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27th Aug '16 9:38:05 AM Morgenthaler
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* The ''Film/JusticeLeagueWar'' incarnation of Darkseid has all the power one would expect from one of DC's most charismatic and terrifying villains, but that's about it. Presumably, the writers were banking on people already knowing who he is, since he gets absolutely no explanation as to who he is or why he particularly wants to conquer Earth to begin with. He spends most of his screen time beating up the Justice League, until he gets sent back to his home dimension when it's time to end the movie.

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* The ''Film/JusticeLeagueWar'' ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueWar'' incarnation of Darkseid has all the power one would expect from one of DC's most charismatic and terrifying villains, but that's about it. Presumably, the writers were banking on people already knowing who he is, since he gets absolutely no explanation as to who he is or why he particularly wants to conquer Earth to begin with. He spends most of his screen time beating up the Justice League, until he gets sent back to his home dimension when it's time to end the movie.
15th Aug '16 4:05:09 PM HeyFella
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** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'': Zant plays this straight at first, but later subverts it, [[spoiler:when it's revealed to be a facade, and he's actually a PsychopathicManchild who is upset over his people's imprisonment and not being chosen as their ruler, and usurped the throne after being granted by power by Ganondorf.]]

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** ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess'': Zant plays this straight at first, but later subverts it, [[spoiler:when it's revealed to be a facade, and he's actually a PsychopathicManchild who is upset over his people's imprisonment and not being chosen as their ruler, and usurped the throne after being granted by power by Ganondorf.]]


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** Bowser gets hit by this trope in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioStickerStar'', where he only makes a total of two appearances while having absolutely no dialogue or characterization, as opposed to the LargeHam, RatedMForManly, LaughablyEvil BoisterousBruiser he is known for in the [[VideoGame/PaperMario both]] [[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigi of]] the Mario franchise's [=RPG=] subseries.
13th Aug '16 7:29:12 AM fearlessnikki
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* ''Film/SuicideSquad2016'' gives us The Enchantress - an ancient EldritchAbomination who is out to destroy the city with no clear reason why. She has no personal vendetta against any of the protagonists, except Amanda Weller for having control of her heart. She spends most of the film sitting around making an army, seemingly waiting for the titular squad to come after her.
7th Aug '16 2:27:55 PM TheGreenHerring
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* The New Order in ''Film/{{Cobra}}'', run by the Night Slasher, is a murder cult that draws its membership from all walks of life. They are willing to do anything for the Night Slasher up to and including slaughtering a small town to help [[HeKnowsTooMuch get rid of a witness]] and her protectors, yet they are not given a backstory or any kind of explanation as to why they are willing to work for a SerialKiller no matter how much of TheSocialDarwinist he is. For all we know, they seem to exist just to be an army of psychotic {{mooks}} for CowboyCop Lt. Cobretti to slay by the dozen before facing off with the bad guy.

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* The New Order in ''Film/{{Cobra}}'', run by the [[BigBad Night Slasher, Slasher]], is a murder cult that draws its membership from all walks of life. They are willing to do anything for the Night Slasher up to and including slaughtering a small town to help [[HeKnowsTooMuch get rid of a witness]] and her protectors, yet they are not given a backstory or any kind of explanation as to why they are willing to work for a SerialKiller no matter how much of TheSocialDarwinist he is. For all we know, they seem to exist just to be an army of psychotic {{mooks}} for CowboyCop Lt. Cobretti to slay by the dozen before facing he can face off with the bad guy.
5th Aug '16 11:29:46 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** In ''{{VideoGame/Halo 3}}'', the Didact was introduced in the backstory, a morally conflicted [[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] who wanted to save the galaxy without sacrificing billions for thousands. But he only ended up escalating the conflict, and had to be urged by his wife to take the extreme route even if it would mean her death alongside all the victims. The first [[Literature/HaloCryptum two]] [[Literature/HaloPrimordium books]] of the ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' further deepened him, as the mentor who has some old wounds with humans, but still wants the best for all people, though they also complicated things by having him imprint a copy of himself upon the main hero. But in ''{{VideoGame/Halo 4}}'', he's a DarthVaderClone [[ObviouslyEvil in evil skull-armor]] who wants to KillAllHumans because he's grown to hate them again. ''Literature/HaloSilentium'' had to reconcile the two portrayals and give the villainous one some depth, with the ultimate solution being that the good Didact from ''3'' was the copy, and the evil one from ''4'' was the original, the latter having become that way after being horribly mind-raped by the Flood.

