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18th Apr '17 4:31:56 AM HighCrate
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* ''Film/GhostInTheShell'' could have been a great cyberpunk film with a badass female lead based from both Masamune Shirow's manga and Mamoru Oshii's film which was also based from the manga if it hadn't been affected by the controversial RaceLift of the female protagonist and the mediocre script. Despite the belief of Creator/ScarlettJohansson's casting would draw more box office power, it still flopped in the domestic box office and earned mixed to negative reviews. It did well in the international box office and the response from Japan was quite positive as they have no issue with the casting controversy but [[http://www.cbr.com/ghost-in-the-shell-box-office-bomb/ it's not enough to save the film]].
17th Apr '17 11:59:02 PM sayaleviathan
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* ''Film/GhostInTheShell'' could have been a great cyberpunk film with a badass female lead based from both Masamune Shirow's manga and Mamoru Oshii's film which was also based from the manga if it hadn't been affected by the controversial RaceLift of the female protagonist and the mediocre script. Despite the belief of Creator/ScarlettJohansson's casting would draw more box office power, it still flopped in the domestic box office and earned mixed to negative reviews. It did well in the international box office and the response from Japan was quite positive as they have no issue with the casting controversy but [[http://www.cbr.com/ghost-in-the-shell-box-office-bomb/ it's not enough to save the film]].
27th Mar '17 4:59:41 PM fearlessnikki
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* In general, {{Smart Mark}}s would often label any women's match as a 'piss break'. This is partly due to WWE's terrible use of women solely for {{Fanservice}} in the Attitude Era, and the Women's Championship being defended in various T&A style matches. And when the Divas broke out of the ghetto in the Ruthless Aggression Era, the division was suddenly buried with Diva Searches - that reduced the division to T&A once again and resulted in a lot of genuine wrestlers getting released in favour of models. But since about 2008, many Divas who began as models faced an uphill battle despite training to wrestle, and they would often be dismissed or labelled as using WWE as a stepping stone for other avenues. Only a handful managed to completely break out of the ghetto (Wrestling/MickieJames, Wrestling/BethPhoenix, Wrestling/NatalyaNeidhart, {{Wrestling/Melina}}) and reviews of Diva matches would tend to be rated very low, outside of websites like ''Diva Dirt''. This attitude seems to be dying off as of the popularity of NXT and many former Divas revealing just how hard things were for them [[ExecutiveMeddling behind the scenes]] - but you still find plenty of smarks who claim that women shouldn't be allowed to wrestle, citing the Diva matches as proof.



* Wrestling/{{TNA}} Impact Wrestling's women's division typically drew stronger ratings than most other quarter hours on the show, despite most of the women being amongst the lowest paid talent, though TNA eventually allowed the contracts of many members of its female roster to expire. Even after this, TNA was still the only national promotion in the USA since Wrestling/{{GLOW}} to run all women shows.

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* {{Wrestling/GLOW}} was a campy, ridiculous SoBadItsGood TV show in the 80s that ended up being quite a hit. It was an all-women's wrestling comedy show. The majority of on-screen characters were women and it lasted four seasons. The only reason it didn't last was because the main investor pulled out and they couldn't find anyone to finance it. While it's remembered as a GuiltyPleasure these days, this was still a time when women's wrestling was far from a mainstream thing outside of Japan.
* Wrestling/{{TNA}} Impact Wrestling's women's division typically drew stronger ratings than most other quarter hours on the show, despite most of the women being amongst the lowest paid talent, though TNA eventually allowed the contracts of many members of its female roster to expire. Even after this, TNA was still the only national promotion in the USA since Wrestling/{{GLOW}} to run all women shows. While the Knockouts division has fallen from grace in the eyes of fans, it's cited to be because of bad booking and backstage politics rather than the quality of wrestling.



* WWE has attempted to break the 'Diva' mold with some talent signings in later years, signing the former TNA Knockouts Champion [[Wrestling/KiaStevens Awesome Kong, aka Kharma]] and the highly regarded Wrestling/SaraDelRey. However, Kharma debuted, destroyed half the existing female roster outside of wrestling any actual matches, got pregnant, reappeared as a surprise entrant in the Royal Rumble but then left the company after it transpired that she had miscarried her child. Additionally, Del Rey has yet to debut with the company, being [[DemotedToExtra signed as a trainer]].



* The NXT Women's division has really broken out of it. Due to proper investment by the writers and getting actual time for matches, most of the NXT Divas have been very well received. The likes of {{Wrestling/Paige}}, Wrestling/{{Emma}} and Wrestling/{{Bayley}} have become very popular with fans - male and female. The women's division is consistently praised as one of the highlights of NXT. The live specials eventually went ahead and began treating the women's matches as high profile must-see encounters. And a match between Wrestling/SashaBanks and Bayley was announced as the main event of one - the first time a women's match had ''ever'' main evented a WWE PPV.

