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* In ''TheElderScrollsIVOblivion'', if you opt to go to prison after you get arrested, there's a random chance your Sneak and Security skills will go up ([[{{HandWave}} Handwaved]] as learning some technique from your fellow inmates). When you get out, you'll quickly be given an invitation to the ThievesGuild, which will make you into a more hardened and successful criminal. This can all be especially be notable if you went to jail for a crime as petty as ''stealing an apple''.
* In ''TheElderScrollsIVOblivion'', if you opt to go to prison after you get arrested, there's a random chance your Sneak and Security skills will go up ([[{{HandWave}} Handwaved]] as learning some technique from your fellow inmates). When you get out, you'll quickly be given an invitation to the ThievesGuild, which will make you into a more hardened and successful criminal. This can all be especially be notable if you went to jail for a crime as petty as ''stealing an apple''.
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-->'''Grif:''' Time moves slower on the inside. It seemed like seven or ''eight'' hours to me.
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* JohnDillinger mugged a bar when he was 19. Not much of a crime, but then he got sentenced to ten years in jail. There he met such criminals as Carl Mackey, who taught him the "Lamb Method" of bank robbery. Thus he began to become a legend.
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* JohnDillinger mugged Clyde Barrow started as a bar when he was 19. Not much of petty crook prior to meeting Bonnie Parker. He got arrested first for failure to return a crime, but rental car, and then for being caught with his brother Buck in a stolen truck of turkey. In 1930, he started a two year sentence at Eastham Prison Farm for robbery. In prison, Clyde was reportedly raped and beat another inmate to death. After he got out in February 1932, his crimes became more violent and more often involved murder. Some theorize that Bonnie and Clyde's crime spree from 1932 to May 1934 was not so much ForTheEvulz as it was Clyde seeking revenge against the Texas prison system.
* John Dillinger was 21 when in September 1924, he and a pool hall buddy named Ed Singleton robbed a Mooresville, Indiana grocer named Frank Morgan. Two days after the attack, Dillinger was arrested, and thinking the judge would be lenient enough to let him off if he plead guilty and apologized, he didn't bother to hire a lawyer. This was a big mistake, as the judge sentenced him toten years a 10-20 year sentence in jail. There he Indiana's Pendleton Reformatory. It was in Pendleton that Dillinger met such criminals as Carl Mackey, two of the partners who would be by his side during his infamous 1933-1934 bank robbery spree: Harry "Pete" Pierpont, and Homer Van Meter, both of whom were doing time for armed robberies (Van Meter for highway robbery on a train, Pierpont for bank robbery). All three of these guys were soon transferred to the Indiana State Penitentiary in Michigan City, where Dillinger met most of the other men who would be by his side, including Russell Clark, Charles Makley, and John "Red" Hamilton. They all taught him the "Lamb Method" art of bank robbery. Thus When Dillinger was paroled in May 1933, he began immediately started robbing banks in Indiana and Ohio for money that he used to become a legend.
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* John Dillinger was 21 when in September 1924, he and a pool hall buddy named Ed Singleton robbed a Mooresville, Indiana grocer named Frank Morgan. Two days after the attack, Dillinger was arrested, and thinking the judge would be lenient enough to let him off if he plead guilty and apologized, he didn't bother to hire a lawyer. This was a big mistake, as the judge sentenced him to
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* Arguably happens to Jean Valjean at the beginning of ''LesMiserables''. After being released from a ''very'' long prison term for stealing a loaf of bread (Which wasn't too long until he got it quadrupled for repeated escape attempts), he is unable to find work (Because nobody was willing to hire a thief - at least not at a wage he could live on) and is forced to resort to stealing more valuable goods to survive. An [[ItWasAGift unexpected act of mercy]] from the first person he robs after starting down this path leads to him undergoing a HeelFaceTurn.
