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16th Feb '17 2:51:07 PM margdean56
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* In Creator/GeorgetteHeyer's novel ''Literature/{{Cotillion}}'', Freddy Standen is generally (if fondly) regarded as a complete idiot by most of his family. However, he has impeccable manners and his shrewd knowledge of social niceties make him extremely competent at dealing with the situations the heroine finds herself in. As she notes, Freddy may not have brains, but he does have ''address'', which is far more useful.

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* In Creator/GeorgetteHeyer's novel ''Literature/{{Cotillion}}'', Freddy Standen is generally (if fondly) regarded as a complete idiot by most of his family. However, he has impeccable manners and his shrewd knowledge of social niceties make makes him extremely competent at dealing with the situations the heroine finds herself in. As she notes, Freddy may not have brains, but he does have ''address'', which is far more useful.



** Jack Aubrey himself is an even better example. He is a highly skilled sailor and capable personal combatant. He has also become so good at the mathematics and astronomy needed to navigate he has come to the attention of the Royal Society, he builds his own telescopes, and is an accomplished violinist. He is also dreadful at languages, dispenses wisdoms like "they have made their cake, and must now lie in it" and firmly believes the sons of Noah were named Cain, Abel and Moses.

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** Jack Aubrey himself is an even better example. He is a highly skilled sailor and capable personal combatant. He has also become so good at the mathematics and astronomy needed to navigate he has come to the attention of the Royal Society, he builds his own telescopes, and is an accomplished violinist. He is also dreadful at languages, dispenses wisdoms wisdom like "they have made their cake, and must now lie in it" and firmly believes the sons of Noah were named Cain, Abel and Moses.



* Creator/SimonaAhrnstedt gives us Sofia Löwenström in her debut novel ''Literature/{{Overenskommelser}}''. While you can't call her ''stupid'', she still comes across as a fragile pretty-face, who never could manage in the world on her own. But at least she's really good at playing the piano (which ironically seems to be the only thing, that her otherwise super-competent cousin Beatrice ''can't'' do).

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* Creator/SimonaAhrnstedt gives us Sofia Löwenström in her debut novel ''Literature/{{Overenskommelser}}''. While you can't call her ''stupid'', she still comes across as a fragile pretty-face, who never could manage in the world on her own. But at least she's really good at playing the piano (which ironically seems to be the only thing, thing that her otherwise super-competent cousin Beatrice ''can't'' do).



* Dr. Felix Heonikker of ''Literature/CatsCradle''. A genius inventor that is an expert at weapon's development, who creates the world-destroying Ice-9. Scatterbrained enough that, on the day he received a Nobel Prize, he forgot that he wasn't in a restaurant and left a tip for his wife after breakfast.

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* Dr. Felix Heonikker of ''Literature/CatsCradle''. A genius inventor that is an expert at weapon's weapons development, who creates the world-destroying Ice-9. Scatterbrained enough that, on the day he received a Nobel Prize, he forgot that he wasn't in a restaurant and left a tip for his wife after breakfast.



* ''Literature/MaloryTowes'' have Irene and Belinda. Both are very scatterbrained, and would often forget or lose their stuffs. But Belinda is a very talented artist, while Irene is a genius in music and maths.

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* ''Literature/MaloryTowes'' ''Literature/MaloryTowers'' have Irene and Belinda. Both are very scatterbrained, and would often forget or lose their stuffs.stuff. But Belinda is a very talented artist, while Irene is a genius in music and maths.



* In ''Literature/UnavoidableFamilyOuting'' this is definitely Jess. Despite believing that bacon is made from the nice pigs who consciously choose to be bacon (other pork products are made from ‘loser pigs’), she has a mental encyclopaedia of boy band facts. [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman This comes in useful]] in two major plot points in the series - when they have to disguise BRAD as Brandon Brenton Brantly, and when [[spoiler: they’re trying to work out the pattern of attacks on BRAD]].

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* In ''Literature/UnavoidableFamilyOuting'' this is definitely Jess. Despite believing that bacon is made from the nice pigs who consciously choose to be bacon (other pork products are made from ‘loser pigs’), she has a mental encyclopaedia of boy band facts. [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman This comes in useful]] in two major plot points in the series - -- when they have to disguise BRAD as Brandon Brenton Brantly, and when [[spoiler: they’re trying to work out the pattern of attacks on BRAD]].
16th Feb '17 2:41:20 PM margdean56
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* Several ''WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck'' stories would have the titular duck discovering an previously unexpressed aptitude at some obscure field, like counting objects or instrument playing.

