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27th Jan '16 12:14:54 AM Kinswaous
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** Defied in another Disney comic where ''MickeyMouse'' plays the part of Columbus instead. In this story, the general assumption among scholars is that the world is round, long before Mickey/Columbus goes on his expedition. However, he still ends up having a nightmare about sailing off the edge of a flat world and into FireAndBrimstoneHell, [[NotSoAboveItAll influenced by stories that some of the more superstitious members of his crew are telling each other]].
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** Defied in another Disney comic where ''MickeyMouse'' plays the part of Columbus instead. In this story, the general assumption among scholars is that the world is round, long before Mickey/Columbus goes on his expedition. However, he still ends up having a nightmare about [[DoubleSubversion sailing off the edge of a flat world world]] and into FireAndBrimstoneHell, [[NotSoAboveItAll influenced by stories that some of the more superstitious members of his crew are telling each other]].
27th Jan '16 12:11:14 AM Kinswaous
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** Defied in another Disney comic where ''MickeyMouse'' plays the part of Columbus instead. In this story, the general assumption among scholars is that the world is round, long before Mickey/Columbus goes on his expedition. However, he still ends up having a nightmare about sailing off the edge of a flat world and into FireAndBrimstoneHell, [[NotSoAboveItAll influenced by stories that some of the more superstitious members of his crew are telling each other]].
29th Dec '15 6:11:31 AM R1ck
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Sadly, [[http://theflatearthsociety.org/ some people]] believe that this is TruthInTelevision.
17th Dec '15 11:34:35 AM FF32
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* [[SCPFoundation SCP]]-[[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1372 1372]] is a patch of ocean where the Earth seems to have an edge, [[AlienGeometries but only if you're travelling from East to West]]. The problem isn't ships and people going over the edge, it's when [[CameBackWrong they come back]] and try to get others to follow:
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* [[SCPFoundation [[Wiki/SCPFoundation SCP]]-[[http://www.scp-wiki.net/scp-1372 1372]] is a patch of ocean where the Earth seems to have an edge, [[AlienGeometries but only if you're travelling from East to West]]. The problem isn't ships and people going over the edge, it's when [[CameBackWrong they come back]] and try to get others to follow:
16th Dec '15 1:35:21 AM jormis29
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Please don't put the whole http in there
* The story [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/Austraeoh Austraeoh]] uses an interesting variant. The world is a flat plane with earth-like conditions on top and a chaotic netherworld on the bottom, and is a strip much longer in the east-west direction than north-south. In addition, we eventually learn that it is actually only a fragment of an enormous dodecagon-shaped world that was broken apart eons ago.
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* The story [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/Austraeoh Austraeoh]] ''Fanfic/{{Austraeoh}}'' uses an interesting variant. The world is a flat plane with earth-like conditions on top and a chaotic netherworld on the bottom, and is a strip much longer in the east-west direction than north-south. In addition, we eventually learn that it is actually only a fragment of an enormous dodecagon-shaped world that was broken apart eons ago.
15th Dec '15 10:01:49 AM blackkittyfreak
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The story [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/Austraeoh Austraeoh]] uses an interesting variant. The world is a flat plane with earth-like conditions on top and a chaotic netherworld on the bottom, and is a strip much longer in the east-west direction than north-south. In addition, we eventually learn that it is actually only a fragment of an enormous dodecagon-shaped world that was broken apart eons ago.
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* The story [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/Austraeoh Austraeoh]] uses an interesting variant. The world is a flat plane with earth-like conditions on top and a chaotic netherworld on the bottom, and is a strip much longer in the east-west direction than north-south. In addition, we eventually learn that it is actually only a fragment of an enormous dodecagon-shaped world that was broken apart eons ago.
15th Dec '15 10:01:23 AM blackkittyfreak
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[[folder:Fan Works]] The story [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Fanfic/Austraeoh Austraeoh]] uses an interesting variant. The world is a flat plane with earth-like conditions on top and a chaotic netherworld on the bottom, and is a strip much longer in the east-west direction than north-south. In addition, we eventually learn that it is actually only a fragment of an enormous dodecagon-shaped world that was broken apart eons ago. [[/folder]]
21st Nov '15 10:23:16 AM StFan
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[[folder:Film]][[folder:Comic Strips]] * In an early ''ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}}'' strip, Dogbert suddenly insists that the world is flat. Dilbert rather weakly tries to use Columbus as an argument against Dogbert's claim (based on the already mentioned erroneous assumption that Columbus "discovered" that the Earth was round). Dogbert's counter-argument is that it's convenient that Dilbert's only witness is dead. [[/folder]] [[folder:Films -- Animation]]

