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26th Sep '16 2:24:32 AM Tightwire
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* ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''
** A couple of servers give the Soldier a huge Cuban cigar, for the express purpose of making him ''more'' badass, as the description for the thing says. Nowadays he has a misc items, a pair of mutton chops, this gives him a pipe, complete with a visible trail of smoke.

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* ''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''
''VideoGame/TeamFortress2''. Smoking is era-correct, as it's set in the 60s, when smoking was cool.
** A couple of servers give make the Soldier a huge Cuban cigar, CigarChomper as he is in some of the short movies, for the express purpose of making him ''more'' badass, as the description for the thing says. Nowadays he has a misc items, a pair of mutton chops, this gives him a pipe, complete with a visible trail of smoke.



** This is era-correct; the game takes place in the sixties.



** The [[MissionControlIsOffItsMeds Administrator]] is often smoking in the comics, the same goes for her [[IdenticalGrandson Identical Grandmother]], Elizabeth.

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** The [[MissionControlIsOffItsMeds Administrator]] is often smoking in the comics, the same goes for her [[IdenticalGrandson Identical Grandmother]], Elizabeth. This would be evil smoking.
26th Sep '16 2:17:09 AM Tightwire
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* The smoker is ''very'' sexy.

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* The smoker is ''very'' sexy. And I mean ''seriously''.
6th Sep '16 9:55:59 AM ArthurEld
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* Literature/SherlockHolmes smokes a pipe in most adaptations of his story. Probably because the screechy violin and the fact that he did cocaine in the books made it a case of choosing the lesser evil. He also smokes cigarettes in the original stories, but that detail rarely makes it into other adaptations, probably at least in part because of the prominence of this trope.

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* In ''Literature/JohannesCabalTheDetective'' Johannes says he only smokes to be anti-social, while the villain Count Marechal is constantly smoking-with Cabal thinking to himself 'I'm at the mercy of a demented chain smoker.' In a later chapter, Marechal is listening to Cabal talk for some time and is said to be on his eight cigarette of Cabal's speech.
* Literature/SherlockHolmes smokes a pipe in most adaptations of his story. Probably because the screechy violin and the fact that he did cocaine drugs in the books made it a case of choosing the lesser evil. He also smokes cigarettes in the original stories, but that detail rarely makes it into other adaptations, probably at least in part because of the prominence of this trope.
5th Sep '16 10:39:44 AM DrPsyche
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* One of the Sisters from ''WesternAnimation/KuboAndTheTwoStrings'' smokes a pipe. Whilst pipes are normally more of a good example, it's rather sinister looking and elongated like the more conventionally evil cigarette holder. She's also able to cast powerful smoke-based magic from it.
5th Sep '16 7:01:02 AM erforce
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* ''Male'' users of cigarette holders are always Evil unless they're ThePinkPanther, Creator/HunterSThompson, or UsefulNotes/{{F|ranklinDRoosevelt}}DR (or an {{Expy}} thereof), who is allowed to use the holder by means of the GrandfatherClause.[[note]] (FDR himself once explained to a child that he used a cigarette holder because, "I promised my doctor that I would stay as far away as possible from a cigarette.")[[/note]]

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* ''Male'' users of cigarette holders are always Evil unless they're ThePinkPanther, WesternAnimation/ThePinkPanther, Creator/HunterSThompson, or UsefulNotes/{{F|ranklinDRoosevelt}}DR (or an {{Expy}} thereof), who is allowed to use the holder by means of the GrandfatherClause.[[note]] (FDR himself once explained to a child that he used a cigarette holder because, "I promised my doctor that I would stay as far away as possible from a cigarette.")[[/note]]
30th Aug '16 5:34:10 PM WickedIcon
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** In stoner friendly productions, a good smoker is someone that sticks to mostly soft natural psychoactives (marijuana, salvia, magic mushrooms, etc) and occasionally LSD, but this only applies when contrasted with someone that does hard drugs like meth, crack or Angel Dust.

