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* Music/{{Slipknot}}, if you don't consider them NuMetal
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* Westfield Massacre (along with deathcore here and there, which is not surprising when you consider that they are essentially a continuation of Divine Heresy minus Dino Cazares)
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** The codifiers for djent are, djenerally, considered to be {{Music/Periphery}} and Music/AnimalsAsLeaders.
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'''Groove metal''' is, naturally, a subgenre of Music/HeavyMetal. Considered either an evolution of ThrashMetal or a return to metal's blues-rock roots, groove metal is characterised by bluesy, slow-to-mid-tempo guitar riffs and HarshVocals. It's a very obscure genre name, but the bands from the genre are not.
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'''Groove metal''' is, naturally, a subgenre of Music/HeavyMetal.HeavyMetal. Considered either an evolution of ThrashMetal or a return to metal's blues-rock roots, groove metal is characterised by bluesy, slow-to-mid-tempo guitar riffs and HarshVocals. It's a very obscure genre name, but the bands from the genre are not.
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* Music/{{Periphery}} (The current face of the subgenre)
* Music/{{SikTh}} (co-TropeCodifier, also NuMetal. The EnsembleDarkhorse of the subgenre)
* Music/{{SikTh}} (co-TropeCodifier, also NuMetal. The EnsembleDarkhorse of the subgenre)
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* Music/{{Periphery}} (The current face [[TropeCodifier face]] of the subgenre)
* Music/{{SikTh}}(co-TropeCodifier, (early TropeCodifier, also NuMetal. The EnsembleDarkhorse of the subgenre)
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** As you might have seen with Pantera's example above, groove metal '''can''' get to level 11, although it's rare. Other than "Suicide Note Pt. II" (which is more of a borderline 11), the only other band who has ever reached that level is Meshuggah.
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* Erra (Also has some strong {{Metalcore}} influences)
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* Mnemic (Overlaps with NuMetal and Industrial)
* {{Nevermore}} (UrExample; quite possibly the only djent band ever that overlaps with PowerMetal)
* {{Periphery}} (The current face of the subgenre)
* {{SikTh}} (co-TropeCodifier, also NuMetal. The EnsembleDarkhorse of the subgenre)
* Sybreed (overlaps with Industrial and MelodicDeathMetal)
* Tesseract (an incredibly rare example that only uses clean vocals; also a respected example)
* Textures (another EnsembleDarkhorse due to their unique and atmospheric sound)
* Threat Signal (Also MelodicDeathMetal)
* Veil of Maya (also {{Deathcore}})
* Vildhjarta
* Volumes
* Xerath (mixed with SymphonicMetal)
* Mnemic (Overlaps with NuMetal and Industrial)
* {{Nevermore}} (UrExample; quite possibly the only djent band ever that overlaps with PowerMetal)
* {{Periphery}} (The current face of the subgenre)
* {{SikTh}} (co-TropeCodifier, also NuMetal. The EnsembleDarkhorse of the subgenre)
* Sybreed (overlaps with Industrial and MelodicDeathMetal)
* Tesseract (an incredibly rare example that only uses clean vocals; also a respected example)
* Textures (another EnsembleDarkhorse due to their unique and atmospheric sound)
* Threat Signal (Also MelodicDeathMetal)
* Veil of Maya (also {{Deathcore}})
* Vildhjarta
* Volumes
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*Mnemic Music/{{Mnemic}} (Overlaps with NuMetal and Industrial)
*{{Nevermore}} Music/{{Nevermore}} (UrExample; quite possibly the only djent band ever that overlaps with PowerMetal)
*{{Periphery}} Music/{{Periphery}} (The current face of the subgenre)
*{{SikTh}} Music/{{SikTh}} (co-TropeCodifier, also NuMetal. The EnsembleDarkhorse of the subgenre)
*Sybreed Music/{{Sybreed}} (overlaps with Industrial and MelodicDeathMetal)
*Tesseract Music/{{Tesseract}} (an incredibly rare example that only uses clean vocals; also a respected example)
*Textures Music/{{Textures}} (another EnsembleDarkhorse due to their unique and atmospheric sound)
*Threat Signal Music/ThreatSignal (Also MelodicDeathMetal)
*Veil of Maya Music/VeilOfMaya (also {{Deathcore}})
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* Chimaira (along with {{Metalcore}})
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* Brujeria
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* Cavalera Conspiracy
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*Brujeria
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*Byzantine
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* Disciple (mainly their early material, but some of their later material still falls under the genre)
* Divine Heresy (along with {{Metalcore}}, also has {{Deathcore}} elements here and there)
* Exhorder (usually considered the TropeMaker, but they were an aggressive, death metal-tinged thrash group on ''Slaughter in the Vatican'' and didn't assume a groovy sound until ''The Law'', which hit the market around two years after ''Cowboys from Hell'')
* FearFactory (mixed with IndustrialMetal, DeathMetal, AlternativeMetal, ThrashMetal, and even a little bit of NuMetal)
* FiveFingerDeathPunch (Also AlternativeMetal)
* Gojira (also DeathMetal, TechnicalDeathMetal, ProgressiveMetal)
* Grip Inc.