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* Several ''WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck'' stories would have had the titular duck discovering an a previously unexpressed aptitude at in some obscure field, like counting objects or instrument playing.



* Miss Martian from the ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' comic has pulled some rather impressive stunts like disguising herself to infiltrate a underground super fight league to free a bunch of trapped superheroes and working with a resistance cell in Comicbook/FinalCrisis. She also threw a pie in Ravager's face and cried when Rose yelled at her.

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* Miss Martian from the ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' comic has pulled some rather impressive stunts like disguising herself to infiltrate a an underground super fight league to free a bunch of trapped superheroes and working with a resistance cell in Comicbook/FinalCrisis. She also threw a pie in Ravager's face and cried when Rose yelled at her.



** This has accentuated on ''ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal''. Roy has become so focused on inventing new weapons that he often blows all his earnt money on spare parts.

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** This has been accentuated on in ''ComicBook/RedHoodArsenal''. Roy has become so focused on inventing new weapons that he often blows all his earnt earned money on spare parts.
16th Feb '17 11:03:27 AM meanmetalmario
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* The members of the band Dethklok in ''WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}}'' are completely incompetent at anything not related to music, partying, or contract negotiation. On the latter subject, they can out-negotiate the devil. And even then, while they have those skills, they have none of the skills one would deem necessary to be good at those things. Skwisgaar, who writes the guitar lines and bass lines, and Toki, both of them the best guitarists alive, cannot read sheet music, and both Skwisgaar, Murderface & Toki do not know how to tune a guitar. Nathan, the guy that writes the lyrics, has lots of problem expressing himself, can barely read and seems to have a severely limited vocabulary when talking (but evidently, not when writing songs), in fact, he didn't speak before the age of 5. Lastly, despite their negotiation skills, they have no idea of the value of money or even how to manage it. Really, Dethklok's general level of competency [[RuleOfFunny depends entirely on what makes for the funniest scene.]]

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* The members of the band Dethklok in ''WesternAnimation/{{Metalocalypse}}'' are completely incompetent at anything not related to music, partying, or contract negotiation. On the latter subject, they can out-negotiate the devil. And even then, while they have those skills, they have none of the skills one would deem necessary to be good at those things. Skwisgaar, who writes the guitar lines and bass lines, and Toki, both of them the best guitarists alive, cannot read sheet music, and both Skwisgaar, Murderface & Toki do not know how to tune a guitar. Nathan, the guy that writes the lyrics, has lots of problem expressing himself, can barely read and seems to have a severely limited vocabulary when talking (but evidently, not when writing songs), in fact, he didn't speak before the age of 5. Lastly, despite their negotiation skills, they have no idea of the value of money or even how to manage it.it (most likely because [[Fiction500 they have so much of it that it doesn't really matter]]). Really, Dethklok's general level of competency [[RuleOfFunny depends entirely on what makes for the funniest scene.]]
5th Feb '17 12:07:13 PM DoctorCooper
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* High functioning autistic savants such as Daniel Tammet, while significantly lacking in social skills and maturity, are geniuses. Daniel managed to learn stilted but comprehensible Icelandic in under a week.
** Note this may not be because of increased intelligence per se, but because their condition makes them focus on one narrow area of interest to the exclusion of other things.
* Laurence Kim Peek had an unnamed developmental disability due to brain damage. He was able to answer virtually any question pertaining to historical dates, statistics or any obscure trivia.
* Hikari Oe, son of the novelist Kenzaburo Oe, is developmentally disabled and autistic, and the inspiration behind his father's prizewinning novel ''A Personal Matter''. He is also a very talented musician who expresses himself through music, imitating bird calls.
* Music/KanyeWest is a talented producer and musician in the studio. Outside of the studio, he is so lacking in common sense and basic social graces one gets the impression that he's not all there.
* In the antiques trade, someone who instinctively recognises a genuine antique without any training is a "divvy", probably short for "diviner". Divvies are stereotyped as not very bright (because they often don't actually ''know'' anything about antiques, beyond "Yes, that's valuable"), which had led to the term entering general British slang for a stupid person, with or without GeniusDitz qualities.
* ''Creator/KarlPilkington'' is well known for being this. Despite being strangely insightful, and it's hard to count the times he's constantly been put down invalidly, many people who have worked with him note that he lacks the education and vocabulary to communicate his ideas without looking like an idiot.
* Truth in television as many people do find that while they are incredibly sharp in one aspect of their lives they may be incredibly incompetent in the other. Like the Maths genius who cannot make people listen to him or the eloquent actor who has failing grades. This is especially common amongst college students, many of whom will say they picked their major at least partly because they're terrible at the perceived opposite (English majors saying they became English majors because they're terrible at math seems to be especially common.)
--> "A specialist knows more and more about less and less until he knows everything about nothing; a generalist knows less and less about more and more until he knows nothing about everything."
* Music/BritneySpears during her glory years. Offstage and during interviews she seems a bit flaky, but when she gets onstage she's a great dancer and performer (or used to be) and one of the most successful pop stars ever.
* Likewise with LindsayLohan, while sometimes her behavior has people wondering just what goes on in her head, she is nonetheless a skilled actress/singer and can also be very profound and intelligent, like when she did a documentary on child labor in India.
* Flavor Flav of Music/PublicEnemy, while known more for his buffoonish antics including a [[Series/FlavorOfLove reality show]] and wearing a clock around his neck, is actually a musical prodigy. Among the many instruments he can play (and play well) are piano, guitar, bass, saxophone, clarinet, and drums.
* Kary Mullis, 1985 Nobel laureate in chemistry, and the inventor of the polymerase chain reaction, allowing for the quick, bulk synthesis of sections of DNA, revolutionizing molecular biology research. He was also the very ''image'' of a SurferDude, did tons of LSD, is a ConspiracyTheorist, and is generally quite nuts.
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17th Jan '17 11:34:05 AM JoeMerl
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* Wally from ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice''. Robin says that they need a dumb, illogical idea to find Red Tornado. Cue everyone turning to Kid Flash:
--> '''Kid Flash''': As a matter of fact...

