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* ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' uses this in several books and cultures. Grayson/Manticore Manticore/Andermanni, Manticore/Haven, and now finally Manticore/Solarian League. One of the most hilarious ones happens on Grayson, when Honor alarms her bodyguards upon seeing a group of men heading for a public park armed with "wooden clubs" and thinks there's going to be a riot. Her senior bodyguard can hardly stop laughing long enough to explain to her that these "clubs" are bats used in an ancient sport called {{baseball}}.

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* ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' uses this in several books and cultures. Grayson/Manticore Manticore/Andermanni, Manticore/Haven, and now finally Manticore/Solarian League. One of the most hilarious ones happens on Grayson, when Honor alarms her bodyguards upon seeing a group of men heading for a public park armed with "wooden clubs" and thinks there's going to be a riot. Her senior bodyguard can hardly stop laughing long enough to explain to her that these "clubs" are bats used in an ancient sport called {{baseball}}.UsefulNotes/{{baseball}}.
25th Aug '17 7:47:40 AM StFan
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* CrazyCulturalComparison



* Both averted and subverted in a scene in Frank Herbert's ''Literature/{{Dune}}''. A young Paul Atreides receives "watercounters" (a symbolic currency) as a result of [[TrialByCombat a duel with a Fremen fighter]] shortly after being accepted into the Fremen tribe. Not understanding their meaning, or how to carry them properly [[{{Ninja}} to reduce their noise]], he asks his assigned mentor Chani, a female of similar age, to hold them for him, not knowing that doing so was a Fremen courtship ritual. Averted in that the Fremen recognize his cultural difference and accept it as a neutral, purely practical request. Subverted in that [[spoiler: it was actually a prophetic act by the increasingly-prescient Paul, who had already foreseen becoming mated to Chani as part of his destiny, although he didn't fully realize who she was at the time]].

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* Frank Herbert's ''Literature/{{Dune}}'':
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Both averted and subverted in one scene: a scene in Frank Herbert's ''Literature/{{Dune}}''. A young Paul Atreides receives "watercounters" (a symbolic currency) as a result of [[TrialByCombat a duel with a Fremen fighter]] shortly after being accepted into the Fremen tribe. Not understanding their meaning, or how to carry them properly [[{{Ninja}} to reduce their noise]], he asks his assigned mentor Chani, a female of similar age, to hold them for him, not knowing that doing so was a Fremen courtship ritual. Averted in that the Fremen recognize his cultural difference and accept it as a neutral, purely practical request. Subverted in that [[spoiler: it [[spoiler:it was actually a prophetic act by the increasingly-prescient Paul, who had already foreseen becoming mated to Chani as part of his destiny, although he didn't fully realize who she was at the time]].



* ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' uses this in several books and cultures. Grayson/Manticore Manticore/Andermanni, Manticore/Haven, and now finally Manticore/Solarian League.
** One of the most hilarious ones happens on Grayson, when Honor alarms her bodyguards upon seeing a group of men heading for a public park armed with "wooden clubs" and thinks there's going to be a riot. Her senior bodyguard can hardly stop laughing long enough to explain to her that these "clubs" are bats used in an ancient sport called {{baseball}}.

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* ''Literature/HonorHarrington'' uses this in several books and cultures. Grayson/Manticore Manticore/Andermanni, Manticore/Haven, and now finally Manticore/Solarian League.
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League. One of the most hilarious ones happens on Grayson, when Honor alarms her bodyguards upon seeing a group of men heading for a public park armed with "wooden clubs" and thinks there's going to be a riot. Her senior bodyguard can hardly stop laughing long enough to explain to her that these "clubs" are bats used in an ancient sport called {{baseball}}.



* The Literature/NewJediOrder is all about this on an epic, AnyoneCanDie scale. The two sides of the conflict are the familiar galactic civilization from the movies and the [[ScaryDogmaticAliens Yuuzhan Vong]], who each see the other's society as repulsively, irredeemably evil (the fact that the Vong are a religious extremist, totalitarian dictatorship obsessed with both feeling and inflicting pain is understandably offputting, while to them the galaxy's rampant use of machines and especially droids is as horrifying as if they'd been using ''zombies'', and a hideous slap in the face to their gods to boot). [[spoiler: It's eventually revealed that the Vong's leader set the whole thing up as part of an insane plan to become a god, which ''nobody'' was happy about]].
** In the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'', this is one of the main sources of conflict between the Mandalorians and the Jedi. Besides being a ProudWarriorRace, Mandalorians are extreme {{Mama Bear}}s and [[PapaWolf Papa Wolves]] who treat protecting family as sacred as their love of battle. They find the Jedi practice of taking Force-sensitive children away from their families for training and the Jedi philosophy of forming no attachments to be repulsive.
* In John Barnes's ''[[Literature/ThousandCultures A Million Open Doors]]'', when the hero, from a planet founded on the ideals of the medieval troubadours by way of the 18th century Romantic movement becomes an assistant to the envoy to a culture dominated by Rational Christianity, best described as the love-child of John Calvin and Creator/AynRand.
* From Literature/TheKingdomsOfEvil: Everyone and everywhere.
* The war between the SteamPunk and PsychicPowers fueled Sharonans and the {{Magitek}} powered Arcanans in Creator/DavidWeber and Linda Evans ''Literature/HellsGate'' series stems from this. Also on Arcana itself the three main civilizations are a ProudWarriorRace, a caste system with magicians on top, warriors in the middle and everyone else as serfs and a mildly hedonistic republic.
* In Creator/JorgeLuisBorges short story '' "Averroe's Search" '': This is the reason why Averroes, an Islamic philosopher, had PopCultureIsolation and never could understand the terms ''tragedy'' and ''comedy''. TruthInTelevision too.
** Borges comments at the end that his own attempts to understand Averroes are presumably as unsuccessful as Averroes' attempts to understand those two words in Aristotle's ''Poetics'' - there must have been a whole load of cultural quirks that the people of Averroes' Andalus took for granted, but which we simply don't know about (like the live dramatic performances of ancient Athens, which had no counterpart at all in Averroes' day.)

