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25th Sep '16 3:29:01 AM Morgenthaler
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* In ''{{Exalted}}'', this is how new Abyssals are made: a Solar is captured, strapped into a Monstrance of Celestial Portion, and tortured until they die, become catatonic, or become an Abyssal. There's nothing that prevents them from breaking loose, trying to rise again and setting off on a quest for redemption back into a Solar...
* MageTheAscension puts this spin on its primary "antagonist" faction, the Technocratic Union. Back in the olden days, they were bona-fide heroes, fighting the old-tyme {{Sorcerous Overlord}}s of the world as the Order of Reason, in the name of God, the common good, and the {{Muggles}} of the world. Nowadays, while they haven't ''quite'' turned into complete villains yet, they've certainly fallen very far from their idealistic past, and quite a lot of Technocrats are more concerned with control and stability than making a positive difference in the world. And the fact that they're much better at making people [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve not believe in magic]] than they are at making them enthusiastic about science is one of many factors slowly killing the world by inches. Unlike many WorldOfDarkness antagonists, Technocratic characters are completely playable, and their sourcebooks often stress the possibility for player characters to be {{Science Hero}}es rather than stodgy, soulless bureaucrats and to act as idealistic {{Internal Reformist}}s working to make the Union a better place.

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* In ''{{Exalted}}'', ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'', this is how new Abyssals are made: a Solar is captured, strapped into a Monstrance of Celestial Portion, and tortured until they die, become catatonic, or become an Abyssal. There's nothing that prevents them from breaking loose, trying to rise again and setting off on a quest for redemption back into a Solar...
* MageTheAscension ''TabletopGame/MageTheAscension'' puts this spin on its primary "antagonist" faction, the Technocratic Union. Back in the olden days, they were bona-fide heroes, fighting the old-tyme {{Sorcerous Overlord}}s of the world as the Order of Reason, in the name of God, the common good, and the {{Muggles}} of the world. Nowadays, while they haven't ''quite'' turned into complete villains yet, they've certainly fallen very far from their idealistic past, and quite a lot of Technocrats are more concerned with control and stability than making a positive difference in the world. And the fact that they're much better at making people [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve not believe in magic]] than they are at making them enthusiastic about science is one of many factors slowly killing the world by inches. Unlike many WorldOfDarkness antagonists, Technocratic characters are completely playable, and their sourcebooks often stress the possibility for player characters to be {{Science Hero}}es rather than stodgy, soulless bureaucrats and to act as idealistic {{Internal Reformist}}s working to make the Union a better place.
9th Sep '16 5:40:13 PM WillBGood
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** A Fallen Hero or a Misunderstood one? Alpharius and Omegon, the twin Primarchs of the Alpha Legion seemingly sided with Horus against the Emperor. However, they did this after being informed by an universal alien organisation that when the Emperor would defeat Horus, the universe would continue in constant warfare against the [[UltimateEvil Chaos Gods]] , ultimately devouring the universe in the proces. They were told that when Horus would defeat the Emperor, the Empire would fall into chaos for 2 or 3 generations after which the Fallen Primarchs and Horus, ridden with guilt of their actions, would seek war upon themselves and destroy mankind and the [[UltimateEvil Chaos Gods]] in the proces (which is what the Emperor was trying to do). Upon reflecting this information the Alpha Legion decided to side with Horus against the Emperor to actually [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans follow the path he had directed]]for destruction of the [[UltimateEvil Chaos Gods]]. Thus they became Fallen Heroes to take the action a Right Hero should do.

