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24th Nov '17 12:13:36 PM superboy313
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** It works in reverse too: Sega of America and Sega of Japan have separate copyrights despite being part of the same parent company and nothing created specifically for the comic or the [[WesternAnimation/SonicSatAM cartoon series]] it was based on can appear in other mediums. This is why ''VideoGame/SonicSpinball'' got away with cameos from Sally, Bunnie, Rotor and Muttski as the game was made in America.
*** Writer Ian Flynn has stated that, because of these copyrights, he can't use anything from ''Anime/SonicTheHedgehogTheMovie'' nor ''Anime/SonicX'' in the comics, despite Archie making a ''Sonic X'' comic and having a brief crossover with the main title and ''Sonic Universe''. This is more due to the fact that both series have more, different copyright holders than just Sega itself - the animation studios (Creator/StudioPierrot and Creator/TMSEntertainment, respectively) and the American distributors (the now-defunct Creator/ADVFilms for ''Sonic the Movie'', and the now-defunct Creator/FourKidsEntertainment, whose ''Sonic X'' distributions rights were passed over to Creator/SabanBrands). However, this was outright ignored concerning ''Sonic the Movie'', as Karl Bollers used that continuity to show Mobius' strange changing. Sega was ''quite'' angry about this.
20th Nov '17 7:20:34 PM RoarkTenjouin
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* The Alien Spell from ''Series/UltraSeven'' seems to have been given this fate, mainly due to the UnfortunateImplications of it's design, which was inspired by survivors of the atomic bombings (and it's episode is also a BannedEpisode). Starbem Gyeron, another {{Kaijuu}} from the same series, was believed to have suffered this fate as well, since it's episode was removed from circulation as a result of the 2011 Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster; however, said rumor turned out to be false, since Gyeron later reappeared in episode 20 of ''Series/UltramanGeed''.
20th Nov '17 6:48:26 PM BeeKirbysNewComputer
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* A similar but slightly more amicable example is Geno, Mallow, and the other original characters from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG''. While they (especially Geno) proved popular, Square-Enix holds the trademarks to them, essentially cutting them off from the rest of the Mario universe. Geno was able to make exceedingly brief cameos in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'' and ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros 4'' (as a DLC Mii Fighter costume for the latter) with permission from Square. As a result, {{exp|y}}ies of the Seven Stars that were the game's {{MacGuffin}}s appeared in ''[[VideoGame/PaperMario64 Paper Mario]]''.

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* A similar but slightly more amicable example is Geno, Mallow, and the other original characters from ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG''. While they (especially Geno) proved popular, Square-Enix holds the trademarks to them, essentially cutting them off from the rest of the Mario universe. Geno was able to make exceedingly brief cameos in ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga'' ''VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiSuperstarSaga''[[note]]This cameo was sadly not retained in the remake.[[/note]] and ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros 4'' (as a DLC Mii Fighter costume for the latter) with permission from Square. As a result, {{exp|y}}ies of the Seven Stars that were the game's {{MacGuffin}}s appeared in ''[[VideoGame/PaperMario64 Paper Mario]]''.
10th Nov '17 3:12:43 PM DLMaximum1
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** Franchise/WonderWoman was also not allowed to appear on ''Smallville'', leading to nearly four seasons where all non-original superheroes on "Smallville" were men. Then ComicBook/BlackCanary came on board. The final season featured a scene where Chloe Sullivan implied that she had met both Batman and Wonder Woman during her globe-trotting adventures, with the implication that they would end up meeting Clark sometime after the show's final episode.