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** In ''{{VideoGame/Halo 3}}'', the Didact was introduced in the backstory, a morally conflicted [[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] who wanted to save the galaxy without sacrificing billions for thousands. But he only ended up escalating the conflict, and had to be urged by his wife to take the extreme route even if it would mean her death alongside all the victims. The first [[Literature/HaloCryptum two]] [[Literature/HaloPrimordium books]] of the ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' further deepened him, as the mentor who has some old wounds with humans, but still wants the best for all people, though they also complicated things by having him imprint a copy of himself upon the main hero. But in ''{{VideoGame/Halo 4}}'', he's a DarthVaderClone [[ObviouslyEvil in evil skull-armor]] who wants to KillAllHumans because he's grown to hate them again. ''Literature/HaloSilentium'' had to reconcile the two portrayals and give the villainous one some depth, with the ultimate solution being that the good Didact from ''3'' was the copy, and the evil one from ''4'' was the original, the latter having become that way after being horribly mind-raped by the Flood.Flood and having nothing but his own resentments to stew on for 100,000 years.
5th Aug '16 11:27:17 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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** In ''{{VideoGame/Halo 3}}'', the Didact was introduced in the backstory, a morally conflicted [[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] who wanted to save the galaxy without sacrificing billions for thousands. But he only ended up escalating the conflict, and had to be urged by his wife to take the extreme route even if it would mean her death alongside all the victims. ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' further deepened him, as the mentor to the hero who has some old wounds with humans, but wants the best for all people. But in ''{{VideoGame/Halo 4}}'', he's a DarthVaderClone [[ObviouslyEvil in skull-armor of evil]] who wants to KillAllHumans because racism. Supplemental material has since had to reconcile the two portrayals, with explanations as convoluted as "the good Didact was a clone of the original who turned evil."

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** In ''{{VideoGame/Halo 3}}'', the Didact was introduced in the backstory, a morally conflicted [[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] who wanted to save the galaxy without sacrificing billions for thousands. But he only ended up escalating the conflict, and had to be urged by his wife to take the extreme route even if it would mean her death alongside all the victims. The first [[Literature/HaloCryptum two]] [[Literature/HaloPrimordium books]] of the ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' further deepened him, as the mentor to the hero who has some old wounds with humans, but still wants the best for all people. people, though they also complicated things by having him imprint a copy of himself upon the main hero. But in ''{{VideoGame/Halo 4}}'', he's a DarthVaderClone [[ObviouslyEvil in skull-armor of evil]] evil skull-armor]] who wants to KillAllHumans because racism. Supplemental material has since he's grown to hate them again. ''Literature/HaloSilentium'' had to reconcile the two portrayals, portrayals and give the villainous one some depth, with explanations as convoluted as "the the ultimate solution being that the good Didact from ''3'' was a clone of the original who turned evil."copy, and the evil one from ''4'' was the original, the latter having become that way after being horribly mind-raped by the Flood.
1st Aug '16 2:36:18 AM Loekman3
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* Aside from a vague backstory involving a Time War that is never developed or explained, Maltruant from ''WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse'' has no clear characterizations or motivations, is a blatant CardCarryingVillain and we have no idea why he wants to [[spoiler: reshape the Universe in his own image]] or why he went rogue in the first place.
15th Jul '16 6:32:54 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** Earlier episodes of ''Buffy'' play with the trope quite a bit. In "The Zeppo", the generic villains are never given enough screen time to explain their motivations as that's part of the joke. In "Doomed", like most of the show's baddies, they're a metaphor for something else. Most notably, in "Becoming", Angelus decides to destroy the world just because he can, and so [[EnemyMine Spike betrays him]] because he doesn't see how he would gain from the end of the world.

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** Earlier episodes of ''Buffy'' play with the trope quite a bit. In "The Zeppo", the generic villains are never given enough screen time to explain their motivations as that's part of the joke. In "Doomed", like most of the show's baddies, they're a metaphor for something else. Most notably, in "Becoming", Angelus decides to destroy the world just because he can, and so [[EnemyMine Spike betrays him]] because [[EvilVersusOblivion he doesn't see how he would gain from the end of the world.world]].
10th Jul '16 7:41:16 AM erforce
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* In ''Film/FantasticFour2015'', Doom's reasoning for going bad is... unclear, and his goal itself effectively amounts to "blowing up the world".



