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9th May '13 7:26:56 PM AlyssaMacki

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6th May '13 6:14:52 AM LahmacunKebab

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** And the definition of an "Aryan" is more complicated than you might think. Hitler used the term, Aryan, to refer to both the ancient Indo-Europeans and contemporary white people, excluding Slavs and Jews(both white and non-white). There was also an Aryan hierarchy based on how Nordic an ethnic group was, as well as their support for the Third Reich. Hitler also tended to use the word "Aryan" to refer to select Asian civilizations like the Japanese. On the other hand, Himmler and other Nazi Occultists saw the ancient Aryans as what we now know as the most popular depiction of them, blue-eyed blond [[TransHuman Übermensch]] who were originally from Atlantis and possessed [[PhysicalGod supernatural powers]] due to their advanced technology and spirituality, which came from their pure Nordic blood. Much of the rituals of the SS revolved around these ideas of the ancient Aryans, Nordicism, and blood. Hitler agreed with the Occultists on Nordic superiority, but that was about it. Any other Occult symbolism used by Hitler (such as the infamous Swastika) was purely for imagery and propaganda.
** Occult beliefs varied among the Nazis, for example Albert Speer showed no interest, while Rudolf Hess was almost as into the Occult as Himmler. Also, the Thule Society was shut down after the leadership became politically unreliable. Hitler shut down a lot of Occult societies, but not because they were Occultic. He just didn't trust secret societies.

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** And the definition of an "Aryan" is more complicated than you might think. Hitler used the term, Aryan, to refer to both the ancient Indo-Europeans and contemporary white people, excluding Slavs and Jews (both white and non-white). There was also an Aryan hierarchy based on how Nordic an ethnic group was, as well as their support for the Third Reich. Hitler also tended to use the word "Aryan" to refer to select Asian civilizations like the Japanese. On the other hand, Himmler and other Nazi Occultists saw the ancient Aryans as what we now know as the most popular depiction of them, blue-eyed blond [[TransHuman Übermensch]] who were originally from Atlantis and possessed [[PhysicalGod supernatural powers]] due to their advanced technology and spirituality, which came from their pure Nordic blood. Much of the rituals of the SS revolved around these ideas of the ancient Aryans, Nordicism, and blood. Hitler agreed with the Occultists on Nordic superiority, but that was about it. Any other Occult symbolism used by Hitler (such as the infamous Swastika) was purely for imagery and propaganda.
** Occult beliefs varied among the Nazis; for example, Albert Speer showed no interest, while Rudolf Hess was almost as into the Occult as Himmler. Also, the Thule Society was shut down after the leadership became politically unreliable. Hitler shut down a lot of Occult societies, but not because they were Occultic. He just didn't trust secret societies.

6th May '13 5:08:19 AM LahmacunKebab

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This is actually more plausible than it sounds. The Swastika is one of the oldest symbols in many religions such as Hinduism, and also became significant in some occult groups. Nazism's roots are arguably traceable to an occult group called the Thule Society, depending on which rumors you listen to, and a lot of the senior Nazis (including Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS) were intensely interested in the occult. Culturally the country was hip-deep in Teutonic tradition: some senior Nazis apparently wanted to gradually abolish the "Jewish-influenced" Christianity in favor of NorseMythology (the majority of them just wanted the state to absorb all the qualities of a religion instead, and there was also the so-called "Positive Christianity", an attempt to create a national church that removed "Jewish" elements from Christianity...such as half of the Bible), while in direct contradiction to the above (but hey, they're Nazis!). AdolfHitler himself was pretty skeptical of the occult and notions of mystical powers, but nevertheless tried to get his hands on the [[PublicDomainArtifact Spear of Destiny]] purely for propaganda value.

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This is actually more plausible than it sounds. The Swastika is one of the oldest symbols in many religions such as Hinduism, and also became significant in some occult groups. Nazism's roots are arguably traceable to an occult group called the Thule Society, depending on which rumors you listen to, and a lot of the senior Nazis (including Heinrich Himmler, the head of the SS) were intensely interested in the occult. Culturally the country was hip-deep in Teutonic tradition: some senior Nazis apparently wanted to gradually abolish the "Jewish-influenced" Christianity in favor of NorseMythology (the majority of them just wanted the state to absorb all the qualities of a religion instead, and there was also the so-called "Positive Christianity", an attempt to create a national church that removed "Jewish" elements from Christianity... such as half of the Bible), while in direct contradiction to the above (but hey, they're Nazis!). AdolfHitler himself was pretty skeptical of the occult and notions of mystical powers, but nevertheless tried to get his hands on the [[PublicDomainArtifact Spear of Destiny]] purely for propaganda value.