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* Arguably happens to Jean Valjean at the beginning of ''LesMiserables''. After being released from a ''very'' long prison term for stealing a loaf of bread (Which wasn't too long was "only" five years until he got it quadrupled for repeated escape attempts), he is unable to find work (Because nobody was willing to hire a thief - at least not at a wage he could live on) and is forced to resort to stealing more valuable goods to survive. An [[ItWasAGift unexpected act of mercy]] from the first person he robs after starting down this path leads to him undergoing a HeelFaceTurn.
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* [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19455_5-common-crime-fighting-tactics-statistics-say-dont-work_p2.html This]] article from {{Cracked}} discusses how this trope plays out in RealLife. It claims that sentencing minor criminals to prison instead of, say, community service "puts you in a criminal mindset, as if spending all day and all night living with and talking to other criminals, completely immersed in their lifestyle and morals and way of thinking, makes you start to act like them."
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* [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19455_5-common-crime-fighting-tactics-statistics-say-dont-work_p2.html This]] article from {{Cracked}} {{Website/Cracked}} discusses how this trope plays out in RealLife. It claims that sentencing minor criminals to prison instead of, say, community service "puts you in a criminal mindset, as if spending all day and all night living with and talking to other criminals, completely immersed in their lifestyle and morals and way of thinking, makes you start to act like them."
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** Sociologists have been trying to raise awareness of this, asking people to apply the concept of prison to other situations. For example: "If you had a child who was behaving poorly, would it help to take that child out of society, and place them in an environment where they are surrounded, 24/7, by other troublemakers?"
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* In TheForemen's song about the failure of the California educational system, "[[http://www.royzimmerman.com/lyrics/best_cali.html California Couldn't Pay Our Education]]", in the end, California ''did'' pay their education, when it sent them to prison for petty theft, and they learned how to avoid getting caught again.
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* In ''TheDarkKnightRises,'' [[spoiler:it's implied that growing up in a HellholePrison is part of why Miranda Tate and Bane alike turned out the way they did.]]
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* In ''TheDarkKnightRises,'' ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises,'' [[spoiler:it's implied {{implied}} that growing up in a HellholePrison is part of why Miranda Tate and Bane alike turned out the way they did.]]
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* In ''TheDarkKnightRises,'' [[spoiler:it's implied that growing up in a HellholePrison is part of why Miranda Tate and Bane alike turned out the way they did.]]
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This is the idea that throwing people in jail makes them into worse criminals than they were before. Thrown in for petty crimes? Perhaps they may learn how to get away with serious crimes. Falsely convicted of crimes? Perhaps once absolved, they may get away with actual crimes [[CryingWolf partly because of the impression left by the false conviction]]... or may [[ThenLetMeBeEvil be "broken" into the criminals people think they are]]. Not to mention what they might have to do simply to ''survive'' such a brutal environment (kind of like HeWhoFightsMonsters, but more like He Who ''Survives'' Monsters).
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This is the idea that throwing people in jail makes them into worse criminals than they were before. Thrown in for petty crimes? Perhaps they may learn how to get away with serious crimes. Falsely convicted of crimes? Perhaps once absolved, they may get away with actual crimes [[CryingWolf partly because of the impression left by the false conviction]]... or may [[ThenLetMeBeEvil be "broken" into the criminals people think they are]]. Not to mention what they might have to do [[BreakTheCutie simply to ''survive'' to]] ''[[BreakTheCutie survive]]'' [[BreakTheCutie such a brutal environment environment]] (kind of like HeWhoFightsMonsters, but more like He Who ''Survives'' Monsters).
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* A short story in one DC comic had a man wrongfully convicted of a crime and sent to Arkham Asylum. By the time the error was discovered and the order to release him was given, the asylum and its unique blend of inhabitants had crushed his sanity.
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* Parodied by [[TheColbertReport Stephen Colbert]] with regards to Guantanamo Bay. He points out that, if someone falsely accused him of terrorism and sent him to prison, he'd come out wanting to kill the people who locked him up. Hence, even an innocent person locked up for terrorism is at risk of becoming a terrorist.
