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8th Jun '16 10:24:27 AM thatmadork
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* Quite a few ''WebAnimation/DeathBattle'' matches have two heroic characters fighting against each other. The crowner has to be the [[MemeticMutation now-infamous]] ''[[Anime/DragonBallZ Goku]] vs. Franchise/{{Superman}}''.
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17th May '16 2:09:16 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* ''DeadliestWarrior'': While a lot of the modern military battles could be seen this way, it doesn't get more "good" than the police vs. police face-off that was Los Angeles {{SWAT|Team}} vs [[UsefulNotes/WeAreNotTheWehrmacht German GSG 9]]. For instance, in our traditional "why the two armies would be at war" WildMassGuess discussion, our most popular scenario was that the SWAT and GSG 9 were using non-lethal paint rounds in a simulation battle (in contrast to our "the United States and Israel, once long-time allies, are now in a cold war" scenario).

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* ''DeadliestWarrior'': ''Series/DeadliestWarrior'': While a lot of the modern military battles could be seen this way, it doesn't get more "good" than the police vs. police face-off that was Los Angeles {{SWAT|Team}} vs [[UsefulNotes/WeAreNotTheWehrmacht German GSG 9]]. For instance, in our traditional "why the two armies would be at war" WildMassGuess discussion, our most popular scenario was that the SWAT and GSG 9 were using non-lethal paint rounds in a simulation battle (in contrast to our "the United States and Israel, once long-time allies, are now in a cold war" scenario).
6th May '16 5:14:37 PM Eievie
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This is not when the characters on both sides are [[GreyAndGreyMorality somewhat]] [[WhiteAndGreyMorality sympathetic]], merely [[WellIntentionedExtremist believe in their own actions]] without being fully sympathetic, or are in a [[LetsYouAndHimFight temporary conflict by mistake]]. No, this is when both sides are unambiguously Good AND locked in a real conflict with each other.

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This is not when the characters on both sides are [[GreyAndGreyMorality somewhat]] [[WhiteAndGreyMorality sympathetic]], merely [[WellIntentionedExtremist believe in their own actions]] without being fully sympathetic, or are in a [[LetsYouAndHimFight temporary conflict by mistake]]. No, this is when both sides are unambiguously Good AND '''and''' locked in a real conflict with each other.



Expect to find one or more AlwaysLawfulGood races in such stories. This can tie into the philosophical struggle of what it means to be 'good'.

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Expect to find one or more AlwaysLawfulGood races in such stories. This can tie into the philosophical struggle of what it means to be 'good'.
"good".
27th Apr '16 6:35:05 PM Snowy66
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[[caption-width-right:350:[[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Whose side are you on?]]]]
15th Mar '16 2:49:37 AM Viira
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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'': In "Not What He Seems, [[spoiler: neither side is evil. Stan did commit a series of crimes, but it was to get his brother back who was trapped in some dimension. The federal agents, while [[InspectorJavert wrong about Stan's intentions]], [[SympatheticInspectorAntagonist were chasing after a guy who committed a pile of felonies like stealing toxic waste]]. And while Dipper and Mabel nearly ruined Stan's reunion with their brother, they were trying to stop what they learned was a device that could have [[ApocalypseHow destroyed the world]] ]].

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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'': In "Not What He Seems, Seems", [[spoiler: neither side is evil. Stan did commit a series of crimes, but it was to get back his brother back who was trapped in some dimension. The federal agents, while [[InspectorJavert wrong about Stan's intentions]], [[SympatheticInspectorAntagonist were chasing after a guy who committed a pile of felonies like stealing toxic waste]]. And while Dipper and Mabel nearly ruined Stan's reunion with their his brother, they were trying to stop what they learned was a device that could have [[ApocalypseHow destroyed the world]] ]].world]]]].
12th Mar '16 10:18:11 AM FordPrefect
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* In Lucha Libre feds, one of the most common causes of this trope is the [[HumiliatingWager "Parejas Suicidas" match]], where two "parejas" or {{tag team}}s face off and the losing teammates must then fight one another, to loser of the resulting one on one contest having to unmask or shave their head. Wrestling/{{CMLL}} has an annual "cage of death" where two teams compete to escape the structure but only the last person out has to remove a mask or go bald, which can result in a similar outcome should the rudos leave two tecnicos in. These types of "gambling matches" are some of the rare places where [[EvilVersusEvil heel vs heel]](rudo contro rudo?) is more common though.

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* In Lucha Libre feds, one of the most common causes of this trope is the [[HumiliatingWager "Parejas Suicidas" match]], where two "parejas" or {{tag team}}s face off and the losing teammates must then fight one another, to loser of the resulting one on one contest having to unmask or shave their head. Wrestling/{{CMLL}} has an annual "cage of death" where two teams compete to escape the structure but only the last person out has to remove a mask or go bald, which can result in a similar outcome should the rudos leave two tecnicos in. These types of "gambling matches" are some of the rare places where [[EvilVersusEvil heel vs heel]](rudo heel]] (rudo contro rudo?) is more common though.
23rd Feb '16 6:41:36 AM Gowan
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* In ''Film/{{Suffragette}}'' the main conflict is against the government, but the suffragists disagree among themselves about the methods used, and close to the end of the movie [[spoiler: the otherwise supportive husband of the pharmacist who is the head of the local movement tricks her into entering a closet and then locks her in to prevent her from going to a planned demonstration, because he fears her weak heart might not survive another beating by the police.]]

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* In ''Film/{{Suffragette}}'' the main conflict is against the government, but the suffragists disagree among themselves about the methods used, and close to the end of the movie [[spoiler: the otherwise supportive husband of the pharmacist who is the head of the local movement tricks her into entering a closet and then locks her in to prevent her from going to a planned demonstration, because he fears her weak heart might not survive another beating by the police.]] She is ready to die for the cause and furious at her husband, but saving someone's life is usually seen as a good thing.]]
23rd Feb '16 6:31:35 AM Gowan
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* In ''Film/{{Suffragette}}'' the main conflict is against the government, but the suffragists disagree among themselves about the methods used, and close to the end of the movie [[spoiler: the otherwise supportive husband of the chemist who is the head of the local movement tricks her into entering a closet and then locks her in, because he fears her weak heart might not survive another beating by the police.]]

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* In ''Film/{{Suffragette}}'' the main conflict is against the government, but the suffragists disagree among themselves about the methods used, and close to the end of the movie [[spoiler: the otherwise supportive husband of the chemist pharmacist who is the head of the local movement tricks her into entering a closet and then locks her in, in to prevent her from going to a planned demonstration, because he fears her weak heart might not survive another beating by the police.]]
23rd Feb '16 6:27:49 AM Gowan
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* In ''Film/{{Suffragette}}'' the main conflict is against the government, but the suffragists disagree among themselves about the methods used, and close to the end of the movie [[spoiler: the otherwise supportive husband of the chemist who is the head of the local movement tricks her into entering a closet and then locks her in, because he fears her weak heart might not survive another beating by the police.]]
19th Feb '16 9:33:53 AM JulianLapostat
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--> '''King Stannis''': Good men and true will fight for Joffrey, wrongly believing him the true king. A northman might even say the same of Robb Stark. But these lords who flocked to my brother's banners knew him for a usurper. They turned their backs on their rightful king for no better reason than dreams of power and glory, and I have marked them for what they are. Pardoned them, yes. Forgiven. But not forgotten.
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