History Main / Ghostapo

22nd Aug '16 3:16:47 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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* The Website/AlternateHistoryDotCom story ''[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/vivere-militare-est.242562/ Viviere Militare Est]]'' by rvbomally has, as its PointOfDivergence, the Nazis and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan unleashing preternatural weaponry in Europe and the Pacific in 1945, fueled by {{human sacrifice}}s in the form of UsefulNotes/TheHolocaust and Unit 731. This brings them BackFromTheBrink and allows them to start pushing back; the only thing stopping their renewed conquests is when the Allies deploy preternatural weaponry of their own, culminating in a "despoiler bomb" dropped on Kyoto that renders the city an uninhabitable EldritchLocation. By 2015, the world is locked in a multi-sided UsefulNotes/ColdWar between the Anglo-American alliance (with France as a stubbornly independent supporter), the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, and Imperial Japan, all of whom have lunar colonies and are armed with enough preternatural weaponry to destroy the fabric of reality around Earth, while many parts of the world (Poland, India, New Zealand, a vast swath of Africa) have gone to hell in a handbasket thanks to the occult run amok. And of course, there's the 'rogue state' of North Italy, run by surviving [[UsefulNotes/FascistItaly fascist diehards]] that even the Germans (who have mellowed out considerably) are now embarrassed by, serving as a combination of this trope and UsefulNotes/NorthKorea.
22nd Aug '16 2:50:05 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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This is actually more plausible than it sounds. The Swastika is one of the oldest symbols in many religions such as Hinduism, and also became significant in some occult groups. Nazism's roots are arguably traceable to an occult group called the Thule Society. A primary focus of the Thule Society was a claim concerning the origins of the Aryan race, as the descendants of {{Atlantis}} (sometimes called Thule), depending on which rumour you listen to. A lot of the senior Nazis, notably Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS, were intensely interested in the occult. Culturally the country was hip-deep in Teutonic tradition: some senior Nazis apparently wanted to gradually abolish the Jewish-originated Christianity in favour of Germanic Myth/NorseMythology (while others just wanted the state to absorb all the qualities of a religion instead, and there was also the so-called "Positive Christianity", an attempt to create a national church that removed "Jewish" elements from Christianity... such as the Bible). Himmler followed a religion called Armanenschaft which was, according to its believers, the original religion of the ancient Aryans, which later evolved into Norse Paganism and Hinduism.

UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler himself was pretty skeptical of the occult and notions of mystical powers, but nevertheless tried to get his hands on TheSpearOfDestiny mostly for propaganda value.

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This is actually more plausible than it sounds. The Swastika is one of the oldest symbols in many religions such as religions, including Hinduism, and also became significant in some occult groups. Nazism's roots are arguably traceable to an occult group called the Thule Society. A primary focus of the Thule Society was a claim concerning the origins of the Aryan race, as the descendants of {{Atlantis}} (sometimes called Thule), depending on which rumour you listen to. A lot of the senior Nazis, notably including SS head Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS, were intensely interested in the occult. Culturally the country was hip-deep in Teutonic tradition: some senior Nazis apparently wanted to gradually abolish the Jewish-originated Christianity in favour of Germanic Myth/NorseMythology (while others just wanted the state to absorb all the qualities of a religion instead, and there was also the so-called "Positive Christianity", an attempt to create a national church that removed "Jewish" elements from Christianity... such as the Bible). Himmler followed a religion called Armanenschaft which was, according to its believers, the original religion of the ancient Aryans, which later evolved into Norse Paganism Myth/NorseMythology and Hinduism.

Hinduism. Culturally, the country was also hip-deep in Teutonic tradition. Some senior Nazis apparently wanted to gradually abolish the Jewish-originated Christianity in favour of bringing back Germanic/Norse paganism, while others just wanted the state to absorb all the qualities of a religion instead, while another faction endorsed so-called "Positive Christianity", an attempt to create a national church that removed "Jewish" elements from Christianity, including the entirety of the Old Testament. In the present day, there exist factions in the neo-Nazi movement who also endorse a pagan revival, seeing Christianity as a devilish falsehood that had destroyed the "racial traditions" of the Aryan race and had been foisted upon Europe by the Jews.

UsefulNotes/AdolfHitler himself was pretty skeptical of the occult and notions of mystical powers, and restricted secret societies out of fear that they would threaten the power of the Nazi Party, but nevertheless tried to get his hands on TheSpearOfDestiny mostly for propaganda value.
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Alternatively you can give the Nazis technology ahead of their time, resulting in StupidJetpackHitler. Or leave that to SovietSuperscience, making the Eastern Front the front line of MagicVersusScience.

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Alternatively Alternatively, you can give the Nazis technology ahead of their time, resulting in StupidJetpackHitler. Or leave that to SovietSuperscience, making the Eastern Front the front line of MagicVersusScience.
19th Aug '16 1:47:45 AM Tre
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* ''Reign of the Gargoyles'' from the Creator/SciFiChannel: The Nazis make a pact with stone-winged killers.

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* ''Reign of the Gargoyles'' from the Creator/SciFiChannel: [[Creator/{{Syfy}} Sci Fi Channel]]: The Nazis make a pact with stone-winged killers.
31st Jul '16 4:38:30 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''The Spear'' by JamesHerbert is an espionage Thriller about an ex-Mossad agent (though he's neither Israeli nor Jewish) turned Security Consultant who, while investigating the murder of another Mossad agent, uncovers a Neo-NAZI cult who believed Himmler was the real brains behind the NAZI's, and are attempting to bring him back to life using TheLanceOfLonginus. It plays it pretty straight throughout. [[spoiler: That is, until the very end, where it's reveled they weren't crazy after all and he has to fight Himmlers re-animated corpse.]]

