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3rd Feb '17 5:07:59 PM Dravencour
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Deal With The Devil plots can overlap with WhatAnIdiot. Some writers try to defend the Faust by [[LeonineContract having the Mephistopheles make the offer when the victim has no time to think]] (e.g., offering to save him from the DeathTrap in return for something nasty) or by making the contract so long, complex and filled with Latin-esque legal jargon no one will ReadTheFinePrint [[SevenDeadlySins (Sloth is a very undervalued sin)]]. Also expect ExactWords and YouDidntAsk to be employed against the Faust.

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Deal With The Devil plots can overlap with WhatAnIdiot. WhatAnIdiot, as smart and rational people know to stay well the hell away from deals like these. Some writers try to defend the Faust by [[LeonineContract having turning the deal into a LeonineContract - either the deal was made under some kind of duress, or the Mephistopheles make made the offer when the victim has had no time to think]] think (e.g., offering to save him from the DeathTrap in return for something nasty) or by making nasty). Others make the contract so long, complex and filled with Latin-esque legal jargon that no one will ReadTheFinePrint [[SevenDeadlySins (Sloth is a very undervalued sin)]]. Also expect ExactWords and YouDidntAsk to be employed against the Faust.
3rd Feb '17 5:00:46 PM Dravencour
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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But whatever the service, whatever the offer, when making this kind of deal, '''nothing comes without a price.''' This price can be anything -- the Faust's soul, their conscience, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent]] -- but is calculated to bring about the Faust's total ruin when it is paid.

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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But whatever the service, whatever the offer, when making this kind of deal, '''nothing comes without a price.''' This price can be anything -- the Faust's soul, their conscience, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent]] -- but is calculated to bring about whatever the Faust's total ruin price, it's something that will render the Faust a lot worse off when it is paid.
paid, if not bring them to complete ruin.
12th Jan '17 10:39:14 AM Hertzyscowicz
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Of course, the devil ''has'' been in this business since day seven. Therefore, the only way the villain of the piece can expect to get out of the "accounts receivable" column is by getting moved into the "owner's equity" column.



Compare BargainWithHeaven, the an [[InvertedTrope Inversion]] of this trope largely [[ForgottenTrope forgotten]] in the mainstream, but still very much in use in some contexts. Compare also ReasoningWithGod. For the occasions when the Devil comes out ''behind'', see DidYouJustScamCthulhu.

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Compare BargainWithHeaven, the an [[InvertedTrope Inversion]] of this trope largely [[ForgottenTrope forgotten]] in the mainstream, but still very much in use in some contexts. Compare also ReasoningWithGod. For the occasions when the Devil comes out ''behind'', see DidYouJustScamCthulhu.
3rd Nov '16 11:38:47 AM Monolaf317
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25th Oct '16 7:08:52 AM Dravencour
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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But whatever the service, whatever the offer, when making this kind of deal, '''there is always a price.''' This price can be anything -- their soul, their conscience, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent]] -- but is calculated to bring about the Faust's total ruin when it is paid.

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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But whatever the service, whatever the offer, when making this kind of deal, '''there is always '''nothing comes without a price.''' This price can be anything -- their the Faust's soul, their conscience, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent]] -- but is calculated to bring about the Faust's total ruin when it is paid.
25th Oct '16 7:07:39 AM Dravencour
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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But whatever the service, whatever the offer, when making this kind of deal, nothing comes without a price. The price can be anything -- their soul, their conscience, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent]] -- but is calculated to bring about the Faust's total ruin when it is paid.

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This trope includes both literal {{Magically Binding Contract}}s with a literal devil, and crooked deals between any corrupt exploiter (the Mephistopheles role) and a desperate pawn (the Faust role). The exploiter can be offering anything from some shiny new AppliedPhlebotinum to making a high school nerd [[InWithTheInCrowd popular]], to [[LeonineContract saving your life moments before death]]. Sometimes it has [[MadeOfTemptation no practical value whatsoever]]. But whatever the service, whatever the offer, when making this kind of deal, nothing comes without '''there is always a price. The price.''' This price can be anything -- their soul, their conscience, their firstborn, their loved ones, their voice, their eternal servitude, or even [[ForWantOfANail something that seems completely innocent]] -- but is calculated to bring about the Faust's total ruin when it is paid.
18th Sep '16 5:53:30 PM Dravencour
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* [[DrugsAreBad Drug addiction]]. Somebody offers you an offer of a great pleasurable experience beyond normal human sensations. It is also a great opportunity to capitalize in for profit. The catch is, once you are in, you can't get out and will probably suffer long-term psychological and/or physical deterioration if you dare to deviate from the "contract", or sometimes forced to do tricks for him, with death being the only apparent exit. There's a reason why "wiser" drug dealers don't get high on their own supply.

