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15th May '16 8:26:56 PM Anorgil
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* The ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' world, while still plentifully enmagicked, has lost a lot of it since the olden days because of the elves partially sealing the Chaos Rift, greatly decreasing magical potency and also preventing daemons from rampaging across the world.

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* The ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' world, while still plentifully enmagicked, has lost a lot of it since the olden days because of the elves partially sealing creating the Chaos Rift, Vortex on the Isle of the Dead, greatly decreasing magical potency and also preventing daemons from rampaging across the world.world. Incidentally, this may have caused the dragons themselves to fall asleep as well.
2nd Feb '16 2:19:56 PM margdean56
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** The Holy Lance: not the spear of Longuinus, but a lance forged in the 600s around a nail from Christ's crucifixion. Otto I, Holy Roman Emperor, traded a province for it, and he got the better deal; with the Holy Lance borne before them, his army was able to stop the Hungarians' raids into Bavaria and the Rhineland, and secure the peace and stability of Germany.

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** The Holy Lance: not the spear of Longuinus, Longinus, but a lance forged in the 600s around a nail from Christ's crucifixion. Otto I, Holy Roman Emperor, traded a province for it, and he got the better deal; with the Holy Lance borne before them, his army was able to stop the Hungarians' raids into Bavaria and the Rhineland, and secure the peace and stability of Germany.
2nd Feb '16 2:19:32 PM margdean56
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** The Raven Banner. Accounts differ, but many speak of a flag consecrated to Odin, which would give victory to the flag-bearer's army at the cost of the flag-bearer's life. The Great Heathen Army, led by the sons of Ivar the Boneless when they invaded England to avenge their father's treacherous murder, bore such a flag; Harald Hardrada carried a raven banner named Land-Waster, which may have been the same one. At the Battle of Hastings, Land-Waster's magic failed, and the Danes were routed; but before then, the banner worked, for several hundred years (at least according to Tom Holland's magic-realist history, _The Forge of Christendom_).

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** The Raven Banner. Accounts differ, but many speak of a flag consecrated to Odin, which would give victory to the flag-bearer's army at the cost of the flag-bearer's life. The Great Heathen Army, led by the sons of Ivar the Boneless when they invaded England to avenge their father's treacherous murder, bore such a flag; Harald Hardrada carried a raven banner named Land-Waster, which may have been the same one. At the Battle of Hastings, Land-Waster's magic failed, and the Danes were routed; but before then, the banner worked, for several hundred years (at least according to Tom Holland's magic-realist history, _The ''The Forge of Christendom_).Christendom'').
2nd Feb '16 2:16:17 PM margdean56
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* Fritz Leiber's [[Literature/FafhrdAndTheGrayMouser Newhon]] stories are kind of an odd case, since they are set in a different universe, yet have easily indentifiable real-world cultures like the Conan stories, and in at least one story, the characters are explicitly in AncientGreece. (Many years later, while compiling a collected edition of the stories, Leiber wrote a prequel explaining that they were temporarily transported to Earth by their TricksterMentor Ningauble, though [[HandWave remaining vague]] on ''how'' or ''why''.)

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* Fritz Leiber's [[Literature/FafhrdAndTheGrayMouser Newhon]] Nehwon]] stories are kind of an odd case, since they are set in a different universe, yet have easily indentifiable real-world cultures like the Conan stories, and in at least one story, the characters are explicitly in AncientGreece. (Many years later, while compiling a collected edition of the stories, Leiber wrote a prequel explaining that they were temporarily transported to Earth by their TricksterMentor Ningauble, though [[HandWave remaining vague]] on ''how'' or ''why''.)
21st Jan '16 11:09:04 PM OldBlindTrope
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* The Dark Ages were a disconcertingly magical time. Magic didn't work in the Roman Empire, and it didn't work in the Middle Ages either (although medievals were firm believers in astrology), but in the weird, low-population interval between the two, you saw incidents like these:
** The Raven Banner. Accounts differ, but many speak of a flag consecrated to Odin, which would give victory to the flag-bearer's army at the cost of the flag-bearer's life. The Great Heathen Army, led by the sons of Ivar the Boneless when they invaded England to avenge their father's treacherous murder, bore such a flag; Harald Hardrada carried a raven banner named Land-Waster, which may have been the same one. At the Battle of Hastings, Land-Waster's magic failed, and the Danes were routed; but before then, the banner worked, for several hundred years (at least according to Tom Holland's magic-realist history, _The Forge of Christendom_).
** The Holy Lance: not the spear of Longuinus, but a lance forged in the 600s around a nail from Christ's crucifixion. Otto I, Holy Roman Emperor, traded a province for it, and he got the better deal; with the Holy Lance borne before them, his army was able to stop the Hungarians' raids into Bavaria and the Rhineland, and secure the peace and stability of Germany.
10th Jan '16 9:48:28 AM Redmess
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*** Mammoth skulls found in Europe and the Mediterranean during the Iron Age are thought to have given rise to legends of the cyclops.