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** A Fallen Hero or a Misunderstood one? Alpharius and Omegon, the twin Primarchs of the Alpha Legion seemingly sided with Horus against the Emperor. However, they did this after being informed by an universal alien organisation that when the Emperor would defeat Horus, the universe would continue in constant warfare against the [[UltimateEvil Chaos Gods]] , ultimately devouring the universe in the proces. They were told that when Horus would defeat the Emperor, the Empire would fall into chaos for 2 or 3 generations after which the Fallen Primarchs and Horus, ridden with guilt of their actions, would seek war upon themselves and destroy mankind and the [[UltimateEvil Chaos Gods]] in the proces (which is what the Emperor was trying to do). Upon reflecting this information the Alpha Legion decided to side with Horus against the Emperor to actually [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans follow the path he had directed]]for directed]] for destruction of the [[UltimateEvil Chaos Gods]]. Thus they became Fallen Heroes to take the action a Right Hero should do.
9th Sep '16 5:35:00 PM WillBGood
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** ''Bellerphon''. The first great Hero of the Heoric Age evne before Herakles and Perseus, he killed the Chimera. But then thought he was worthy of godhood and attempted to invade Olympus with Pegasus.

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** ''Bellerphon''. Bellerophon. The first great Hero of the Heoric Age evne even before Herakles and Perseus, he killed the Chimera. But then he thought he was worthy of godhood and attempted to invade Olympus with Pegasus.
9th Sep '16 5:28:38 PM WillBGood
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* Numerous times on ''Franchise/Law&Order'' and its various spin-offs as a revered sports star or actor will be revealed as a killer, pedophile, rapist or worse.

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* Numerous times on ''Franchise/Law&Order'' ''Franchise/LawAndOrder'' and its various spin-offs as a revered sports star or actor will be revealed as a killer, pedophile, rapist or worse.
9th Sep '16 5:20:03 PM WillBGood
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Usually revealed in a NotSoDifferent moment. Almost always gets a StartOfDarkness, and often implicates a BecameTheirOwnAntithesis. Christopher Booker's [[Literature/TheSevenBasicPlots sixth basic plot]], {{Tragedy}}, uses this character arc, with the Fallen Hero as main character. Compare FaceHeelTurn, TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget. See also FallenAngel, TragicVillain, and TragicMonster. SuperTrope to TheParagonAlwaysRebels, in which the character has such influence over other good guys that they fall with him or her. When the Fallen Hero used to be a main character in a previous work, they're a RogueProtagonist.

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Usually revealed in a NotSoDifferent moment. Almost always gets a StartOfDarkness, and often implicates a implies BecameTheirOwnAntithesis. Christopher Booker's [[Literature/TheSevenBasicPlots sixth basic plot]], {{Tragedy}}, uses this character arc, with the Fallen Hero as main character. Compare FaceHeelTurn, TheDarkSideWillMakeYouForget. See also FallenAngel, TragicVillain, and TragicMonster. SuperTrope to TheParagonAlwaysRebels, in which the character has such influence over other good guys that they fall with him or her. When the Fallen Hero used to be a main character in a previous work, they're a RogueProtagonist.
4th Sep '16 10:39:51 PM TVRulezAgain
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* ''WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaCritic'' was once an ethical person who tore apart movies that were only in it for the money and defended how children shouldn't be exposed to bad products. Later, he only does reviews because he admits that he's only in it for the money and casually kills kids a few times.

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* ''WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaCritic'' ''WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic'' was once an ethical person who tore apart movies that were only in it for the money and defended how children shouldn't be exposed to bad products. Later, he only does reviews because he admits that he's only in it for the money and casually kills kids a few times.
26th Aug '16 7:29:30 AM ZimFan89
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** In ''FanFic/QueenOfAllOni'', Jade becomes this after a spell reawakens her Queen of the Shadowkhan persona.
*** In the second half of the story, [[spoiler: Jade kidnaps Viper and performs a ritual that transforms her into [[TheDragon Hebi]], the new General of the [[EliteMooks Samurai Khan]], and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy conditions her]] to be [[UndyingLoyalty utterly loyal]] to Jade.]]

