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20th Jul '16 12:42:18 AM RobTan
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* In the ''Literature/{{Corum}}'' series, the Vadhagh are extremely elf-like, and are eventually just identifed as elves. Their ancient enemies, the Nahdragh, are barely mentioned, but the one Nahdragh who does appear, is described as stocky, wearing furs and with a vaguely Neanderthal-like appearance.
23rd Jun '16 8:14:17 PM nombretomado
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We've given a lot of information here about the specific races, elves and dwarves, but the core of this trope isn't about them. It's about how that plays out in ''lots'' of stories that have no elves or dwarves in them at all. In historical fictions/fantasies, you'll find aristocrats versus barbarians, for example, which could be exchanged for elves and dwarves quite easily. Science Fiction will have some variation on [[TheTimeMachine Eloi and Morlocks]], or a CrystalSpiresAndTogas race versus a ProudWarriorRace, or a primitive but nature-oriented race versus humans. In a contemporary business setting, it'll be [[ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}} marketeers]] versus [[TheEngineer engineers]]. A lot of the modern retelling of the classic CowboysAndIndians western sagas has been presented as this sort of "spiritual barbarian vs. industrialized civilization" theme. ForceAndFinesse tends to describe their contrasting combat styles.

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We've given a lot of information here about the specific races, elves and dwarves, but the core of this trope isn't about them. It's about how that plays out in ''lots'' of stories that have no elves or dwarves in them at all. In historical fictions/fantasies, you'll find aristocrats versus barbarians, for example, which could be exchanged for elves and dwarves quite easily. Science Fiction will have some variation on [[TheTimeMachine [[Literature/TheTimeMachine Eloi and Morlocks]], or a CrystalSpiresAndTogas race versus a ProudWarriorRace, or a primitive but nature-oriented race versus humans. In a contemporary business setting, it'll be [[ComicStrip/{{Dilbert}} marketeers]] versus [[TheEngineer engineers]]. A lot of the modern retelling of the classic CowboysAndIndians western sagas has been presented as this sort of "spiritual barbarian vs. industrialized civilization" theme. ForceAndFinesse tends to describe their contrasting combat styles.
21st Jun '16 9:52:11 AM Quanyails
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* Elves use [[CoolSword swords]] or [[ArcherArchetype bows]] (or [[BowAndSwordInAccord both]]), weapons requiring flexibility and precision, representations of elegance. Elegance is power. Dwarves use [[AnAxeToGrind axes]], [[DropTheHammer hammers]],[[AutomaticCrossbows crossbows]] or if the setting allows for it, [[CoolGuns guns]], which are primarily about direct, mechanical (in the case of the crossbow) or chemical (for guns) application of force. Force is power.

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* Elves use [[CoolSword swords]] or [[ArcherArchetype bows]] (or [[BowAndSwordInAccord both]]), weapons requiring flexibility and precision, representations of elegance. Elegance is power. Dwarves use [[AnAxeToGrind axes]], [[DropTheHammer hammers]],[[AutomaticCrossbows hammers]], [[AutomaticCrossbows crossbows]] or if the setting allows for it, [[CoolGuns guns]], which are primarily about direct, mechanical (in the case of the crossbow) or chemical (for guns) application of force. Force is power.
17th Jun '16 4:32:16 PM Exxolon
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* Elves use [[CoolSword swords]] or [[ArcherArchetype bows]] (or [[BowAndSwordInAccord both]]), weapons requiring flexibility and precision, representations of elegance. Elegance is power. Dwarves use [[AnAxeToGrind axes]], [[DropTheHammer hammers]],[[AutomaticCrossbows crossbows]] and if the setting allows for it, [[CoolGuns guns]], which are primarily about direct, mechanical (in the case of the crossbow) or chemical (for guns) application of force. Force is power.

