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* A variation on this trope is in ''AvatarTheLastAirbender'': Jeong Jeong, a Firebending master, deserted from the Fire Nation army, as he was disgusted with what Firebending had become. He acts as Aang's first master, giving him a lesson in the many ways Firebending can go wrong.

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* A variation on this trope is in ''AvatarTheLastAirbender'': ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'': Jeong Jeong, a Firebending master, deserted from the Fire Nation army, as he was disgusted with what Firebending had become. He acts as Aang's first master, giving him a lesson in the many ways Firebending can go wrong.
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* Averted in ''[[VorkosiganSaga The Warrior's Apprentice]]'' by {{Lois McMaster Bujold}} with Baz Jesek. He is never asked what he did or why he deserted and, despite interacting with active duty military personnel, is never forced back or faces any charges. Despite him deserting in the heat, which carries an automatic death sentence, the charges against him are eventually dismissed.

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* Averted in ''[[VorkosiganSaga The Warrior's Apprentice]]'' by {{Lois McMaster Bujold}} with Baz Jesek. He is never asked what he did or why he deserted and, despite interacting with active duty military personnel, is never forced back or faces any charges. Despite him deserting in the heat, which carries an automatic death sentence, the charges against him are eventually dismissed.dismissed - probably a result of spending a decade as part of a classified [=ImpSec=] unit that pulled off a number of very high-profile operations that the Barrayaran government had no official involvement in.
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* At the end of the first season of ''TransformersPrime'', [[spoiler: Starscream tires of his treatment in the Decepticons and attempts to join the Autobots; when that doesn't work out, he declares himself neutral, making him an enemy to both sides]].
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** The later includes [[spoiler:m Atton Rand]],although he does a [[PsychicStatic pretty good job of]] [[StepfordSmiler hiding it]] for most of the game.

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** The later includes [[spoiler:m Atton [[spoiler:Atton Rand]],although he does a [[PsychicStatic pretty good job of]] [[StepfordSmiler hiding it]] for most of the game.
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* From personal experience; deserters in peacetime in the UK's RAF were ignored. When they turned up again (they usually gave themselves up to the police), they were put in military prison for 'not turning up for work' (usually only a few days extra duties), then discharged from the RAF with loss of back pay and reported to the civilian police as deserters. UK police have wide discretionary powers, depending on how the deserter has behaved while 'out'. All of this was explained exhaustively to new recruits, some of whom desert immediately. I guess it rids the armed forces of the really stupid ones.

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* From personal experience; deserters in peacetime in the UK's RAF were ignored. When they turned up again (they usually gave themselves up to the police), they were put in military prison for 'not turning up for work' (usually only a few days extra duties), then discharged from the RAF with loss of back pay and reported to the civilian police as deserters. UK police have wide discretionary powers, depending on how the deserter has behaved while 'out'. All of this was explained exhaustively to new recruits, some of whom desert immediately. I guess it rids the armed forces of the really stupid unwilling ones.
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* In ''Series/QueenOfSwords'', Captain Grisham is an American deserter from from the War of 1812. However, the truly dangerous deserter is Krane, the man they tried to hang in Grisham's place.
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* In the original ''StarshipTroopers'' book, the government makes no effort to catch people who desert from Basic Training. Since the military forces are all volunteers, they figure there's no point, although some people decide they can't live with the guilt and eventually turn themselves in. If they do, they're just given 50 lashes and turned loose (with no prospect of citizenship, but no worse off than if they never enlisted at all). Nevertheless, one is caught and hanged because he raped and murdered a little girl, because the Mobile Infantry takes care of their own.

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* In the original ''StarshipTroopers'' ''Literature/StarshipTroopers'' book, the government makes no effort to catch people who desert from Basic Training. Since the military forces are all volunteers, they figure there's no point, although some people decide they can't live with the guilt and eventually turn themselves in. If they do, they're just given 50 lashes and turned loose (with no prospect of citizenship, but no worse off than if they never enlisted at all). Nevertheless, one is caught and hanged because he raped and murdered a little girl, because the Mobile Infantry takes care of their own.



** On the other hand, "Desertion in the face of the enemy" ''is'' a capital offense, as it is in many military forces today.

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** On the other hand, "Desertion "desertion in the face of the enemy" ''is'' a capital offense, as it is in many military forces today.
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There are a few sympathetic deserters out there, usually having [[MookFaceTurn left a villain's army]] which they had no choice about joining, but they are not this trope. The DangerousDeserter is hardened, desperate, and, well, ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin dangerous]]''.

