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10th Jul '17 12:49:54 PM Monolaf317
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9th Jul '17 3:31:34 PM MarkLungo
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* In ''Anime/Acca13TerritoryInspectionDept'', Prince Schwan is regarded as the heir because he is the only (known) son of the king's daughters. [[spoiler: When he realizes Lotta is his cousin, he doesn't care, because she is a girl... until Magie tells him Lotta has a brother.]]

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* In ''Anime/Acca13TerritoryInspectionDept'', ''Manga/Acca13TerritoryInspectionDept'', Prince Schwan is regarded as the heir because he is the only (known) son of the king's daughters. [[spoiler: When he realizes Lotta is his cousin, he doesn't care, because she is a girl... until Magie tells him Lotta has a brother.]]



* Miroku of ''Anime/InuYasha'' needs to perpetuate his line (with a son) before the affliction that plagues all men in his family kills him. He attempts to do so by propositioning '''every''' girl he meets. [[spoiler:He loses the affliction before the end of the story but has at least three kids anyway with Sango, and one's a boy]].

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* Miroku of ''Anime/InuYasha'' ''Manga/InuYasha'' needs to perpetuate his line (with a son) before the affliction that plagues all men in his family kills him. He attempts to do so by propositioning '''every''' girl he meets. [[spoiler:He loses the affliction before the end of the story but has at least three kids anyway with Sango, and one's a boy]].
4th Jul '17 2:17:56 PM angie710
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** Even earlier than that, this was the idea behind the custom that if a man died without any heirs, his widow was to be married off to his brother (whether she wanted to or not), and their first son would carry on the deceased man's lineage. This becomes a major plot point in the Literature/BookOfGenesis, when Tamar's husband dies. She marries his brother (as per custom), but he always pulls out because he doesn't want to do his duty, and dies. Next in line is a boy named Shelah, who is conveniently not old enough for marriage yet. Her father-in-law Judah, believing Tamar to be [[CartwrightCurse cursed]], tells her to move back in with her parents and wait until Shelah is old enough, which she does. After the TimeSkip, it's revealed that Shelah has been secretly married off to another girl, and there are no more brothers Tamar can marry. So, in response, Tamar disguises herself as a shrine prostitute, and sleeps with Judah, making sure to take his seal, cord, and staff as collateral. Three months later, when her pregnancy begins to show, and Judah sentences her to be burned to death for engaging in illicit sex (thus shaming the family), she reveals that the father is the owner of these items. Judah recognizes what she did, and [[LastMinuteReprieve spares her life]].
4th Jul '17 12:41:15 PM angie710
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* In the Literature/BookOfExodus, two women come to Moses with a problem. Their wealthy father has just died, and they have no brothers and are not married, but it's accepted in this society that women cannot inherit property or titles. Moses thinks for a minute, and comes up with a solution that's pretty FairForItsDay: they ''can'' inherit their father's property, but they must marry men from their own tribe. (Note that this only applied in cases like the above, where there were no sons or sons-in-law to be the inheritors; if they had a brother, or if these women were married, the property would go to their brothers or to their husbands, not them.) And if they had sons later, the property would be passed onto them.
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21st Jun '17 3:40:08 PM Eievie
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** '''Agnatic Succession''': When there is no male [[RoyalBlood heir]] ''there is no heir''.

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** * '''Agnatic Succession''': When there is no male [[RoyalBlood heir]] ''there is no heir''.
21st Jun '17 3:39:12 PM Eievie
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Under Agnatic Succession laws, when there is no male [[RoyalBlood heir]] ''there is no heir'' - contrast Agnatic-Cognatic Succession laws, under which women may inherit if there are no suitable men. It's rarely the case that there are ''no'' male claimants, however, so if there's no clear (or only a weak, e.g. female) heir then a SuccessionCrisis often results. The threat of such a crisis is reason enough for kings of countries with these laws to go to great lengths to ensure that they have at least one son on the ground who is both legitimate and his official heir.

