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20th Mar '17 9:30:11 AM HiddenWindshield
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* At the opening and closing ceremonies of the UsefulNotes/{{London}} 2012 UsefulNotes/OlympicGames, many of the European and South American athletes happily stuck two fingers up at the cameras as they celebrated. [[DidNotDoTheBloodyResearch Apparently no-one warned them exactly what this means in the UK]].
** When used with the palm ''toward'' the person doing it, it's the V-for-Victory sign from UsefulNotes/WorldWarII (and photos exist of prominent Britons such as UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill using it this way). When used with the palm ''away'' from the person doing it, it has a similar meaning to the US gesture made with one less finger. They're kind of similar, except the palm-inward variant implied "I don't mean ''you'', I mean the bloody Boche".
*** The palm-inward gesture is supposedly much older than Churchill's V-sign, though oddly enough they both had their origins in warfare: the original gesture is said to have been invented by English archers in the Hundred Years War, to show the enemy the fingers that would soon be drawing a longbow and sending some nasty, pointy arrows hurtling in their general direction. [[note]]This story is a perfect example of the long and colourful history of violence between the English and the French, but unfortunately is 100% untrue.[[/note]]
*** When the palm is 'towards' the person doing it, it's rude, and the palm away version is the Victory sign.

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* At the opening and closing ceremonies of the UsefulNotes/{{London}} 2012 UsefulNotes/OlympicGames, many of the European and South American athletes happily stuck two fingers up at the cameras with the back of the hand outward as they celebrated. [[DidNotDoTheBloodyResearch Apparently no-one warned them exactly what this means in the UK]].
** When used with the palm ''toward'' the person doing it, it's the V-for-Victory sign from UsefulNotes/WorldWarII (and photos exist of prominent Britons such as UsefulNotes/WinstonChurchill using it this way). When used with the palm ''away'' from the person doing it, it has a similar meaning to the US gesture made with one less finger. They're kind of similar, except the palm-inward variant implied "I don't mean ''you'', I mean the bloody Boche".
*** The palm-inward gesture is supposedly much older than Churchill's V-sign, though oddly enough they both had their origins in warfare: the original gesture is said to have been invented by English archers in the Hundred Years War, to show the enemy the fingers that would soon be drawing a longbow and sending some nasty, pointy arrows hurtling in their general direction. [[note]]This story is a perfect example of the long and colourful history of violence between the English and the French, but unfortunately is 100% untrue.[[/note]]
*** When the palm is 'towards' the person doing it, it's rude, and the palm away version is the Victory sign.
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20th Mar '17 9:20:17 AM HiddenWindshield
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** There's a hilarious example with a race that seals every deal with ''sex''. Ivanova is naturally a little reluctant to do this but also doesn't want to cause an incident. Since the diplomat refuses to learn ''anything'' about lesser cultures due to his belief in [[CulturalPosturing his own culture's superiority]], she manages to trick the diplomat by insisting on doing it the "human way". This involves her dancing around the guy, chanting StockPhrases from the entire lifespan of a dysfunctional relationship, starting with first meeting and ending with infidelity and "you don't love me any more!" Needless to say, the alien diplomat is confused but accepts it.[[note]]His aide, however, knows exactly what Ivanova has done -- and he is not only amused, but chooses not to reveal her deception (at least in part because his boss treats him with the same disdain and rudeness that he shows to everyone else).[[/note]]

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** There's a hilarious example with a race that seals every deal with ''sex''. Ivanova is naturally a little reluctant to do this but also doesn't want to cause an incident. Since the diplomat refuses to learn ''anything'' about lesser cultures due to his belief in [[CulturalPosturing his own culture's superiority]], she manages to trick the diplomat him by insisting on doing it the "human way". This involves her dancing around the guy, chanting StockPhrases {{stock phrase}}s from the entire lifespan of a dysfunctional relationship, starting with first meeting and ending with infidelity and "you don't love me any more!" Needless to say, the alien diplomat is confused but accepts it.[[note]]His aide, however, knows exactly what Ivanova has done -- and he is not only amused, but chooses not to reveal her deception (at least in part because his boss treats him with the same disdain and rudeness that he shows to everyone else).[[/note]][[/note]] He does, however, leave her a note reading "[[OhCrap Next time, my way]]."
20th Mar '17 9:16:39 AM HiddenWindshield
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** There's a hilarious example with a race that seals every deal with ''sex''. Ivanova is a little reluctant to do this but doesn't want to cause an incident. She manages to trick the diplomat by insisting on doing it the "human way", which involves her dancing around the guy, chanting StockPhrases from the entire lifespan of a typical (dysfunctional) relationship, starting with first meeting and ending with infidelity and "you don't love me any more!" Needless to say, the alien diplomat is confused but accepts it.\\\
He accepts it because he has been shown to be so sure of his culture's superiority to other cultures, he refuses to even bother to ''learn'' anything about lesser cultures. He goes along with Ivonova's song-and-dance sex ritual because he didn't want to admit he didn't actually ''know'' how humans had sex. His aide, however, knows exactly what Ivanova has done -- and he is not only amused, but chooses not to reveal her deception (at least in part because his boss treats him with the same disdain and rudeness that he shows to everyone else). Oh, and WordOfGod is that if [[TheCaptain Sheridan]] had been the one conducting negotiations, he too would have been expected to have sex with the Ambassador. At least they're equal opportunity about it.