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*** Mammoth skulls found in Europe and the Mediterranean during the Iron Age are thought to have given rise to legends of the cyclops.cyclops (the large nasal opening for the trunk in the skull was presumably confused for a giant eye socket).
9th Oct '15 6:02:40 PM eroock
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'''Here There Were Dragons''' is the idea that the past was a time when magic was everywhere, as opposed to our boring old mundane present. This isn't a case where magic went underground or adopted some {{Masquerade}} to avoid yet another WitchHunt; no, this is a case where magic has disappeared almost entirely. But, who knows? It could always [[TheMagicComesBack come back around again]] or [[TheDragonsComeBack at least the dragons could]], if there were actual dragons...

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'''Here Here There Were Dragons''' Dragons is the idea that the past was a time when magic was everywhere, as opposed to our boring old mundane present. This isn't a case where magic went underground or adopted some {{Masquerade}} to avoid yet another WitchHunt; no, this is a case where magic has disappeared almost entirely. But, who knows? It could always [[TheMagicComesBack come back around again]] or [[TheDragonsComeBack at least the dragons could]], if there were actual dragons...
4th Sep '15 8:21:49 AM rjung
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** Discussed in the short story "Troll Bridge" -- Cohen the Barbarian encounters a traditionalist troll under a bridge who's still attacking travelers, and moans that his wife is nagging him to get a modern job instead.
18th Jun '15 2:58:38 PM StFan
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* ''Anime/OtogiJuushiAkazukin'' takes place in two worlds, the world of technology and the world of magic. The two worlds were once one, however were split into two by 'God' after a single human proved just how terrifyingly much potential humanity had if they were given access to both technology AND magic.

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* ''Anime/OtogiJuushiAkazukin'' ''Anime/FairyMusketeers'' takes place in two worlds, the world of technology and the world of magic. The two worlds were once one, however were split into two by 'God' after a single human proved just how terrifyingly much potential humanity had if they were given access to both technology AND magic.




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* ''FanFic/TheThreeKingsHunt'' the author has said that at the time of Camelot around 3 in 10 of the human population had some form of magical power. Needless to say this is no longer the case due [[spoiler: to the genocide against the mages]]. These days the mage population is probably in the hundreds of thousands, with the wizard population in the low millions and the non-magicals outnumbering both by a lot.



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* ''FanFic/TheThreeKingsHunt'' the author has said that at the time of Camelot around 3 in 10 of the human population had some form of magical power. Needless to say this is no longer the case due [[spoiler: to the genocide against the mages]]. These days the mage population is probably in the hundreds of thousands, with the wizard population in the low millions and the non-magicals outnumbering both by a lot.
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11th Jun '15 7:58:43 AM Willbyr
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* The ''WarhammerFantasy'' world, while still plentifully enmagicked, has lost a lot of it since the olden days because of the elves partially sealing the Chaos Rift, greatly decreasing magical potency and also preventing daemons from rampaging across the world.
* Replacing magic with technology, you have The Dark/Golden Age of Technology of Warhammer40K, when Mankind had access to unbelievably awesome technology. Nowadays finding the tiniest scrap of it makes a man rich beyond his wildest dreams. Why is it called the Dark Age? Because men's use of technology meant they didn't worship the GodEmperor (the truth is a bit more complicated, the Emperor didn't ''want'' anyone worshipping him in those days, and wanted science to replace religion).

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* The ''WarhammerFantasy'' ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' world, while still plentifully enmagicked, has lost a lot of it since the olden days because of the elves partially sealing the Chaos Rift, greatly decreasing magical potency and also preventing daemons from rampaging across the world.
* Replacing magic with technology, you have The Dark/Golden Age of Technology of Warhammer40K, ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}'', when Mankind had access to unbelievably awesome technology. Nowadays finding the tiniest scrap of it makes a man rich beyond his wildest dreams. Why is it called the Dark Age? Because men's use of technology meant they didn't worship the GodEmperor (the truth is a bit more complicated, the Emperor didn't ''want'' anyone worshipping worshiping him in those days, and wanted science to replace religion).
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