If the King has no son or circumstances seem to be making that problematic, the courtiers may get into the act. A Succession Crisis can be unpleasant all around. This is done commonly with a grieving widow Queen or widower King, who is likely to be told YouHaveWaitedLongEnough with great promptness.

Even in the fortunate case where the King has a healthy male heir, this only secures the monarchy for one generation. As soon as that son comes of age, he will start feeling pressure to [[IWantGrandkids marry and produce an heir of his own]]. Furthermore, only one child is dangerous; surely you need [[SpareToTheThrone at least two]] to guard against tragedy. This is one of the few situations where either MyBiologicalClockIsTicking or IWantGrandkids is likely to [[AlwaysFemale apply to a male character]].

Additionally, it's a good idea to guard against fraud. MamasBabyPapasMaybe may raise doubts about whether the baby is suitable. Some monarchs will avoid putting all their eggs in one basket and make the spare a HiddenBackupPrince (bastards of the king are popular for fulfilling both these tropes).

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Under Agnatic Succession laws, when This trope takes two main forms:
**'''Agnatic Succession''': When
there is no male [[RoyalBlood heir]] ''there is no heir'' - contrast Agnatic-Cognatic Succession laws, under which women heir''.
*'''Agnatic-Cognatic Succession''': Women
may inherit if there are no suitable men. make heir.
The distinction is less clear than you might then.
It's rarely the case that there are ''no'' male claimants, however, so if there's no clear (or only a weak, e.g. female) ''clear'' heir then a SuccessionCrisis often results. The threat of such a crisis is reason enough for kings of countries with these laws to go to great lengths to ensure that they have at least one son on the ground who is both legitimate and his official heir.

If the King king has no son or circumstances seem to be making that problematic, the courtiers may get into the act. A Succession Crisis SuccessionCrisis can be unpleasant all around. This is done commonly with a grieving widow Queen queen or widower King, king, who is likely to be told YouHaveWaitedLongEnough with great promptness.

Even in the fortunate case where the King king has a healthy male heir, this only secures the monarchy for one generation. As soon as that son comes of age, he will start feeling pressure to [[IWantGrandkids marry and produce an heir of his own]]. Furthermore, only one child is dangerous; surely you need [[SpareToTheThrone at least two]] to guard against tragedy. This is one of the few situations where either MyBiologicalClockIsTicking or IWantGrandkids is likely to [[AlwaysFemale apply to a male character]].

Additionally, it's a good idea to guard against fraud. MamasBabyPapasMaybe may raise doubts about whether the baby is suitable. Some monarchs will avoid putting all their eggs in one basket and make the spare a HiddenBackupPrince (bastards HiddenBackupPrince. (Bastards of the king are popular for fulfilling both these tropes).
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15th Jun '17 3:42:28 PM TompaDompa
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* In ''Film/TheDraughtsmansContract'', it is mentioned that Mr. Herbert doesn't believe in women owning property, leading to uncertainty as to what will become of his inheritance unless his daughter Mrs. Talmann has a son.
10th Jun '17 7:44:27 PM luiz4200
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* ''Film/TheMummy2017'': Ahmanet was the heir to her father's throne but lost the status as soon as her brother entered the line.
17th May '17 5:14:52 AM Clare
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* ''Literature/EarthsChildren'': Justified in-universe The Clan of the Cave Bear''. Since Clan women are inherently incapable of leadership, each clan is led by a man who invariably passes the leadership on to another male. The new leader is traditionally the oldest son of the previous leader, though there are exceptions. For example, Creb is the oldest son of a leader, but, because he is crippled and therefore unable to truly become a man in the eyes of the Clan, he has instead become his clan's Mog-ur (shaman), while his younger brother, Brun, is leader of the clan.