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* Elves use [[CoolSword swords]] or [[ArcherArchetype bows]] (or [[BowAndSwordInAccord both]]), weapons requiring flexibility and precision, representations of elegance. Elegance is power. Dwarves use [[AnAxeToGrind axes]], [[DropTheHammer hammers]],[[AutomaticCrossbows crossbows]] and or if the setting allows for it, [[CoolGuns guns]], which are primarily about direct, mechanical (in the case of the crossbow) or chemical (for guns) application of force. Force is power.
17th Jun '16 4:31:50 PM Exxolon
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* Elves use [[CoolSword swords]] or [[ArcherArchetype bows]] (or [[BowAndSwordInAccord both]]), weapons requiring flexibility and precision, representations of elegance. Elegance is power. Dwarves use [[AnAxeToGrind axes]], [[DropTheHammer hammers]] and [[AutomaticCrossbows crossbows]], which are primarily about direct (or in the case of the crossbow, mechanical) application of force. Force is power.

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* Elves use [[CoolSword swords]] or [[ArcherArchetype bows]] (or [[BowAndSwordInAccord both]]), weapons requiring flexibility and precision, representations of elegance. Elegance is power. Dwarves use [[AnAxeToGrind axes]], [[DropTheHammer hammers]] hammers]],[[AutomaticCrossbows crossbows]] and [[AutomaticCrossbows crossbows]], if the setting allows for it, [[CoolGuns guns]], which are primarily about direct (or in direct, mechanical (in the case of the crossbow, mechanical) crossbow) or chemical (for guns) application of force. Force is power.
1st Jun '16 4:14:41 AM Quanyails
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* Essentially there in Julian May's Literature/SagaOfTheExiles with the Tanu and Firvulag. Tanu are tall and beautiful, while the normal Firvulag is short and stocky, although their heroes can be equal or better than the Tanu.

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* Essentially there in Julian May's Literature/SagaOfTheExiles ''Literature/SagaOfTheExiles'' with the Tanu and Firvulag. Tanu are tall and beautiful, while the normal Firvulag is short and stocky, although their heroes can be equal or better than the Tanu.
1st Jun '16 4:11:32 AM Quanyails
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* Elves use [[CoolSword swords]] or [[ArcherArchetype bows]] (or [[BowAndSwordInAccord both]]), weapons requiring flexibility and precision, representations of elegance. Elegance is power. Dwarves use [[AnAxeToGrind axes]], [[DropTheHammer hammers]] and [[AutomaticCrossbows crossbows]], which are primarily about direct (or in the case of the crossbow, mechanical) application of force. Strength is power.

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* Elves use [[CoolSword swords]] or [[ArcherArchetype bows]] (or [[BowAndSwordInAccord both]]), weapons requiring flexibility and precision, representations of elegance. Elegance is power. Dwarves use [[AnAxeToGrind axes]], [[DropTheHammer hammers]] and [[AutomaticCrossbows crossbows]], which are primarily about direct (or in the case of the crossbow, mechanical) application of force. Strength Force is power.
24th May '16 6:48:08 PM letterA
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** You also have the war of the Aesir and the Vanir. The former generally described as gods of war (dwarves), and the latter as gods of nature (elves). Freyr, one of the Vanir, was even the ruler of the Norse alfar.
23rd May '16 1:06:27 PM Wyldchyld
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** The Drahvins and the Rills from Galaxy 4 also show this, with a subversion of BeautyEqualsGoodness. The Drahvins are [[BlondesAreEvil blond]] beautiful women but most are just cloned slaves and their officers are violent imperialists. The Rills are hideous creatures who communicate telepathically and breathe ammonia but turn out to be peaceful explorers. The Drahvins hate the Rills because of their appearance, to the extent they refuse an alliance that could allow both of them to escape a doomed planet, instead trying to steal the Rill ship.

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** The Drahvins and the Rills from Galaxy 4 also show this, with a subversion of BeautyEqualsGoodness. The Drahvins are [[BlondesAreEvil blond]] blond, beautiful women but most are just cloned slaves and their officers are violent imperialists. The Rills are hideous creatures who communicate telepathically and breathe ammonia but turn out to be peaceful explorers. The Drahvins hate the Rills because of their appearance, to the extent they refuse an alliance that could allow both of them to escape a doomed planet, instead trying to steal the Rill ship.
16th May '16 4:28:03 AM Morgenthaler
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* The GDI and the Brotherhood of Nod of ''CommandAndConquerTiberium''.

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* The GDI and the Brotherhood of Nod of ''CommandAndConquerTiberium''.''VideoGame/CommandAndConquerTiberium''.
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