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* [[DrugsAreBad Drug addiction]]. Somebody offers you an offer of a great pleasurable experience beyond normal human sensations. It is also a great opportunity to capitalize in for profit. The catch is, once you are in, you can't get out and will probably suffer long-term psychological and/or physical deterioration if you dare to deviate from the "contract", or sometimes forced to do tricks for him, with death being the only apparent exit. There's a reason why "wiser" drug dealers don't [[GettingHighOnTheirOwnSupply get high on their own supply.supply]].
4th Sep '16 7:36:50 AM krimzonflygon2
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[[caption-width-right:350:Redefining soul music.]]

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[[caption-width-right:350:Redefining soul music.]]
[[caption-width-right:350:"Sign here, and here-DON'T READ THAT! Aaaand...here. Pleasure doing business with you...[[EvilLaugh heheheh]]..."]]
1st Sep '16 10:14:04 AM superboy313
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You know how it works. Want to be a [[{{Fiction 500}} millionaire]], TakeOverTheWorld, gain [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity Omnipotence]], or just to get back at that obnoxious JerkJock? Well travel down to [[AtTheCrossroads those crossroads]] and [[LouisCypher Mr. S]] will [[YourHeartsDesire guarantee your wildest dreams]], if you just sign on the dotted line with your own blood. This trope is OlderThanSteam, and does not even require the Abrahamic Devil; any {{trickster|s}} or evil deity [[EverybodyHatesHades roughly equivalent]] to {{Satan}} can be used. It reached its current version in the 16th-century legend of {{Faust}} selling his soul to Mephistopheles (who technically isn't ''quite'' exactly Satan or Lucifer, but still a high-ranking demon).

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You know how it works. Want to be a [[{{Fiction 500}} millionaire]], TakeOverTheWorld, gain [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity Omnipotence]], infinite power]], or just to get back at that obnoxious JerkJock? Well travel down to [[AtTheCrossroads those crossroads]] and [[LouisCypher Mr. S]] will [[YourHeartsDesire guarantee your wildest dreams]], if you just sign on the dotted line with your own blood. This trope is OlderThanSteam, and does not even require the Abrahamic Devil; any {{trickster|s}} or evil deity [[EverybodyHatesHades roughly equivalent]] to {{Satan}} can be used. It reached its current version in the 16th-century legend of {{Faust}} selling his soul to Mephistopheles (who technically isn't ''quite'' exactly Satan or Lucifer, but still a high-ranking demon).
1st Sep '16 10:13:21 AM superboy313
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You know how it works. Want to be a [[{{Fiction 500}} trillionaire]], TakeOverTheWorld, gain [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow Omniscience]], or just to get back at that obnoxious JerkJock? Well travel down to [[AtTheCrossroads those crossroads]] and [[LouisCypher Mr. S]] will [[YourHeartsDesire guarantee your wildest dreams]], if you just sign on the dotted line with your own blood. This trope is OlderThanSteam, and does not even require the Abrahamic Devil; any {{trickster|s}} or evil deity [[EverybodyHatesHades roughly equivalent]] to {{Satan}} can be used. It reached its current version in the 16th-century legend of {{Faust}} selling his soul to Mephistopheles (who technically isn't ''quite'' exactly Satan or Lucifer, but still a high-ranking demon).

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You know how it works. Want to be a [[{{Fiction 500}} trillionaire]], millionaire]], TakeOverTheWorld, gain [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow Omniscience]], [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity Omnipotence]], or just to get back at that obnoxious JerkJock? Well travel down to [[AtTheCrossroads those crossroads]] and [[LouisCypher Mr. S]] will [[YourHeartsDesire guarantee your wildest dreams]], if you just sign on the dotted line with your own blood. This trope is OlderThanSteam, and does not even require the Abrahamic Devil; any {{trickster|s}} or evil deity [[EverybodyHatesHades roughly equivalent]] to {{Satan}} can be used. It reached its current version in the 16th-century legend of {{Faust}} selling his soul to Mephistopheles (who technically isn't ''quite'' exactly Satan or Lucifer, but still a high-ranking demon).
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