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29th Nov '16 7:25:43 AM WhatArtThee
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Compare {{Grimmification}} and FracturedFairyTale for when this is done with fairy tales and AmericanKirbyIsHardcore for when this is done with boxart. See also SugarApocalypse, and CerebusSyndrome.

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Compare {{Grimmification}} and FracturedFairyTale for when this is done with fairy tales and AmericanKirbyIsHardcore for when this is done with boxart. See also SugarApocalypse, and CerebusSyndrome. For when it applies to a single episode, see UnexpectedlyDarkEpisode.
27th Nov '16 11:24:58 AM marcoasalazarm
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The excessive version is often known as "Grimdark" (one word), derived from the tagline of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. ("In the grim darkness of the far future, there is ''only war.''") Sometimes justified with the phrase "SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids". Usually shows up in DarkFic. If a pre-existing show undergoes a {{Retool}} under the guise of making things Darker And Edgier, expect JumpingTheShark, especially if there was ExecutiveMeddling involved. Blog/TheUnitedFederationOfCharles wrote an essay called, [[http://unitedfederationofcharles.blogspot.com/2015/07/what-is-grimdark.html What is Grimdark?]] which explains some of the history of the subject. "Grimderp" has in many parts of the Net become popular as a term for Grimdark that goes so far that it becomes {{Narm}}.

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The excessive version is often known as "Grimdark" (one word), derived from the tagline of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. ("In the grim darkness of the far future, there is ''only war.''") Sometimes justified with the phrase "SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids". Usually shows up in DarkFic. If a pre-existing show undergoes a {{Retool}} under the guise of making things Darker And Edgier, expect JumpingTheShark, especially if there was ExecutiveMeddling involved. Blog/TheUnitedFederationOfCharles wrote an essay called, [[http://unitedfederationofcharles.blogspot.com/2015/07/what-is-grimdark.html What is Grimdark?]] which explains some of the history of the subject. "Grimderp" has in many parts of the Net become popular as a term for Grimdark that goes so far that it becomes {{Narm}}.
{{Narm}}. Future writers beware! Using this trope without knowing ''when'' to stop is a quick road to DarknessInducedAudienceApathy.
28th Sep '16 8:13:37 PM DrOO7
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* DarkerAndEdgier/{{Theatre}}
14th Jun '16 3:49:24 PM MarkWilder
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When a show uses this trope as a tagline, you can expect a mixture of: [[ColdBloodedTorture awful things]] [[BreakTheCutie happening to the characters]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast twisted backstories]] [[DeusAngstMachina giving them a reason to angst]], [[BlackAndGrayMorality good]] and [[GreyAndGreyMorality bad becoming less obvious]],and the [[CrapsacchirineWorld setting becoming]] [[CrapsackWorld much bleaker]].

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When a show uses this trope as a tagline, you can expect a mixture of: [[ColdBloodedTorture awful things]] [[BreakTheCutie happening to the characters]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast twisted backstories]] [[DeusAngstMachina giving them a reason to angst]], [[BlackAndGrayMorality good]] and [[GreyAndGreyMorality bad becoming less obvious]],and the [[CrapsacchirineWorld [[CrapsaccharineWorld setting becoming]] [[CrapsackWorld much bleaker]].
6th Jun '16 7:07:52 PM MelodicPorcupine
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When a show uses this trope as a tagline, you can expect a mixture of: [[ColdBloodedTorture awful things]] [[BreakTheCutie happening to the characters]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast twisted backstories]] [[DeusAngstMachina giving them a reason to angst]], [[BlackAndGrayMorality good]] and [[GreyAndGreyMorality bad becoming less obvious]],and the [[WorldHalfEmpty setting becoming]] [[CrapsackWorld much bleaker]].

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When a show uses this trope as a tagline, you can expect a mixture of: [[ColdBloodedTorture awful things]] [[BreakTheCutie happening to the characters]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast twisted backstories]] [[DeusAngstMachina giving them a reason to angst]], [[BlackAndGrayMorality good]] and [[GreyAndGreyMorality bad becoming less obvious]],and the [[WorldHalfEmpty [[CrapsacchirineWorld setting becoming]] [[CrapsackWorld much bleaker]].
24th May '16 8:44:59 PM Bicorn
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The excessive version is often known as "Grimdark" (one word), derived from the tagline of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. ("In the grim darkness of the far future, there is ''only war.''") Sometimes justified with the phrase "SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids". Usually shows up in DarkFic. If a pre-existing show undergoes a {{Retool}} under the guise of making things Darker And Edgier, expect JumpingTheShark, especially if there was ExecutiveMeddling involved. Blog/TheUnitedFederationOfCharles wrote an essay called, [[http://unitedfederationofcharles.blogspot.com/2015/07/what-is-grimdark.html What is Grimdark?]] which explains some of the history of the subject.

