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10th Sep '17 11:26:21 AM nombretomado
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* ''BastardOperatorFromHell'' had [[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/28/bofh_episode_33/ an episode]] where [[BastardUnderstudy PFY]] discovered that one colleague was a Mac User -- and he seemed like a normal person. For years he'd been living a lie! So, that's the only solution. And then PFY himself turned out to be [[spoiler:an Archimedes user]] -- and promptly got zapped and strapped to a wheely chair by caring BOFH.

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* ''BastardOperatorFromHell'' ''Literature/BastardOperatorFromHell'' had [[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/09/28/bofh_episode_33/ an episode]] where [[BastardUnderstudy PFY]] discovered that one colleague was a Mac User -- and he seemed like a normal person. For years he'd been living a lie! So, that's the only solution. And then PFY himself turned out to be [[spoiler:an Archimedes user]] -- and promptly got zapped and strapped to a wheely chair by caring BOFH.
30th Aug '17 3:36:08 PM thatother1dude
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* Hank had a problem with this in ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill''. His niece AND wife had been tricked into joining a high school sorority that was into BrainWashing it's members. Hank saved the day with [[spoiler:meat]].

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* Hank had a problem with this in ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill''. His niece AND wife had been ''WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill'': Luanne and Peggy get tricked into joining a high school sorority that was into BrainWashing it's its members. Hank saved the day with [[spoiler:meat]].by [[spoiler:barbecuing meat within smelling distanct, because the cult's main method was depriving people of protein]].



** When Homer & family joined the Movementarians cult, he was rinsed with one drop of beer, and Bart, Lisa & Maggie were converted back to normal by the promise of hoverbikes.
*** In the same episode, Groundskeeper Willie attempts to deprogram Homer shortly before he's reintroduced to beer, and becomes accidentally programmed into joining the Movementarians himself in the process.
** In another episode, Bart went to live with Mr. Burns, so Homer and Marge hire a man to abduct Bart and deprogram him. Then it turns out that he grabbed [[ChewToy Hans Moleman]] instead, who now believes himself to be Bart. Homer wants to keep him (partly because kissing him is like kissing a peanut), but Marge ends the episode with "Homer, I want that ''thing'' out of my house."

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** When Homer & family joined the Movementarians cult, he was rinsed with one drop of beer, and Bart, Lisa & Maggie were converted back to normal by the [[TheCakeIsALie false]] promise of hoverbikes.
*** In the same episode,
hoverbikes. Groundskeeper Willie attempts to deprogram Homer shortly before he's reintroduced to beer, and becomes accidentally programmed into joining the Movementarians himself in the process.
** In another episode, "Burns' Heir", Bart went to live with Mr. Burns, so Homer and Marge hire a man to abduct Bart and deprogram him. Then it turns out that he grabbed [[ChewToy Hans Moleman]] instead, who now believes himself to be Bart. Homer wants to keep him (partly because kissing him is like kissing a peanut), but Marge ends the episode with "Homer, I want that ''thing'' out of my house."
16th Jul '17 8:05:21 AM NightShade96
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* ''[[https://youtu.be/94rbiQyjYCU Can Ellen Be Saved]] from 1974 has John Saxon as a heroic deprogrammer hired by LeslieNielsen and Louise Fletcher to kidnap their teenage daughter (Katherine Cannon) from The Children Of Jesus and its seductive leader, played by Michael Parks.

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* ''[[https://youtu.be/94rbiQyjYCU Can Ellen Be Saved]] from 1974 has John Saxon as a heroic deprogrammer hired by LeslieNielsen Creator/LeslieNielsen and Louise Fletcher to kidnap their teenage daughter (Katherine Cannon) from The Children Of Jesus and its seductive leader, played by Michael Parks.
5th Apr '17 8:16:15 PM Shinra
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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'''s [[StrategyGuide official mission handbook]], there is a section at the beginning of the game profiling all the major characters, complete with stats and a biography. For [[MasterOfDisguise Decoy Octupus's]] entry, it notes at the end that "The stress and combination of getting into character lead to Decoy Octopus becoming confused and [[BecomingTheMask almost completely changing into the person he mimics]] In order to protect himself, every time he disguises himself as someone else, he asks the military for an extensive mental deprogramming afterwards." Based on the tone, it gives the impression that this sort of thing happens on a regular or reoccurring basis.

