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1st Sep '17 11:12:38 AM name_already_chosen
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* This is how anyone who was part of the Internet during its first ten to fifteen years feels today. We miss the magic of unfettered creativity before people realized they could make a buck off the Internet, back in the days before clickbait, before spyware, before malware and ransomware, before social media contracts that mock your rights to privacy, and before the modern need to fight for network neutrality. Sure, there was the 'blink' command and the insanity of TimeCube, but the freedom for experimentation and play really made it seem a magical time, and it didn't even last twenty years.

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* This is how anyone who was part of the Internet during its first ten to fifteen years feels today. We miss the magic of unfettered creativity before people realized they could make a buck off the Internet, back in the days before clickbait, before spyware, before malware and ransomware, before social media contracts that mock your rights to privacy, and before the modern need to fight for network neutrality. Sure, there was the 'blink' command and the insanity of TimeCube, Time Cube, but the freedom for experimentation and play really made it seem a magical time, and it didn't even last twenty years.
1st Sep '17 11:12:23 AM name_already_chosen
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* This is how anyone who was part of the Internet during its first ten to fifteen years feels today. We miss the magic of unfettered creativity before people realized they could make a buck off the Internet, back in the days before clickbait, before spyware, before malware and ransomware, before social media contracts that waive your privacy, and before the modern need to fight for network neutrality. Sure, there was the 'blink' command and the insanity of TimeCube, but the freedom for experimentation and play really made it seem a magical time, and it didn't even last twenty years.

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* This is how anyone who was part of the Internet during its first ten to fifteen years feels today. We miss the magic of unfettered creativity before people realized they could make a buck off the Internet, back in the days before clickbait, before spyware, before malware and ransomware, before social media contracts that waive mock your rights to privacy, and before the modern need to fight for network neutrality. Sure, there was the 'blink' command and the insanity of TimeCube, but the freedom for experimentation and play really made it seem a magical time, and it didn't even last twenty years.
1st Sep '17 11:09:54 AM name_already_chosen
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* This is how anyone who was part of the Internet during its first ten to fifteen years feels today. We miss the magic of unfettered creativity before people realized they could make a buck off the Internet, back in the days before clickbait, before spyware, before malware and ransomware, before social media contracts that waive your privacy, and before the modern need to fight for network neutrality. Sure, there was the 'blink' command and the insanity of TimeCube, but the freedom for experimentation and play really made it seem a magical time, and it didn't even last twenty years.
** There are youtube videos of the original youtuber stars puzzling over how much youtube has changed in so little time.
12th Aug '17 8:49:38 AM Hereward
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* As described in the Real Life entry below Supertramp's Logical Song highlights this issue.
-->"When I was young it seemed that life was so wonderful, a miracle...
-->But then they sent me away, teach me how to be sensible, [[TitleDrop logical]], responsible, [[TheMagicGoesAway practical.]]"
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20th May '17 1:27:55 PM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/VagrantStory'' centers around the last place of magic left in the world - Lea Monde. The trick is that we've ''seen'' what the world looked like with magic; it was called ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'' (which was itself an example to ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' and ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2'', which had much more advanced magic and magitechnology). What happened in the intervening centuries between each of them is unknown. (Funny enough given the trope name, there are ''lots'' of dragons in ''VagrantStory''.)

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* ''VideoGame/VagrantStory'' centers around the last place of magic left in the world - Lea Monde. The trick is that we've ''seen'' what the world looked like with magic; it was called ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTactics'' (which was itself an example to ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXII'' and ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyTacticsA2'', which had much more advanced magic and magitechnology). What happened in the intervening centuries between each of them is unknown. (Funny enough given the trope name, there are ''lots'' of dragons in ''VagrantStory''.''VideoGame/VagrantStory''.)
24th Jan '17 9:25:04 AM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': The Targaryens once ruled Westeros from the backs of their dragons, but by the start of the series dragons have been extinct for over a century. Their skulls are kept as heirlooms, their bones are used in things like dagger hilts, and their fossilized eggs are priceless curiosities. That is until Daenerys hatches three dragons at the end of Season 1.
3rd Jan '17 8:24:30 AM Randomwaffle23
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* ''{{Literature/Elantris}}'' opens with the line: "Elantris was beautiful, once." The whole prologue is about how [[ShiningCity magnificent]] the city was, how its very walls [[PowerGlows shone with magic]], how [[DeityOfHumanOrigin its inhabitants were immortal]] and could be worshipped [[LookOnMyWorksYeMightyAndDespair for eternity]]...
-->[[ImmediateSelfContradiction Eternity ended ten years ago.]]
1st Dec '16 12:28:05 PM DracoKanji
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* ''Manga/InuYasha''. Seems like you couldn't go anywhere in Sengoku-period Japan without tripping over a demon. Five hundred years later, though, there's nary a one to be found, or any evidence that they had ever existed. A bit odd in that the characters have run into one of the show's {{Plot Coupon}}s in the present (although it was being guarded by a [[SealedEvilInACan sealed demon]]). However, they once saw the soul piper in the modern day, so there are exceptions.