* The Terry Gilliam short film ''The Crimson Permanent Assurance'', released alongside ''Monty Python's Meaning of Life'', is set on a flat world. It also has [[RuleOfCool elderly]] [[MundaneMadeAwesome accountant]] [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot pirates]] who [[spoiler: defeat London's Financial District in glorious battle]]. Really, [[ItMakesSenseInContext by the time it comes, nothing could make more sense]]. * Some of the characters in ''Film/TheGodsMustBeCrazy'' ''think'' they are living on a flat world, and undertake a quest to throw an object off the edge of it to get rid of it. Since it's earth, viewers might be inclined to smile knowingly at this, but... [[spoiler: they succeed.]] * In ''Eric the Viking'', the characters [[spoiler: sail off the edge of the world and land in Valhalla]]. ** This partially averts the usual FlatError (that "back then everyone thought the world was flat"). The token Christian [=DISbelieves=] in the edge of the world. * ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' has this in the third movie. Beyond the edge of the world is the entrance to Davy Jones's Locker. A rather strange case, since you apparently can't just pick a direction and sail there until you reach the end, because then anybody could get there. You have to be truly lost at sea, and then you magically teleport to the end. So, it's debatable if the world is flat in this universe, or if it's round, and you just get transport to a strange waterfall place when you're lost. * In ''Film/DarkCity'', [[spoiler: the city itself]] is a very tiny world like this. * Asgard in ''Film/{{Thor}}'' is flat. ** Technically Asgard is a giant floating continent, not a full world. It's like that in the comics too. * In ''Film/MenInBlack'', Agent Kay affirms that long ago everybody ''knew'' the Earth was flat, using it as a reference to people believing something that is wrong, and how suddenly enlightening them too fast can be dangerous. Thus, his and the [=MIB's=] reasons for keeping the existence of aliens a secret.

[[folder:Films -- Live-Action]] * The Terry Gilliam short film ''The Crimson Permanent Assurance'', released alongside ''Monty Python's Meaning of Life'', is set on a flat world. It also has [[RuleOfCool elderly]] [[MundaneMadeAwesome accountant]] [[NinjaPirateZombieRobot pirates]] who [[spoiler: defeat [[spoiler:defeat London's Financial District in glorious battle]]. Really, [[ItMakesSenseInContext by the time it comes, nothing could make more sense]]. * Some of the characters in ''Film/TheGodsMustBeCrazy'' ''think'' they are living on a flat world, and undertake a quest to throw an object off the edge of it to get rid of it. Since it's earth, viewers might be inclined to smile knowingly at this, but... [[spoiler: they [[spoiler:they succeed.]] * In ''Eric the Viking'', ''Film/EricTheViking'', the characters [[spoiler: sail [[spoiler:sail off the edge of the world and land in Valhalla]]. ** Valhalla]]. This partially averts the usual FlatError "flat error" (that "back then everyone thought the world was flat"). The token Christian [=DISbelieves=] in the edge of the world. * ''Franchise/PiratesOfTheCaribbean'' has this in the third movie. Beyond the edge of the world is the entrance to Davy Jones's Locker. A rather strange case, since you apparently can't just pick a direction and sail there until you reach the end, because then anybody could get there. You have to be truly lost at sea, and then you magically teleport to the end. So, it's debatable if the world is flat in this universe, or if it's round, and you just get transport to a strange waterfall place when you're lost. * In ''Film/DarkCity'', [[spoiler: the city itself]] is a very tiny world like this. * Asgard in ''Film/{{Thor}}'' is flat. ** flat. Technically Asgard is a giant floating continent, not a full world. It's like that in the comics too. * In ''Film/MenInBlack'', Agent Kay affirms that long ago everybody ''knew'' the Earth was flat, using it as a reference to people believing something that is wrong, and how suddenly enlightening them too fast can be dangerous. Thus, his and the [=MIB's=] reasons for keeping the existence of aliens a secret. [[/folder]]