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* ''Literature/EarthsChildren'': Justified in-universe The in ''The Clan of the Cave Bear''. Since Clan women are inherently incapable of leadership, each clan is led by a man who invariably passes the leadership on to another male. The new leader is traditionally the oldest son of the previous leader, though there are exceptions. For example, Creb is the oldest son of a leader, but, because he is crippled and therefore unable to truly become a man in the eyes of the Clan, he has instead become his clan's Mog-ur (shaman), while his younger brother, Brun, is leader of the clan.
4th May '17 3:20:32 PM AthenaBlue
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* In ''Film/PansLabyrinth'', Captain Vidal is determined to have a male heir no matter the cost to his wife or his stepdaughter.
* The fact that only males can inherit the throne in ''Film/{{Stardust}}'' means that Princess Una isn't a target of her other brothers, who are busy killing each other off because the law also demands that there be only one male contender. It helps they have no idea where she is.

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* In ''Film/PansLabyrinth'', Captain Vidal is determined to have a male heir no matter the cost to his wife or his stepdaughter.
* The fact that only males can inherit the throne in ''Film/{{Stardust}}'' means that Princess Una isn't a target of her other brothers, who are busy killing each other off because the law also demands that there be only one male contender. It helps they have no idea where she is.
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* Possible examples in ''Film/TheThiefOfBagdad''; Jaffar's stated reason for asking for the hand of the princess of Basra is that he wants to start a dynasty. The sultan of Basra then says, "I tried that once, and what have I got? A daughter!" (Of course, Jaffar ''is'' a usurper, for whom having a marriage and heir with royal blood would probably be a bit more important.)
* Frederich is shown praying desperately for a son in ''Film/SnowWhiteATaleOfTerror''. It seems to be the only reason he married Claudia as he is still in love with his dead wife. Claudia, who admitted to her mirror that she really loved him, is not happy when she realizes this.



* ''Film/YoungFrankenstein'': The deleted scene where the contents of Baron Frankenstein's will were revealed: On his will, Baron Frankenstein described Frederick as his only ''male'' heir and never considered leaving anything to his granddaughter.



* In ''Film/PansLabyrinth'', Captain Vidal is determined to have a male heir no matter the cost to his wife or his stepdaughter.
* Frederich is shown praying desperately for a son in ''Film/SnowWhiteATaleOfTerror''. It seems to be the only reason he married Claudia as he is still in love with his dead wife. Claudia, who admitted to her mirror that she really loved him, is not happy when she realizes this.
* The fact that only males can inherit the throne in ''Film/{{Stardust}}'' means that Princess Una isn't a target of her other brothers, who are busy killing each other off because the law also demands that there be only one male contender. It helps they have no idea where she is.
* Possible examples in ''Film/TheThiefOfBagdad''; Jaffar's stated reason for asking for the hand of the princess of Basra is that he wants to start a dynasty. The sultan of Basra then says, "I tried that once, and what have I got? A daughter!" (Of course, Jaffar ''is'' a usurper, for whom having a marriage and heir with royal blood would probably be a bit more important.)



* ''Film/YoungFrankenstein'': The deleted scene where the contents of Baron Frankenstein's will were revealed: On his will, Baron Frankenstein described Frederick as his only ''male'' heir and never considered leaving anything to his granddaughter.



* Downplayed in ''Literature/TheWitchlands'' -- Vivia is the heir to the Nubrevnan throne despite having a younger brother, but the Council gives her a lot of grief for being a woman and it's quite obvious that they'd rather marry her off to have a man on the throne or somehow get Merik to be the king. Vivia also notes that while there's no formal rule about the gender of the Council memebers, all women eligible for a seat end up sending a male relative in their stead. [[spoiler:At least until the end of the second book.]]

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* Downplayed in ''Literature/TheWitchlands'' -- Vivia is the heir to the Nubrevnan throne despite having a younger brother, but the Council gives her a lot of grief for being a woman and it's quite obvious that they'd rather marry her off to have a man on the throne or somehow get Merik to be the king. Vivia also notes that while there's no formal rule about the gender of the Council memebers, members, all women eligible for a seat end up sending a male relative in their stead. [[spoiler:At least until the end of the second book.]]