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** There's a hilarious example with a race that seals every deal with ''sex''. Ivanova is naturally a little reluctant to do this but also doesn't want to cause an incident. She Since the diplomat refuses to learn ''anything'' about lesser cultures due to his belief in [[CulturalPosturing his own culture's superiority]], she manages to trick the diplomat by insisting on doing it the "human way", which way". This involves her dancing around the guy, chanting StockPhrases from the entire lifespan of a typical (dysfunctional) dysfunctional relationship, starting with first meeting and ending with infidelity and "you don't love me any more!" Needless to say, the alien diplomat is confused but accepts it.\\\
He accepts it because he has been shown to be so sure of his culture's superiority to other cultures, he refuses to even bother to ''learn'' anything about lesser cultures. He goes along with Ivonova's song-and-dance sex ritual because he didn't want to admit he didn't actually ''know'' how humans had sex. His
[[note]]His aide, however, knows exactly what Ivanova has done -- and he is not only amused, but chooses not to reveal her deception (at least in part because his boss treats him with the same disdain and rudeness that he shows to everyone else). Oh, and WordOfGod is that if [[TheCaptain Sheridan]] had been the one conducting negotiations, he too would have been expected to have sex with the Ambassador. At least they're equal opportunity about it.else).[[/note]]
27th Feb '17 7:46:31 AM CurledUpWithDakka
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* In the ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'' books there is a tribe called Mud People who greet each other by punching as a sign of respect to the other's strength. And Richard is foreverafter known as "Richard with the Temper" after knocking down the Mud Person who greeted him (the custom was just explained to him, and he didn't know what would be a proper punch). It was considered a sign of great respect. ** It's noted that they're pragmatic about it - within the village, it's a symbolic slap on the cheek, but when warriors meet outside the village (or there is another special occasion), they try to knock each other's teeth out.

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* In the ''Literature/SwordOfTruth'' books there is a tribe called Mud People who greet each other by punching as a sign of respect to the other's strength. And Richard is foreverafter known as "Richard with the Temper" after knocking down the Mud Person who greeted him (the custom was just explained to him, and he didn't know what would be a proper punch). It was considered a sign of great respect. respect.
** It's noted that they're pragmatic about it - within the village, it's a symbolic slap on the cheek, but when warriors meet outside the village (or there is another special occasion), they try to knock each other's teeth out.
11th Jan '17 2:04:22 PM Game_Fan
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** In fact this is a constant problem for all sides. In particular Japan follows modern diplomatic protocol and thus things like proportional response are taken as signs of weakness or incompetence. When Japan blows up a senate building in the imperial capitol, for example, the Empire's leadership doesn't understand why it would be done while the building was empty.
4th Jan '17 5:46:38 PM gb00393
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* ''Series/GameOfThrones'': Talisa, being from Volantis, finds the Westerosi bedding ceremony "a very strange custom."
22nd Nov '16 3:05:12 AM Morgenthaler
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** In another episode O'Brien, Odo, and Sisko have to pretend to be Klingons to expose a Changeling infiltrator on Qo'noS. In addition to altering their appearance, Worf has to tutor them in proper Klingon behavior, which serves as a nice window into the differences between Klingon and human social cues. Klingons do NOT turn away nervously when insulted, and [[NoIndoorVoice they do NOT whisper]]. Klingons also see nothing wrong with punching someone right in the face in response to an insult, though hitting someone with the back of the hand invokes a DuelToTheDeath. Naturally [[{{Badass}} Sisko]] has by far the easiest time acting Klingon.

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** In another episode O'Brien, Odo, and Sisko have to pretend to be Klingons to expose a Changeling infiltrator on Qo'noS. In addition to altering their appearance, Worf has to tutor them in proper Klingon behavior, which serves as a nice window into the differences between Klingon and human social cues. Klingons do NOT turn away nervously when insulted, and [[NoIndoorVoice they do NOT whisper]]. Klingons also see nothing wrong with punching someone right in the face in response to an insult, though hitting someone with the back of the hand invokes a DuelToTheDeath. Naturally [[{{Badass}} Sisko]] Sisko has by far the easiest time acting Klingon.
14th Nov '16 9:53:00 AM megarockman
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* In ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', Starfire has a few strange Tamaranian customs, such as The Pudding Of Sadness and The Poem of Gratitude. In an inversion, she did not realize for a while that kissing people on the lips is a gesture of intimacy on Earth; [[BizarreAlienBiology Tamaranians do it to learn new languages!]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'', Starfire has a few strange Tamaranian customs, such as The Pudding Of Sadness and The Poem of Gratitude.Gratitude (it's 6000 verses long). In an inversion, she did not realize for a while that kissing people on the lips is a gesture of intimacy on Earth; [[BizarreAlienBiology Tamaranians do it to learn new languages!]]
24th Jul '16 4:28:05 AM onionmaster
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* The standard greeting when meeting people in the FurryFandom is hugging, and handshakes are seen as overly formal (and possibly a sign you dislike the person). This is done by anyone regardless of sexuality. In regular society, however, hugging can be seen as overly friendly - and possibly sexual - unless you know the person well (such as family or long-time friends).
23rd Jun '16 3:36:14 PM DarkHunter
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** Paul also makes a social blunder when first inducted into Stilgar's tribe of Fremen. He is given some water tokens (Fremen currency) but he hasn't mastered how to carry them without them jangling all the time, so he asks his female companion Chani if she would carry them for him. Unknown to Paul, this is a highly romantic gesture in Fremen community, generally only done to your betrothed. Stilgar, however, recognizes that Paul's just ignorant of the custom, and tells Chani to just do it and ignore the romantic implications. (Though she does end up Paul's lover.)
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