* Haji's Kitchen (also ProgressiveMetal, and Grunge for their early material)
* Dharmata ( mixed with new metal and some vaguely {{deathcore}}ish riffs)
* Dirge Within
* Disciple (mainly their early material, but some of their later material still falls under the genre)
* Divine Heresy (along with {{Metalcore}}, also has {{Deathcore}} elements here and there)
* Exhorder (usually considered the TropeMaker, but they were an aggressive, death metal-tinged thrash group on ''Slaughter in the Vatican'' and didn't assume a groovy sound until ''The Law'', which hit the market around two years after ''Cowboys from Hell'')
* FearFactory (mixed with IndustrialMetal, DeathMetal, AlternativeMetal, ThrashMetal, and even a little bit of NuMetal)
* FiveFingerDeathPunch (Also AlternativeMetal)
* Gojira (also DeathMetal, TechnicalDeathMetal, ProgressiveMetal)
* Grip Inc.
* Haji's Kitchen (also ProgressiveMetal, and Grunge for their early material)
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* [=DevilDriver=] Music/{{DevilDriver}} (also MelodicDeathMetal)
*Dharmata Music/{{Dharmata}} ( mixed with new metal and some vaguely {{deathcore}}ish riffs)
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*Disciple Music/{{Disciple}} (mainly their early material, but some of their later material still falls under the genre)
*Divine Heresy Music/DivineHeresy (along with {{Metalcore}}, also has {{Deathcore}} elements here and there)
*Exhorder Music/{{Exhorder}} (usually considered the TropeMaker, but they were an aggressive, death metal-tinged thrash group on ''Slaughter in the Vatican'' and didn't assume a groovy sound until ''The Law'', which hit the market around two years after ''Cowboys from Hell'')
*FearFactory Music/FearFactory (mixed with IndustrialMetal, DeathMetal, AlternativeMetal, ThrashMetal, and even a little bit of NuMetal)
*FiveFingerDeathPunch Music/FiveFingerDeathPunch (Also AlternativeMetal)
*Gojira Music/{{Gojira}} (also DeathMetal, TechnicalDeathMetal, ProgressiveMetal)
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* MachineHead (mixed with ThrashMetal, and with NuMetal on a couple of their albums)
* Nonpoint (later)
* LambOfGod ([[DeathMetal death]][[{{Grindcore}} grind]] early on. Became groove metal since ''As the Palaces Burn'')
* Lazarus A.D. (mixed with ThrashMetal)
* MachineHead (mixed with ThrashMetal, and with NuMetal on a couple of their albums)
* Nonpoint (later)
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*LambOfGod Music/LambOfGod ([[DeathMetal death]][[{{Grindcore}} grind]] early on. Became groove metal since ''As the Palaces Burn'')
* [[Music/LazarusAD Lazarus A.D. ]] (mixed with ThrashMetal)
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[[Music/ProPain Pro-Pain]]
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* [[RobZombie White Zombie]] (''La Sexorcisto'' onwards, mixed with IndustrialMetal)
* {{Slipknot}}, if you don't consider them NuMetal
* {{Soulfly}} (mixed with NuMetal on the early albums, and ThrashMetal / DeathMetal in their later albums)
* [[RobZombie White Zombie]] (''La Sexorcisto'' onwards, mixed with IndustrialMetal)
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* The Showdown Music/TheShowdown (recent material; mixed with Thrash and southern metal, with a distinct DeathMetal bent)
*{{Slipknot}}, Music/{{Slipknot}}, if you don't consider them NuMetal
*{{Soulfly}} Music/{{Soulfly}} (mixed with NuMetal on the early albums, and ThrashMetal / DeathMetal in their later albums)
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* TheScrappy - Amongst metalheads (especially on Metal-Archives), groove metal is fairly unpopular-possibly due to its similarity to, and its role in the formation of NuMetal[[note]]It doesn't help that some groove metal bands experimented with Nu metal themselves[[/note]]-though it doesn't get as much hate as deathcore or nu-metal.
