History Main / GodwinsLaw

11th Apr '17 7:22:43 AM rjd1922
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->"Any off-topic mention of Hitler or Nazis will cause the thread it is mentioned in to come to an irrelevant and off-topic end very soon; every thread on {{Usenet}} has a constantly-increasing probability to contain such a mention."

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->"Any off-topic mention of Hitler [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler Hitler]] or Nazis will cause the thread it is mentioned in to come to an irrelevant and off-topic end very soon; every thread on {{Usenet}} Website/{{Usenet}} has a constantly-increasing probability to contain such a mention."



Occasionally Stalin is referenced, often by [[WrongGenreSavvy people who are aware of]] Godwin's Law but want to convey a similar message; in this case, this might slip into the CommieNazis trope. The Greek political party [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(political_party) Golden Dawn]] has also been used for the same purpose, though it is still mostly used in European parliaments and it is very likely that the only reason why is because only they know what it means. Some people will be topical and use terrorism or {{slavery|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} as the canonical ultimate evil. However, any of these can also be seen to have violated Godwin's Law, since the point remains: comparing your argument to a clear and non-debatable atrocity is simply bad debating, since it implies that the opposition has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and is obviously insensitive to real-life victims and their descendants.

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Occasionally Stalin UsefulNotes/JosefStalin is referenced, often by [[WrongGenreSavvy people who are aware of]] Godwin's Law but want to convey a similar message; in this case, this might slip into the CommieNazis trope. The Greek political party [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(political_party) Golden Dawn]] has also been used for the same purpose, though it is still mostly used in European parliaments and it is very likely that the only reason why is because only they know what it means. Some people will be topical and use terrorism or {{slavery|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} as the canonical ultimate evil. However, any of these can also be seen to have violated Godwin's Law, since the point remains: comparing your argument to a clear and non-debatable atrocity is simply bad debating, since it implies that the opposition has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and is obviously insensitive to real-life victims and their descendants.
30th Jan '17 11:37:40 PM Adept
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->''"You wanna know [[HitlerAteSugar who else]] used laws to stop debates? [[UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler HITLER]]!"''
24th Jan '17 7:06:16 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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This trope is (perhaps not surprisingly, given [[HumansAreBastards human nature]]) OlderThanTheyThink. Prior to UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, the go-to villains were generally [[Literature/TheBible Biblical]], such as the NephariousPharaoh from the Literature/BookOfExodus (often thought to be UsefulNotes/RamsesII), and Pontius Pilate and Judas Iscariot from the New Testament.

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This trope is (perhaps not surprisingly, given [[HumansAreBastards human nature]]) OlderThanTheyThink. Prior to UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, the go-to villains were generally [[Literature/TheBible Biblical]], such as the NephariousPharaoh from the Literature/BookOfExodus (often thought to be UsefulNotes/RamsesII), UsefulNotes/RamsesII) from the Literature/BookOfExodus, and Pontius Pilate and Judas Iscariot from the New Testament.
24th Jan '17 7:06:00 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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This trope is (perhaps not surprisingly, given [[HumansAreBastards human nature]]) OlderThanTheyThink. Prior to UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, the go-to villains were generally [[Literature/TheBible Biblical]], such as the NephariousPharaoh during the Exodus (often thought to be UsefulNotes/RamsesII), Pontius Pilate, or Judas.

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This trope is (perhaps not surprisingly, given [[HumansAreBastards human nature]]) OlderThanTheyThink. Prior to UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, the go-to villains were generally [[Literature/TheBible Biblical]], such as the NephariousPharaoh during from the Exodus Literature/BookOfExodus (often thought to be UsefulNotes/RamsesII), and Pontius Pilate, or Judas.
Pilate and Judas Iscariot from the New Testament.
24th Jan '17 7:05:14 PM VanHohenheimOfXerxes
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This trope is (perhaps not surprisingly, given [[HumansAreBastards human nature]]) OlderThanTheyThink. Prior to the 1940s, the go-to villains were generally [[Literature/TheBible Biblical]], such as the Pharaoh during the Exodus (often thought to be Rameses II), Pontius Pilate, or Judas.

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This trope is (perhaps not surprisingly, given [[HumansAreBastards human nature]]) OlderThanTheyThink. Prior to the 1940s, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, the go-to villains were generally [[Literature/TheBible Biblical]], such as the Pharaoh NephariousPharaoh during the Exodus (often thought to be Rameses II), UsefulNotes/RamsesII), Pontius Pilate, or Judas.
15th Sep '16 4:00:25 PM Aquila89
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George Orwell said something similar in his 1946 essay, "[[http://www.literaturecollection.com/a/orwell/454/ Politics and the English Language]]", where he noted the new definition of fascism had pretty much become "anything you don't agree with". There's also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQFU1y928dw a very catchy tune]] on the subject, as there is with most things.