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There are a few [[DefectorFromDecadence sympathetic deserters deserters]] out there, usually having [[MookFaceTurn left a villain's army]] which they had no choice about joining, but they are not this trope. The DangerousDeserter is hardened, desperate, and, well, ''[[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin dangerous]]''.
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* ''GoneWithTheWind'' had that Union deserter who[[spoiler:m Scarlett shot in the face]].

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* ''GoneWithTheWind'' had that Union deserter who[[spoiler:m who[[spoiler: Scarlett shot in the face]].
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* ''GoneWithTheWind'' had that Union deserter who[[spoiler:m Scarlet shot in the face]].

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* ''GoneWithTheWind'' had that Union deserter who[[spoiler:m Scarlet Scarlett shot in the face]].
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* You can encounter a few in FalloutNewVegas in Primm, attempting to start a protection racket and attacking you if try to turn them in. They're survivors from a outpost that was overrun by [[TheEmpire Caesar's Legion]], and think the [=NCR=] will be defeated by them soon.
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* One sidequest in ''DragonAge'' involves tracking down a trio of deserters from a mercenary group known as the Blackstone Irregulars, who stole valuable materials from the mercenary company. In a twist,t he mercenaries don't want to punish the deserters (though they don't care if you kill them) they just want their property returned. All three deserters attack the player immediately upon identifying who they represent, even if they're just trying to peacefully recover the supplies.

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* One sidequest in ''DragonAge'' involves tracking down a trio of deserters from a mercenary group known as the Blackstone Irregulars, who stole valuable materials from the mercenary company. In a twist,t he twist, the mercenaries don't want to punish the deserters (though they don't care if you kill them) they just want their property returned. All three deserters attack the player immediately upon identifying who they represent, even if they're just trying to peacefully recover the supplies.

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* One sidequest in ''DragonAge'' involves tracking down a trio of deserters from a mercenary group known as the Blackstone Irregulars, who stole valuable materials from the mercenary company. In a twist,t he mercenaries don't want to punish the deserters (though they don't care if you kill them) they just want their property returned. All three deserters attack the player immediately upon identifying who they represent, even if they're just trying to peacefully recover the supplies.
* A group of these appear early on in ''DragonAgeII'', having deserted the Ferelden army and fled to Kirkwall. They attack one of the guard posts when the officer in charge agrees to contact one of Hawke's relatives inside the city, thinking that this means Hawke will be let inside ahead of them.
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* In an issue of the ''Infinity Inc.'' comic, a Doctor Midnight (a black woman) is captured and [[AttemptedRape almost raped]] by a group of [[FishOutOfTemporalWater time-tossed]] deserters from the Confederate Army (it is made clear that they were already deserters before they got lost in time).

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* In an issue of the ''Infinity Inc.''InfinityInc.'' comic, a Doctor Midnight (a black woman) is captured and [[AttemptedRape almost raped]] by a group of [[FishOutOfTemporalWater time-tossed]] deserters from the Confederate Army (it is made clear that they were already deserters before they got lost in time).



* ''Rogue Trooper'' will help out his former comrades in the Southern Army when it suits him, but good luck trying to arrest him for desertion.

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* ''Rogue Trooper'' ''RogueTrooper'' will help out his former comrades in the Southern Army when it suits him, but good luck trying to arrest him for desertion.



* GoneWithTheWind had that Union deserter who[[spoiler:m Scarlet shot in the face]].

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* GoneWithTheWind ''GoneWithTheWind'' had that Union deserter who[[spoiler:m Scarlet shot in the face]].



* An small army of these crops up in at least of the TV version of {{Sharpe}}, made up from soldiers of all sides including Sharpe's nemesis Obadaiah Hakeswill.

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* An small army of these crops up in at least of the TV version of {{Sharpe}}, ''{{Sharpe}}'', made up from soldiers of all sides including Sharpe's nemesis Obadaiah Hakeswill.



* In {{Fable}} 3 deserters from [[TheCaligula Logan's]] army take the place of the previous game's bandits.

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* In {{Fable}} 3 ''{{Fable}} 3'' deserters from [[TheCaligula Logan's]] army take the place of the previous game's bandits.
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** The later includes [[spoilers:m Atton Rand,]] although he does a [[PsychicStatic pretty good job of]] [[StepfordSmiler hiding it]] for most of the game.

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** The later includes [[spoilers:m [[spoiler:m Atton Rand,]] although Rand]],although he does a [[PsychicStatic pretty good job of]] [[StepfordSmiler hiding it]] for most of the game.
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** The later includes [[spoilers: Atton Rand,]] although he does a [[PsychicStatic pretty good job of]] [[StepfordSmiler hiding it]] for most of the game.

