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23rd Aug '16 7:44:01 PM Argon2
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Compare ArbitraryGunPower, NeverBringAKnifeToAFistfight, and contrast TheLethalConnotationOfGunsAndOthers, MugglesDoItBetter. See also ElegantWeaponForAMoreCivilizedAge and FantasyGunControl. This trope is often an attempt to avert JustShootHim.

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Compare ArbitraryGunPower, NeverBringAKnifeToAFistfight, and contrast TheLethalConnotationOfGunsAndOthers, MugglesDoItBetter. See also ElegantWeaponForAMoreCivilizedAge and FantasyGunControl. This trope is often an attempt to avert JustShootHim.
WhyDontYouJustShootHim.
23rd Aug '16 7:39:36 PM Argon2
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Compare ArbitraryGunPower, NeverBringAKnifeToAFistfight, and contrast TheLethalConnotationOfGunsAndOthers, MugglesDoItBetter. See also ElegantWeaponForAMoreCivilizedAge and FantasyGunControl.

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Compare ArbitraryGunPower, NeverBringAKnifeToAFistfight, and contrast TheLethalConnotationOfGunsAndOthers, MugglesDoItBetter. See also ElegantWeaponForAMoreCivilizedAge and FantasyGunControl.
FantasyGunControl. This trope is often an attempt to avert JustShootHim.
19th Jul '16 4:07:03 AM WillBGood
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** In-universe, the description given for the Lasgun states that it can take off limbs and cause fatal burns against most conventional targets (i.e: other humans) and it's destructive force is comparable to that of a modern-day AK-47. The Bolt Pistol, standard sidearm to any Space Marine, is a one-handed RPG launcher. The problem is though, the targets are usually monsters with shells thicker than most structurally sound bunkers, supersoldiers clad in power armor surrounded by a forcefield/daemonic energies, undead skeletal machines that can regenerate their steel, and {{Eldritch Abomination}}s that defy reality with every breath.

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** In-universe, the description given for the Lasgun states that it can take off limbs and cause fatal burns against most conventional targets (i.e: other humans) and it's its destructive force is comparable to that of a modern-day AK-47. The Bolt Pistol, standard sidearm to any Space Marine, is a one-handed RPG launcher. The problem is though, the targets are usually monsters with shells thicker than most structurally sound bunkers, supersoldiers clad in power armor surrounded by a forcefield/daemonic energies, undead skeletal machines that can regenerate their steel, and {{Eldritch Abomination}}s that defy reality with every breath.
11th Jul '16 11:08:57 AM Helvetica
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* Played around with in ''Videogame/{{Bloodborne}}''. While firearm damage is sort of pathetic compared to melee, and ammunition is scarce, they have absolutely staggering stopping power, which can get you out of a sticky situation and give an opening for a high-damage counterattack in a single well-timed blast. It is justified in that the guns the player uses have [[DepletedPhlebotinumShells specialized ammo]] named Quicksilver Bullets, a mixture of mercury and magic blood. They lack the damage of normal bullets but can fit [[UniversalAmmunition any Hunter-deigned gun]] or be used as a medium for magic.

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* Played around with in ''Videogame/{{Bloodborne}}''. While firearm damage is sort of pathetic compared to melee, and ammunition is scarce, they have absolutely staggering stopping power, which can get you out of a sticky situation and give an opening for a high-damage counterattack in a single well-timed blast. It is justified in that the guns the player uses have [[DepletedPhlebotinumShells specialized ammo]] named Quicksilver Bullets, a mixture of mercury and magic blood. They lack the damage of normal bullets but can fit [[UniversalAmmunition any Hunter-deigned gun]] or be used as a medium for magic. It can be averted however, if you level up the "Bloodtinge" stat [[UpToEleven high enough,]] certain guns can down bosses ruthlessly and efficiently.
28th Jun '16 5:56:06 AM TheBigBopper
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* Played with in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan''. While huge cannons rip through Titans easily due to Titans being MadeOfPlasticine, the Titan's HealingFactor doesn't let it keep them down for more than a few minutes, and while the have more than enough power to blow away [[AttackItsWeakPoint the back of the Titans' necks]], they're too heavy and inaccurate to do so outside of a lucky hit. However it is somewhat averted that cannons are used effectively to slow down Titans and give civilians time to evacuate. Also, high-explosive shells are used to wipe out Titans in during the end of the Battle of Trost. And when [[spoiler:Titans are sighted within Wall Rose]], the Garrison used cannons to bring down Titans and let elite soldiers like Rico finish them off. Rifles, on the other hand, while light and accurate enough to hit the weak point, do not have enough power behind them to deal the fatal blow needed. As with cannons, however, they have shown to be useful in supporting those with 3DMG, and dealing damage to Titan's weaker parts, such as the eyes.