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* In ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid'''s [[StrategyGuide official mission handbook]], there is a section at the beginning of the game profiling all the major characters, complete with stats and a biography. For [[MasterOfDisguise Decoy Octupus's]] entry, it notes at the end that that, "The stress and combination of getting into character lead to Decoy Octopus becoming confused and [[BecomingTheMask almost completely changing into the person he mimics]] mimics]]. In order to protect himself, every time he disguises himself as someone else, he asks the military for an extensive mental deprogramming afterwards." Based on the tone, it gives the impression that this sort of thing happens to him on a regular or reoccurring basis.
21st Mar '17 1:09:03 PM CaptEquinox
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* Ondi Timoner's award-winning documentary ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqPjsAzLTBQ Join Us]]'' follows several families who were entrapped by [[http://religiouscultsinfo.com/2011/05/update-raimund-melz-mountain-rock-church-pictures/ Mountain Rock Church]] in Anderson, SC. ("I thought I was joining a ''church!''") Now trying to break away, they take workshops at the [[http://www.wellspringretreat.org Wellspring Retreat]]. This is modern deprogramming, with the choice made by disillusioned or questioning members.
21st Mar '17 1:00:16 PM CaptEquinox
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* ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BpgX_vl5tQ The Deprogramming of Aaron]]'' is a 1989 CBS ''48 Hours'' documentary featuring the methods used at that time. In this case, 14-year-old Aaron felt a strict Christian church[[note]]Potter's House -- still very much around in 2017[[/note]] was helping him get off drugs, and wanted to continue as a member after his mother had left.
1st Mar '17 1:49:02 PM CaptEquinox
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In RealLife, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprogramming deprogramming]] is the process of counseling members of new or controversial religions -- with or without their consent -- to abandon their belief system. In the 1970s, responding to the increasing number of such faiths, deprogramming became a form of programming in and of itself with deprogrammers resorting to questionable, violent and often cruel lengths to do their job. Most people today think of deprogramming as more akin to therapy and "exit counseling" in that it's geared toward former members trying to leave a {{Cult}} or overly controlling situation. Today's deprogrammers try to help the person come to terms with what's happened, not forcibly change their mind. While fiction may follow this route, it's also likelier to be complemented with a good old round of EpiphanyTherapy, a BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind, "sunbathing" under a CareBearStare, and [[EasyAmnesia a quick blow to the head]] ([[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan in one form or another)]].

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In RealLife, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprogramming deprogramming]] is the process of counseling members of new or controversial religions -- with or without their consent -- to abandon their belief system. In the 1970s, responding to the increasing number of such faiths, deprogramming became a form of programming in and of itself with deprogrammers resorting to questionable, violent and often cruel lengths to do their job.

Most people today think of deprogramming as more akin to therapy and "exit counseling" in that it's geared toward former members trying to leave a {{Cult}} or overly controlling situation. Today's deprogrammers try to help the person come to terms with what's happened, not forcibly change their mind. While fiction may follow this route, it's also likelier to be complemented with a good old round of EpiphanyTherapy, a BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind, "sunbathing" under a CareBearStare, and [[EasyAmnesia a quick blow to the head]] ([[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan in one form or another)]].
another)]]. [[http://www.icsahome.com/articles/persistence-of--deprogramming--stereotypes-in-film Joe Szimhart]], a real deprogrammer, advises film and TV creators on accurate portrayals.



* ''[[https://youtu.be/94rbiQyjYCU Can Ellen Be Saved]] from 1974 has John Saxon as a heroic deprogrammer hired by LeslieNielsen and Louise Fletcher to kidnap their teenage daughter (Katherine Cannon) from The Children Of Jesus and its seductive leader, played by Michael Parks.



* ''Series/ThePath'' has a good old fashioned kidnapping right off a public road. Sean, a relatively new Meyerist, is tricked into his parents' car with a counselor in the back seat, saying they're going to help him and his pregnant wife "get out" of the community.

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* ''Series/ThePath'' is a 2017 show that has a good old fashioned kidnapping right off a public road. road, right out of the 1970s.[[note]]Somewhat appropriate, in that many aspects of Meyerism haven't changed since the '70s.[[/note]] Sean, a relatively new Meyerist, is tricked into his parents' car with a counselor in the back seat, saying they're going to help him and his pregnant wife "get out" of the community.



