History Main / FantasyForbiddingFather

21st May '17 11:53:11 PM StrixObscuro
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* Played straight in the film adaptation of ''Film/TheNeverendingStory'' - Bastian's father in the opening scene tells his son to get his head out of the clouds because he's failing in school as a result. In the end, if not for Bastian's vivid imagination [[spoiler: Fantasia would have been destroyed forever.]]

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* Played straight in the film adaptation of ''Film/TheNeverendingStory'' - Bastian's father in the opening scene tells his son to get his head out of the clouds because he's failing in school as a result. In the end, if not for Bastian's vivid imagination [[spoiler: Fantasia [[spoiler:Fantasia would have been destroyed forever.]]


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* In ''Film/{{Paulie}}'', Marie's dad thinks that she already spends too much time fantasizing, blames her fantasies for her stutter, and thus takes it as a personal affront when she begins insisting that Paulie is helping her learn how to speak and thus convinces her mother to get rid of Paulie.
14th Apr '17 6:32:57 AM SebastianGray
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** In the background for ''TabletopGame/BloodBowl'', the Dragon Princes were a team made up of board young High Elf princes. Horrified that their children wished to participate in such an uncouth game, the players’ parents threatened to disinherit them if they played against any team that wasn’t their social equal, resulting in the Dragon Princes disbanding without playing a single game.
** When he was a child Belial, Grand Master of the [[EliteArmy Deathwing]] from ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'', wanted to participate in the tournament held to find recruits for the Dark Angels Chapter of [[SuperSoldier Adeptus Astartes]]. Belial’s father however, forbade him from entering as he wanted his son to follow in his footsteps as the leader of their tribe. In defiance, Belial disguised himself and entered the contest and managed to duel a [[BadassPreacher Space Marine Chaplain]] for 7 minutes before being knocked out.
25th Mar '17 4:01:04 PM rjd1922
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* Raz's father in ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'', who is opposed to him learning to use his psychic powers. [[spoiler:He's only trying to protect Raz from his family's enemies by keeping him out of the world of psychics, and is actually a psychic himself.]] While Raz sees his father's constant acrobatic training as oppressive, those skills turn out to be massively useful in psychonaut work. It is heavily implied that this was actually Raz's father's reasoning behind the training and Raz was misinterpreting things. When Raz's father meets Raz's mental image of him, he's visibly hurt.

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* Raz's father Augustus Aquato in ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'', who is opposed to him learning to use his psychic powers. [[spoiler:He's only trying to protect Raz from his family's enemies by keeping him out of the world of psychics, and is actually a psychic himself.]] While Raz sees his father's constant acrobatic training as oppressive, those skills turn out to be massively useful in psychonaut work. It [[spoiler:It is heavily implied that this was actually Raz's father's reasoning behind the training and Raz was misinterpreting things. When Raz's father meets Raz's mental image of him, he's visibly hurt.]]
23rd Mar '17 2:47:10 PM gb00393
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* In Season 6 of ''Series/GameOfThrones'', Tyrion Lannister recounts that he once asked for a dragon for his nameday. The entire family laughed at this, and then his father drilled it into his head that dragons were long extinct.

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In Season 6 of ''Series/GameOfThrones'', 6, Tyrion Lannister recounts that he once asked for a dragon for his nameday. The entire family laughed at this, and then his father drilled it into his head that dragons were long extinct.
** While Ned Stark loves his daughter Arya, and even appoints a tutor to teach her basic swordsmanship, Ned never sees it as more than a hobby and doesn't quite understand why Arya takes it as seriously as she does. He still expects that when she grows up she would become a ProperLady and have an ArrangedMarriage. Arya bluntly tells him, "That's not me!" and it's the only point on which she disagrees with her father.
18th Mar '17 4:33:10 PM Abodos
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* In one of the retrievable memories from ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', Zelda is excitedly telling Link about all the progress Hyrule has made in controlling the Guardians. Things turn tense when her father King Rhoam shows up to scold her and forbid her from spending her time learning about the machines rather than figuring out how to unlock the [[RoyaltySuperPower Sealing Power]] that will let her defeat Calamity Ganon. What makes Zelda especially resentful is that she ''has'' been praying at the requisite fountains and doing all manner of other things to unlock this ability, all for naught.
15th Mar '17 10:34:26 PM Pichu-kun
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* In Creator/{{Disney}}'s ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', Mother Gothel kept Rapunzel's desire to leave the tower she was [[GildedCage living/prisoner in]] in check for most of her life by a combination of belittling her and telling terrifying tales of the outside. In this variation, however, Gothel has no interest in protecting Rapunzel's feelings or well-being, and keeping her in the tower is directly related to Gothel's own gain.
** This is reinforced by Gothel by attempting to limit her imagination; the only books in the tower are Botany, Geology, and Cooking, which Rapunzel has read hundreds of times before, two of which are fairly useless to her as she never goes outside and one can directly benefit Gothel.

