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24th Nov '16 3:06:20 PM jeez
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* In ''Fanfiction/ChrysalisVisitsTheHague'', a good portion of the conflict between ponies and humans stems from complex issues like the humans' historical treatment of earthly horses as lowly pack animals, to things as banal as the ponies' all-herbivore diet.
5th Nov '16 9:39:36 AM nombretomado
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* The ''HouseOfMouse'' episode "Mickey and the Culture Clash", where Mickey reads a letter in the newspaper saying Minnie wants a more 'sophisticated' boyfriend. He tries to be more fancy, but then finds out it's all a trick by Mortimer so he can steal Minnie away from Mickey.

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* The ''HouseOfMouse'' ''WesternAnimation/HouseOfMouse'' episode "Mickey and the Culture Clash", where Mickey reads a letter in the newspaper saying Minnie wants a more 'sophisticated' boyfriend. He tries to be more fancy, but then finds out it's all a trick by Mortimer so he can steal Minnie away from Mickey.
4th Nov '16 2:43:49 AM Theriocephalus
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* In FanFic/{{Embers}}, an ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' fanfic by Vathara, failure to do a [[CrazyCulturalComparison comparison]] is shown to have [[CultureClash incredibly painful results]]... and arguably, this is one of the major reasons this story was written. A full chapter was dedicated to what the four elemental nations each mean when they say 'truce', each of which was different, and had different cultural reasons behind it.

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* In FanFic/{{Embers}}, ''FanFic/{{Embers}}'', an ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' fanfic by Vathara, failure to do a [[CrazyCulturalComparison comparison]] is shown to have [[CultureClash incredibly painful results]]... and arguably, this is one of the major reasons this story was written. A full chapter was dedicated to what the four elemental nations each mean when they say 'truce', each of which was different, and had different cultural reasons behind it.



* There are a few disagreements or misunderstandings in ''Film/TheHobbit'' fanfiction that often occur because Bilbo and the dwarves come from different cultures. One occurs in [[http://archiveofourown.org/works/609041 Bilbo's Hair]] where hobbits see braiding as an activity only done by women and something that's not very beneficial, whereas dwarves braid as a sign of status, courtship and friendship, as well as training the fingers and their eye to hand coordination for fighting and craftsmanship.

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* There are a few disagreements or misunderstandings in ''Film/TheHobbit'' fanfiction that often occur because Bilbo and the dwarves come from different cultures. cultures.
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One occurs in [[http://archiveofourown.''[[http://archiveofourown.org/works/609041 Bilbo's Hair]] Hair]]'', where hobbits see braiding as an activity only done by women and something that's not very beneficial, whereas dwarves braid as a sign of status, courtship and friendship, as well as training the fingers and their eye to hand coordination for fighting and craftsmanship.



* ''FanFic/AWorldOfBloodyEvolution'' takes the rather carefree Yang from [[WorldHalfFull Remnant]] and tosses her in the TabletopGame/{{Warhammer40000}} universe. While Yang enjoys the challenging fights, she is highly disturbed the the rampant zealotry and FantasticRacism. [[spoiler:Weiss, who transferred over 50 years before Yang, didn't have as much issue adjusting, though she still hates the place.]]

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* ''FanFic/AWorldOfBloodyEvolution'' takes the rather carefree Yang from [[WorldHalfFull Remnant]] and tosses her in the TabletopGame/{{Warhammer40000}} TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 universe. While Yang enjoys the challenging fights, she is highly disturbed the the rampant zealotry and FantasticRacism. [[spoiler:Weiss, who transferred over 50 years before Yang, didn't have as much issue adjusting, though she still hates the place.]]
19th Sep '16 8:16:01 AM Morgenthaler
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* In the second book in the {{Petaybee}} series, the ordinary Petaybeans take issue with the customs of the cult that raised 'Cita.

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* In the second book in the {{Petaybee}} ''Literature/{{Petaybee}}'' series, the ordinary Petaybeans take issue with the customs of the cult that raised 'Cita.
8th Sep '16 4:14:59 PM Divra
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* ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' has a very subtle example in Pippin's conversations with Denethor. After their first conversation, rumors abound that Pippin is a hobbit prince (technically true, his father Paladin Took is the current Thain, but the Thain's only function is to lead defenders if the Shire is invaded), that he is in Minas Tirith to negotiate an alliance (false, except on a personal level), and that an army of hobbits is on its way to reinforce Minas Tirith (HaHaHaNo). In appendix E, Tolkien states that Westron (the common tongue of Middle-Earth, which was rendered as English in the books), has two second-person pronouns, one formal and one informal, but that the formal one has fallen into disuse in the Hobbit dialect. The implication is that someone overheard Pippin talking to Denethor, assumed no-one who wasn't at least a Prince would dare to assume to be on FirstNameBasis with the Steward of Gondor at a first meeting, and things just spun off from there. Meanwhile, Pippin was just talking to the Steward in the same way he talks to everyone, from his neighbors to Gandalf to Orcs.