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* ''Manga/InuYasha''. Seems like you couldn't go anywhere in Sengoku-period Japan without tripping over a demon. Five hundred years later, though, there's nary a one to be found, or any evidence that they had ever existed. A bit odd in that the characters have run into one of the show's {{Plot Coupon}}s in the present (although it was being guarded by a [[SealedEvilInACan sealed demon]]). However, they once saw the soul piper in the modern day, so there are exceptions. This is actually keeping in with Japanese mythology - youkai and lesser spirits are said to dislike electricity, and power lines create electromagnetic fields that repulse them.
15th Aug '16 2:31:55 PM Theriocephalus
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* ''FanFic/TheThreeKingsHunt'' the author has said that at the time of Camelot around 3 in 10 of the human population had some form of magical power. Needless to say this is no longer the case due [[spoiler: to the genocide against the mages]]. These days the mage population is probably in the hundreds of thousands, with the wizard population in the low millions and the non-magicals outnumbering both by a lot.

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* ''FanFic/TheThreeKingsHunt'' the ''FanFic/TheThreeKingsHunt'': The author has said that at the time of Camelot around 3 in 10 of the human population had some form of magical power. Needless to say this is no longer the case due [[spoiler: to the genocide against the mages]]. These days the mage population is probably in the hundreds of thousands, with the wizard population in the low millions and the non-magicals outnumbering both by a lot.



* Subverted In Dragon Slippers. Creel is convinced that dragons have been extinct for decades, as no one has seen one in living memory. Because of this, she's not too troubled by her aunt 'sacrificing' her to a dragon, as it means she can go off to seek her fortune.... until she's promptly carried away. Oops.
* Robert E. Howard's original ''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian'' stories are said to have taken place in Earth's prehistory.
* Creator/JRRTolkien's letters indicated that the same was true of ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''.
** The effect actually happens within ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''; at the time of the War of the Ring the magic was almost completely faded from the world. For a random example, at one point there were so many Balrogs they had their own army instead of only one, and the current dark lord is only a pale imitation of the old one, who was order of magnitude stronger still.
** Tolkien retconned the purpose of the quest in ''Literature/TheHobbit'' to be Gandalf's move to deny Sauron a weapon of mass destruction by making this literally true.

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* Subverted In Dragon Slippers.in ''Literature/DragonSlippers''. Creel is convinced that dragons have been extinct for decades, as no one has seen one in living memory. Because of this, she's not too troubled by her aunt 'sacrificing' her to a dragon, as it means she can go off to seek her fortune....fortune... until she's promptly carried away. Oops.
* Robert E. Howard's original ''Franchise/ConanTheBarbarian'' stories are said to have taken place in Earth's prehistory.
prehistory, when magic, monsters and godlike beings were still active forces in the world.
* One of the main themes in Creator/JRRTolkien's works, although itís most obvious in ''Literature/TheSilmarillion''. In fact, it is implied in some of Tolkien's letters indicated that Middle Earth is our own world (specifically Europe and northern Africa) in the same was true of ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''.
very distant past, with the implication being that all the fantastic creatures and magic were lost over time.
** The This effect actually happens is still quite visible within ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings''; at the time of the War of the Ring the magic was had almost completely faded from the world. For a random example, at one point there were so many Balrogs they had their own army instead of only one, and example the current dark lord is only a pale imitation of the old one, who was an order of magnitude stronger still.
than he was, and his Ringwraiths are only shadows of the terror of his masterís Balrogs, which used to be a much more powerful force in the world than the one survivor squatting under the mountains seen in the books.
** Tolkien retconned the purpose of the quest in ''Literature/TheHobbit'' to be Gandalf's move to deny Sauron a weapon of mass destruction by making this literally true. Smaug was the last great dragon left in Middle Earth (a number of weaker, lesser serpents survived in the far north), and even then he was no true match for the great dragons of the First Age.
** This is very much in effect for the side of good, as well. Elven and dwarven civilization has been in steady decline for a long time, due to the elves leaving Middle Earth for the Undying Lands and the dwarves dwindling due to their raceís low fertility, and their racesí old empires, achievements and glories are lost and wonít be regained. The once widespread [[PlantPerson ents]] have likewise almost completely faded from the world after the loss of their women, with only a small doomed remnant remaining in Fangorn Forest. Middle-Earth is a fantastic and magic-filled land by our standards, but by its own it is a drab, grey and mundane world when compared to its ancient past.



** In the fourth book, it's actually hinted that [[spoiler: The Maesters are actively trying to get rid of magic.]]

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** In the fourth book, it's actually hinted that [[spoiler: The the Maesters are actively trying to get rid of magic.]]



