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13th Aug '17 10:30:25 AM Abodos
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Opposite of LighterAndSofter, YoungerAndHipper, DenserAndWackier and RevisitingTheRoots. Often found alongside BloodierAndGorier, HotterAndSexier, ObligatorySwearing, SequelDifficultySpike and RealIsBrown. Often a by-product of the franchise growing [[SequelEscalation bigger and more epic]].

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Opposite of LighterAndSofter, YoungerAndHipper, DenserAndWackier and RevisitingTheRoots. Often found alongside BloodierAndGorier, HotterAndSexier, ObligatorySwearing, SequelDifficultySpike SequelDifficultySpike, SequelLogoInRuins, and RealIsBrown. Often a by-product of the franchise growing [[SequelEscalation bigger and more epic]].
7th Aug '17 6:47:16 PM bt8257
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[[caption-width-right:250:[-IT'S SMURFING AWESOME-]!]]

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[[caption-width-right:250:[-IT'S [[caption-width-right:250:IT'S SMURFING AWESOME-]!]]
AWESOME!]]



In fact this is often the purpose of a Darker And Edgier turn. Just as a LighterAndSofter tone is typically part of an attempt to bring a fictional world to children or to younger children, a "darker" tone is often intended to make a setting appeal to older children or adults. But unlike its opposite, a Darker And Edgier shift is often intended not to reach a new audience, but rather to keep an existing audience as it grows up. It can also be a result of child fans growing up, RunningTheAsylum as {{Promoted Fanboy}}s, and continuing to think of the setting as something aimed at themselves and their peers instead of the original target age group.


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In fact this is often the purpose of a Darker And and Edgier turn. Just as a LighterAndSofter tone is typically part of an attempt to bring a fictional world to children or to younger children, a "darker" tone is often intended to make a setting appeal to older children or adults. But unlike its opposite, a Darker And Edgier shift is often intended not to reach a new audience, but rather to keep an existing audience as it grows up. It can also be a result of child fans growing up, RunningTheAsylum as {{Promoted Fanboy}}s, and continuing to think of the setting as something aimed at themselves and their peers instead of the original target age group.

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As with [[LighterAndSofter Lighter and Softer]] this practice tends to go better if the change was planned in advance to keep the tone from shifting too abruptly.

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As with [[LighterAndSofter Lighter and Softer]] LighterAndSofter, this practice tends to go better if the change was planned in advance to keep the tone from shifting too abruptly.
8th Jul '17 4:17:43 PM Mdumas43073
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-->-- '''The Riddler''', "[[Creator/NeilGaiman When Is A Door]]"

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-->-- '''The Riddler''', "[[Creator/NeilGaiman When Is A a Door]]"
8th Jul '17 4:17:10 PM Mdumas43073
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A ToneShift that seeks to make a work of fiction more [[SlidingScaleOfSillinessVersusSeriousness serious]], [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism cynical]] or [[SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty gritty]]. In theory, archetypes which we are usually accustomed to acting in a more noble setting will have to act in one where they must think and act grimly in order to make progress, [[{{Deconstruction}} thus forcing re-examination of the tropes involved]] or the ability to use new tropes and expand the setting making for different sorts of characters and stories. In practice however, writers can be too lazy to make use of what most of those words mean and ending up randomly "spicing up" a work with [[FamilyUnfriendlyViolence gratuitous gore]], [[ClusterFBomb cursing]], and {{sex|IsCool}} to make the work "more adult" - often overdoing it in the process. This is not to be confused with tough love.

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A ToneShift that seeks to make a work of fiction more [[SlidingScaleOfSillinessVersusSeriousness serious]], [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism cynical]] or [[SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty gritty]]. gritty]].

In theory, this means that archetypes which we are usually accustomed to acting in a more noble setting will have to act in one where they must think and act grimly in order to make progress, [[{{Deconstruction}} thus forcing re-examination of the tropes involved]] or the ability to use new tropes and expand the setting making for different sorts of characters and stories. In practice practice, however, writers can be too lazy to make use of what most of those words mean and ending up randomly "spicing up" a work with [[FamilyUnfriendlyViolence gratuitous gore]], [[ClusterFBomb cursing]], and {{sex|IsCool}} to make the work "more adult" - more "adult" -- often overdoing it in the process. This is not to be confused with tough love.
ToughLove.
18th Jun '17 2:58:20 AM Silverblade2
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-> "You look around these days...it's all different. It's all changed. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker's ''killing'' people, for God's sake! Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?"