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* Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse:
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The Literature/NewJediOrder ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' is all about this on an epic, AnyoneCanDie scale. The two sides of the conflict are the familiar galactic civilization from the movies and the [[ScaryDogmaticAliens Yuuzhan Vong]], who each see the other's society as repulsively, irredeemably evil (the fact that the Vong are a religious extremist, totalitarian dictatorship obsessed with both feeling and inflicting pain is understandably offputting, off-putting, while to them the galaxy's rampant use of machines and especially droids is as horrifying as if they'd been using ''zombies'', and a hideous slap in the face to their gods to boot). [[spoiler: It's [[spoiler:It's eventually revealed that the Vong's leader set the whole thing up as part of an insane plan to become a god, which ''nobody'' was is happy about]].
** In the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'', this This is one of the main sources of conflict between the Mandalorians and the Jedi. Besides being a ProudWarriorRace, Mandalorians are extreme {{Mama Bear}}s and [[PapaWolf Papa Wolves]] who treat protecting family as sacred as their love of battle. They find the Jedi practice of taking Force-sensitive children away from their families for training and the Jedi philosophy of forming no attachments to be repulsive.
* In John Barnes's ''[[Literature/ThousandCultures A Million Open Doors]]'', when the hero, from a planet founded on the ideals of the medieval troubadours by way of the 18th 18[[superscript:th]] century Romantic movement becomes an assistant to the envoy to a culture dominated by Rational Christianity, best described as the love-child of John Calvin and Creator/AynRand.
* %%* From Literature/TheKingdomsOfEvil: ''Literature/TheKingdomsOfEvil'': Everyone and everywhere.
* The war between the SteamPunk and PsychicPowers fueled PsychicPowers-fueled Sharonans and the {{Magitek}} powered Arcanans in Creator/DavidWeber and Linda Evans ''Literature/HellsGate'' series stems from this. Also Also, on Arcana itself itself, the three main civilizations are a ProudWarriorRace, a caste system with magicians on top, warriors in the middle and everyone else as serfs and a mildly hedonistic republic.
* In Creator/JorgeLuisBorges short story '' "Averroe's Search" '': This Search", this is the reason why Averroes, an Islamic philosopher, had has PopCultureIsolation and never could can understand the terms ''tragedy'' and ''comedy''. TruthInTelevision too.
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too. Borges comments at the end that his own attempts to understand Averroes are presumably as unsuccessful as Averroes' attempts to understand those two words in Aristotle's ''Poetics'' - -- there must have been a whole load of cultural quirks that the people of Averroes' Andalus took for granted, but which we simply don't know about (like the live dramatic performances of ancient Athens, which had no counterpart at all in Averroes' day.)



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25th Aug '17 7:28:51 AM StFan
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* In ''LightNovel/KyouKaraMaou'', Wolfram insults Yuuri's mother, so Yuuri slaps him. Wolfram's brothers beg Yuuri to take it back. Yuuri, who thinks he's just insulted Wolfram back, swears he never will. Turns out [[AccidentalMarriage that's how they propose marriage around those parts]]. The engagement stands for almost three straight seasons, and by the third everyone either considers them married or has forgotten about the proposal altogether. It can sometimes be hard to tell.

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* In ''LightNovel/KyouKaraMaou'', ''LightNovel/KyoKaraMaoh'', Wolfram insults Yuuri's mother, so Yuuri slaps him. Wolfram's brothers beg Yuuri to take it back. Yuuri, who thinks he's just insulted Wolfram back, swears he never will. Turns out [[AccidentalMarriage that's how they propose marriage around those parts]]. The engagement stands for almost three straight seasons, and by the third everyone either considers them married or has forgotten about the proposal altogether. It can sometimes be hard to tell.



* A bit of this is to be expected in ''WebComic/AxisPowersHetalia'' as it is about NationsAsPeople. An example is [[InscrutableOriental Japan]] telling [[{{Keet}} Italy]] he must "[[AccidentalMarriage assume responsibility]]" (which is never actually followed up on) when the latter, who is much less reserved about his emotions and physical contact, hugs him.