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* ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'' has a very subtle example in Pippin's conversations with Denethor. After their first conversation, rumors abound that Pippin is a hobbit prince (technically true, his father Paladin Took is the current Thain, but the Thain's only function is to lead defenders if the Shire is invaded), that he is in Minas Tirith to negotiate an alliance (false, except on a personal level), and that an army of hobbits is on its way to reinforce Minas Tirith (HaHaHaNo). In appendix E, Tolkien states that Westron (the common tongue of Middle-Earth, which was rendered as English in the books), has two second-person pronouns, one formal and one informal, but that the formal one has fallen into disuse in the Hobbit dialect. The implication is that someone overheard Pippin talking to Denethor, assumed no-one who wasn't at least a Prince would dare to assume to be on FirstNameBasis with the Steward of Gondor at a first meeting, and things the rumor mill just spun off from there. Meanwhile, Pippin was just talking to the Steward in the same way he talks to everyone, from his neighbors to Gandalf to Orcs.
31st Aug '16 8:09:05 PM PaulA
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* In Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs's ''[[Literature/JohnCarterOfMars A Princess of Mars]]'', Dejiah Thoris tries to appeal to John Carter, and fails.
-->''As her gaze rested on me her eyes opened wide in astonishment, and she made a little sign with her free hand; a sign which I did not, of course, understand. Just a moment we gazed upon each other, and then the look of hope and renewed courage which had glorified her face as she discovered me, faded into one of utter dejection, mingled with loathing and contempt. I realized I had not answered her signal, and ignorant as I was of Martian customs, I intuitively felt that she had made [[DamselInDistress an appeal for succor and protection]] which my unfortunate ignorance had prevented me from answering.''
** In ''At the Earth's Core'', David Innes fights for Dian. He does not realize that after it, he could take her hand to claim her as his wife, take her hand and let go to free her, or do nothing to [[MadeASlave make her his slave]]. He does nothing. She is ''not pleased.''

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* Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs:
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In Creator/EdgarRiceBurroughs's ''[[Literature/JohnCarterOfMars A Princess of Mars]]'', ''Literature/APrincessOfMars'', Dejiah Thoris (princess of Mars) tries to appeal to John Carter, Carter (man newly-arrived from Earth), and fails.
-->''As --->''As her gaze rested on me her eyes opened wide in astonishment, and she made a little sign with her free hand; a sign which I did not, of course, understand. Just a moment we gazed upon each other, and then the look of hope and renewed courage which had glorified her face as she discovered me, faded into one of utter dejection, mingled with loathing and contempt. I realized I had not answered her signal, and ignorant as I was of Martian customs, I intuitively felt that she had made [[DamselInDistress an appeal for succor and protection]] which my unfortunate ignorance had prevented me from answering.''
** In ''At the Earth's Core'', ''Literature/AtTheEarthsCore'', David Innes fights for Dian. He does not realize that after it, he could take her hand to claim her as his wife, take her hand and let go to free her, or do nothing to [[MadeASlave make her his slave]]. He does nothing. She is ''not pleased.''
31st Aug '16 3:26:31 AM Morgenthaler
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* In Chris Roberson's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} BloodRavens novel ''Dawn of War II'', when the BloodRavens are looking for aspirants among refugees, one speaks to the old woman who is in charge of one group, to try to get a boy from her. She contemptuously refuses to speak to him because he hasn't show her his face. He considers and unhelms rather than use force. That granted, she only asks whether the boy will have a chance to survive if they take him, and being told so, tells him to take him.

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* In Chris Roberson's TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} BloodRavens Literature/BloodRavens novel ''Dawn of War II'', when the BloodRavens are looking for aspirants among refugees, one speaks to the old woman who is in charge of one group, to try to get a boy from her. She contemptuously refuses to speak to him because he hasn't show her his face. He considers and unhelms rather than use force. That granted, she only asks whether the boy will have a chance to survive if they take him, and being told so, tells him to take him.
10th Aug '16 8:00:06 PM PaulA
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* ''[[Literature/AsianSaga Shogun]]'' has plenty examples of this being about an Englishman in 1600s Japan. A rather blatant example is when certain Japanese taking care of him, after being commanded to cater to his every need, politely ask him if he'd like sex with one of the girls looking after him. When he declines embarrassed, they ask if he'd prefer a man.... and then whether he'd prefer a boy!

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* ''[[Literature/AsianSaga Shogun]]'' ''Literature/{{Shogun}}'' has plenty examples of this being about an Englishman in 1600s Japan. A rather blatant example is when certain Japanese taking care of him, after being commanded to cater to his every need, politely ask him if he'd like sex with one of the girls looking after him. When he declines embarrassed, they ask if he'd prefer a man.... and then whether he'd prefer a boy!
9th Aug '16 12:22:33 AM StrixObscuro
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* Xavin from ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' often runs into this, being a Skrull who's been raised to kill ever since hatching. Most notably, Xavin has difficulty understanding that the team views Victor, who's an android, as an equal whereas the Xavin only saw him as a useful tool. Xavin also deeply respects strength in all of its forms and therefore doesn't understand why the team doesn't try to TakeOverTheWorld with their superior powers. Also, Xavin doesn't get that being gender fluid is unusual for humans since, in his/her words, for Skrulls "changing gender is no different than changing hair color."