5th May '13 6:59:48 AM AlexMorningstar

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** And the definition of an "Aryan" is more complicated than you might think. Hitler used the term, Aryan, to refer to both the ancient Indo-Europeans and contemporary white people, excluding Slavs and European Jews. There was also an Aryan hierarchy based on how Nordic an ethnic group was, as well as their support for the Third Reich. Hitler also tended to use the word "Aryan" to refer to select Asian civilizations like the Japanese. On the other hand, Himmler and other Nazi Occultists saw the ancient Aryans as what we now know as the most popular depiction of them, blue-eyed blond [[TransHuman Übermensch]] who were originally from Atlantis and possessed [[PhysicalGod supernatural powers]] due to their advanced technology and spirituality, which came from their pure Nordic blood. Much of the rituals of the SS revolved around these ideas of the ancient Aryans, Nordicism, and blood. Hitler agreed with the Occultists on Nordic superiority, but that was about it. Any other Occult symbolism used by Hitler (such as the infamous Swastika) was purely for imagery and propaganda.

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5th May '13 6:57:57 AM AlexMorningstar

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** And the definition of an "Aryan" is more complicated than you might think. Hitler used the term, Aryan, to refer to both the ancient Indo-Europeans and contemporary white people, excluding European Jews[[note]]rather ironically, despite the propaganda against "sub-humans", the Reich-issued ID papers for Soviets living under occupation still called them "Aryan" as opposed to "Jew"[[/note]]. Hitler also tended to use the word "Aryan" to refer to select Asian civilizations like the Japanese. On the other hand, Himmler and other Nazi Occultists saw the ancient Aryans as what we now know as the most popular depiction of them, blue-eyed blond [[TransHuman Übermensch]] who were originally from Atlantis and possessed [[PhysicalGod supernatural powers]] due to their advanced technology and spirituality, which came from their pure Nordic blood. Much of the rituals of the SS revolved around these ideas of the ancient Aryans, Nordicism, and blood. Hitler agreed with the Occultists on Nordic superiority, but that was about it. Any other Occult symbolism used by Hitler (such as the infamous Swastika) was purely for imagery and propaganda.

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** And the definition of an "Aryan" is more complicated than you might think. Hitler used the term, Aryan, to refer to both the ancient Indo-Europeans and contemporary white people, excluding Slavs and European Jews. There was also an Aryan hierarchy based on how Nordic an ethnic group was, as well as their support for the Third Reich.  Hitler also tended to use the word "Aryan" to refer to select Asian civilizations like the Japanese. On the other hand, Himmler and other Nazi Occultists saw the ancient Aryans as what we now know as the most popular depiction of them, blue-eyed blond [[TransHuman Übermensch]] who were originally from Atlantis and possessed [[PhysicalGod supernatural powers]] due to their advanced technology and spirituality, which came from their pure Nordic blood. Much of the rituals of the SS revolved around these ideas of the ancient Aryans, Nordicism, and blood. Hitler agreed with the Occultists on Nordic superiority, but that was about it. Any other Occult symbolism used by Hitler (such as the infamous Swastika) was purely for imagery and propaganda.

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** And the definition of an "Aryan" is more complicated than you might think. Hitler used the term, Aryan, to refer to both the ancient Indo-Europeans and contemporary white people, excluding European Jews[[note]]rather ironically, despite the propaganda against "sub-humans", the Reich-issued ID papers for Soviets living under occupation still called them "Aryan" as opposed to "Jew"[[/note]]. Hitler also tended to use the word "Aryan" to refer to select Asian civilizations like the Japanese. On the other hand, Himmler and other Nazi Occultists saw the ancient Aryans as what we now know as the most popular depiction of them, blue-eyed blond [[TransHuman Übermensch]] who were originally from Atlantis and possessed [[PhysicalGod supernatural powers]] due to their advanced technology and spirituality, which came from their pure Nordic blood. Much of the rituals of the SS revolved around these ideas of the ancient Aryans, Nordicism, and blood. Hitler agreed with the Occultists on Nordic superiority, but that was about it. Any other Occult symbolism used by Hitler (such as the infamous Swastika) was purely for imagery and propaganda.

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