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* In Creator/{{Disney}}'s ''Disney/{{Tangled}}'', Mother Gothel kept Rapunzel's desire to leave the tower she was [[GildedCage living/prisoner in]] in check for most of her life by a combination of belittling her and telling terrifying tales of the outside. In this variation, however, Gothel has no interest in protecting Rapunzel's feelings or well-being, and keeping her in the tower is directly related to Gothel's own gain.
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gain. This is reinforced by Gothel by attempting to limit her imagination; the only books in the tower are Botany, Geology, and Cooking, which Rapunzel has read hundreds of times before, two of which are fairly useless to her as she never goes outside and one can directly benefit Gothel.



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* Willy Wonka's dad from the 2000's ''Film/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory'' movie was like this. He opposed candymaking since he was [[spoiler: a dentist]].
** In the however, it's revealed that he has kept newspaper clippings regarding the growing success of Wonka's factory.

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* Willy Wonka's dad from the 2000's ''Film/CharlieAndTheChocolateFactory'' movie was like this. He opposed candymaking since he was [[spoiler: a dentist]].
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dentist]]. In the end however, it's revealed that he has kept newspaper clippings regarding the growing success of Wonka's factory.



* Bianca's father in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' is this until Elesa sets him straight.
* Raz's father in ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'', who is opposed to him learning to use his psychic powers. [[spoiler:He's only trying to protect Raz from his family's enemies by keeping him out of the world of psychics, and is actually a psychic himself.]]
** While Raz sees his father's constant acrobatic training as oppressive, those skills turn out to be massively useful in psychonaut work. It is heavily implied that this was actually Raz's father's reasoning behind the training and Raz was misinterpreting things. When Raz's father meets Raz's mental image of him, he's visibly hurt.

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* Bianca's father in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite'' is this until Elesa sets him straight.
straight. He refuses to let his daughter become a trainer due to worries about the danger.
* Raz's father in ''VideoGame/{{Psychonauts}}'', who is opposed to him learning to use his psychic powers. [[spoiler:He's only trying to protect Raz from his family's enemies by keeping him out of the world of psychics, and is actually a psychic himself.]]
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]] While Raz sees his father's constant acrobatic training as oppressive, those skills turn out to be massively useful in psychonaut work. It is heavily implied that this was actually Raz's father's reasoning behind the training and Raz was misinterpreting things. When Raz's father meets Raz's mental image of him, he's visibly hurt.


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* Riot's father in ''WesternAnimation/{{Jem}}'' wouldn't allow his son to be a "sissy" who played music. He spanked him for even playing the piano and broke his guitar. Riot tried to appeal to his dad by joining the army like him, however after he left to join a band and was given a dishonorable discharge his dad disowned him.
12th Mar '17 11:17:02 PM Paireon
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* In ''DoomRepercussionsOfEvil'', John Stalvern has a flashback to when he was a child, where he tells his father about wanting to "be on the spaceship" and fight monsters. His father tells him not to, as he "will BE KILL BY DEMONS". Though this is somewhat justified, as his forbidding was more out of concern for his son's well-being. He grows up to fight monsters anyway.

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* In ''DoomRepercussionsOfEvil'', John Stalvern has a flashback to when he was a child, where he tells his father about wanting to "be on the spaceship" and fight monsters. His father tells him not to, as he "will BE KILL BY DEMONS". Though this is somewhat justified, as his forbidding was more out of concern for his son's well-being. He grows up to fight monsters anyway. [[AndThenJohnWasAZombie It doesn't end well for him]].
5th Mar '17 11:26:37 AM ZombieAladdin
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What's cruelest about this attitude is he probably ''does'' hold his child's best interests at heart, but is too close-minded to consider that there are many valid careers and hobbies for their child, and that they are capable of choosing for themselves. In these cases, the dad does come around to accepting their child's interests and vocation with a little coaxing. If the kid later ''really'' hits the big time in those fields, the father will shake his head wondering in astonishment how that is possible. A [[AllTakeAndNoGive more sinister possibility]] is the dad is trying to somehow make their child co-dependent or at least clip their wings so they never leave or get out from under his thumb, either forcing them to follow a family legacy or just out of sheer malice.