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* Xavin from ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' often runs into this, being a Skrull who's been raised to kill ever since hatching. Most notably, Xavin has difficulty understanding that the team views Victor, who's an android, as an equal whereas the Xavin only saw him as a useful tool. Xavin also deeply respects strength in all of its forms and therefore doesn't understand why the team doesn't try to TakeOverTheWorld with their superior powers. Also, Xavin doesn't get that being gender fluid genderfluid is unusual for humans since, in his/her words, for Skrulls Skrulls, "changing gender is no different than changing hair color.""
** Klara, who joins the team later on, has her own difficulties adjusting, having come from the 1900s, where there were no Skrulls, no Majesdanians, and no androids, and where mutants and magic-users were viewed as possible demons.



* In John Barnes's ''A Million Open Doors'', when the hero, from a planet founded on the ideals of the medieval troubadors by way of the 18th century Romantic movement becomes an assistant to the envoy to a culture dominated by Rational Christianity, best described as the love-child of John Calvin and Creator/AynRand.
* From TheKingdomsOfEvil: Everyone and everywhere.

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* In John Barnes's ''A ''[[Literature/ThousandCultures A Million Open Doors'', Doors]]'', when the hero, from a planet founded on the ideals of the medieval troubadors troubadours by way of the 18th century Romantic movement becomes an assistant to the envoy to a culture dominated by Rational Christianity, best described as the love-child of John Calvin and Creator/AynRand.
* From TheKingdomsOfEvil: Literature/TheKingdomsOfEvil: Everyone and everywhere.



* In JohnCWright's ''[[Literature/HermeticMillenium The Hermetic Millennia]]'', much of the story revolves about how many people from different eras and so different cultures -- and the historical change was often one of bitter reaction and conflict -- are woken out of cryogenic slumber together. Many conflicts ensue.

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* In JohnCWright's Creator/JohnCWright's ''[[Literature/HermeticMillenium The Hermetic Millennia]]'', much of the story revolves about how many people from different eras and so different cultures -- and the historical change was often one of bitter reaction and conflict -- are woken out of cryogenic slumber together. Many conflicts ensue.



** Jon Snow similarly has trouble negotiating between King Stannis's people and the wildlings. For example, the sister-in-law of the King Beyond the Wall is viewed by Stannis's followers as a valuable asset and many knights and nobles ask for her hand in marriage to seal an alliance between them and the wildlings. Jon Snow repeatedly has to explain that she is not viewed by her people as a princess as King Beyond the Wall is not an inherited position and a wildling woman would only marry a man who [[AbductionIsLove successfully abducts]] her to prove his strength and intelligence.

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** Jon Snow similarly has trouble negotiating between King Stannis's Stannis' people and the wildlings. For example, the sister-in-law of the King Beyond the Wall is viewed by Stannis's Stannis' followers as a valuable asset and many knights and nobles ask for her hand in marriage to seal an alliance between them and the wildlings. Jon Snow repeatedly has to explain that she is not viewed by her people as a princess as King Beyond the Wall is not an inherited position and a wildling woman would only marry a man who [[AbductionIsLove successfully abducts]] her to prove his strength and intelligence.
30th Jul '16 12:48:15 PM nombretomado
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* In John Barnes's ''A Million Open Doors'', when the hero, from a planet founded on the ideals of the medieval troubadors by way of the 18th century Romantic movement becomes an assisstant to the envoy to a culture dominated by Rational Christianity, best described as the love-child of John Calvin and Creator/AynRand.

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* In John Barnes's ''A Million Open Doors'', when the hero, from a planet founded on the ideals of the medieval troubadors by way of the 18th century Romantic movement becomes an assisstant assistant to the envoy to a culture dominated by Rational Christianity, best described as the love-child of John Calvin and Creator/AynRand.



* The war between the SteamPunk and PsychicPowers fueled Sharonans and the {{Magitek}} powered Arcanans in DavidWeber and Linda Evans ''Literature/HellsGate'' series stems from this. Also on Arcana itself the three main civilizations are a ProudWarriorRace, a caste system with magicians on top, warriors in the middle and everyone else as serfs and a mildly hedonistic republic.

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* The war between the SteamPunk and PsychicPowers fueled Sharonans and the {{Magitek}} powered Arcanans in DavidWeber Creator/DavidWeber and Linda Evans ''Literature/HellsGate'' series stems from this. Also on Arcana itself the three main civilizations are a ProudWarriorRace, a caste system with magicians on top, warriors in the middle and everyone else as serfs and a mildly hedonistic republic.
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