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* A bit of this is to be expected in ''WebComic/AxisPowersHetalia'' ''Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia'' as it is about NationsAsPeople. An example is [[InscrutableOriental Japan]] telling [[{{Keet}} Italy]] he must "[[AccidentalMarriage assume responsibility]]" (which is never actually followed up on) when the latter, who is much less reserved about his emotions and physical contact, hugs him.
25th Aug '17 7:20:55 AM StFan
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* JustFollowingOrders is an example of this. In German Law, UsefulNotes/DegreesOfMurder is set by the motivation of the accused when committing the crime. Thus the sentence is set based on the charge. In UsefulNotes/CommonLaw motivation plays no part in the charges but rather the planning or intent to commit the act. Motive comes into play only after guilt is established. So, to Britain and American members of the court, the "justification" came off as more severe because not only were they admitting to playing a part in a premeditated crime (which is the most severe of the murder charges) but upon guilt, they could now say that at no point did they see their actions as wrong, which doesn't help at sentencing.

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* JustFollowingOrders is an example of this. In German Law, UsefulNotes/DegreesOfMurder UsefulNotes/ThreeDegreesOfMurder is set by the motivation of the accused when committing the crime. Thus the sentence is set based on the charge. In UsefulNotes/CommonLaw motivation plays no part in the charges but rather the planning or intent to commit the act. Motive comes into play only after guilt is established. So, to Britain and American members of the court, the "justification" came off as more severe because not only were they admitting to playing a part in a premeditated crime (which is the most severe of the murder charges) but upon guilt, they could now say that at no point did they see their actions as wrong, which doesn't help at sentencing.
25th Aug '17 7:18:41 AM StFan
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->'''[[Creator/GavinFree Gavin]]:''' Aw, there's a Filer-Fax!
->'''[[Creator/MichaelJones Michael]]:''' Oh, boy, what? What do you call it?
->'''Gavin:''' Filer-Fax.
->'''Michael:''' It's a Rolodex in America.
->'''Gavin:''' Cultural differences.

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->'''[[Creator/GavinFree Gavin]]:''' Aw, there's a Filer-Fax!
->'''[[Creator/MichaelJones
Filer-Fax!\\
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->'''Gavin:''' Filer-Fax.
->'''Michael:'''
it?\\
'''Gavin:''' Filer-Fax.\\
'''Michael:'''
It's a Rolodex in America.
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America.\\
'''Gavin:'''
Cultural differences.



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* ''[[FanFic/TheConversionBureau The TCB-Verse]]'', where a [[MedievalStasis medieval]], HighFantasy [[SugarBowl pony nation]] turns up on RealLife Earth TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, and tries to claim it in order to save it from inevitable environmental destruction. In many versions, it ends [[WorldWarIII badly for everyone involved]]. Also notable for being controversial in its very premise, TCB became a BrokenBase between fans who supported the idealistic pony cause [[TheNeedsOfTheMany since it was for the greater good]] and fans who felt the humans more than justified in fighting off [[ScaryDogmaticAliens the pony invasion]].
* In ''FanFic/{{Embers}}'', an ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' fanfic by Vathara, failure to do a [[CrazyCulturalComparison comparison]] is shown to have [[CultureClash incredibly painful results]]... and arguably, this is one of the major reasons this story was written. A full chapter was dedicated to what the four elemental nations each mean when they say 'truce', each of which was different, and had different cultural reasons behind it.

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* ''[[FanFic/TheConversionBureau ''[[Fanfic/TheConversionBureau The TCB-Verse]]'', where a [[MedievalStasis medieval]], HighFantasy [[SugarBowl pony nation]] turns up on RealLife Earth TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture, and tries to claim it in order to save it from inevitable environmental destruction. In many versions, it ends [[WorldWarIII badly for everyone involved]]. Also notable for being controversial in its very premise, TCB became a BrokenBase between fans who supported the idealistic pony cause [[TheNeedsOfTheMany since it was for the greater good]] and fans who felt the humans more than justified in fighting off [[ScaryDogmaticAliens the pony invasion]].
* In ''FanFic/{{Embers}}'', ''Fanfic/{{Embers}}'', an ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' fanfic by Vathara, failure to do a [[CrazyCulturalComparison comparison]] is shown to have [[CultureClash incredibly painful results]]... and arguably, this is one of the major reasons this story was written. A full chapter was dedicated to what the four elemental nations each mean when they say 'truce', "truce", each of which was different, and had different cultural reasons behind it.



* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''MassEffect''[=/=]''StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'']] [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its [[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins sequel]], this crops up because the [[TheFederation Trans-Galactic Republic]]'s lack of an AlienNonInterferenceClause lets them (with permission) become involved with political systems [[NotSoOmniscientCouncilOfBickering quite]] [[AnarchyIsChaos unlike]] their own. Citadel Council [[FantasticRacism race politics]] aren't completely understood when the Trans-Galactic Republic tries to help prepare for the [[AlienInvasion Reaper invasion]], leading to a slide into fascism. Even worse is the [[CrapsackWorld oligarchic galaxy next door]], which makes even less sense to the "civilized" forces of the Republic. From casually nuking civilians to using alcohol in therapy, societal norms there make Trans-Galactic Republic authorities uncomfortable to say the least.