* ''Series/TheAdventuresOfShirleyHolmes'': As revealed in the intro, Literature/SherlockHolmes expected a "young ''man''" to solve his puzzle. Shirley didn't seem to mind.
** In [[spoiler:"The Case of the Rising Moon", a Princess was being targeted because some of her subjects didn't like the idea of a woman being their ruler]].
* ''Series/{{Attila}}'': Emperor Valentinian sits on the Roman throne despite being something of a halfwit controlled by an EvilMatriarch. His much brighter sister Honoria laments the fact that she can't rule because she's a woman and later attempts to [[TheStarscream overthrow him]] in a failed plot.
* Parodied on ''Series/TheDailyShow'' after newscasters started congratulating Kate Middleton on giving birth specifically to a boy as though this is an achievement, and preferable to giving birth to a girl, as opposed to a near fifty-fifty shot with no way to influence the process.
--> '''John Oliver:''' What would your response have been if it had been a girl? "Damnation upon your cursed womb, Catherine! Burn the princess, for she hath produced a baby of the weaker sex! Burn the princess! Burn them both! Burn them!"
* ''Series/DowntonAbbey'' has a plot related to the entail of the estate, which is a similar issue to the situation in ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice'' whereby the daughters cannot inherit and the male heir is somewhat distant to the family (he's the Earl's fifth cousin). Fortunately, the heir-presumptive is a young bachelor of an age where he could marry one of the current Earl's daughters -- particularly the eldest, Lady Mary -- and keep the property and title in the family. [[spoiler:He does -- marrying Mary (who, as it turns out, is [[PerfectlyArrangedMarriage perfect for him]]) and producing an heir -- but there's a lot of drama before they get there.]] Previously, Mary was set to marry another cousin, who was to be the heir. Then [[spoiler:the ''Titanic'' sunk with him on board, although a later episode reveals he may have survived]].
* A subversion occurs in ''Series/{{Farscape}}''. The crew lands on a Sebacean breakaway colony where succession goes to the eldest child regardless of gender, but the law states that a husband and wife must rule together. As such, the princess cannot become empress unless she finds a male who can give her children before she reaches a certain birthday (and, due to some gene poisoning by her brother, only Crichton fits the bill).
* The episode "Heart of Gold" of ''Series/{{Firefly}}'' has Burgess, a man who knocked up a whore and wants the child, as it is male, for an heir. And he didn't do it accidentally; rather, Burgess' wife is implied to be infertile and when he receives the news that it's a boy, his wife is present and appears to be as relieved as Burgess is.



* An episode of ''Series/TheWestWing'' features a muck-raking and inaccurate 'expose' memoir from a former staffer fired for incompetence which, amongst other things, alleges that the President wore special undergarments in order to produce a male heir when conceiving the child that ended up being his youngest daughter. The President is bemused, to say the least.
* The episode "Heart of Gold" of ''Series/{{Firefly}}'' has Burgess, a man who knocked up a whore and wants the child, as it is male, for an heir. And he didn't do it accidentally; rather, Burgess' wife is implied to be infertile and when he receives the news that it's a boy, his wife is present and appears to be as relieved as Burgess is.
* ''Series/TheTudors'' has this in spades, not surprisingly considering that it's a show about UsefulNotes/HenryVIII.