* This is supposed to help victims of StockholmSyndrome and indoctrination (such as with ChildSoldiers or members of {{Cult}}s) become free from the psychological grip of their tormentors. Originally, deprogrammings tended to involve kidnapping, and confinement, as well as violence and other types of psychological abuses (including in the worst cases, rape), which is why many detractors of the technique would say that it is really just ''[[HeWhoFightsMonsters reverse]]'' brainwashing. However, after the public got wind of those practices through various court cases (one of which involved the attempted deprogramming of a Catholic nun), and got upset, those types of deprogrammings have become less common (although still done in some countries).
** Since the validity of true brainwashing has largely been debunked, and such extreme measures are often seen as doing more harm than good, modern deprogrammings, more aptly called "exit counseling", rely on a lot of therapy and time, and the after-effects may take years to be resolved, if ever.

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* This is supposed to help victims of StockholmSyndrome and indoctrination (such as with ChildSoldiers or members of {{Cult}}s) become free from the psychological grip of their tormentors. Originally, deprogrammings tended to involve kidnapping, kidnapping and confinement, as well as violence and other types of psychological abuses (including in the worst cases, rape), which is why many detractors of the technique would say that it is really just ''[[HeWhoFightsMonsters reverse]]'' brainwashing. However, after the public got wind of those practices through various court cases (one of which involved the attempted deprogramming of a Catholic nun), and got upset, those types of deprogrammings have become less common (although still done in some countries).
** Since the validity of true brainwashing has largely been debunked, and such extreme measures are often seen as doing more harm than good, modern deprogrammings, more aptly called "exit counseling", rely on a lot of therapy and time, and the after-effects may take years to be resolved, if ever. They usually serve ex-members trying to break away from a faith that is harming them. The [[http://www.wellspringretreat.com Wellspring Retreat]] is an example.
1st Mar '17 1:17:53 PM CaptEquinox
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In real life, deprogrammers resorted to questionable, and often cruel lengths to do their job. What most people think of with deprogramming is more akin to therapy and "exit counseling" in that it attempts to help the person come to terms with what's happened, not forcibly change their mind. While fiction may follow this route, it's also likelier to be complemented with a good old round of EpiphanyTherapy, a BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind, "sunbathing" under a CareBearStare, and [[EasyAmnesia a quick blow to the head]] ([[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan in one form or another)]].

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In real life, RealLife, [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deprogramming deprogramming]] is the process of counseling members of new or controversial religions -- with or without their consent -- to abandon their belief system. In the 1970s, responding to the increasing number of such faiths, deprogramming became a form of programming in and of itself with deprogrammers resorted resorting to questionable, violent and often cruel lengths to do their job. What most Most people today think of with deprogramming is as more akin to therapy and "exit counseling" in that it attempts it's geared toward former members trying to leave a {{Cult}} or overly controlling situation. Today's deprogrammers try to help the person come to terms with what's happened, not forcibly change their mind. While fiction may follow this route, it's also likelier to be complemented with a good old round of EpiphanyTherapy, a BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind, "sunbathing" under a CareBearStare, and [[EasyAmnesia a quick blow to the head]] ([[GetAHoldOfYourselfMan in one form or another)]].


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* ''Series/ThePath'' has a good old fashioned kidnapping right off a public road. Sean, a relatively new Meyerist, is tricked into his parents' car with a counselor in the back seat, saying they're going to help him and his pregnant wife "get out" of the community.
20th Jan '17 8:53:17 PM Katsuhagi
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* In ''[[{{Film/TheAvengers2012}} The Avengers]]'', Black Widow mentions that Hawkeye was in charge of deprogramming her.

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* In ''[[{{Film/TheAvengers2012}} The Avengers]]'', Black Widow mentions that Hawkeye was in charge of deprogramming her. She later returns the favor by helping him break free of Loki's brainwashing.
20th Jan '17 8:52:13 PM Katsuhagi
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* In ''[[{{Film/TheAvengers2012}} The Avengers]]'', Black Widow mentions that Hawkeye was in charge of deprogramming her.
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