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** In stoner friendly stoner-friendly productions, a good smoker is someone that sticks to mostly soft natural psychoactives (marijuana, salvia, magic mushrooms, etc) and occasionally LSD, but this only applies when contrasted with someone that does hard drugs like meth, crack or Angel Dust.Dust. Even then, the latter group may be treated with sympathy, rather than outright disdain.
28th Aug '16 1:17:39 PM DaibhidC
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** In the earlier days of the company, nearly every heroic character who was "respectable" (IE - Businessmen like Bruce Wayne or alien scientists from the future like Brainiac 5) was shown smoking pipes constantly.
** Franchise/{{Batman}} has been seen smoking a pipe in his Bruce Wayne identity as late as 1980 in an issue of New Teen Titans. He was addressing Robin in a fatherly way while relaxing in his armchair.

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** In the earlier days of the company, nearly every heroic character who was "respectable" (IE - Businessmen like Bruce Wayne or alien scientists from the future like Brainiac 5) was shown smoking pipes constantly. \n This remained the case for Dr Will Magnus, creator of Comicbook/TheMetalMen, to the extent that when he became a Metal Man himself called Veridium, he still had the pipe, generated from his own veridium body.
** Franchise/{{Batman}} has been seen smoking a pipe in his Bruce Wayne identity as late as 1980 in an issue of New ''New Teen Titans.Titans''. He was addressing Robin in a fatherly way while relaxing in his armchair.
13th Aug '16 2:05:17 PM nombretomado
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** Though his [[KingdomHearts other major appearance]] has his smoking habit replaced with him holding a reed in his mouth, and he's not seen to do much smoking in ''Advent Children''... but then he lights up a victory cigarette after blowing up a reactor in ''DirgeOfCerberus''. This may be because in ''Advent Children'' he appears very briefly and spends most of the time killing a gigantic monster, and ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts '' is a [[{{Disneyfication}} Disney game.]] In the [[Literature/KingdomHeartsI novelization]] of ''Kingdom Hearts'', however, he is described as smoking cigarettes. Seems they slipped that one [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar right past the radar]].

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** Though his [[KingdomHearts other major appearance]] has his smoking habit replaced with him holding a reed in his mouth, and he's not seen to do much smoking in ''Advent Children''... but then he lights up a victory cigarette after blowing up a reactor in ''DirgeOfCerberus''.''VideoGame/DirgeOfCerberus''. This may be because in ''Advent Children'' he appears very briefly and spends most of the time killing a gigantic monster, and ''VideoGame/KingdomHearts '' is a [[{{Disneyfication}} Disney game.]] In the [[Literature/KingdomHeartsI novelization]] of ''Kingdom Hearts'', however, he is described as smoking cigarettes. Seems they slipped that one [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar right past the radar]].
11th Aug '16 1:37:48 AM PaulA
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* In the Literature/VorkosiganSaga, there are a couple of examples:
** In [[Literature/CordeliasHonor Cordelia's Honor]], Cordelia's creepy psychotherapist Dr Mehta lights up at the start of a therapy session - though she doesn't inhale [[spoiler:because the smoke is actually a truth drug]].
** In [[Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice The Warrior's Apprentice]], Baz has to pretend he's a DrillSergeantNasty type, and insists that he can only do this if he has a cigar as a prop, since the man he's modelling his performance on was a CigarChomper.

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* In the Literature/VorkosiganSaga, there are a couple of examples:
''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'':
** In [[Literature/CordeliasHonor Cordelia's Honor]], ''Literature/ShardsOfHonor'', Cordelia's creepy psychotherapist Dr Mehta lights up at the start of a therapy session - -- though she doesn't inhale [[spoiler:because the smoke is actually a truth drug]].
** In [[Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice The Warrior's Apprentice]], ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice'', Baz has to pretend he's a DrillSergeantNasty type, and insists that he can only do this if he has a cigar as a prop, since the man he's modelling his performance on was a CigarChomper.
9th Aug '16 7:54:13 PM Willbyr
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* [[{{Hellsing}} Sir Integra Hellsing]] is known for smoking manly cigars, both because she's a BadAss, and because she's a {{Bifauxnen}}.
* Alan of ''{{MAR}}'' is a cigar-smoker who meets the "badass" exception.

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* [[{{Hellsing}} [[Manga/{{Hellsing}} Sir Integra Hellsing]] is known for smoking manly cigars, both because she's a BadAss, and because she's a {{Bifauxnen}}.
* Alan of ''{{MAR}}'' ''Manga/{{MAR}}'' is a cigar-smoker who meets the "badass" exception.
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