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* An This is the only reason LipstickLesbian Margot Verger sleeps with Will Graham in ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'': the only way she could get control of her family's company is if she produced a male heir, otherwise it'd go to a church when her brother Mason dies. [[spoiler: When Mason finds out what she is planning, he arranges a car 'accident' to get her in an operating room and sterilizes her, aborting her child in the process. He...[[{{Understatement}} doesn't like Margot much.]]]]
** This doesn't stop Margot however since in season 3 [[spoiler: with Hannibal's help she gets hold of Mason's sperm and her wife Alana uses it to become pregnant and give birth to a son.]]
* ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}'': When Uther couldn't get an heir, he turned to magic, and it gave him one, but cost him the life of his queen, Ygraine.
* The ''Series/{{NCIS}}''
episode of ''Series/TheWestWing'' "Newborn King" features a muck-raking and inaccurate 'expose' memoir Marine who was sent home after she got pregnant from a former staffer fired for incompetence which, amongst other things, alleges that the President wore special undergarments in order to produce fling with a male heir when conceiving the child that ended up being his youngest daughter. soldier from Afghanistan. The President is bemused, to say the least.
* The episode "Heart of Gold" of ''Series/{{Firefly}}'' has Burgess, a man who knocked up a whore and wants the child, as it is male, for an heir. And he didn't do it accidentally; rather, Burgess' wife is implied
father turned out to be infertile the only heir to a tribe that owned a valuable piece of land, and when he receives the news died, his family became ''very'' interested in getting their hands on that it's baby, sending a boy, trio of Russian mercenaries after the Marine. [[spoiler:It all ends up for naught, as not only does Team Gibbs subdue the mercenaries, but the Marine gives birth to a girl, who is ineligible to inherit.]]
* ''Series/ThePalace'' featured a haughty princess scheming to dethrone her younger brother by destroying
his wife is present and appears to reputation. (There was also another brother in line before her, but getting rid of him would be as relieved as Burgess is.
* ''Series/TheTudors'' has this
a [[RoyalBrat piece of cake]] -- assuming the public [[TheWrongfulHeirToTheThrone even let him become king]] in spades, not surprisingly considering that it's a show about UsefulNotes/HenryVIII.the first place.)



* ''Series/DowntonAbbey'' has a plot related to the entail of the estate, which is a similar issue to the situation in ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice'' whereby the daughters cannot inherit and the male heir is somewhat distant to the family (he's the Earl's fifth cousin). Fortunately, the heir-presumptive is a young bachelor of an age where he could marry one of the current Earl's daughters -- particularly the eldest, Lady Mary -- and keep the property and title in the family. [[spoiler:He does -- marrying Mary (who, as it turns out, is [[PerfectlyArrangedMarriage perfect for him]]) and producing an heir -- but there's a lot of drama before they get there.]] Previously, Mary was set to marry another cousin, who was to be the heir. Then [[spoiler:the ''Titanic'' sunk with him on board, although a later episode reveals he may have survived]].
* ''Series/ThePalace'' featured a haughty princess scheming to dethrone her younger brother by destroying his reputation. (There was also another brother in line before her, but getting rid of him would be a [[RoyalBrat piece of cake]] -- assuming the public [[TheWrongfulHeirToTheThrone even let him become king]] in the first place.)
* ''Series/{{Merlin|2008}}'': When Uther couldn't get an heir, he turned to magic, and it gave him one, but cost him the life of his queen, Ygraine.
* The ''Series/{{NCIS}}'' episode "Newborn King" features a Marine who was sent home after she got pregnant from a fling with a soldier from Afghanistan. The father turned out to be the only heir to a tribe that owned a valuable piece of land, and when he died, his family became ''very'' interested in getting their hands on that baby, sending a trio of Russian mercenaries after the Marine. [[spoiler:It all ends up for naught, as not only does Team Gibbs subdue the mercenaries, but the Marine gives birth to a girl, who is ineligible to inherit.]]