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** Franchise/WonderWoman was also not allowed to appear on ''Smallville'', leading to nearly four seasons where all non-original superheroes who appeared on "Smallville" the show were men. Then ComicBook/BlackCanary came on board. The final season featured a scene where Chloe Sullivan implied that she had met both Batman and Wonder Woman during her globe-trotting adventures, with the implication that they would end up meeting Clark sometime after the show's final episode.
10th Nov '17 1:43:11 PM DLMaximum1
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* The Bat-Embargo in ''[[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]]''; Franchise/{{Batman}} characters couldn't appear in the series, because ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'' was airing at the same time, and executives feared "[[ViewersAreMorons confusion]]". A similar restriction was in place for ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', although this one was mutual and prevented Robin from showing up on ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'' until the fourth season (which gave us Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} coming first). Later, when Comicbook/{{Aquaman}} received the failed live-action pilot for the CW, Aquaman and his supporting cast could not appear on JLU either (leading to the creation of "Devil Ray", and, likely, the replacement of Wonder Woman for Aquaman in the plot of "To Another Shore").

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* The Bat-Embargo in ''[[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]]''; Franchise/{{Batman}} characters couldn't appear in the series, because ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'' was airing at the same time, and executives feared "[[ViewersAreMorons confusion]]". A similar restriction was in place for ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', although this one was mutual and prevented Robin from showing up on ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'' until the fourth season (which gave us Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} coming appearing first). Later, when Comicbook/{{Aquaman}} received the failed live-action pilot for the CW, Aquaman and his supporting cast could not appear on JLU either (leading to the creation of "Devil Ray", and, likely, the replacement of Wonder Woman for Aquaman in the plot of "To Another Shore").
10th Nov '17 1:39:59 PM DLMaximum1
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** ''Comicbook/GhostRider'' rights were sold off to Sony, who released ''Film/GhostRider'' film in 2007 and ''Film/GhostRiderSpiritOfVengeance'' sequel in 2012. In 2013 the rights returned to Marvel, which allowed for ''ComicBook/AllNewGhostRider'' Robbie Reyes to prominently feature in fourth season of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD''

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** ''Comicbook/GhostRider'' rights were sold off to Sony, who released the ''Film/GhostRider'' film in 2007 and ''Film/GhostRiderSpiritOfVengeance'' sequel in 2012. In 2013 the rights returned to Marvel, which allowed for ''ComicBook/AllNewGhostRider'' Robbie Reyes to prominently feature in fourth season of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD''
10th Nov '17 1:38:38 PM DLMaximum1
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** ''ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}'' rights were sold off to Fox, who made 2003 ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'' movie and 2005 ''Film/{{Elektra}}'' spinoff. In 2012, the rights returned to Marvel, who used them to made ''Series/Daredevil2015'', a TV series that kicked off Creator/{{Netflix}} branch of the MCU that would eventually grow into six series interconnected with each other but mostly separated from the movies despite nominally being set in the same world.

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** ''ComicBook/{{Daredevil}}'' rights were sold off to Fox, who made the 2003 ''Film/{{Daredevil}}'' movie and 2005 ''Film/{{Elektra}}'' spinoff. In 2012, the rights returned to Marvel, who used them to made ''Series/Daredevil2015'', a create the ''Series/Daredevil2015'' TV series that series, which kicked off the Creator/{{Netflix}} branch of the MCU that would eventually grow into six series interconnected with each other other, but mostly separated from the movies despite nominally being set in the same world.
10th Nov '17 12:53:13 PM DLMaximum1
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** Comicbook/CaptainAmerica rights have never left Marvel. Along with Comicbook/IronMan, Comicbook/IncredibleHulk, Comicbook/TheMightyThor, ComicBook/NickFury and Comicbook/BlackWidow he was prominent in the MCU since Phase 1, culminating in ''Film/TheAvengers2012''. However, the films say that Captain America's shield is made of pure vibranium, while in the comics, it's made of vibranium and adamantium, the latter of which belongs to Fox due to its use in the X-Men films.
** ''ComicBook/{{Blade}}'' rights were sold off to New Line, who made them into successfull ''Film/BladeTrilogy''. Unable to produce the fourth film for various reasons, the rights eventually expired and returned to Marvel in 2011.