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* [[http://www.cracked.com/article_19455_5-common-crime-fighting-tactics-statistics-say-dont-work_p2.html This]] article from {{Cracked}} discusses how this trope plays out in RealLife. It claims that sentencing minor criminals to prison instead of, say, community service "puts you in a criminal mindset, as if spending all day and all night living with and talking to other criminals, completely immersed in their lifestyle and morals and way of thinking, makes you start to act like them."
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This is for the idea that throwing people in jail makes them into worse criminals than they were before. Thrown in for petty crimes? Perhaps they may learn how to get away with serious crimes. Falsely convicted of crimes? Perhaps once absolved, they may get away with actual crimes [[CryingWolf partly because of the impression left by the false conviction]]... or may [[ThenLetMeBeEvil be "broken" into the criminals people think they are]]. Not to mention what they might have to do simply to ''survive'' such a brutal environment (kind of like HeWhoFightsMonsters, but more like He Who ''Survives'' Monsters).
This trope often implies the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that going to jail ''never'' helps anyone reform or even abstain from committing more crimes.
This trope often implies the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that going to jail ''never'' helps anyone reform or even abstain from committing more crimes.
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This is for the idea that throwing people in jail makes them into worse criminals than they were before. Thrown in for petty crimes? Perhaps they may learn how to get away with serious crimes. Falsely convicted of crimes? Perhaps once absolved, they may get away with actual crimes [[CryingWolf partly because of the impression left by the false conviction]]... or may [[ThenLetMeBeEvil be "broken" into the criminals people think they are]]. Not to mention what they might have to do simply to ''survive'' such a brutal environment (kind of like HeWhoFightsMonsters, but more like He Who ''Survives'' Monsters).
This trope often implies the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that going to jail ''never'' helps anyone reform or even abstain from committing more crimes.
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This trope often implies the FamilyUnfriendlyAesop that going to jail ''never'' helps anyone reform or even abstain from committing more crimes.
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May double as a form of "NiceJobBreakingItHero" when there were good intentions behind sending someone to prison.
According to most research, this is TruthInTelevision.
According to most research, this is TruthInTelevision.
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May double as a form of "NiceJobBreakingItHero" NiceJobBreakingItHero when there were good intentions behind sending someone to prison.
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According to most research, this is TruthInTelevision.
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* After being captured in RedVsBlue, Grif claims this has happened to him and suggests he and Church rob a liquor store on their way home after they're let out... even though he's only been in jail for ''five hours.''
* After being captured in RedVsBlue, Grif claims this has happened to him and suggests he and Church rob a liquor store on their way home after they're let out... even though he's only been in jail for ''five hours.''
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* Arguably happens to Jean Verjean at the beginning of ''LesMiserables''. After being released from a ''very'' long prison term for stealing a loaf of bread (Which wasn't too long until he got it quadrupled for repeated escape attempts), he is unable to find work (Because nobody was willing to hire a thief - at least not at a wage he could live on) and is forced to resort to stealing more valuable goods to survive. An [[ItWasAGift unexpected act of mercy]] from the first person he robs after starting down this path leads to him undergoing a HeelFaceTurn.
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* Arguably happens to Jean Verjean Valjean at the beginning of ''LesMiserables''. After being released from a ''very'' long prison term for stealing a loaf of bread (Which wasn't too long until he got it quadrupled for repeated escape attempts), he is unable to find work (Because nobody was willing to hire a thief - at least not at a wage he could live on) and is forced to resort to stealing more valuable goods to survive. An [[ItWasAGift unexpected act of mercy]] from the first person he robs after starting down this path leads to him undergoing a HeelFaceTurn.
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* The idea of learning to commit more serious crimes is parodied in ''{{Discworld}}'', where the Ankh-Morpork Thieves' Guild, an entirely legal organisation, runs official classes in the city's main prison, the Tanty.