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* In ''FanFic/{{Fractured}}'', ''Fanfic/{{Fractured}}'', a ''MassEffect''[=/=]''StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'']] ''Franchise/MassEffect''[=/=]''Franchise/StarWars''[[spoiler:[=/=]''[=Borderlands=]'']] [[MassiveMultiplayerCrossover crossover]] and its [[FanFic/SovereignGFCOrigins sequel]], this crops up because the [[TheFederation Trans-Galactic Republic]]'s lack of an AlienNonInterferenceClause lets them (with permission) become involved with political systems [[NotSoOmniscientCouncilOfBickering quite]] [[AnarchyIsChaos unlike]] their own. Citadel Council [[FantasticRacism race politics]] aren't completely understood when the Trans-Galactic Republic tries to help prepare for the [[AlienInvasion Reaper invasion]], leading to a slide into fascism. Even worse is the [[CrapsackWorld oligarchic galaxy next door]], which makes even less sense to the "civilized" forces of the Republic. From casually nuking civilians to using alcohol in therapy, societal norms there make Trans-Galactic Republic authorities uncomfortable to say the least.



** One occurs in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/609041 Bilbo's Hair]]'', where hobbits see braiding as an activity only done by women and something that's not very beneficial, whereas dwarves braid as a sign of status, courtship and friendship, as well as training the fingers and their eye to hand coordination for fighting and craftsmanship.
** In another fic, ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/731818/chapters/1359880 Into The Fire]]'', Thorin and a few other dwarves mistakenly come to think that Bilbo is nobility since he owns land and collects money from his tenants, and is also a prince since his grandfather is the Thain (which they think is a title equivalent to king) of the Shire. The concept of a middle-class gentleman is after all hard to reconcile with the feudal system which most of Middle Earth operates on.
** In [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/3385085/chapters/7405448 Wear a Flower in Your Hair (You're Beautiful)]], Thorin calls Bella [[GenderFlip (femme!Bilbo)]] a halfling in reference to her being a hobbit. Unbeknownst to Thorin, "halfling" is an insult hobbits use to describe females who are barren. He is promptly horrified [[OpenMouthInsertFoot at how badly he stuck his foot in his mouth]] and ''disgusted'' that a culture would have such an insult; while children are prized among dwarves due to their rarity, no female is ever shamed for being unable to have children or choosing not to have them, in stark contrast to the hobbits who are family-oriented to such an extent that it's lead to immeasurable heartache for those in Bella's position. The author also notes that the dwarf culture, from their research, is surprisingly gender equal with the closest word to "queen" (what Bella will be after the dwarves' home is restored due to her marriage to Thorin) translating to "she who is the king's equal".
* Used rather frequently in ''WebVideo/DragonballZAbridged'', wherein Vegeta has difficulties with differences between Earth culture and Space culture. Among other things, he didn't know what soap was (when the composiition of it was described, he thought it was food), and when Bulma asked about 'protection' before having sex, he put on his combat armor.
* ''FanFic/{{Hivefled}}'': Gamzee has a SlaveBrand on his arm reading "namoha", meaning "one who is owned by a higher". He hasn't told his human associates what it means; they tried to look it up, but [[spoiler:the only reference they could find, not being able to access the troll internet via a human computer nor read the alphabet used on the trolls' computers, is a porn site. Misleading and incomprehensible videos have led them to believe that Gamzee is a rapist who was branded as a legal punishment.]]
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** One occurs in ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/609041 Bilbo's Hair]]'', where hobbits see braiding as an activity only done by women and something that's not very beneficial, whereas dwarves braid as a sign of status, courtship and friendship, as well as training the fingers and their eye to hand eye-to-hand coordination for fighting and craftsmanship.
** In another fic, ''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/731818/chapters/1359880 Into The the Fire]]'', Thorin and a few other dwarves mistakenly come to think that Bilbo is nobility since he owns land and collects money from his tenants, and is also a prince since his grandfather is the Thain (which they think is a title equivalent to king) of the Shire. The concept of a middle-class gentleman is after all hard to reconcile with the feudal system which most of Middle Earth operates on.
** In [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/3385085/chapters/7405448 Wear a Flower in Your Hair (You're Beautiful)]], Thorin calls Bella [[GenderFlip (femme!Bilbo)]] (femme Bilbo)]] a halfling in reference to her being a hobbit. Unbeknownst to Thorin, "halfling" is an insult hobbits use to describe females who are barren. He is promptly horrified [[OpenMouthInsertFoot at how badly he stuck his foot in his mouth]] and ''disgusted'' that a culture would have such an insult; while children are prized among dwarves due to their rarity, no female is ever shamed for being unable to have children or choosing not to have them, in stark contrast to the hobbits who are family-oriented to such an extent that it's lead to immeasurable heartache for those in Bella's position. The author also notes that the dwarf culture, from their research, is surprisingly gender equal with the closest word to "queen" (what Bella will be after the dwarves' home is restored due to her marriage to Thorin) translating to "she who is the king's equal".
* Used rather frequently in ''WebVideo/DragonballZAbridged'', wherein Vegeta has difficulties with differences between Earth culture and Space culture. Among other things, he didn't know what soap was (when the composiition composition of it was described, he thought it was food), and when Bulma asked about 'protection' "protection" before having sex, he put on his combat armor.
* ''FanFic/{{Hivefled}}'': ''Fanfic/{{Hivefled}}'': Gamzee has a SlaveBrand on his arm reading "namoha", meaning "one who is owned by a higher". He hasn't told his human associates what it means; they tried to look it up, but [[spoiler:the only reference they could find, not being able to access the troll internet via a human computer nor read the alphabet used on the trolls' computers, is a porn site. Misleading and incomprehensible videos have led them to believe that Gamzee is a rapist who was branded as a legal punishment.]]
* ''FanFic/WingsToFly'':''Fanfic/WingsToFly'':