** Within the genre, Hellyeah and Damageplan probably get the most hate due to a perception of not living up to [[Music/{{Pantera}} their drummer's legacy]].
** While Djent is fairly popular, it gets a very bad treatment from metalheads that is very similar to what NuMetal got, decrying it as stupid and unoriginal, with the prevailing sentiment being that it's a bunch of stolen Frederik Thordendal riffs mixed with treacly high-string noodling and effects-drenched droning leads under the pretense of "atmosphere". Prog fans hate it even more, viewing it as vapid, mindless, creatively stagnant, and absurdly formulaic, as well as decrying the "prog" label that is commonly attached to it due to the general absence of actual progression within the genre.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap[=/=]EnsembleDarkhorse: There are a good amount of Djent bands who are actually well respected by metalheads. Including Erra, SikTh, {{Meshuggah}}, {{Nevermore}}, and Music/AnimalsAsLeaders.
** Within the genre, Hellyeah and Damageplan probably get the most hate due to a perception of not living up to [[Music/{{Pantera}} their drummer's legacy]].
** While Djent is fairly popular, it gets a very bad treatment from metalheads that is very similar to what NuMetal got, decrying it as stupid and unoriginal, with the prevailing sentiment being that it's a bunch of stolen Frederik Thordendal riffs mixed with treacly high-string noodling and effects-drenched droning leads under the pretense of "atmosphere". Prog fans hate it even more, viewing it as vapid, mindless, creatively stagnant, and absurdly formulaic, as well as decrying the "prog" label that is commonly attached to it due to the general absence of actual progression within the genre.
* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap[=/=]EnsembleDarkhorse: There are a good amount of Djent bands who are actually well respected by metalheads. Including Erra, SikTh, {{Meshuggah}}, {{Nevermore}}, and Music/AnimalsAsLeaders.
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* UrExample - Pantere's ''Cowboys from Hell'' for groove metal in general. Meshuggah and Nevermore are this for djent.
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* UrExample -Pantere's Pantera's ''Cowboys from Hell'' for groove metal in general. Meshuggah and Nevermore are this for djent.
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* Born of Osiris (Also {{Deathcore}} and [[TechnicalDeathMetal Progressive Death Metal]]
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* After The Burial
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* Music/{{Deftones}} (UrExample, (co-TropeCodifier, also from ''White Pony'' onwards, have slowly gravitated towards the style. [[note]]Justified by the fact that the band, especially lead guitarist Stephen Carpenter, openly worships Meshuggah.[[/note]])
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I wouldn\'t call them the Ur Example, seeing as how they made their debut after \'\'Vulgar Display of Power.\"
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* TheScrappy - Amongst metalheads (especially on Metal-Archives), groove metal is fairly unpopular-possibly due to its similarity to, and its role in the formation of NuMetal-though NuMetal[[note]]It doesn't help that some groove metal bands experimented with Nu metal themselves[[/note]]-though it doesn't get as much hate as deathcore or nu-metal.
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* UrExample - Nevermore for groove metal in general, despite being PowerMetal to begin with. Deftones for djent.
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* UrExample - Nevermore - Pantere's ''Cowboys from Hell'' for groove metal in general, despite being PowerMetal to begin with. Deftones general. Meshuggah and Nevermore are this for djent.
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First of all, who played groove metal first? Let's not get into that. Mentioning Pantera, Exhorder and "stole from" in the same sentence is guaranteed to cause InternetBackdraft, so let's not have discussions about who stole from whom. [[note]][[{{Irony}} The members of Pantera and Exhorder are friends.]][[/note]]
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First of all, who played groove metal first? Let's not get into that. Mentioning Pantera, Exhorder and "stole from" in the same sentence is guaranteed to cause InternetBackdraft, so let's not have discussions about who stole from whom. [[note]][[{{Irony}} The members of Pantera and Exhorder are friends. Both parties think that the debate is stupid and pointless.]][[/note]]
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'''Do not''' confuse the genre with FunkMetal, which is a sub-genre of AlternativeMetal that focuses on bass playing and rhythm. The two genres, however, occasionally overlap, such as in the case of Soulfly.Due to it's roots in ThrashMetal, Groove metal is occasionally referred to as Post-Thrash
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'''Do not''' confuse the genre with FunkMetal, which is a sub-genre of AlternativeMetal that focuses on bass playing and rhythm. The two genres, however, occasionally overlap, such as in the case of Soulfly. Due to it's its roots in ThrashMetal, Groove groove metal is occasionally referred to as Post-Thrash Post-Thrash.