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What's cruelest about this attitude is he probably ''does'' hold his child's best interests at heart, but is too close-minded to consider that there are many valid careers and hobbies for their child, and that they are capable of choosing for themselves. In these cases, the dad does come around to accepting their child's interests and vocation with a little coaxing. If the kid later ''really'' hits the big time in those fields, the father will shake his head wondering in astonishment how that is possible. A [[AllTakeAndNoGive more sinister possibility]] is the dad is trying to somehow make their child co-dependent or at least clip their wings so they never leave or get out from under his thumb, either forcing them to [[FollowInMyFootsteps follow a family legacy legacy]] or just out of sheer malice.
22nd Feb '17 7:12:15 PM gewunomox
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* "The guitar's all right, [[Creator/JohnLennon John]], but you'll never make a living at it."

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* "The guitar's all right, [[Creator/JohnLennon [[Music/JohnLennon John]], but you'll never make a living at it."
22nd Feb '17 12:56:11 PM MasterofGalaxies4628
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->'''Father''': I got a call from your math teacher yesterday. She says that you were...drawing horses in your math book.
->'''Bastian''': Unicorns. They were unicorns.
->'''Father''': Stop daydreaming. Start facing your problems.
-->-- ''Film/TheNeverendingStory''

A father, [[MyBelovedSmother mother]], or [[ParentalSubstitute guardian]] (these last two are less common) disapproves of their child or ward reading "fairy stories", playing fantasy or scifi games, sports, and even such "useless" hobbies as astronomy, boxing and ''being literate''. In extreme cases, anything the child likes that isn't directly and concretely tied to whatever it is their dad does for a living (or that he wants ''them'' to do for a living) is seen as an utter waste. The dad may even break, burn or sell anything of this nature their child owns, possibly even punishing or locking them up.

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->'''Father''': ->'''Father:''' I got a call from your math teacher yesterday. She says that you were...drawing horses in your math book. \n->'''Bastian''': \\
'''Bastian:'''
Unicorns. They were unicorns.
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unicorns.\\
'''Father:'''
Stop daydreaming. Start facing your problems.
-->-- ''Film/TheNeverendingStory''

-->--''Film/TheNeverendingStory''

A father, [[MyBelovedSmother mother]], or [[ParentalSubstitute guardian]] (these last two are less common) common[[note]]Not to mention "father" provides for AddedAlliterativeAppeal.[[/note]]) disapproves of their child or ward reading "fairy stories", playing fantasy or scifi sci-fi games, sports, and even such "useless" hobbies as astronomy, boxing and ''being literate''. In extreme cases, anything the child likes that isn't directly and concretely tied to whatever it is their dad does for a living (or that he wants ''them'' to do for a living) is seen as an utter waste. The dad may even break, burn or sell anything of this nature their child owns, possibly even punishing or locking them up.



What's cruelest about this attitude is he probably ''does'' hold his child's best interests at heart, but is too close-minded to consider that there are many valid careers and hobbies for their child, and that they are capable of choosing for themselves. In these cases the dad does come around to accepting their child's interests and vocation with a little coaxing. If the kid later ''really'' hits the big time in those fields, the father will shake his head wondering in astonishment how that is possible. A [[AllTakeAndNoGive more sinister possibility]] is the dad is trying to somehow make their child co-dependent or at least clip their wings so they never leave or get out from under his thumb, either forcing them to follow a family legacy or just out of sheer malice.

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What's cruelest about this attitude is he probably ''does'' hold his child's best interests at heart, but is too close-minded to consider that there are many valid careers and hobbies for their child, and that they are capable of choosing for themselves. In these cases cases, the dad does come around to accepting their child's interests and vocation with a little coaxing. If the kid later ''really'' hits the big time in those fields, the father will shake his head wondering in astonishment how that is possible. A [[AllTakeAndNoGive more sinister possibility]] is the dad is trying to somehow make their child co-dependent or at least clip their wings so they never leave or get out from under his thumb, either forcing them to follow a family legacy or just out of sheer malice.






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* Neither did Satoru Iwata's (R.I.P.) parents of him joining the staff at Nintendo. He went on to run the company. Notice that Iwata was willing to speak about anything in his past in his "Iwata Asks" column--except his parents.

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* Neither did Satoru Iwata's (R.I.P.) UsefulNotes/SatoruIwata's parents approve of him joining the staff at Nintendo. He went on to run the company. Notice that Iwata was willing to speak about anything in his past in his "Iwata Asks" column--except his parents.






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