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* Wally from ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice''. ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'' is the biggest goof-off and most prone to stick his foot in his mouth, but he's ''also'' a scientific genius who purposely gave himself superpowers with a chemistry set. In "Homefront," he's captured along with most of the rest of the Team, but is able to walk Robin says and Artemis through making an [=EMP=] that they need a dumb, illogical idea needed to find Red Tornado. Cue everyone turning to Kid Flash:
--> '''Kid Flash''': As a matter of fact...
defeat their android captors.
28th Nov '16 8:52:36 PM 12freddofrogs
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* In ''Literature/UnavoidableFamilyOuting'' this is definitely Jess. Despite believing that bacon is made from the nice pigs who consciously choose to be bacon (other pork products are made from ‘loser pigs’), she has a mental encyclopaedia of boy band facts. [[ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman This comes in useful]] in two major plot points in the series - when they have to disguise BRAD as Brandon Brenton Brantly, and when [[spoiler: they’re trying to work out the pattern of attacks on BRAD]].
-->'''Sal:''' Wow. Jess’s knowledge of all things boy band is quite disturbing.
-->'''Narrator:''' It’s no wonder she doesn’t have any room inside her head for anything else.
15th Nov '16 3:01:20 AM Troperinik
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* Stumpy from ''WesternAnimation/{{Kaeloo}}'' is a complete idiot who sucks at almost everything, but he is a brilliant artist.
15th Nov '16 1:11:14 AM ShorinBJ
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* The player character in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'' can be this -- there is a book called Hanging Gardens of Wasten Coridale. It is written in Aldmeris (an extinct ancestor language to several of the modern languages) and Dwemeris (an extinct language which scholarship does not know how to translate) in parallel. The twist is that if you read the book, as you will when you pick it up, it not only assumes that your character knows Aldmeris but also that you can use it to translate Dwemeris -- even if your character is as dumb as a brick and completely focus on combat skills.

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* The player character in ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind'' can be this -- there is a book called Hanging Gardens of Wasten Coridale. It is written in Aldmeris (an extinct ancestor language to several of the modern languages) and Dwemeris (an extinct language which scholarship does not know how to translate) in parallel. The twist is that if you read the book, as you will when you pick it up, it not only assumes that your character knows Aldmeris but also that you can use it to translate Dwemeris -- even if your character is as dumb as a brick and completely focus focused on combat skills.
15th Nov '16 1:02:51 AM ShorinBJ
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** Mihoshi Kiramitsu from some of the various continuities. (Talent: Several, actually. Full eidetic memory, outrageous luck and the ability to get into places where she shouldn't -- or ''couldn't possibly'' -- be.) In the {{OVA}}, however, she tends more toward [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyer]]. It's lightly implied in many of the continuities that Mihoshi used to be a genius cop, but she got so overstressed that she had a mental breakdown -- thus becoming the way she is now and that the moments of hypercompetence are actually remnants of her former self. WordOfGod also has it that [[spoiler:she's the great-great-great-great granddaughter of Washuu... As in the 8th-dimensional goddess, greatest scientist in the universe, Washuu. Part of her ridiculous luck/genius moments/otherworldly skill is some fraction of that sort-of-divine spark emerging within her.]]