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* Played with in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan''. While huge cannons rip through Titans easily due to Titans being MadeOfPlasticine, the Titan's HealingFactor doesn't let it keep them down for more than a few minutes, and while the have more than enough power to blow away [[AttackItsWeakPoint the back of the Titans' necks]], they're too heavy and inaccurate to do so outside of a lucky hit. However it is somewhat averted downplayed in that cannons are used effectively to slow down Titans and give civilians time to evacuate. Also, high-explosive shells are used to wipe out Titans in during the end of the Battle of Trost. And when [[spoiler:Titans are sighted within Wall Rose]], the Garrison used cannons to bring down Titans and let elite soldiers like Rico finish them off. Rifles, on the other hand, while light and accurate enough to hit the weak point, do not have enough power behind them to deal the fatal blow needed. As with cannons, however, they have shown to be useful in supporting those with 3DMG, and dealing damage to Titan's weaker parts, such as the eyes.
9th Jun '16 10:46:39 PM Morgenthaler
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** In ''Movie/JurassicPark'', Alan Grant's SPAS-12 loaded with slugs proved unable to even hit velociraptors behind glass, and the weapon suffered a stovepipe jam in the end.
** In ''Movie/TheLostWorld:JurassicPark'', the hunters pretty much killed nothing with their automatic rifles, and Ronald Tembo's double rifle was unable to take down a T-rex, because [[SarcasmMode good guy]] [[DesignatedHero Nick]] stole the bullets.
** The mercenaries in ''Movie/JurassicParkIII'' open fire with Barrett M82s into the jungle, but drop them and run when confronted by a Spinosaurus.
** The leading character Owen Grady in ''Movie/JurassicWorld'' uses a formidable .45-70 lever-action rifle, but it could not even tickle the Indominus Rex during the last battle.

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** In ''Movie/JurassicPark'', ''Film/JurassicPark'', Alan Grant's SPAS-12 loaded with slugs proved unable to even hit velociraptors behind glass, and the weapon suffered a stovepipe jam in the end.
** In ''Movie/TheLostWorld:JurassicPark'', ''Film/TheLostWorldJurassicPark'', the hunters pretty much killed nothing with their automatic rifles, and Ronald Tembo's double rifle was unable to take down a T-rex, because [[SarcasmMode good guy]] [[DesignatedHero Nick]] stole the bullets.
** The mercenaries in ''Movie/JurassicParkIII'' ''Film/JurassicParkIII'' open fire with Barrett M82s into the jungle, but drop them and run when confronted by a Spinosaurus.
** The leading character Owen Grady in ''Movie/JurassicWorld'' ''Film/JurassicWorld'' uses a formidable .45-70 lever-action rifle, but it could not even tickle the Indominus Rex during the last battle.
9th Jun '16 4:37:12 PM FGHIK
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** In ''Movie/TheLostWorld:JurassicPark'', the hunters pretty much killed nothing with their automatic rifles, and Ronald Tembo's double rifle was unable to take down a T-rex, because good guy Nick stole the bullets.

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** In ''Movie/TheLostWorld:JurassicPark'', the hunters pretty much killed nothing with their automatic rifles, and Ronald Tembo's double rifle was unable to take down a T-rex, because [[SarcasmMode good guy Nick guy]] [[DesignatedHero Nick]] stole the bullets.
4th May '16 3:18:07 PM Alceister
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** Musashi was a great proponent of a musket because he himself probably had a lot of experience ''wielding'' one. He was for much of his career a ''ronin'' of unclear origin, and while he definitely fought in the Battle of Sekigahara, it was probably on the wrong side (which would explain the whole ''ronin'' thing). All these things considered, his original career would've most realistically been a one of an ''ashigaru'' musketeer, before he turned himself to the way of sword.

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** Musashi was a great proponent of a musket because he himself probably had a lot of experience ''wielding'' one. He was for much of his career a ''ronin'' of unclear origin, and while he definitely fought in the Battle of Sekigahara, it was probably on the wrong side (which would explain the whole ''ronin'' thing). All these things considered, his original career would've most realistically been a one was likely that of an ''ashigaru'' musketeer, arquebusier, before he turned himself to the way of sword.
10th Apr '16 10:18:49 PM Alceister
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** Musashi was a great proponent of a musket because he himself probably had a lot of experience ''wielding'' one. He was for much of his career a ''ronin'' of unclear origin, and while he definitely fought in the Battle of Sekigahara, it was probably on the wrong side (which would explain the whole ''ronin'' thing). All these things considered, hisoriginal career would've most realistically been a one of an ''ashigaru'' musketeer, before he turned himself to the way of sword.

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** Musashi was a great proponent of a musket because he himself probably had a lot of experience ''wielding'' one. He was for much of his career a ''ronin'' of unclear origin, and while he definitely fought in the Battle of Sekigahara, it was probably on the wrong side (which would explain the whole ''ronin'' thing). All these things considered, hisoriginal his original career would've most realistically been a one of an ''ashigaru'' musketeer, before he turned himself to the way of sword.
30th Mar '16 11:42:56 AM desslok
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** And then in a later 10th Doctor episode, UNIT was able to adapt their bullets to work against the Sontarans after they were rendered non-functional.
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