* The ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', as its name suggests, is a very slightly convex disc. It's also supported by four giant elephants on the back of an insanely vast turtle. It has a (spherical) tiny sun and a tiny moon, which travel in complex patterns to make seasons. (Sometimes, one of the elephants has to cock a leg to let them go by.) In fact, one novel concerns the bold efforts of religious fanatics who believe the world is round because God prefers perfect circles going about crushing dissent from any scientist who tries to prove the world is actually flat. Which it is.
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* The ''Literature/{{Discworld}}'', as its name suggests, is a very slightly convex disc. It's also supported by four giant elephants on the back of an insanely vast turtle. It has a (spherical) tiny sun and a tiny moon, which travel in complex patterns to make seasons. (Sometimes, one of the elephants has to cock a leg to let them go by.) ) ** In fact, one novel concerns the bold efforts of religious fanatics who believe the world is round because God prefers perfect circles going about crushing dissent from any scientist who tries to prove the world is actually flat. Which it is.

** There's also Creator/TerryPratchett's earlier novel ''Strata'', which has an ([[InvokedTrope artificially constructed]]) flat world with an orbiting sun designed to look like a Ptolemaic world map.
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** * There's also Creator/TerryPratchett's earlier novel ''Strata'', which has an ([[InvokedTrope artificially constructed]]) flat world with an orbiting sun designed to look like a Ptolemaic world map.

* In ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', it is revealed that ''[[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Middle-earth]]'' was originally flat. It was reshaped into a sphere by Eru Ilúvatar to prevent humanity from attempting to sail to Valinor.
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* In ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', it is revealed that ''[[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Middle-earth]]'' ''Middle-earth'' was originally flat. It was reshaped into a sphere by Eru Ilúvatar to prevent humanity from attempting to sail to Valinor.

** Later Creator/JRRTolkien decided this was bad fantasy -and stupid because Middle-earth is supposed to be the real world-, but his attempts to write a round-world creation story were consistently less beautiful than the flat-world versions.
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** Later Creator/JRRTolkien decided this was bad fantasy -and -- and stupid because Middle-earth is supposed to be the real world-, world --, but his attempts to write a round-world creation story were consistently less beautiful than the flat-world versions.

[[folder:NewspaperComics]] * In an early {{Dilbert}} strip, Dogbert suddenly insists that the world is flat. Dilbert rather weakly tries to use Columbus as an argument against Dogbert's claim (based on the already mentioned erroneous assumption that Columbus "discovered" that the Earth was round). Dogbert's counter-argument is that it's convenient that Dilbert's only witness is dead. [[/folder]]


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* The idea of everyone thinking the world was flat wasn't universal. Through history some people thought it was flat, some thought it may be round, but for the most part people probably didn't worry themselves about it much. While many people cite the idea that when a ship sailed to sea the mast was the last thing to disappear to the observer, the problem is that by the time a ship is that far out at sea (several miles for a 5.5-foot-tall person), the ship is so small to the unaided eye it's hard to make out the mast - and telescopes weren't developed until 1608 - a time when the fact that the Earth was round had been proven practically.
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* The idea of everyone thinking the world was flat wasn't universal. Through history some people thought it was flat, some thought it may be round, but for the most part people probably didn't worry themselves about it much. While many people cite the idea that when a ship sailed to sea the mast was the last thing to disappear to the observer, the problem is that by the time a ship is that far out at sea (several miles for a 5.5-foot-tall person), the ship is so small to the unaided eye it's hard to make out the mast - -- and telescopes weren't developed until 1608 - -- a time when the fact that the Earth was round had been proven practically.

** The first person recorded to measure the circumference was Eratosthenes in 240 BC. Using the angles of shadows at noon, he was within a 2%-20% margin - pretty good for what he had to work with.
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** The first person recorded to measure the circumference was Eratosthenes in 240 BC. Using the angles of shadows at noon, he was within a 2%-20% margin - -- pretty good for what he had to work with.

14th Nov '15 1:32:49 PM Audobonible
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12th Nov '15 10:45:52 AM Kakai
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* In ''Webcomic/AliceAndTheNightmare'', Wonderland and Looking Glass Territories lay on one side of a flat plain. WordOfGod is that there's something of great interest on the other side.
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