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The excessive version is often known as "Grimdark" (one word), derived from the tagline of ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}}''. ("In the grim darkness of the far future, there is ''only war.''") Sometimes justified with the phrase "SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids". Usually shows up in DarkFic. If a pre-existing show undergoes a {{Retool}} under the guise of making things Darker And Edgier, expect JumpingTheShark, especially if there was ExecutiveMeddling involved. Blog/TheUnitedFederationOfCharles wrote an essay called, [[http://unitedfederationofcharles.blogspot.com/2015/07/what-is-grimdark.html What is Grimdark?]] which explains some of the history of the subject.
subject. "Grimderp" has in many parts of the Net become popular as a term for Grimdark that goes so far that it becomes {{Narm}}.
3rd Apr '16 9:28:48 PM AdamNY
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A ToneShift that seeks to make a work of fiction more [[SlidingScaleOfSillinessVersusSeriousness serious]], [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism cynical]] or [[SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty gritty]]. In theory, archetypes which we are usually accustomed to acting in a more noble setting will have to act in one where they must think and act grimly in order to make progress, [[{{Deconstruction}} thus forcing re-examination of the tropes involved]] or the ability to use new tropes and expand the setting making for different sorts of characters and stories. In practice however, writers can be too lazy to make use of what most of those words mean and ending up randomly "spicing up" a work with [[FamilyUnfriendlyViolence gratuitous gore]], [[ClusterFBomb cursing]], and {{sex|IsCool}} to make the work "more adult" - often overdoing it in the process.

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A ToneShift that seeks to make a work of fiction more [[SlidingScaleOfSillinessVersusSeriousness serious]], [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism cynical]] or [[SlidingScaleOfShinyVersusGritty gritty]]. In theory, archetypes which we are usually accustomed to acting in a more noble setting will have to act in one where they must think and act grimly in order to make progress, [[{{Deconstruction}} thus forcing re-examination of the tropes involved]] or the ability to use new tropes and expand the setting making for different sorts of characters and stories. In practice however, writers can be too lazy to make use of what most of those words mean and ending up randomly "spicing up" a work with [[FamilyUnfriendlyViolence gratuitous gore]], [[ClusterFBomb cursing]], and {{sex|IsCool}} to make the work "more adult" - often overdoing it in the process.
process. This is not to be confused with tough love.
26th Jan '16 3:59:29 PM Josef5678
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As one could predict, this is fairly easy to screw up and poor use of these tropes may just result in DarknessInducedAudienceApathy if the setting gets too depressing or {{Narm}} if the edginess becomes just silly. [[TropesAreTools This doesn't make it a bad trope though]]-- when this is used subtly such as in the HarryPotter series it can create the effect of a series growing up with its audience.

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As one could predict, this is fairly easy to screw up and poor use of these tropes may just result in DarknessInducedAudienceApathy if the setting gets too depressing or {{Narm}} if the edginess becomes just silly. [[TropesAreTools This doesn't make it a bad trope though]]-- when this is used subtly such as in the HarryPotter ''Literature/HarryPotter'' series it can create the effect of a series growing up with its audience.
20th Dec '15 7:58:20 PM nombretomado
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This trope became extremely popular in ComicBooks as a rebellion against the SilverAge but also led to more than a decade of clumsy attempts to show that comics are "[[MaturityIsSeriousBusiness not kid stuff anymore]]." See UsefulNotes/{{the Bronze Age|OfComicBooks}}, UsefulNotes/{{the Dark Age|OfComicBooks}}, and NinetiesAntiHero for more details about how this worked.

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This trope became extremely popular in ComicBooks as a rebellion against the SilverAge UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}} but also led to more than a decade of clumsy attempts to show that comics are "[[MaturityIsSeriousBusiness not kid stuff anymore]]." See UsefulNotes/{{the Bronze Age|OfComicBooks}}, UsefulNotes/{{the Dark Age|OfComicBooks}}, and NinetiesAntiHero for more details about how this worked.
21st Oct '15 12:02:17 AM RWDutton
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When a show uses this trope as a tagline, you can expect a mixture of: [[ColdBloodedTorture awful things]] [[BreakTheCutie happening to the characters]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast twisted backstories]] [[DeusAngstMachina giving them a reason to angst]], and the [[WorldHalfEmpty setting becoming]] [[CrapsackWorld much bleaker]].

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When a show uses this trope as a tagline, you can expect a mixture of: [[ColdBloodedTorture awful things]] [[BreakTheCutie happening to the characters]], [[DarkAndTroubledPast twisted backstories]] [[DeusAngstMachina giving them a reason to angst]], [[BlackAndGrayMorality good]] and [[GreyAndGreyMorality bad becoming less obvious]],and the [[WorldHalfEmpty setting becoming]] [[CrapsackWorld much bleaker]].
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