* Among ''StarWars'' villains, Darth Maul is the prime example of this trope. He barely speaks throughout the entirety of ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', mostly existing to serve more as an obstacle than a character. As the [[SwordFight lightsaber duel]] he took part in proved so [[MomentOfAwesome memorable]], this had fans complaining about his [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wasted potential]].

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* Among ''StarWars'' villains, Darth Maul is the prime example of this trope. He barely speaks throughout the entirety of ''Film/ThePhantomMenace'', mostly existing to serve more as an obstacle than a character. As the [[SwordFight lightsaber duel]] he took part in proved so [[MomentOfAwesome memorable]], memorable, this had fans complaining about his [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter wasted potential]].



** The original Mecha Godzilla is a justified case: it's a robot built for destruction, and thus doesn't have a personality besides being programmed to follow orders and come up with the best plan to win a fight.
* In ''Film/FantasticFour2015'', Doom's reasoning for going bad is... unclear, and his goal itself effectively amounts to "blowing up the world".

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** The [[Film/GodzillaVsMechagodzilla original Mecha Godzilla Godzilla]] is a justified case: it's a robot built for destruction, and thus doesn't have a personality besides being programmed to follow orders and come up with the best plan to win a fight.
* In ''Film/FantasticFour2015'', Doom's reasoning for going bad is... unclear, and his goal itself effectively amounts to "blowing up the world".
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* While most bosses in ''Franchise/DevilMayCry'' have either at least a bit of personality, or engaged in a banters with Dante, all of the bosses in the second game (sans [[BigBad Arius]]) have neither any personality nor speak any line whatsoever including the FinalBoss Argosax. Essentially, they're just another enemy for Dante and Lucia to defeat.

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* While most bosses in ''Franchise/DevilMayCry'' have either at least a bit of personality, or engaged in a banters with Dante, all of the bosses in the [[VideoGame/DevilMayCry2 second game game]] (sans [[BigBad Arius]]) have neither any personality nor speak any line whatsoever including the FinalBoss Argosax. Essentially, they're just another enemy for Dante and Lucia to defeat.



** ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}} 3'' gives us Archimonde who wants to destroy the world of Azeroth just so he can drain the powers of the World Tree for himself. He comes off especially generic in light of villains like Tichondrius, Kel'thuzad, and especially Arthas, who are well characterized with deep backstories and vibrant personalities. Later expanded universe materials expand more on his motives: he was seduced by the Dark Titan Sargeras with promises of a universe to rule, which he lapped up because he believed the Eredar were the greatest race and deserved to rule. Any planet that refused to join his Legion needed to go.

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** ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}} 3'' ''VideoGame/WarCraftIII'' gives us Archimonde who wants to destroy the world of Azeroth just so he can drain the powers of the World Tree for himself. He comes off especially generic in light of villains like Tichondrius, Kel'thuzad, and especially Arthas, who are well characterized with deep backstories and vibrant personalities. Later expanded universe materials expand more on his motives: he was seduced by the Dark Titan Sargeras with promises of a universe to rule, which he lapped up because he believed the Eredar were the greatest race and deserved to rule. Any planet that refused to join his Legion needed to go.
9th Jul '16 6:31:02 AM Morgenthaler
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** In ''{{VideoGame/Halo 3}}'', the Didact was introduced in the backstory, a morally conflicted [[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] who wanted to save the galaxy without sacrificing billions for thousands. But he only ended up escalating the conflict, and had to be urged by his wife to take the extreme route even if it would mean her death alongside all the victims. ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' further deepened him, as TheObiWan to the hero who has some old wounds with humans, but wants the best for all people. But in ''{{VideoGame/Halo 4}}'', he's a DarthVaderClone [[ObviouslyEvil in skull-armor of evil]] who wants to KillAllHumans because racism. Supplemental material has since had to reconcile the two portrayals, with explanations as convoluted as "the good Didact was a clone of the original who turned evil."

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** In ''{{VideoGame/Halo 3}}'', the Didact was introduced in the backstory, a morally conflicted [[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] who wanted to save the galaxy without sacrificing billions for thousands. But he only ended up escalating the conflict, and had to be urged by his wife to take the extreme route even if it would mean her death alongside all the victims. ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' further deepened him, as TheObiWan the mentor to the hero who has some old wounds with humans, but wants the best for all people. But in ''{{VideoGame/Halo 4}}'', he's a DarthVaderClone [[ObviouslyEvil in skull-armor of evil]] who wants to KillAllHumans because racism. Supplemental material has since had to reconcile the two portrayals, with explanations as convoluted as "the good Didact was a clone of the original who turned evil."
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