: Stark (formerly Jon]] Snow, [[spoiler: legitimized by royal decree]] are hidden backup princes. [[spoiler:Bran is travelling North of the Wall and looks unlikely to ever return as he is becoming a greenseer. However his youngest sibling Rickon is in hiding in the North and some of the Northern nobility are planning to restore him to rule of Winterfell.]]



* Played absolutely straight in ''Series/OnceUponATime'', with Prince James and his hidden backup twin, raised as a shepherd.

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* Played absolutely straight in ''Series/OnceUponATime'', with Prince James and his hidden backup twin, raised as a shepherd.



** [[spoiler: Robert Baratheon, like his book counterpart, has many bastards, but his heir Joffrey has most of them killed when he ascends to the throne after Robert's death.]]
** [[spoiler: Bran and Rickon Stark could be considered this, since most people assume that Theon killed both of them when he took over Winterfell, and after the Boltons take over. However, Ramsay Bolton is GenreSavvy enough to know this and kills Rickon after holding him hostage (and as far as anyone knows Bran is dead). Jon Snow could be considered this trope in two ways: Despite being Ned Stark's bastard as far as anyone knows, at the end of season 6 he is his only living son and thus ends up being chosen as King of the North. Additionally, the show confirms the fan theory that he is secretly the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen, thus making him a Backup Prince for the Iron Throne as well.]]

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** [[spoiler: Robert Baratheon, like his book counterpart, has many bastards, illegitimate children, but his heir Joffrey has most of them killed when he ascends to the throne after Robert's death.]]
** [[spoiler: Bran and Rickon Stark could be considered this, since most people assume that Theon Greyjoy killed both of them when he took over Winterfell, and after the Boltons take over. However, Ramsay Bolton is GenreSavvy enough to know this and kills Rickon after holding him hostage (and (and, as far as anyone knows knows, Bran is dead). Jon Snow could be considered this trope in two ways: Despite despite being Ned Stark's bastard [[HeroicBastard illegitimate son]] as far as anyone knows, at the end of season 6 he 6, Jon is his only living son and thus ends up being chosen as King of the North. Additionally, the show confirms the [[spoiler:the fan theory that he Jon is secretly the son of Lyanna Stark Stark, Ned Stark's sister, and Prince Rhaegar Targaryen, thus making him a Backup Prince for the Iron Throne as well.]]
28th Feb '17 12:56:20 AM jormis29
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* In the Gilbert and Sullivan opretta ''The Gondoliers'', a prince had been hidden by being placed into the care of a Gondolier who had a son about the same age. Fast forward to the story's present day, and it's time to crown the king, but virtually everyone who knew the infant prince has since died, so nobody's sure ''which'' of the two young men who have taken up their late father's career is the rightful heir.

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* In the Gilbert and Sullivan Creator/GilbertAndSullivan opretta ''The Gondoliers'', ''Theatre/TheGondoliers'', a prince had been hidden by being placed into the care of a Gondolier who had a son about the same age. Fast forward to the story's present day, and it's time to crown the king, but virtually everyone who knew the infant prince has since died, so nobody's sure ''which'' of the two young men who have taken up their late father's career is the rightful heir.
27th Feb '17 2:25:56 AM lavendermintrose
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* In ''Acca: 13 Territory Inspection Dept'', [[spoiler: Jean Otus]] is revealed to be this - which the kingdom badly needs, because [[RoyalBrat no one likes Prince Schwan]]. [[spoiler: Jean's mother, the second princess, faked her death to be with her love, but some people did keep tabs on her and her children]].

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* In ''Acca: 13 Territory Inspection Dept'', ''Anime/Acca13TerritoryInspectionDept'', [[spoiler: Jean Otus]] is revealed to be this - which the kingdom badly needs, because [[RoyalBrat no one likes Prince Schwan]]. [[spoiler: Jean's mother, the second princess, faked her death to be with her love, but some people did keep tabs on her and her children]].
26th Feb '17 5:09:10 AM lavendermintrose
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* In ''Acca: 13 Territory Inspection Dept'', [[spoiler: Jean Otus]] is revealed to be this - which the kingdom badly needs, because [[RoyalBrat no one likes Prince Schwan]]. [[spoiler: Jean's mother, the second princess, faked her death to be with her love, but some people did keep tabs on her and her children]].
23rd Feb '17 6:21:44 AM ScottMarshall
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* In ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'', the king's infant son, Tomjon, is hidden away to protect him from his murderous relatives. Unbeknownst to everyone, there's a second son already there - Verence the fool. Though Nanny realizes at the end of the book that [[spoiler:neither is the king's son; they're both children of Verence's father, the previous fool.]]