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** Comicbook/CaptainAmerica rights have never left Marvel. Along with Comicbook/IronMan, Comicbook/IncredibleHulk, Comicbook/TheMightyThor, ComicBook/NickFury and Comicbook/BlackWidow Comicbook/BlackWidow, he was prominent in the MCU since Phase 1, culminating in ''Film/TheAvengers2012''. However, the films say that Captain America's shield is made of pure vibranium, while in the comics, it's made of vibranium and adamantium, the latter of which belongs to Fox due to its use in the X-Men films.
** ''ComicBook/{{Blade}}'' rights were sold off to New Line, who made them into successfull the successful ''Film/BladeTrilogy''. Unable to produce the fourth film for various reasons, the rights eventually expired and returned to Marvel in 2011.
10th Nov '17 12:50:41 PM DLMaximum1
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** ''Comicbook/GhostRider'' rights were sold off to Sony, who released ''Film/GhostRider'' film in 2007 and ''Film/GhostRiderSpiritOfVengeance'' sequel in 2012. In 2013 the rights returned to Marvel, which allowed for ''ComicBook/AllNewGhostRider'' Robbie Reyes to prominently feature in fourth season of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD''.

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** ''Comicbook/GhostRider'' rights were sold off to Sony, who released ''Film/GhostRider'' film in 2007 and ''Film/GhostRiderSpiritOfVengeance'' sequel in 2012. In 2013 the rights returned to Marvel, which allowed for ''ComicBook/AllNewGhostRider'' Robbie Reyes to prominently feature in fourth season of ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD''.''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD''
10th Nov '17 12:49:45 PM DLMaximum1
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*** The Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver issues seem to extend to the video games as well, to a degree. Neither character is present in ''VideoGame/AvengersAcademy'', with Scarlet Witch having her role in the game's ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' tie-in taken by Sif. They were also absent from ''VideoGame/DisneyInfinity'', despite ''3.0'' having a heavy ''Civil War'' emphasis, making Scarlet Witch the only superhero from that movie who doesn't appear in the game in any form . When asked about the absence of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, John Vignocchi implied that there are legal issues preventing the two from appearing in certain games. This seems to vary from title to title though, as both characters ''are'' playable in ''VideoGame/LegoMarvelsAvengers''.

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*** The Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver issues seem to extend to the video games as well, to a degree. Neither character is present in ''VideoGame/AvengersAcademy'', with Scarlet Witch having her role in the game's ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' tie-in taken by Sif. They were also absent from ''VideoGame/DisneyInfinity'', despite ''3.0'' having a heavy ''Civil War'' emphasis, making Scarlet Witch the only superhero from that movie who doesn't appear in the game in any form .form. When asked about the absence of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver, John Vignocchi implied that there are legal issues preventing the two from appearing in certain games. This seems to vary from title to title though, as both characters ''are'' playable in ''VideoGame/LegoMarvelsAvengers''.



** In 2015 Marvel made a historic announcement that they were able to negotiate ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'' rights with Sony. That studio had previously released the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'', but when the fourth film got stuck in DevelopmentHell, leading to the risk of them losing the license like above examples, opted for a full reboot instead of having the rights return to Marvel. ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'' was intended to start its own Spider-themed shared universe until the plans fell through due to disappointing reception of ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2''. In this case, Sony kept all their distribution, licensing and merchandizing rights and profits from solo movies such as ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'', while Marvel Studios has creative freedom to use the character in both solo films and crossover movies starting with ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''. Interestingly, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen there were plans]] for a [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/15/a-spider-manavengers-crossover-almost-happened collaboration between Sony and Marvel even before that]]. Oscorp Tower from ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan'' was supposed to appear in ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', but the CGI modeling for the building couldn't be completed on time and according to Creator/HughJackman himself, he was originally going to make a cameo as ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} in the first ''Film/SpiderMan1'' movie, but plans fell through when nobody could find his costume.