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** In ''FanFic/QueenOfAllOni'', Jade becomes this after a spell reawakens her Queen of the Shadowkhan persona.
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persona. And then in the second half of the story, [[spoiler: Jade kidnaps Viper and performs a ritual that transforms her into [[TheDragon Hebi]], the new General of the [[EliteMooks Samurai Khan]], and [[BrainwashedAndCrazy conditions her]] to be [[UndyingLoyalty utterly loyal]] to Jade.]]]]
** The same thing happens in ''FanFic/{{Webwork}}'', which is then compounded by Jade spending several years (courtesy of NarniaTime that makes it only a few hours on Earth) in [[EldritchLocation the Emptiness]] with only [[ManipulativeBastard Tarakudo]] and [[EvilMentor the Old Queen]] as company, while being further transformed into a Shadowkhan/[[SpiderPeople Jorogumo]] hybrid. By the time she returns to Earth, her morality has been completely twisted.
21st Aug '16 8:09:01 PM JohnChurchill
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* In the WesternAnimation/MyLitlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Fanfic/TheShadowWars Story Verse, this is true of Grey Hoof (originally from VideoGame/StoryOfTheBlanks). He was a heroic leader and loving father, whose StartOfDarkness came when plagues ravaged Sunney Towne and he could do nothing to protect his Ponies from them. He became increasingly frantic in his desire to prevent plagues from returning, eventually [[OffingTheOffspring killing his most beloved daughter Ruby Gift]] in the delusion that she had the Mark Pox and would die horribly anyway.

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* In the WesternAnimation/MyLitlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Fanfic/TheShadowWars Story Verse, this is true of Grey Hoof (originally from VideoGame/StoryOfTheBlanks). He was a heroic leader and loving father, whose StartOfDarkness came when plagues ravaged Sunney Towne and he could do nothing to protect his Ponies from them. He became increasingly frantic in his desire to prevent these plagues from returning, eventually returning. Eventually he [[OffingTheOffspring killing kills his most beloved daughter Ruby Gift]] in the delusion that she had the Mark Pox and would die horribly anyway.anyway -- setting in motion the events leading to the Curse.
21st Aug '16 8:03:40 PM JohnChurchill
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* In the WesternAnimation/MyLitlePony Fanfic/TheShadowWars Story Verse, this is true of Grey Hoof (originally from VideoGame/StoryOfTheBlanks). He was a heroic leader and loving father, whose StartOfDarkness came when plagues ravaged Sunney Towne and he could do nothing to protect his Ponies from them. He became increasingly frantic in his desire to prevent plagues from returning, eventually [[OffingTheOffspring killing his most beloved daughter Ruby Gift]] in the delusion that she had the Mark Pox and would die horribly anyway.

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* In the WesternAnimation/MyLitlePony WesternAnimation/MyLitlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Fanfic/TheShadowWars Story Verse, this is true of Grey Hoof (originally from VideoGame/StoryOfTheBlanks). He was a heroic leader and loving father, whose StartOfDarkness came when plagues ravaged Sunney Towne and he could do nothing to protect his Ponies from them. He became increasingly frantic in his desire to prevent plagues from returning, eventually [[OffingTheOffspring killing his most beloved daughter Ruby Gift]] in the delusion that she had the Mark Pox and would die horribly anyway.
21st Aug '16 7:56:18 PM JohnChurchill
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* In the Fanfic/ShadowWars Story Verse, this is true of Grey Hoof (originally from VideoGame/StoryOfTheBlanks). He was a heroic leader and loving father, whose StartOfDarkness came when plagues ravaged Sunney Towne and he could do nothing to protect his Ponies from them. He became increasingly frantic in his desire to prevent plagues from returning, eventually [[OffingTheOffspring killing his most beloved daughter Ruby Gift]] in the delusion that she had the Mark Pox and would die horribly anyway.

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* In the Fanfic/ShadowWars WesternAnimation/MyLitlePony Fanfic/TheShadowWars Story Verse, this is true of Grey Hoof (originally from VideoGame/StoryOfTheBlanks). He was a heroic leader and loving father, whose StartOfDarkness came when plagues ravaged Sunney Towne and he could do nothing to protect his Ponies from them. He became increasingly frantic in his desire to prevent plagues from returning, eventually [[OffingTheOffspring killing his most beloved daughter Ruby Gift]] in the delusion that she had the Mark Pox and would die horribly anyway.
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