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-> "You look around these days...it's all different. It's all changed. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker's ComicBook/TheJoker's ''killing'' people, for God's sake! Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?"
13th May '17 6:08:48 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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When a show uses this trope as a tagline, you can expect a mixture of: [[ColdBloodedTorture awful things]] [[BreakTheCutie happening to the characters]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast twisted backstories]] [[DeusAngstMachina giving them a reason to angst]], [[BlackAndGrayMorality good]] and [[GreyAndGrayMorality bad becoming less obvious]],and the [[CrapsaccharineWorld setting becoming]] [[CrapsackWorld much bleaker]].

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When a show uses this trope as a tagline, you can expect a mixture of: [[ColdBloodedTorture awful things]] [[BreakTheCutie happening to the characters]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast twisted backstories]] [[DeusAngstMachina giving them a reason to angst]], [[BlackAndGrayMorality good]] and [[GreyAndGrayMorality bad becoming less obvious]],and obvious]], and the [[CrapsaccharineWorld setting becoming]] [[CrapsackWorld much bleaker]].
25th Apr '17 1:05:23 AM 4444jdm
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Opposite of LighterAndSofter, YoungerAndHipper, DenserAndWackier and RevisitingTheRoots. Often found alongside BloodierAndGorier, HotterAndSexier, ObligatorySwearing and RealIsBrown. Often a by-product of the franchise growing [[SequelEscalation bigger and more epic]].

Compare {{Grimmification}} and FracturedFairyTale for when this is done with fairy tales and AmericanKirbyIsHardcore for when this is done with boxart. Also compare SequelDifficultySpike. See also SugarApocalypse, and CerebusSyndrome. For when it applies to a single episode, see UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode.

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Opposite of LighterAndSofter, YoungerAndHipper, DenserAndWackier and RevisitingTheRoots. Often found alongside BloodierAndGorier, HotterAndSexier, ObligatorySwearing ObligatorySwearing, SequelDifficultySpike and RealIsBrown. Often a by-product of the franchise growing [[SequelEscalation bigger and more epic]].

Compare {{Grimmification}} and FracturedFairyTale for when this is done with fairy tales and AmericanKirbyIsHardcore for when this is done with boxart. Also compare SequelDifficultySpike. See also SugarApocalypse, and CerebusSyndrome. For when it applies to a single episode, see UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode.
25th Apr '17 1:03:51 AM 4444jdm
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Compare {{Grimmification}} and FracturedFairyTale for when this is done with fairy tales and AmericanKirbyIsHardcore for when this is done with boxart. See also SugarApocalypse, and CerebusSyndrome. For when it applies to a single episode, see UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode.

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Compare {{Grimmification}} and FracturedFairyTale for when this is done with fairy tales and AmericanKirbyIsHardcore for when this is done with boxart. Also compare SequelDifficultySpike. See also SugarApocalypse, and CerebusSyndrome. For when it applies to a single episode, see UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode.
17th Feb '17 8:18:03 PM bt8257
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-> ''"You look around these days...it's all different. It's all changed. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker's ''killing'' people, for God's sake! Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?"''

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-> ''"You "You look around these days...it's all different. It's all changed. SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker's ''killing'' people, for God's sake! Did I miss something? Was I away when they changed the rules?"''rules?"



When a show uses this trope as a tagline, you can expect a mixture of: [[ColdBloodedTorture awful things]] [[BreakTheCutie happening to the characters]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast twisted backstories]] [[DeusAngstMachina giving them a reason to angst]], [[BlackAndGrayMorality good]] and [[GreyAndGreyMorality bad becoming less obvious]],and the [[CrapsaccharineWorld setting becoming]] [[CrapsackWorld much bleaker]].

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When a show uses this trope as a tagline, you can expect a mixture of: [[ColdBloodedTorture awful things]] [[BreakTheCutie happening to the characters]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast twisted backstories]] [[DeusAngstMachina giving them a reason to angst]], [[BlackAndGrayMorality good]] and [[GreyAndGreyMorality [[GreyAndGrayMorality bad becoming less obvious]],and the [[CrapsaccharineWorld setting becoming]] [[CrapsackWorld much bleaker]].
29th Nov '16 7:25:43 AM WhatArtThee
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Compare {{Grimmification}} and FracturedFairyTale for when this is done with fairy tales and AmericanKirbyIsHardcore for when this is done with boxart. See also SugarApocalypse, and CerebusSyndrome.

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Compare {{Grimmification}} and FracturedFairyTale for when this is done with fairy tales and AmericanKirbyIsHardcore for when this is done with boxart. See also SugarApocalypse, and CerebusSyndrome. For when it applies to a single episode, see UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode.
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