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** In 2015 2015, Marvel made a historic announcement that they were able to negotiate ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'' film rights with Sony. That studio had previously released the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'', but when the fourth film got stuck in DevelopmentHell, leading to the risk of them losing the license like above examples, opted for a full reboot instead of having the rights return to Marvel. ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'' was intended to start its own Spider-themed shared universe until the plans fell through due to disappointing reception of ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2''. In this case, Sony kept all their distribution, licensing and merchandizing merchandising rights and profits from solo movies such as ''Film/SpiderManHomecoming'', while Marvel Studios has creative freedom to use the character in both solo films and crossover movies starting with ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''. Interestingly, [[WhatCouldHaveBeen there were plans]] for a [[http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/15/a-spider-manavengers-crossover-almost-happened collaboration between Sony and Marvel even before that]]. Oscorp Tower from ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan'' was supposed to appear in ''Film/TheAvengers2012'', but the CGI modeling for the building couldn't be completed on time and according to Creator/HughJackman himself, he was originally going to make a cameo as ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} in the first ''Film/SpiderMan1'' movie, but plans fell through when nobody could find his costume.



*** Interestingly, ''Film/{{Deadpool}}'' also managed to feature a LawyerFriendlyCameo from Bob, Agent of Comicbook/{{Hydra}} by removing all referenced to the MCU-exclusive organization and set the final action scene on what is obviously a decomissioned SHIELD helicarrier by altering the design just enough to stand out from MCU helicarriers.
** While Creator/{{Universal}} no longer has full film rights to [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]], it's still complicated enough, so don't expect to see him popping up in MCU in the near future.

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*** Interestingly, ''Film/{{Deadpool}}'' also managed to feature a LawyerFriendlyCameo from Bob, Agent of Comicbook/{{Hydra}} by removing all referenced to the MCU-exclusive organization and set the final action scene on what is obviously a decomissioned SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarrier by altering the design just enough to stand out from MCU helicarriers.
** While Creator/{{Universal}} no longer has the full film rights to [[ComicBook/SubMariner Namor]], it's still complicated enough, so don't expect to see him popping up in MCU in the near future. future.



* Not that Bat-Embargos were new...back in the days of the ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends'', when the ''Challenge'' series (with the Legion of Doom) took place, Creator/{{Filmation}}'s ''WesternAnimation/TheNewAdventuresOfBatman'' was still on the air. That's why you'd never see Joker or Catwoman on the Legion of Doom. The Joker and Penguin appeared in one episode each of ''Super Friends'' during the ''Galactic Guardians'' series, after the Filmation cartoon's license on him had run out (and, of course, [[MerchandiseDriven both had figures in the Super Powers Collection]]). On the other hand, Riddler and Scarecrow could not be seen on ''New Adventures'' (except for the former in the opening sequence, inexplicably in a '''pink''' costume).
* It's widely believed that for many years DC did not allow the character Comicbook/BlackLightning to appear in any DC animation (thus resulting in several [[ElectricBlackGuy expies]]) because that would require paying royalties to the creators. This seems to have finally broken in 2009, and the character has since appeared in ''WesternAnimation/SupermanBatmanPublicEnemies'', ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'', ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueCrisisOnTwoEarths'', ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', and a series of WesternAnimation/DCNation shorts. According to ''[=BatB=]'''s staff, the entire thing turned out to be because the legal team were under the impression that DC didn't have rights to the character. When the show's staff asked exactly who did, further investigation turned up the fact that there weren't any legal hang-ups with Black Lightning in the first place. Go figure.

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* Not that Bat-Embargos were new... back in the days of the ''WesternAnimation/SuperFriends'', when the ''Challenge'' series (with the Legion of Doom) took place, Creator/{{Filmation}}'s ''WesternAnimation/TheNewAdventuresOfBatman'' was still on the air. That's why you'd never see Joker or Catwoman on the Legion of Doom. The Joker and Penguin appeared in one episode each of ''Super Friends'' ''Superfriends'' during the ''Galactic Guardians'' series, after the Filmation cartoon's license on him had run out (and, of course, [[MerchandiseDriven both had figures in the Super Powers Collection]]). On the other hand, Riddler and Scarecrow could not be seen on ''New Adventures'' (except for the former in the opening sequence, inexplicably in a '''pink''' costume).
* It's widely believed that for many years years, DC did not allow the character Comicbook/BlackLightning to appear in any DC animation (thus resulting in several [[ElectricBlackGuy expies]]) because that would require paying royalties to the creators.character's creator. This seems to have finally broken in 2009, and the character has since appeared in ''WesternAnimation/SupermanBatmanPublicEnemies'', ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'', ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueCrisisOnTwoEarths'', ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', and a series of WesternAnimation/DCNation shorts. According to ''[=BatB=]'''s staff, the entire thing turned out to be because the legal team were under the impression that DC didn't have rights to the character. When the show's staff asked exactly who did, further investigation turned up the fact that there weren't any legal hang-ups with Black Lightning in the first place. Go figure.