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* In ''Discworld/WyrdSisters'', the king's infant son, Tomjon, is hidden away to protect him from his murderous relatives. Unbeknownst to everyone, there's a second son already there - Verence the fool. Though Nanny realizes at the end of the book that [[spoiler:neither is the king's son; they're both children of Verence's father, the previous fool. Tomjon is actually a bastard born to the previous fool and the queen, while Verence is the fool's son by his actual wife.]]
14th Jan '17 3:29:22 PM Bissek
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* In the Gilbert and Sullivan opretta ''The Gondoliers'', a prince had been hidden by being placed into the care of a Gondolier who had a son about the same age. Fast forward to the story's present day, and it's time to crown the king, but virtually everyone who knew the infant prince has since died, so nobody's sure ''which'' of the two young men who have taken up their late father's career is the rightful heir.
1st Jan '17 6:54:33 PM wuggles
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* Like the novels it's based on, ''Series/GameOfThrones'' features this, although since the show is a PragmaticAdaptation of the books there aren't nearly as many:
** [[spoiler: Robert Baratheon, like his book counterpart, has many bastards, but his heir Joffrey has most of them killed when he ascends to the throne after Robert's death.]]
** [[spoiler: Bran and Rickon Stark could be considered this, since most people assume that Theon killed both of them when he took over Winterfell, and after the Boltons take over. However, Ramsay Bolton is GenreSavvy enough to know this and kills Rickon after holding him hostage (and as far as anyone knows Bran is dead). Jon Snow could be considered this trope in two ways: Despite being Ned Stark's bastard as far as anyone knows, at the end of season 6 he is his only living son and thus ends up being chosen as King of the North. Additionally, the show confirms the fan theory that he is secretly the son of Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen, thus making him a Backup Prince for the Iron Throne as well.]]
14th Dec '16 10:09:54 AM JoeMerl
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* In ''Literature/VampireAcademy'', [[spoiler:Jill Mastrano is an illegitimate heiress to the dying royal Dragomir family who gets acknowledged in the finale of the series, in the process aving the family from near-extinction and losing its political rights. She herself had no idea of her status as she was raised in secrecy]].
* {{Enforced}} in ''Literature/TheMagids'' by Diana Wynne Jones: the Koryfonic Empire, which spans multiple magical worlds, has all of the emperor's children raised by someone else to avoid rebellion and succession problems. The novel actually opens with the Emperor executing one of his sons for finding out the truth. Shortly after, the Emperor himself is assassinated, and the Empire is thrown into chaos as the protagonist, Rupert, tries to track down at least one of the heirs. (Some of whom are in our world and at least one of whom isn't fully human.)

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* In ''Literature/VampireAcademy'', [[spoiler:Jill Mastrano is an illegitimate heiress to the dying royal Dragomir family who gets acknowledged in the finale of the series, in the process aving saving the family from near-extinction and losing its political rights. She herself had no idea of her status as she was raised in secrecy]].
* {{Enforced}} in ''Literature/TheMagids'' by Diana Wynne Jones: the Koryfonic Empire, which spans multiple magical worlds, has all of the emperor's children raised by someone else to avoid rebellion and succession problems. The novel actually opens with the Emperor executing one of his sons for finding out the truth. Shortly after, Of course, this winds up ''creating'' succession problems when the Emperor himself is assassinated, and with the Empire is thrown into chaos as the protagonist, Rupert, tries to track down at least one of the heirs. (Some of whom are in our world and at least one of whom isn't fully human.)



* In the KingArthur mythos Arthur doesn't know he's the heir to the throne, everyone thinks he's a foundling that Sir Ector took pity on; but Merlin trains him in such a way that he ends up a wise and humble king - unlike he presumably would have been if he had grown up as a prince. Arthur doesn't learn of his true parentage until after Uther, his father, dies and he pulls the sword from the stone... and commits BrotherSisterIncest with his older sister, Morgause.

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* In the KingArthur mythos Arthur doesn't know he's the heir to the throne, everyone thinks he's a foundling that Sir Ector took pity on; but Merlin trains him in such a way that he ends up a wise and humble king - unlike king--unlike he presumably would have been if he had grown up as a prince. Arthur doesn't learn of his true parentage until after Uther, his father, dies and he pulls the sword from the stone... and commits BrotherSisterIncest stone. (Though this also leads to some issues, as he accidentally [[BrotherSisterIncest sleeps with his older sister, Morgause.half-sister]].)
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