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George Orwell Creator/GeorgeOrwell said something similar in his 1946 essay, "[[http://www.literaturecollection.com/a/orwell/454/ Politics and the English Language]]", where he noted the new definition of fascism had pretty much become "anything you don't agree with". There's also [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQFU1y928dw a very catchy tune]] on the subject, as there is with most things.
10th Sep '16 1:52:31 PM Siuwa
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Occasionally Stalin is referenced, often by [[GenreSavvy people who are aware of]] Godwin's Law but want to convey a similar message; in this case, this might slip into the CommieNazis trope. The Greek political party [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(political_party) Golden Dawn]] has also been used for the same purpose, though it is still mostly used in European parliaments and it is very likely that the only reason why is because only they know what it means. Some people will be topical and use terrorism or {{slavery|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} as the canonical ultimate evil. However, any of these can also be seen to have violated Godwin's Law, since the point remains: comparing your argument to a clear and non-debatable atrocity is simply bad debating, since it implies that the opposition has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and is obviously insensitive to real-life victims and their descendants.

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Occasionally Stalin is referenced, often by [[GenreSavvy [[WrongGenreSavvy people who are aware of]] Godwin's Law but want to convey a similar message; in this case, this might slip into the CommieNazis trope. The Greek political party [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(political_party) Golden Dawn]] has also been used for the same purpose, though it is still mostly used in European parliaments and it is very likely that the only reason why is because only they know what it means. Some people will be topical and use terrorism or {{slavery|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} as the canonical ultimate evil. However, any of these can also be seen to have violated Godwin's Law, since the point remains: comparing your argument to a clear and non-debatable atrocity is simply bad debating, since it implies that the opposition has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and is obviously insensitive to real-life victims and their descendants.
9th Sep '16 2:59:54 AM hydrix
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The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYgcM4ftiQ ''Internetiquette'']] short of the fifth episode of the Flemish investigative journalism series ''Basta''/''neveneffecten'', also showcases those 2 laws ("After a comparison with the Nazis there will always be a stupid guy that will refer to Godwin's law" is the second one) together with plenty of other laws that are present on the internet when they deconstructed the inner workings of an internet discussion. The thing is however as of yet only available in Dutch.

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The [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxYgcM4ftiQ ''Internetiquette'']] short of the fifth episode of the Flemish investigative journalism series ''Basta''/''neveneffecten'', ''Basta'' / ''neveneffecten'', also showcases those 2 laws ("After a comparison with the Nazis there will always be a stupid guy that will refer to Godwin's law" is the second one) together with plenty of other laws that are present on the internet when they deconstructed the inner workings of an internet discussion. The thing is however as of yet only available in Dutch.
9th Sep '16 2:56:45 AM hydrix
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Occasionally Stalin is referenced, often by [[GenreSavvy people who are aware of]] Godwin's Law but want to convey a similar message; in this case, this might slip into the CommieNazis trope. The Greek political party[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(political_party) ''Golden Dawn'']] has also been used for the same purpose, though it is still mostly used in European parliaments and it is very likely that the only reason why is because only they know what it means. Some people will be topical and use terrorism or {{slavery|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} as the canonical ultimate evil. However, any of these can also be seen to have violated Godwin's Law, since the point remains: comparing your argument to a clear and non-debatable atrocity is simply bad debating, since it implies that the opposition has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and is obviously insensitive to real-life victims and their descendants.

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Occasionally Stalin is referenced, often by [[GenreSavvy people who are aware of]] Godwin's Law but want to convey a similar message; in this case, this might slip into the CommieNazis trope. The Greek political party[[https://en.party [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(political_party) ''Golden Dawn'']] Golden Dawn]] has also been used for the same purpose, though it is still mostly used in European parliaments and it is very likely that the only reason why is because only they know what it means. Some people will be topical and use terrorism or {{slavery|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} as the canonical ultimate evil. However, any of these can also be seen to have violated Godwin's Law, since the point remains: comparing your argument to a clear and non-debatable atrocity is simply bad debating, since it implies that the opposition has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and is obviously insensitive to real-life victims and their descendants.
9th Sep '16 2:56:04 AM hydrix
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Occasionally Stalin is referenced, often by [[GenreSavvy people who are aware of]] Godwin's Law but want to convey a similar message; in this case, this might slip into the CommieNazis trope. Some people will be topical and use terrorism or {{slavery|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} as the canonical ultimate evil. However, any of these can also be seen to have violated Godwin's Law, since the point remains: comparing your argument to a clear and non-debatable atrocity is simply bad debating, since it implies that the opposition has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and is obviously insensitive to real-life victims and their descendants.

to:

Occasionally Stalin is referenced, often by [[GenreSavvy people who are aware of]] Godwin's Law but want to convey a similar message; in this case, this might slip into the CommieNazis trope. The Greek political party[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dawn_(political_party) ''Golden Dawn'']] has also been used for the same purpose, though it is still mostly used in European parliaments and it is very likely that the only reason why is because only they know what it means. Some people will be topical and use terrorism or {{slavery|IsASpecialKindOfEvil}} as the canonical ultimate evil. However, any of these can also be seen to have violated Godwin's Law, since the point remains: comparing your argument to a clear and non-debatable atrocity is simply bad debating, since it implies that the opposition has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and is obviously insensitive to real-life victims and their descendants.
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