-->“It was not a secret, Commander Reshek,” Dul’krah says. “The only question I had was when your first children would be born.” There’s an oddly musical clunk from Warragul dropping his guitar. I feel my cheeks burning and Dul’krah has the good sense to start looking embarrassed. “My apologies. Clearly I have run afoul of, I believe the term Lieutenant Commander Bo’tok at the Academy used was ‘culture clash’.”\\
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“''Phekk’tem'' understatement,” somebody female in the crowd mutters in Perikian.\\
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“Watch it,” I warn over my shoulder.
* ''FanFic/AWorldOfBloodyEvolution'' takes the rather carefree Yang from [[WorldHalfFull Remnant]] and tosses her in the TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 universe. While Yang enjoys the challenging fights, she is highly disturbed the the rampant zealotry and FantasticRacism. [[spoiler:Weiss, who transferred over 50 years before Yang, didn't have as much issue adjusting, though she still hates the place.]]

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-->“It -->"It was not a secret, Commander Reshek,” Dul’krah Reshek," Dul'krah says. “The "The only question I had was when your first children would be born.” There’s " There's an oddly musical clunk from Warragul dropping his guitar. I feel my cheeks burning and Dul’krah Dul'krah has the good sense to start looking embarrassed. “My "My apologies. Clearly I have run afoul of, I believe the term Lieutenant Commander Bo’tok Bo'tok at the Academy used was ‘culture clash’.”\\
'culture clash'."\\
"''Phekk'tem'' understatement," somebody female in the crowd mutters in Perikian.
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“''Phekk’tem'' understatement,” somebody female in the crowd mutters in Perikian.\\
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“Watch it,”
"Watch it," I warn over my shoulder.
* ''FanFic/AWorldOfBloodyEvolution'' ''Fanfic/AWorldOfBloodyEvolution'' takes the rather carefree Yang from [[WorldHalfFull Remnant]] and tosses her in the TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 universe. While Yang enjoys the challenging fights, she is highly disturbed the the rampant zealotry and FantasticRacism. [[spoiler:Weiss, who transferred over 50 years before Yang, didn't have as much issue adjusting, though she still hates the place.]]



* In ''Fanfiction/ChrysalisVisitsTheHague'', a good portion of the conflict between ponies and humans stems from complex issues like the humans' historical treatment of earthly horses as lowly pack animals, to things as banal as the ponies' all-herbivore diet.

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* In ''Fanfiction/ChrysalisVisitsTheHague'', ''Fanfic/ChrysalisVisitsTheHague'', a good portion of the conflict between ponies and humans stems from complex issues like the humans' historical treatment of earthly horses as lowly pack animals, to things as banal as the ponies' all-herbivore diet.



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* In Film/TheBaaderMeinhofComplex, Muslim terrorists sharing the training camp with the RAF are not pleased about them sunbathing in the nude and both sexes having the same quarters.
* This tropes drives a lot of early interaction between Algren, the late-nineteenth century American soldier, and the Japanese samurai he finds himself among in ''Film/TheLastSamurai'', particularly in their [[WarIsHell differing views]] [[WarIsGlorious on war]]. A stand out example is when discussing Custer's Last Stand: Algren believes that Custer was arrogant an incompetent for taking his men against a force of natives that vastly outnumbered them, while Kasumoto admires the man's bravery, and says it was a good death for Custer and his men.

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* In Film/TheBaaderMeinhofComplex, ''Film/TheBaaderMeinhofComplex'', Muslim terrorists sharing the training camp with the RAF are not pleased about them sunbathing in the nude and both sexes having the same quarters.
* This tropes drives a lot of early interaction between Algren, the late-nineteenth century American soldier, and the Japanese samurai he finds himself among in ''Film/TheLastSamurai'', particularly in their [[WarIsHell differing views]] [[WarIsGlorious on war]]. A stand out stand-out example is when discussing Custer's Last Stand: Algren believes that Custer was arrogant an incompetent for taking his men against a force of natives that vastly outnumbered them, while Kasumoto admires the man's bravery, and says it was a good death for Custer and his men.






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* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} also has quite a bit of this. The Empire is mainly based on part medieval, part early industrial revolution Germany, but the "good" factions also include various other European influences, particularly French aristocracy and British Arthurian legends (themselves largely based on the culture clash between traditional Celtic culture and the rise of Christianity). Elves, dwarves and humans are nominally on the same side, but often come into conflict due to misunderstanding, or deliberate dismissal, of each others' cultures.