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** The later includes [[spoilers: [[spoilers:m Atton Rand,]] although he does a [[PsychicStatic pretty good job of]] [[StepfordSmiler hiding it]] for most of the game.
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** The later includes [[spoilers:Atton Rand,]] although he does a [[PsychicStatic pretty good job of]] [[StepfordSmiler hiding it]] for most of the game.

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** The later includes [[spoilers:Atton [[spoilers: Atton Rand,]] although he does a [[PsychicStatic pretty good job of]] [[StepfordSmiler hiding it]] for most of the game.
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* Several of the hired guns in ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', especially the sequel, were deserters from one side or the other ([[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor sometimes more than one]]). Most are just PunchClockVillains but some, especially those who were former Sith officers, could be [[AxeCrazy downright sadistic]].

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* Several of the hired guns in ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', especially the sequel, were deserters from one side or the other ([[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor sometimes more than one]]). Most are just PunchClockVillains [[PunchClockVillain PunchClockVillains]] but some, especially those who were former Sith officers, Sith, could be [[AxeCrazy downright sadistic]].
** The later includes [[spoilers:Atton Rand,]] although he does a [[PsychicStatic pretty good job of]] [[StepfordSmiler hiding it]] for most of the game.
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* Several of the hired guns in ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'', especially the sequel, were deserters from one side or the other ([[HeelFaceRevolvingDoor sometimes more than one]]). Most are just PunchClockVillains but some, especially those who were former Sith officers, could be [[AxeCrazy downright sadistic]].
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* The Russian-soldiers-turned-looters-turned-SS-informers who provide Hannibal Lector with his [[Discontinuity controversial]] FreudianExcuse in ''HannibalRising''.

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* The Russian-soldiers-turned-looters-turned-SS-informers who provide Hannibal Lector with his [[Discontinuity [[{{Discontinuity}} controversial]] FreudianExcuse in ''HannibalRising''.
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* In {{Fable}} 3 deserters from [[TheCaligula Logan's]] army take the place of the previous game's bandits.
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* Used in ''[[VorkosiganSaga The Warrior's Apprentice]]'' by {{Lois McMaster Bujold}}.

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* Used Averted in ''[[VorkosiganSaga The Warrior's Apprentice]]'' by {{Lois McMaster Bujold}}.Bujold}} with Baz Jesek. He is never asked what he did or why he deserted and, despite interacting with active duty military personnel, is never forced back or faces any charges. Despite him deserting in the heat, which carries an automatic death sentence, the charges against him are eventually dismissed.
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* Used in ''Warrior's Apprentice'' by {{Lois McMaster Bujold}}.

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* Used in ''Warrior's Apprentice'' ''[[VorkosiganSaga The Warrior's Apprentice]]'' by {{Lois McMaster Bujold}}.
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** Also averted and totally deconstructed with septon Meribald. Wanting to live isn't a bad thing, you know.

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** Also averted and totally deconstructed with septon Meribald.[[spoiler:septon Meribald]]. Wanting to live isn't a bad thing, you know.
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** Also averted and totally deconstructed with septon Meribald. Wanting to live isn't a bad thing, you know.
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** Actually, they were Lithuanian [[LesCollaborateurs SS-collaborators]] from the start.
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*** Actually the same chapter mentions what appears to be Soul Society's equivalent of an honourable discharge [[http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.03/12/ on this page]]

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*** Actually the same chapter mentions what appears to be Soul Society's equivalent of an honourable discharge [[http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/315.03/12/ on this page]]

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* ''MountAndBlade'' has these in spades. From a technical point of view, they are very similar to regular groups of bandits, but are often far more numerous and better equipped. They can be a DemonicSpiders style threat early in the game, but become less intimidating after the player levels up considerably and creates his party.

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* ''MountAndBlade'' has these in spades. From a technical point of view, they are very similar to regular groups of bandits, but are often far more numerous and better equipped. They can be a DemonicSpiders style threat early in the game, but become less intimidating after the player levels up considerably and creates his party.
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* A variation on this trope is in ''AvatarTheLastAirbender'': Jeong Jeong, a Firebending master, deserted from the Fire Nation army, as he was disgusted with what Firebending had become. He acts as Aang's first master, giving him a lesson in the many ways Firebending can go wrong.
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* The Russian-soldiers-turned-looters-turned-SS-informers who provide Hannibal Lector with his [[Discontinuity controversial]] FreudianExcuse in ''HannibalRising''.

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