* Played with in ''Literature/TheFirstLaw Trilogy''. There WAS an Age of Wonder, where demons walked amongst men, monsters roamed, and great magic was wrought by the Magi... but that was a long time ago, and as far as the 'civilized' people of [[TheFederation The Union]] knows, may well just be myth and legend. And indeed, they're not entirely wrong - according to Bayaz, First of the Magi, the magic is literally leaking out of the world - and even those that remains of the Magi of old, are slowly growing weaker and weaker. Still, more remains of the old world than most people realize... which could come back to bite a lot of people in the ass. [[IAmAHumanitarian And the rest of their anatomy, for that matter.]] Ultimately, most of the problems that appear has to be solved through mundane means - politics, money, violence, or a combination of those. Attempts to call upon ancient magics or find forgotten artifacts of power tend to either backfire badly, or just fail outright.

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* Played with in ''Literature/TheFirstLaw Trilogy''. There WAS an Age of Wonder, where demons walked amongst men, monsters roamed, and great magic was wrought by the Magi... but that was a long time ago, and as far as the 'civilized' people of [[TheFederation The the Union]] knows, know, it may well just be myth and legend. And indeed, they're not entirely wrong - according to Bayaz, First of the Magi, the magic is literally leaking out of the world - and even those that remains remain of the Magi of old, old are slowly growing weaker and weaker. Still, more remains of the old world than most people realize... which could come back to bite a lot of people in the ass. [[IAmAHumanitarian And the rest of their anatomy, for that matter.]] Ultimately, most of the problems that appear has have to be solved through mundane means - politics, money, violence, or a combination of those.these. Attempts to call upon ancient magics or find forgotten artifacts of power tend to either backfire badly, or just fail outright.



** Though interestingly {{Double Subver|sion}}ted in medieval European chronicles themselves, where they took TheTimeOfMyths to be when the early parts of Literature/TheBible were set, and then there were about 1500 years of no supernatural things (with [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} one exception]]) occurring, during AncientGreece and AncientRome, but ''then''Ö [[TheMagicComesBack there were tales of sorcerers, dragons, and]] [[KnightInShiningArmor Knights In Shining Armor]]Ö which inexplicably disappeared at some unspecified point in the narratives.

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** Though interestingly {{Double Subver|sion}}ted in medieval European chronicles themselves, where they took TheTimeOfMyths to be when the early parts of Literature/TheBible were set, and then there were about 1500 years of no supernatural things (with [[UsefulNotes/{{Christianity}} one exception]]) occurring, during AncientGreece and AncientRome, but ''then''Ö ''then''... [[TheMagicComesBack there were tales of sorcerers, dragons, and]] [[KnightInShiningArmor Knights In Shining Armor]]Ö Armor]]... which inexplicably disappeared at some unspecified point in the narratives.



* ''Earthdawn'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'' are two roleplaying games that take place in a world where magic ebbs and flows over the eons. The term "Worlds" is used to distinguish a period when the mana levels are high enough to support magic or nearly nonexistent. ''Earthdawn'' takes place in the Fourth World, when the FiveRaces (and others) are commonplace and magic is a steady trade. The Fifth World is the present day (well, an AlternateHistory version of "the present day" that splits off around 1999), when magic is nearly nonexistent. The Sixth World of ''Shadowrun'' begins in 2012, with the return of dragons, magic, and the FiveRaces.

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* ''Earthdawn'' ''TabletopGame/{{Earthdawn}}'' and ''TabletopGame/{{Shadowrun}}'' are two roleplaying games that take place in a world where magic ebbs and flows over the eons. The term "Worlds" is used to distinguish a period when the mana levels are high enough to support magic or nearly nonexistent. ''Earthdawn'' takes place in the Fourth World, when the FiveRaces (and others) are commonplace and magic is a steady trade. The Fifth World is the present day (well, an AlternateHistory version of "the present day" that splits off around 1999), when magic is nearly nonexistent. The Sixth World of ''Shadowrun'' begins in 2012, with the return of dragons, magic, and the FiveRaces.



* ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' seems to have an interesting explanation as to why there are no Greek gods anymore: [[spoiler:[[SociopathicHero Kratos]]]].

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* ''VideoGame/GodOfWar'' seems to have an interesting explanation as to why there are no Greek gods anymore: [[spoiler:[[SociopathicHero Kratos]]]].Kratos]] killed the lot of them]].
19th Jun '16 1:45:54 AM Gamezfan
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** This goes for the age of metal compared to the modern age as well: Eddie comes from our time, and feels out of place in a world where most of the good metal has died. Then he gets transported far into the past, to a world with swords, demons, great beasts, landscapes and '''metal!''' He feels more at home there than he ever did in the 2000's.
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