** Franchise/WonderWoman was also not allowed to appear on ''Smallville'', leading to nearly four seasons where all non-original Superheroes on Smallville were men. Then ComicBook/BlackCanary came on board. The final season featured a scene where Chloe Sullivan implied that she had met both Batman and Wonder Woman during her globe-trotting adventures, with the implication that they would end up meeting Clark sometime after the show's final episode.

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** Franchise/WonderWoman was also not allowed to appear on ''Smallville'', leading to nearly four seasons where all non-original Superheroes superheroes on Smallville "Smallville" were men. Then ComicBook/BlackCanary came on board. The final season featured a scene where Chloe Sullivan implied that she had met both Batman and Wonder Woman during her globe-trotting adventures, with the implication that they would end up meeting Clark sometime after the show's final episode.



* The ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' storyline ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'' promised to show off "Every. Spider-Man. Ever." but there are a few that couldn't be used. Eight were mentioned, but seven were confirmed - the Creator/TobeyMaguire Spider-Man from the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'', the Creator/AndrewGarfield Spider-Man from ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'', the Spider-Man from ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheNewAnimatedSeries'', the Spider-Man from ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' and Spider-Boy, Spider-Boy 2099 and Spider-Clone from the above-mentioned ''ComicBook/AmalgamUniverse''. The Live-Action and Cartoon ones are owned by Sony and the Amalgam characters co-owned by Creator/DCComics as Spider-Boy is one-half Spider-Man, one half ComicBook/{{Superboy}}. However, in ''Spider-Verse'' #2, the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield Spider-Men were indirectly mentioned as being part of the army of Spider-Men (one Spider-Man mentioned a version of Spidey who "looked just like the guy in ''Film/{{Seabiscuit}}''" while the Spider-Man he was talking to said he thought he "saw the guy from ''Film/TheSocialNetwork''"). In addition, Spider-Boy makes a ([[LawyerFriendlyCameo mostly obscured]]) cameo appearance in the group shot at the issue's end.

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* The ''Franchise/SpiderMan'' storyline ''ComicBook/SpiderVerse'' promised to show off "Every. Spider-Man. Ever." ", but there are a few that couldn't be used. Eight were mentioned, but seven were confirmed - the Creator/TobeyMaguire Spider-Man from the ''Film/SpiderManTrilogy'', the Creator/AndrewGarfield Spider-Man from ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderManSeries'', the Spider-Man from ''WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheNewAnimatedSeries'', the Spider-Man from ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan'' and Spider-Boy, Spider-Boy Spider-Boy/Spider-Boy 2099 and Spider-Clone from the above-mentioned ''ComicBook/AmalgamUniverse''. The Live-Action and Cartoon ones are owned by Sony and the Amalgam characters co-owned by Creator/DCComics as Spider-Boy is one-half Spider-Man, one half ComicBook/{{Superboy}}. However, in ''Spider-Verse'' #2, the Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield Spider-Men were indirectly mentioned as being part of the army of Spider-Men (one Spider-Man mentioned a version of Spidey who "looked just like the guy in ''Film/{{Seabiscuit}}''" while the Spider-Man he was talking to said he thought he "saw the guy from ''Film/TheSocialNetwork''"). In addition, Spider-Boy makes a ([[LawyerFriendlyCameo mostly obscured]]) cameo appearance in the group shot at the issue's end.
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