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* The idea of learning to commit more serious crimes is parodied in ''{{Discworld}}'', ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', where the Ankh-Morpork Thieves' Guild, an entirely legal organisation, runs official classes in the city's main prison, the Tanty.
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* StacyKeach is an [[InvertedTrope inversion]]. He was caught smuggling drugs in [[TheEighties the eighties]] and thrown in prison. The warden there wound up being such a positive influence on his life that he's been on the straight and narrow since and based the character of Warden Pope in PrisonBreak off that warden.
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* [[{{Batman}} Bane]] was born and raised in an island prison with a less-than-sympathetic warden. Guess how he turned out...
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* [[{{Batman}} Bane]] was born and raised in an island prison with a less-than-sympathetic warden. Guess how he turned out...
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* In ''{{Spider-Man The Animated Series}}'', this is how The Kingpin came to be — originally sent to prison for larcency, after one of his dad's scams went south and his bulk prevented him from following his father up a fire escape. Once he comes out, [[spoiler:he's got 'connections', and uses what he's learned to begin building his criminal empire]].
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* In ''{{Spider-Man ''WesternAnimation/{{Spider-Man The Animated Series}}'', this is how The Kingpin came to be — originally sent to prison for larcency, after one of his dad's scams went south and his bulk prevented him from following his father up a fire escape. Once he comes out, [[spoiler:he's got 'connections', and uses what he's learned to begin building his criminal empire]].
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** "[[TearJerker Now let's go say a prayer for]] [[NotSoDifferent a boy who couldn't run as fast as I could.]]"
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* JohnDillenger mugged a bar when he was 19. Not much of a crime, but then he got sentenced to ten years in jail. There he met such criminals as Carl Mackey, who taught him the "Lamb Method" of bank robbery. Thus he began to become a legend.
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* JohnDillenger JohnDillinger mugged a bar when he was 19. Not much of a crime, but then he got sentenced to ten years in jail. There he met such criminals as Carl Mackey, who taught him the "Lamb Method" of bank robbery. Thus he began to become a legend.
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* JohnDillenger mugged a bar when he was 19. Not much of a crime, but then he got sentenced to ten years in jail. There he met such criminals as Carl Mackey, who taught him the "Lamb Method" of bank robbery. Thus he began to become a legend.
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* Arguably happens to Jean Verjean at the beginning of ''LesMiserables''. After being released from a ''very'' long prison term for stealing a loaf of bread (Which wasn't too long until he got it quadrupled for repeated escape attempts), he is unable to find work (Because nobody was willing to hire a thief - at least not at a wage he could live on) and is forced to resort to stealing more valuable goods to survive. An [[ItWasAGift unexpected act of mercy]] from the first person he robs after starting down this path leads to him undergoing a HeelFaceTurn.
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The Animated crew supposedly spent 50 years in stasis and Wasp was convicted before Bumblebee and Bulkhead joined the crew.
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* Wasp, from ''TransformersAnimated'', gets falsely arrested as a Decepticon spy in the backstory (shown in a flashback episode). By the time he escapes over half a decade later, century later (Cybertronians are long-lived), he's almost [[LordOfTheRings Gollum-like]] in his insanity.
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* ''DeadmanWonderland'' has [[spoiler:Senji, AKA Crow]]. Inside prison: BloodKnight, HeroicSociopath, Type IV AntiHero at best. Outside prison: [[spoiler:[[TheLastDj The last honest cop on the force.]]]]
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* Discussed in the {{Spenser}} short story ''Surrogate'', regarding a man who was paid to rape a woman by her ex-husband, who met him while teaching a convict education program. Somewhat more ambivalent than many of the other examples.
-->'''Spenser:''' Lot of guys like him in the joint. Sometimes, I suppose, it’s the joint makes them like that. Sometimes being like that gets them into the joint in the first place.
-->'''Spenser:''' Lot of guys like him in the joint. Sometimes, I suppose, it’s the joint makes them like that. Sometimes being like that gets them into the joint in the first place.
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