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14th May '16 3:53:07 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** The witch-burning scene is itself an extended example of ConverseError, of course - with the punchline being that they somehow land on the correct answer anyway. Their reasoning runs:

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** The witch-burning scene is itself an extended example of ConverseError, Converse Error, of course - with the punchline being that they somehow land on the correct answer anyway. Their reasoning runs:
4th May '16 10:02:40 AM Willbyr
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* In ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'', Stan sinks his entire savings to build a rocket for Steve to win a contest.

--> Stan: You gotta spend money to make money.\\
Francine: But you didn't make any money!\\
Stan: So logically, I didn't spend any money! [[NoFourthWall *waves at the camera*]] Goodnight everybody!

* In ''Series/YesPrimeMinister'', Sir Humphrey Appleby explains the fallacy and how foolishly people can fall for it. He demonstrates the illogic of the fallacy by saying:

--> All cats have four legs.\\
My dog has four legs.\\
Therefore my dog is a cat!

* On the soundtrack album of ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail,'' a logician sorting out the movie's witch burning scene goes off on a tangent, stating that "given the premise 'all fish live underwater' and 'all mackerel are fish,' my wife concludes not that all mackerel live underwater but that [[InsaneTrollLogic if she buys kippers it will not rain, or that trout live in trees, or even that I do not love her anymore."]]

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* In ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'', Stan sinks his entire savings to build a rocket for Steve to win a contest.

--> Stan: You gotta spend money to make money.\\
Francine: But you didn't make any money!\\
Stan: So logically, I didn't spend any money! [[NoFourthWall *waves at the camera*]] Goodnight everybody!

* In ''Series/YesPrimeMinister'', Sir Humphrey Appleby explains the fallacy and how foolishly people can fall for it. He demonstrates the illogic of the fallacy by saying:

--> All cats have four legs.\\
My dog has four legs.\\
Therefore my dog is a cat!

*
''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail'':
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On the soundtrack album of ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail,'' album, a logician sorting out the movie's witch burning scene goes off on a tangent, stating that "given the premise 'all fish live underwater' and 'all mackerel are fish,' my wife concludes not that all mackerel live underwater but that [[InsaneTrollLogic if she buys kippers it will not rain, or that trout live in trees, or even that I do not love her anymore."]]anymore]]."



--> Ducks float.
--> This woman shares a notable quality (weight) with a duck.
--> Therefore, this woman must float.
--> Wood floats.
--> Therefore, this floating woman must be made of wood.
--> Things made from wood burn.
--> Witches burn.
--> Therefore, this woman made of wood must be a witch!

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--> Ducks float.
-->
float.\\
This woman shares a notable quality (weight) with a duck.
-->
duck.\\
Therefore, this woman must float.
-->
float.\\
Wood floats.
-->
floats.\\
Therefore, this floating woman must be made of wood.
-->
wood.\\
Things made from wood burn.
-->
burn.\\
Witches burn.
-->
burn.\\
Therefore, this woman made of wood must be a witch!

!!! [[AC:LiveActionTV]]
* In ''Series/YesPrimeMinister'', Sir Humphrey Appleby explains the fallacy and how foolishly people can fall for it. He demonstrates the illogic of the fallacy by saying:
--> All cats have four legs.\\
My dog has four legs.\\
Therefore my dog is a cat!

[[AC:WesternAnimation]]
* In ''WesternAnimation/AmericanDad'', Stan sinks his entire savings to build a rocket for Steve to win a contest.
-->'''Stan''': You gotta spend money to make money.\\
'''Francine''': But you didn't make any money!\\
'''Stan''': So logically, I didn't spend any money! [[NoFourthWall *waves at the camera*]] Goodnight everybody!

!!
Looks like this fallacy but is not:



I must provisionally reject A or modify it to account for D, then continue to seek new information and propose new possible explanations.\\

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I must provisionally reject A or modify it to account for D, then continue to seek new information and propose new possible explanations.\\explanations.

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19th Apr '16 7:51:17 AM Willbyr
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10th Apr '16 6:26:39 PM jormis29
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* In ''YesPrimeMinister'', Sir Humphrey Appleby explains the fallacy and how foolishly people can fall for it. He demonstrates the illogic of the fallacy by saying:

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* In ''YesPrimeMinister'', ''Series/YesPrimeMinister'', Sir Humphrey Appleby explains the fallacy and how foolishly people can fall for it. He demonstrates the illogic of the fallacy by saying:
23rd Mar '16 12:45:55 PM Josef5678
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Has nothing to do with shoes (despite what TheAdvertisementServer thinks).

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Has nothing to do with shoes (despite what TheAdvertisementServer Tropers/TheAdvertisementServer thinks).