* A subversion occurs in ''Series/{{Farscape}}''. The crew lands on a Sebacean breakaway colony where succession goes to the eldest child regardless of gender, but the law states that a husband and wife must rule together. As such, the princess cannot become empress unless she finds a male who can give her children before she reaches a certain birthday (and, due to some gene poisoning by her brother, only Crichton fits the bill.)
* Parodied on ''Series/TheDailyShow'' after newscasters started congratulating Kate Middleton on giving birth specifically to a boy as though this is an achievement, and preferable to giving birth to a girl, as opposed to a near fifty-fifty shot with no way to influence the process.
--> '''John Oliver:''' What would your response have been if it had been a girl? "Damnation upon your cursed womb, Catherine! Burn the princess, for she hath produced a baby of the weaker sex! Burn the princess! Burn them both! Burn them!"
* ''Series/TheAdventuresOfShirleyHolmes'': As revealed in the intro, Literature/SherlockHolmes expected a "young ''man''" to solve his puzzle. Shirley didn't seem to mind.
** In [[spoiler:"The Case of the Rising Moon", a Princess was being targeted because some of her subjects didn't like the idea of a woman being their ruler]].
* This is the only reason LipstickLesbian Margot Verger sleeps with Will Graham in ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'': the only way she could get control of her family's company is if she produced a male heir, otherwise it'd go to a church when her brother Mason dies. [[spoiler: When Mason finds out what she is planning, he arranges a car 'accident' to get her in an operating room and sterilizes her, aborting her child in the process. He...[[{{Understatement}} doesn't like Margot much.]]]]
** This doesn't stop Margot however since in season 3 [[spoiler: with Hannibal's help she gets hold of Mason's sperm and her wife Alana uses it to become pregnant and give birth to a son.]]
* ''Series/{{Attila}}'': Emperor Valentinian sits on the Roman throne despite being something of a halfwit controlled by an EvilMatriarch. His much brighter sister Honoria laments the fact that she can't rule because she's a woman and later attempts to [[TheStarscream overthrow him]] in a failed plot.

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* A subversion occurs ''Series/TheTudors'' has this in ''Series/{{Farscape}}''. The crew lands on a Sebacean breakaway colony where succession goes to the eldest child regardless of gender, but the law states spades, not surprising considering that it's a husband show about UsefulNotes/HenryVIII.
* An episode of ''Series/TheWestWing'' features a muck-raking
and wife must rule together. As such, inaccurate "exposé" memoir from a former staffer fired for incompetence which, amongst other things, alleges that the princess cannot become empress unless she finds President wore special undergarments in order to produce a male who can give her children before she reaches a certain birthday (and, due to some gene poisoning by her brother, only Crichton fits heir when conceiving the bill.)
* Parodied on ''Series/TheDailyShow'' after newscasters started congratulating Kate Middleton on giving birth specifically to a boy as though this is an achievement, and preferable to giving birth to a girl, as opposed to a near fifty-fifty shot with no way to influence the process.
--> '''John Oliver:''' What would your response have been if it had been a girl? "Damnation upon your cursed womb, Catherine! Burn the princess, for she hath produced a baby of the weaker sex! Burn the princess! Burn them both! Burn them!"
* ''Series/TheAdventuresOfShirleyHolmes'': As revealed in the intro, Literature/SherlockHolmes expected a "young ''man''" to solve his puzzle. Shirley didn't seem to mind.
** In [[spoiler:"The Case of the Rising Moon", a Princess was
child that ended up being targeted because some of her subjects didn't like his youngest daughter. The President is bemused, to say the idea of a woman being their ruler]].
* This is the only reason LipstickLesbian Margot Verger sleeps with Will Graham in ''Series/{{Hannibal}}'': the only way she could get control of her family's company is if she produced a male heir, otherwise it'd go to a church when her brother Mason dies. [[spoiler: When Mason finds out what she is planning, he arranges a car 'accident' to get her in an operating room and sterilizes her, aborting her child in the process. He...[[{{Understatement}} doesn't like Margot much.]]]]
** This doesn't stop Margot however since in season 3 [[spoiler: with Hannibal's help she gets hold of Mason's sperm and her wife Alana uses it to become pregnant and give birth to a son.]]
* ''Series/{{Attila}}'': Emperor Valentinian sits on the Roman throne despite being something of a halfwit controlled by an EvilMatriarch. His much brighter sister Honoria laments the fact that she can't rule because she's a woman and later attempts to [[TheStarscream overthrow him]] in a failed plot.
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