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* ''The Spear'' by JamesHerbert Creator/JamesHerbert is an espionage Thriller about an ex-Mossad agent (though he's neither Israeli nor Jewish) turned Security Consultant who, while investigating the murder of another Mossad agent, uncovers a Neo-NAZI cult who believed Himmler was the real brains behind the NAZI's, and are attempting to bring him back to life using TheLanceOfLonginus. It plays it pretty straight throughout. [[spoiler: That is, until the very end, where it's reveled they weren't crazy after all and he has to fight Himmlers re-animated corpse.]]
20th Jul '16 1:56:30 AM Vir
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* In ComicBook/{{Hellboy}}: The Science of Evil, you fight clockwork Nazis, cyborg Nazis, and, in one late-game area, [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot clock-work-cyborg-Nazi-zombies being animated by a Lovecraftian alien worm.]] Makes for the [[AcceptableTargets single most okay-to-beat-up mook ever.]]

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* In ComicBook/{{Hellboy}}: ''[[ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} Hellboy: The Science of Evil, Evil]]'', you fight clockwork Nazis, cyborg Nazis, and, in one late-game area, [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot clock-work-cyborg-Nazi-zombies being animated by a Lovecraftian alien worm.]] Makes for the [[AcceptableTargets single most okay-to-beat-up mook ever.]]
3rd Jul '16 1:47:37 PM Morgenthaler
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** In-universe, Hitler himself apparently has no real belief in the occult or advanced technology (as in real life). [[TheObiWan Erskine]] tells [[TheHero Steve]] that Hitler simply uses Norse symbology as propaganda, while Schmidt genuinely believes in the Asgardians. Although Schmidt makes a throwaway line about the Fuhrer "[[Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk digging for trinkets in the desert...]]"

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** In-universe, Hitler himself apparently has no real belief in the occult or advanced technology (as in real life). [[TheObiWan Erskine]] Erskine tells [[TheHero Steve]] that Hitler simply uses Norse symbology as propaganda, while Schmidt genuinely believes in the Asgardians. Although Schmidt makes a throwaway line about the Fuhrer "[[Film/RaidersOfTheLostArk digging for trinkets in the desert...]]"
24th Jun '16 11:31:52 AM Kakai
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* In ''Literature/DoraWilkSeries'', it's said that Hitler was extremely interested in raising an elite commando of werewolves, and had his warlocks invent a collar - called the SS Wehrwolf curse - that would force them to fight for him. He would've succeeded, too, if it wasn't for Stalin of all people hiring a witch to dismantle the Wehrwolf, but the secret of its creation is, unfortunately, not lost to time.
17th Jun '16 1:03:07 PM Morgenthaler
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* The ''[[ComicBook/TwoThousandAD 2000 AD]]'' strip ''Caballistics, Inc.'' makes mention of Nazi Germany's occult warfare division, Sonderkommando Thule, very frequently. When the titular Caballistics, Inc. was still functioning as a secret department in the British Government at its peak during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, as Q Department, Sonderkommando Thule was their biggest enemy. [[spoiler: [[TokenEvilTeammate Solomon Ravne]]]] is revealed to have been a former member.

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* The ''[[ComicBook/TwoThousandAD 2000 AD]]'' strip ''Caballistics, Inc.'' ''ComicBook/CaballisticsInc'' makes mention of Nazi Germany's occult warfare division, Sonderkommando Thule, very frequently. When the titular Caballistics, Inc. was still functioning as a secret department in the British Government at its peak during UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, as Q Department, Sonderkommando Thule was their biggest enemy. [[spoiler: [[TokenEvilTeammate Solomon Ravne]]]] is revealed to have been a former member.



* Irish indie comic ''TheLeagueOfVolunteers'' has a group of Nazis summons an ancient Irish demon to serve them in issue 1. It doesn't go as planned.

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* Irish indie comic ''TheLeagueOfVolunteers'' ''ComicBook/TheLeagueOfVolunteers'' has a group of Nazis summons an ancient Irish demon to serve them in issue 1. It doesn't go as planned.
15th Jun '16 6:13:41 PM lavendermintrose
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* Notably, in ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'', it's England who's obsessed with magic and the occult, not Nazi Germany.

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* Notably, Averted in ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'', ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'' - it's England who's obsessed with magic and the occult, not Nazi Germany.


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* In ''Anime/{{K}}'', the superpower-granting Slates were discovered in a church in Dresden in that time, unlocked by Nazi scientists, and brought to Tokyo after the war by a Japanese soldier sent there to help using his knowledge of Japanese magic. Notable in that the teenaged head scientist working on it was ''horrified'' at the idea of his work being used for war, and seemed to have no idea what was actually going on in the world. And that he gets powers, becomes immortal, [[spoiler: and ends up being the main character seventy years later]].
8th Jun '16 11:02:55 PM jormis29
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* Parodied in the 2014 New Zealand comedy film "What We Do in the Shadows". Deacon was apparently a member of a 'secret Nazi vampire army'.

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* Parodied in the 2014 New Zealand comedy film "What We Do in the Shadows". ''Film/WhatWeDoInTheShadows'', Deacon was apparently a member of a 'secret Nazi vampire army'.
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