* On the soundtrack album of ''MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail,'' a logician sorting out the movie's witch burning scene goes off on a tangent, stating that "given the premise 'all fish live underwater' and 'all mackerel are fish,' my wife concludes not that all mackerel live underwater but that [[InsaneTrollLogic if she buys kippers it will not rain, or that trout live in trees, or even that I do not love her anymore."]]

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* On the soundtrack album of ''MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail,'' ''Film/MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail,'' a logician sorting out the movie's witch burning scene goes off on a tangent, stating that "given the premise 'all fish live underwater' and 'all mackerel are fish,' my wife concludes not that all mackerel live underwater but that [[InsaneTrollLogic if she buys kippers it will not rain, or that trout live in trees, or even that I do not love her anymore."]]



*** A example to compare with the Ferrari one above would be: I clocked my car at 121 mph, therefore it is likely to be a high-performance car (i.e. Ferrari, Bugatti, Lamborghini, etc...) rather than an average family car.

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*** A An example to compare with the Ferrari one above would be: I clocked my car at 121 mph, therefore it is likely to be a high-performance car (i.e. Ferrari, Bugatti, Lamborghini, etc...) rather than an average family car.
19th Mar '16 11:05:28 AM Madrugada
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I clocked my car at 101 miles per hour.\\

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I clocked my car at 101 121 miles per hour.\\



* On the soundtrack album of ''MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail,'' a logician sorting out the movie's witch burning scene goes off on a tangent, stating that "given the premise 'all fish live underwater' and 'all mackerel are fish,' my wife conclude not that all mackerel live underwater but that [[InsaneTrollLogic if she buys kippers it will not rain, or that trout live in trees, or even that I do not love her anymore."]]

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* On the soundtrack album of ''MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail,'' a logician sorting out the movie's witch burning scene goes off on a tangent, stating that "given the premise 'all fish live underwater' and 'all mackerel are fish,' my wife conclude concludes not that all mackerel live underwater but that [[InsaneTrollLogic if she buys kippers it will not rain, or that trout live in trees, or even that I do not love her anymore."]]



*** A example to compare with the Ferrari one above would be: I clocked my car at 101 mph, therefore it is likely to be a high range car (i.e. Ferrari, Bugatti, Lamborghini, etc...) rather than an average model.

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*** A example to compare with the Ferrari one above would be: I clocked my car at 101 121 mph, therefore it is likely to be a high range high-performance car (i.e. Ferrari, Bugatti, Lamborghini, etc...) rather than an average model.family car.
19th Mar '16 10:23:55 AM Chessanator
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*** A example to compare with the Ferrari one above would be: I clocked my car at 101 mph, therefore it is likely to be a high range car (i.e. Ferrari, Bugatti, Lamborghini, etc...) rather than an average model.



I must provisionally reject A or modify it to account for D, then continue to seek new information and propose new possible explanations.\\

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I must provisionally reject A or modify it to account for D, then continue to seek new information and propose new possible explanations.\\
9th Jul '15 9:09:44 AM corruptmalemenace
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** The witch-burning scene is itself an extended example of ConverseError, of course - with the punchline being that they somehow land on the correct answer anyway. Their reasoning runs:
--> Ducks float.
--> This woman shares a notable quality (weight) with a duck.
--> Therefore, this woman must float.
--> Wood floats.
--> Therefore, this floating woman must be made of wood.
--> Things made from wood burn.
--> Witches burn.
--> Therefore, this woman made of wood must be a witch!
1st Sep '14 9:01:28 AM CBCook55
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On the soundtrack album of ''MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail,'' a locigian sorting out the movie's witch burning scene goes off on a tangent, stating that "given the premise 'all fish live underwater' and 'all mackerel are fish,' my wife conclude not that all mackerel live underwater but that [[InsaneTrollLogic if she buys kippers it will not rain, or that trout live in trees, or even that I do not love her anymore."]]

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* On the soundtrack album of ''MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail,'' a locigian logician sorting out the movie's witch burning scene goes off on a tangent, stating that "given the premise 'all fish live underwater' and 'all mackerel are fish,' my wife conclude not that all mackerel live underwater but that [[InsaneTrollLogic if she buys kippers it will not rain, or that trout live in trees, or even that I do not love her anymore."]]
1st Sep '14 9:00:55 AM CBCook55
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On the soundtrack album of ''MontyPythonAndTheHolyGrail,'' a locigian sorting out the movie's witch burning scene goes off on a tangent, stating that "given the premise 'all fish live underwater' and 'all mackerel are fish,' my wife conclude not that all mackerel live underwater but that [[InsaneTrollLogic if she buys kippers it will not rain, or that trout live in trees, or even that I do not love her anymore."]]
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