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** Mihoshi Kiramitsu from some of the various continuities. (Talent: Several, actually. Full eidetic memory, outrageous luck and the ability to get into places where she shouldn't -- or ''couldn't possibly'' -- be.) In the {{OVA}}, however, she tends more toward [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bunny-Ears Lawyer]]. It's lightly implied in many of the continuities that Mihoshi used to be a genius cop, but she got so overstressed that she had a mental breakdown -- thus becoming the way she is now and that the moments of hypercompetence are actually remnants of her former self. WordOfGod also has it that [[spoiler:she's the great-great-great-great granddaughter of Washuu... Washu... As in the 8th-dimensional goddess, greatest scientist in the universe, Washuu.Washu. Part of her ridiculous luck/genius moments/otherworldly skill is some fraction of that sort-of-divine spark emerging within her.]]



* Son Goku of ''Manga/DragonBall'' is so naive he didn't know the difference between boys and girls until he was 12, even miscounted his own age at one point. However, his brilliance is found in fighting, first and foremost. He learned how to fire his own Kamehameha wave simply by watching Muten Roshi do it, despite the fact he took fifty years developing it, not only took it as his signature move but created variations and enhancements of the move Roshi couldn't have possibly foreseen, proclaiming him to be a "genius". Also, learning the [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Kaio-ken]] and the [[CombinedEnergyAttack Genki Dama]] not only took him less than nine months to learn, but even though with the former he's not supposed to multiply it by even beyond twice, [[TakeAThirdOption he found a way]] to push it to times twenty, and the latter he found a way to gather energy from nearby planets and collect it. He even discovered the weaknesses behind his own [[SuperMode Super Saiyan]] form just by using it once, [[TakeAThirdOption and find an effective way to use it]]. Not to mention that he learned the After Image technique after seeing it only once and even tricked his master with it. He also used the Solar Flare successfully against its own creator after seeing it used only twice. He also so savvy in battle that he often outsmart fighters who are much more intelligent than him.
** Part of his naiveté can be {{justified|Trope}} taking into account that he grew up very far from civilization, with only his adoptive grandfather to raise him in the wilderness, and then he had to live by himself when his grandfather died.

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* Son Goku of ''Manga/DragonBall'' is so naive he didn't know the difference between boys and girls until he was 12, and even miscounted his own age at one point.point. Part of this can be {{justified|Trope}} taking into account that he grew up very far from civilization, with only his adoptive grandfather to raise him in the wilderness, and then he had to live by himself when his grandfather died. However, his brilliance is found in fighting, first and foremost. He learned how to fire his own Kamehameha wave simply by watching Muten Roshi do it, despite the fact he took fifty years developing it, not only took it as his signature move but created variations and enhancements of the move Roshi couldn't have possibly foreseen, proclaiming him to be a "genius". Also, learning the [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Kaio-ken]] and the [[CombinedEnergyAttack Genki Dama]] not only took him less than nine months to learn, but even though with the former he's not supposed to multiply it by even beyond twice, [[TakeAThirdOption he found a way]] to push it to times twenty, and the latter he found a way to gather energy from nearby planets and collect it. He even discovered the weaknesses behind his own [[SuperMode Super Saiyan]] form just by using it once, [[TakeAThirdOption and find an effective way to use it]]. Not to mention that he learned the After Image technique after seeing it only once and even tricked his master with it. He also used the Solar Flare successfully against its own creator after seeing it used only twice. He also so savvy in battle that he often outsmart fighters who are much more intelligent than him.
** Part of his naiveté can be {{justified|Trope}} taking into account that he grew up very far from civilization, with only his adoptive grandfather to raise him in the wilderness, and then he had to live by himself when his grandfather died.
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11th Nov '16 2:51:12 PM VampireBuddha
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** Old Man [=McGucket=] is an insane old coot who is married to a possum, thinks there is someone else living in his mirror, and randomly shouts meaningless words. He can also whip together advanced battle robots, and potions to change people's voices. It turns out there's a reason for this.
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