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* The NXT Women's division has really broken out of it. Due to proper investment by the writers and getting actual time for matches, most of the NXT Divas have been very well received. The likes of {{Wrestling/Paige}}, Wrestling/{{Emma}} and Wrestling/{{Bayley}} have become very popular with fans - male and female. The women's division is consistently praised as one of the highlights of NXT. The live specials eventually went ahead and began treating the women's matches as high profile must-see encounters. And a match between Wrestling/SashaBanks and Bayley was announced as the main event of one - the first time a women's match had ''ever'' main evented a WWE PPV. This escalated in 2016 where Sasha and Charlotte not only got the first women's Hell In A Cell match; they were the main event of a main roster PPV.
* When WWE re-introduced the brand split in 2016, the Smackdown women's division immediately became a shining light of the company. Multiple women's feuds and matches happened across the show, culminating in the 2017 Elimination Chamber PPV - where three women's matches took place on the show. What's more is that the Four Horsewomen[[note]]Sasha Banks, Bayley, Charlotte and Becky Lynch[[/note]] were mostly all on Raw - except for Becky - proving that the fans could indeed get invested in women outside that foursome.
7th Mar '17 7:51:46 PM dsneybuf
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* ''Disney/{{Moana}}'' went back to giving Disney Princess[[note]]or at least female royalty, as [[InsistentTerminology Moana would rather call herself a chief's daughter]][[/note]]-centric movies the heroine's name in the title, and teaser trailers that featured one of the original songs. Fortunately, it still managed to break $200M domestically. Since it marks the first Disney "Princess" movie since ''The Princess and the Frog'' with a cast consisting mostly of performers of color, this also counts as an instance of breaking out of the MinorityShowGhetto.

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* ''Disney/{{Moana}}'' went back to giving Disney Princess[[note]]or at least female royalty, as [[InsistentTerminology Moana would rather call herself a chief's daughter]][[/note]]-centric movies the heroine's name in the title, and teaser trailers that featured one of the original songs. Fortunately, it still managed to break $200M $240M domestically. Since it marks the first Disney "Princess" movie since ''The Princess and the Frog'' with a cast consisting mostly of performers of color, this also counts as an instance of breaking out of the MinorityShowGhetto.
19th Feb '17 10:31:51 PM Trey
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** The fact Arcee was part of the 2007 movie toy line is partly due to the fact she was supposed to be in the first movie. She was supposed to complete the original quintet of Autobots alongside Optimus Prime, Jazz, Ratchet and Bumblebee. Michael Bay did not like the character though, and she wound up cut from the film and replaced with Ironhide.
13th Feb '17 10:30:14 AM morenohijazo
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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' has female playable characters (princesses, to boot!) outnumbering male ones, and a [[LighterAndSofter gentler]] story that is more interested in the relationship between sisters Lenna and Faris and the inner feelings of teenage girl Krile than it is in the main male character, Bartz. Western fandom often criticises ''V'''s plot for being "weak" compared to other entries (despite being the first in the series to move away from ''TabletopGames/DungeonsAndDragons'' mythology and originating multiple ''FF'' {{Characteristic Trope}}s), and the first thing these people will bring up is that it's "all princesses".

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** ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'' has female playable characters (princesses, to boot!) outnumbering male ones, and a [[LighterAndSofter gentler]] story that is more interested in the relationship between sisters Lenna and Faris and the inner feelings of teenage girl Krile than it is in the main male character, Bartz. Western fandom often criticises ''V'''s plot for being "weak" compared to other entries (despite being the first in the series to move away from ''TabletopGames/DungeonsAndDragons'' ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' mythology and originating multiple ''FF'' {{Characteristic Trope}}s), and the first thing these people will bring up is that it's "all princesses".
12th Feb '17 12:45:08 PM jjeffrey01
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* ''Film/TheHungerGames'' received good reviews and hefty box office returns. In what the business calls a "four-quadrant" success (meaning it's popular with teen girls, teen boys, adult men and adult women), some 40% of opening-weekend viewers were guys. Its sequel, ''Film/TheHungerGamesCatchingFire'', became the #1 highest-grossing movie of its year, in terms of the North American box office.[[note]]It earned that title after New Year's Eve, though.[[/note]]

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* ''Film/TheHungerGames'' received good reviews and hefty box office returns. In returns, in what the business film industry calls a "four-quadrant" success (meaning success, meaning it's popular with teen girls, teen boys, adult men and adult women), some 40% of opening-weekend women, with male viewers were guys. accounting for 40% of its opening weekend business. Its sequel, ''Film/TheHungerGamesCatchingFire'', became was the #1 highest-grossing movie top-grossing film of its year, in terms of 2013 domestically, marking [[https://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/catching-fire-was-the-first-film-with-a-female-lead-to-top-t the North American first time in over forty years]] that a female-led film, and one without a male lead at that, topped the domestic box office.[[note]]It earned that title after New Year's Eve, though.[[/note]]
12th Feb '17 1:31:14 AM MorphinBrony
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* ''{{WesternAnimation/Daria}}'' has a tendency to focus on its female characters more often than the male ones, but quite a few boys and men like it, too.

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* ''{{WesternAnimation/Daria}}'' has a tendency to focus on its female characters more often than the male ones, but quite a few boys and men like it, too. It helps that it's a SpinOff of ''WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButtHead''.
10th Feb '17 10:02:44 AM HighCrate
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* Most [[BoyBand Boy Bands]] and male artists targeted towards young women suffer from this backlash due to how most of their content is designed to appeal to girls, particularly teenaged ones if not younger.
10th Feb '17 9:54:01 AM Sakubara
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* Most [[BoyBand Boy Bands]] and male artists targeted towards young women suffer from this backlash due to how most of their content is designed to appeal to girls, particularly teenaged ones if not younger.
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