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'''Groove metal''' is, naturally, a subgenre of Music/HeavyMetal. Considered either an evolution of ThrashMetal or a return to metal's blues-rock roots, groove metal is characterised by bluesy, slow-to-mid-tempo guitar riffs and harsh vocals. It's a very obscure genre name, but the bands from the genre are not.
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'''Groove metal''' is, naturally, a subgenre of Music/HeavyMetal. Considered either an evolution of ThrashMetal or a return to metal's blues-rock roots, groove metal is characterised by bluesy, slow-to-mid-tempo guitar riffs and harsh vocals.HarshVocals. It's a very obscure genre name, but the bands from the genre are not.
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* DeadUnicornTrope - Groove metal is a rather ill-defined genre; no one's really sure if it is a spin-off of thrash metal or a more "bluesy" variant of metal, or something entirely different. While musical characteristics such as slow-to-mid-tempo riffs, bluesy solos, string bending and gravelly vocals are often used, there are so many exceptions that fans often argue about some bands that do not fall into the usual stereotypes.
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* DeadUnicornTrope - Groove metal is a rather ill-defined genre; no one's really sure if it is a spin-off of thrash metal or a more "bluesy" variant of metal, or something entirely different. While musical characteristics such as slow-to-mid-tempo riffs, bluesy solos, noodling, string bending and gravelly vocals are often used, there are so many exceptions that fans often argue about some bands that do not fall into the usual stereotypes.
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* TheScrappy - Amongst metalheads (especially on Metal-Archives), groove metal is fairly unpopular-possibly due to its role in the formation of NuMetal-though it doesn't get as much hate as deathcore or nu-metal. Within the genre, Hellyeah and Damageplan probably get the most hate due to a perception of not living up to [[Music/{{Pantera}} their drummer's legacy]].
** While Djent is fairly popular, it gets a very bad treatment from metalheads that is very similar to what NuMetal got, decrying it as stupid and unoriginal, with the prevailing sentiment being that it's a bunch of stolen Frederik Thordendal riffs mixed with treacly high-string noodling under the pretense of "atmosphere". Prog fans hate it even more, viewing it as vapid, mindless, creatively stagnant, and absurdly formulaic, as well as decrying the "prog" label that is commonly attached to it due to the general absence of actual progression within the genre.
** While Djent is fairly popular, it gets a very bad treatment from metalheads that is very similar to what NuMetal got, decrying it as stupid and unoriginal, with the prevailing sentiment being that it's a bunch of stolen Frederik Thordendal riffs mixed with treacly high-string noodling under the pretense of "atmosphere". Prog fans hate it even more, viewing it as vapid, mindless, creatively stagnant, and absurdly formulaic, as well as decrying the "prog" label that is commonly attached to it due to the general absence of actual progression within the genre.
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* TheScrappy - Amongst metalheads (especially on Metal-Archives), groove metal is fairly unpopular-possibly due to its role in the formation of NuMetal-though it doesn't get as much hate as deathcore or nu-metal.
** Within the genre, Hellyeah and Damageplan probably get the most hate due to a perception of not living up to [[Music/{{Pantera}} their drummer's legacy]].
** While Djent is fairly popular, it gets a very bad treatment from metalheads that is very similar to what NuMetal got, decrying it as stupid and unoriginal, with the prevailing sentiment being that it's a bunch of stolen Frederik Thordendal riffs mixed with treacly high-string noodling and effects-drenched droning leads under the pretense of "atmosphere". Prog fans hate it even more, viewing it as vapid, mindless, creatively stagnant, and absurdly formulaic, as well as decrying the "prog" label that is commonly attached to it due to the general absence of actual progression within the genre.
** Within the genre, Hellyeah and Damageplan probably get the most hate due to a perception of not living up to [[Music/{{Pantera}} their drummer's legacy]].
** While Djent is fairly popular, it gets a very bad treatment from metalheads that is very similar to what NuMetal got, decrying it as stupid and unoriginal, with the prevailing sentiment being that it's a bunch of stolen Frederik Thordendal riffs mixed with treacly high-string noodling and effects-drenched droning leads under the pretense of "atmosphere". Prog fans hate it even more, viewing it as vapid, mindless, creatively stagnant, and absurdly formulaic, as well as decrying the "prog" label that is commonly attached to it due to the general absence of actual progression within the genre.
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