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* TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}} ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' also has quite a bit of this. The Empire is mainly based on part medieval, part early part-medieval, part-early industrial revolution Germany, but the "good" factions also include various other European influences, particularly French aristocracy and British Arthurian legends (themselves largely based on the culture clash between traditional Celtic culture and the rise of Christianity). Elves, dwarves and humans are nominally on the same side, but often come into conflict due to misunderstanding, or deliberate dismissal, of each others' cultures.



* ''Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac'': One of the principal themes of the play is to compare the conventional Frenchmen’s culture with the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Gascon’s]] Culture. First Played for laughs, then played for drama:
** PlayedForLaughs: At Act I Scene IV, De Valvert and Cyrano engage VolleyingInsults. De Valvert, part of the [[DeadlyDecadentCourt court ]] [[JerkJock De Guiche]] [[GirlPosse pays]] loses, but not because his insults are {{Lame Comeback}}s, but because his [[InsultBackfire insults are really compliments]] for a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Gascon]] [[MartyrdomCulture mindset]]: being called ImpoverishedPatrician and “Poet” are not truly insults for Cyrano.

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* ''Theatre/CyranoDeBergerac'': One of the principal themes of the play is to compare the conventional Frenchmen’s Frenchmen's culture with the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Gascon’s]] Gascon's]] Culture. First Played for laughs, then played for drama:
** PlayedForLaughs: At Act I Scene IV, De Valvert and Cyrano engage VolleyingInsults. De Valvert, part of the [[DeadlyDecadentCourt court ]] court]] [[JerkJock De Guiche]] [[GirlPosse pays]] loses, but not because his insults are {{Lame Comeback}}s, but because his [[InsultBackfire insults are really compliments]] for a [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Gascon]] [[MartyrdomCulture mindset]]: being called ImpoverishedPatrician and “Poet” "Poet" are not truly insults for Cyrano.



* In ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic 2: The Sith Lords'', among the Echani repeated duels constitute a courtship and possibly foreplay if the proper rituals are observed. Your female Echani party member doesn't tell you that.
* PlayedForLaughs in ''[[VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII Assassin's Creed III]]'' when Connor [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF2dyF7vZic#t=213s sets out to assassinate William Johnson]] in Sequence 6. Kanen'tó:kon gives Connor a hatchet, which he plants into the side of the Homestead. Achilles [[WhatTheHellHero chews him out]], but Connor [[{{Exposition}} explains]] that the Mohawk plant a hatchet into a post when going to war, and remove it when it is finished. Achilles' retort is [[FunnyMoments priceless]].
--> '''Achilles''': You could have used a tree!

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* In ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic ''VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic 2: The Sith Lords'', among the Echani repeated duels constitute a courtship and possibly foreplay if the proper rituals are observed. Your female Echani party member doesn't tell you that.
* PlayedForLaughs in ''[[VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII Assassin's Creed III]]'' ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'' when Connor [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF2dyF7vZic#t=213s sets out to assassinate William Johnson]] in Sequence 6. Kanen'tó:kon gives Connor a hatchet, which he plants into the side of the Homestead. Achilles [[WhatTheHellHero chews him out]], but Connor [[{{Exposition}} explains]] that the Mohawk plant a hatchet into a post when going to war, and remove it when it is finished. Achilles' retort is [[FunnyMoments priceless]].
--> '''Achilles''': -->'''Achilles:''' You could have used a tree!



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* In ''Webcomic/TemplarArizona''. Mose is betrothed to an 11-year old girl whom he only knows from letters and photographs. His friend-with-benefits Tuesday is utterly apalled by this.

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* In ''Webcomic/TemplarArizona''. ''Webcomic/TemplarArizona'', Mose is betrothed to an 11-year old girl whom he only knows from letters and photographs. His friend-with-benefits Tuesday is utterly apalled appalled by this.



* Played for drama (rare for the comic) in ''Webcomic/AxeCop''. On seeing a mermaid snarl at him, Axe Cop chops his way through the lot of them - only to learn that for mermaids, snarling is an expression of goodness and smiling a sign of evil. Axe Cop is stunned and rather saddened to realize he's just hacked his way through good people.

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* Played for drama (rare for the comic) in ''Webcomic/AxeCop''. On seeing a mermaid snarl at him, Axe Cop chops his way through the lot of them - -- only to learn that for mermaids, snarling is an expression of goodness and smiling a sign of evil. Axe Cop is stunned and rather saddened to realize he's just hacked his way through good people.



* In several v-logs and behind the scene looks, WebVideo/{{Benzaie}} is puzzled by many American customs.

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* In several v-logs and behind the scene behind-the-scene looks, WebVideo/{{Benzaie}} is puzzled by many American customs.



* In the ''{{TabletopGame/BattleTech}}'' animated series, the Clans believed that if you were captured, you had to serve your captors. The Inner Sphere believed that if captured, your first duty was to escape. This was the cause of much culture clash -- the Inner Sphere suspected their captive of attempting sabotage... and upon finally being honorably freed by her clan, the prisoner was disgusted by the Inner Sphere's lack of honor, more convinced than ever that they were AlwaysChaoticEvil barbarians who had to be forcibly "civilized" by the Clans. Meanwhile, the treacherous Inner Sphere captive of the Clans went unsuspected because they believed in his promise of service. This is actually an aspect of the TabletopGame lore which they decided to highlight.
* In ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', The Scotsman and his family repeatedly mock Jack's outfit, saying he is wearing a basket on his head and a dress, and mock his katana for being small compared to their claymores. When Jack tries to greet them by bowing, they ask him why he bent over and stared at the ground. On the flip side, Jack cannot stand bagpipe music and most Scottish cuisine.

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* In the ''{{TabletopGame/BattleTech}}'' ''TabletopGame/{{BattleTech}}'' animated series, the Clans believed believe that if you were are captured, you had have to serve your captors. The Inner Sphere believed believes that if captured, your first duty was is to escape. This was is the cause of much culture clash -- the Inner Sphere suspected suspects their captive of attempting sabotage... and upon finally being honorably freed by her clan, the prisoner was is disgusted by the Inner Sphere's lack of honor, more convinced than ever that they were are AlwaysChaoticEvil barbarians who had have to be forcibly "civilized" by the Clans. Meanwhile, the treacherous Inner Sphere captive of the Clans went goes unsuspected because they believed believe in his promise of service. This is actually an aspect of the TabletopGame lore which they decided to highlight.
* In ''WesternAnimation/SamuraiJack'', The the Scotsman and his family repeatedly mock Jack's outfit, saying he is wearing a basket on his head and a dress, and mock his katana for being small compared to their claymores. When Jack tries to greet them by bowing, they ask him why he bent over and stared at the ground. On the flip side, Jack cannot stand bagpipe music and most Scottish cuisine.



** An animal version of this happens in the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E9BridleGossip Bridle Gossip]]" when several of the locals mistake Zecora [[FurryReminder pawing for water]] as a threat display, and only [[GentlemanAndAScholar Twilight Sparkle]], who already knew about zebras, wasn't scared (at first).
** In "Luna Eclipsed," Princess Luna tries to be regal and gracious in Ponyville, using the patterns of behavior and speech that she remembers from over a thousand years ago. She ''terrifies'' everyone -- save for [[GentlemanAndAScholar Twilight Sparkle]], who knows enough about both cultural history ''and'' royal protocol to realize what Luna is attempting to convey by her conduct.

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** An animal version of this happens in the episode "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS1E9BridleGossip Bridle Gossip]]" when several of the locals mistake Zecora [[FurryReminder pawing for water]] as a threat display, and only [[GentlemanAndAScholar Twilight Sparkle]], who already knew knows about zebras, wasn't isn't scared (at first).
** In "Luna Eclipsed," Eclipsed", Princess Luna tries to be regal and gracious in Ponyville, using the patterns of behavior and speech that she remembers from over a thousand years ago. She ''terrifies'' everyone -- save for [[GentlemanAndAScholar Twilight Sparkle]], who knows enough about both cultural history ''and'' royal protocol to realize what Luna is attempting to convey by her conduct.



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* Most Western and Middle Eastern cultures consider food being left uneaten as a sign of disrespect to either the host's skills or hospitality. On the contrary, leaving food uneaten in China suggests that it was enough, and eating everything that you've been served can imply that the host has failed to provide you with enough food. Woe betide you if you're invited for dinner by a Middle Eastern/Chinese couple...

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* Most Western and Middle Eastern Middle-Eastern cultures consider food being left uneaten as a sign of disrespect to either the host's skills or hospitality. On the contrary, leaving food uneaten in China suggests that it was enough, and eating everything that you've been served can imply that the host has failed to provide you with enough food. Woe betide you if you're invited for dinner by a Middle Eastern/Chinese couple...



** Much of Korea and China's dislike of Japan is the result of this trope. Japanese culture makes it extremely taboo to make your "group" look bad to outsiders. Your group includes things like your family, your class, your company, your nation, ect. Naturally, this led to Japan not liking to discuss their role in WWII, which comes off as insensitive to Koreans and Chinese war victims. The United States, with it's own share of shameful past, generally is a bit more forgiving of Japan, but some circles still are taken aback with how little the subject comes up in Japan's history courses. This is especially true when compared to Germany, which are very open about how they are remorseful for their WWII involvement.
* JustFollowingOrders is an example of this. In German Law, UsefulNotes/DegreesOfMurder is set by the motivation of the accused when committing the crime. Thus the sentence is set based on the charge. In UsefulNotes/CommonLaw motivation plays no part in the charges but rather the planning or intent to commit the act. Motive comes into play only after guilt is established. So, to Britain and American members of the court, the "justification" came off as more severe because not only were they admitting to playing a part in a pre-meditated crime (which is the most severe of the murder charges) but upon guilt, they could now say that at no point did they see their actions as wrong, which doesn't help at sentencing.

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** * Much of Korea and China's dislike of Japan is the result of this trope. Japanese culture makes it extremely taboo to make your "group" look bad to outsiders. Your group includes things like your family, your class, your company, your nation, ect.etc. Naturally, this led to Japan not liking to discuss their role in WWII, which comes off as insensitive to Koreans and Chinese war victims. The United States, with it's its own share of shameful past, generally is a bit more forgiving of Japan, but some circles still are taken aback with how little the subject comes up in Japan's history courses. This is especially true when compared to Germany, which are very open about how they are remorseful for their WWII involvement.
* JustFollowingOrders is an example of this. In German Law, UsefulNotes/DegreesOfMurder is set by the motivation of the accused when committing the crime. Thus the sentence is set based on the charge. In UsefulNotes/CommonLaw motivation plays no part in the charges but rather the planning or intent to commit the act. Motive comes into play only after guilt is established. So, to Britain and American members of the court, the "justification" came off as more severe because not only were they admitting to playing a part in a pre-meditated premeditated crime (which is the most severe of the murder charges) but upon guilt, they could now say that at no point did they see their actions as wrong, which doesn't help at sentencing.



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* This tropes drives a lot of early interaction between Algren, the late-nineteenth century American soldier, and the Japanese samurai he finds himself among in ''Film/TheLastSamurai'', particularly in their [[WarIsHell differing views]] [[WarIsGlorious on war]]. A stand out example is when discussing Custer's Last Stand: Algren believes that Custer was arrogant an incompetent for taking his men against a force of natives that vastly outnumbered them, while Kasumoto admires the man's bravery, and says it was a good death for Custer and his men.
29th Jun '17 4:54:32 PM ThraggLootrippa
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* In Chris Roberson's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Literature/BloodRavens novel ''Dawn of War II'', when the Blood Ravens are looking for aspirants among refugees, one speaks to the old woman who is in charge of one group, to try to get a boy from her. She contemptuously refuses to speak to him because he hasn't show her his face. He considers and unhelms rather than use force. That granted, she only asks whether the boy will have a chance to survive if they take him, and being told that he will have a chance to live, tells him to take him.

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* In Chris Roberson's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Literature/BloodRavens novel ''Dawn of War II'', when the Blood Ravens are looking for aspirants among refugees, one speaks to the old woman who is in charge of one group, group to try to get a boy from her. She contemptuously refuses to speak to him because he hasn't show shown her his face. He considers and unhelms rather than use force. That granted, she only asks whether the boy will have a chance to survive if they take him, and being told that he will have a chance to live, tells him to take him.
28th Jun '17 10:53:04 AM BeerBaron
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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' games are all about this. The Dunmer traditionally enslave the beast races ([[CatFolk Khajit]] and [[LizardFolk Argonians]]), which they are understandably not fans of. In the other direction, the Imperials consider Dunmer ancestor worship to be equivalent to necromancy and severely frown on it, although they stopped short of outright banning it in order to avoid rebellion. The Khajit have a somewhat loose view of personal property. The Altmer consider themselves better than anyone else and think they should be in charge, which is a bit of a problem for the Imperials as they think exactly the same thing. When cultures aren't clashing, it often escalates to full on FantasticRacism.

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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls'' games are series is all about this. The [[OurElvesAreBetter Dunmer (Dark Elves)]] traditionally enslave the beast races ([[CatFolk Khajit]] Khajiit]] and [[LizardFolk Argonians]]), which they those races are understandably not fans of. In the other direction, the Imperials [[HumansAreLeaders Imperials]] consider Dunmer ancestor worship to be equivalent to necromancy and severely frown on it, although they stopped short of outright banning it in order to avoid rebellion. The Khajit Khajiit have a somewhat loose view of personal property. property, which naturally leads to conflicts outside in other lands where this behavior constitutes "theft." . The Altmer (High Elves) consider themselves [[CulturalPosturing better than anyone else everyone else]] and think they should be in charge, which is a bit of a problem for the Imperials as they think exactly the same thing. When cultures aren't just clashing, it often escalates to full on FantasticRacism.
3rd May '17 6:06:18 PM Abodos
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', the Gerudo are a OneGenderRace of women, and as a result are shown to have a very hard time interacting with men. They have a special class dedicated to helping Gerudo understand how to woo men (one particularly bad student keeps flunking the lessons by being ''way'' too aggressive), and traveling Gerudo that Link encounters are often quite awkward with interacting with him. At least one actively flies into a panic when Link talks to her, whispering to herself to try and remember the lessons she was taught about what to do around a "voe".

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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', the Gerudo are a OneGenderRace of women, and as a result are shown to have a very hard time interacting with men. They have a special class dedicated to helping Gerudo understand how to woo men (one particularly bad student keeps flunking the lessons by being ''way'' too aggressive), and traveling Gerudo that Link encounters are often quite awkward with interacting with him. him. At least one actively flies into a panic when Link talks to her, whispering to herself to try and remember the lessons she was taught about what to do around a "voe".
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* In ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', the Gerudo are a OneGenderRace of women, and as a result are shown to have a very hard time interacting with men. They have a special class dedicated to helping Gerudo understand how to woo men (one particularly bad student keeps flunking the lessons by being ''way'' too aggressive), and traveling Gerudo that Link encounters are often quite awkward with interacting with him. At least one actively flies into a panic when Link talks to her, whispering to herself to try and remember the lessons she was taught about what to do around a "voe".
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