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7th May '18 4:45:38 PM Primis
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* The ''Videogame/{{InFamous}}'' series largely averts this trope. While there are certain things that make much more sense when you play the first game (Cole's issues with Zeke, his hatred of Kessler, the characters' knowledge of the Beast, and the Beast's identity), the story of ''Videogame/{{InFamous 2}}'' doesn't require too much knowledge of the first entry to fully enjoy. The next entry, ''Videogame/InfamousSecondSon'' is more of a SpinOff than a true sequel. It takes place nearly a decade after the second game and features a new protagonist in a new location and a new supporting cast, so Cole's adventures are largely unimportant to the story (what details are necessary, such as how Conduits came to be, why they are so disliked by regular humans, why there is a military force hunting them down, etc. being explained thoroughly to new players).
30th Apr '18 2:49:32 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'', this wasn't much of a problem during the PC-98 era and the first few games of the Windows era, since the plots of those games were largely self-contained. However, after ''Mountain of Faith'' the ContinuityCreep starts to take place, and now it's much more difficult for newcomers to understand what's going on since each game builds upon the previous one. Comments by ZUN suggest that [[TrollingCreator he feels a certain level of inaccessibility]] is core to the ''Touhou'' experience. The various manga and {{Universe Compendium}}s don't really help either, since all the manga series assume that one is already familiar with the games and their lore and the {{Universe Compendium}}s have some [[UnreliableNarrator Unreliable Narration]] at work.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Touhou}}'', this wasn't much of a problem during the PC-98 era and the first few games of the Windows era, since the plots of those games were largely self-contained. However, after ''Mountain of Faith'' the ContinuityCreep starts to take place, and now it's much more difficult for newcomers to understand what's going on since each game builds upon the previous one. Comments by ZUN suggest that [[TrollingCreator he feels a certain level of inaccessibility]] is core to the ''Touhou'' experience. The various manga and {{Universe Compendium}}s don't really help either, since all the manga series assume that one is already familiar with the games and their lore and the {{Universe Compendium}}s have some [[UnreliableNarrator Unreliable Narration]] at work. That said, since ''Touhou'' is at its core a ShootEmUp series and the shmup genre is known for its heavy focus on gameplay over lore, if you just want a series of BulletHell games, [[PlayTheGameSkipTheStory you don't need to understand the plots to have a good time]].
29th Apr '18 3:23:30 PM costanton11
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* ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' eventually got this way, especially after the introduction of the on-line serials. The main story arcs tended to avoid this, but when former main characters that had been cast aside for years got back on stage, even that went messy. The whole storyline balanced on a thin line between trying to please the older fans and bring in fresh blood. This was probably one of the main reasons Franchise/{{LEGO}} decided to put the line on hiatus and bring in ''Toys/HeroFactory'', which was much lighter on the story and had little to no continuity; and when [[Franchise/{{Bionicle2015}} it was brought back]] it was given a ContinuityReboot to help clear things up.

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* ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' eventually got this way, especially after the introduction of the on-line serials. The main story arcs tended to avoid this, but when former main characters that had been cast aside for years got back on stage, even that went messy. The whole storyline balanced on a thin line between trying to please the older fans and bring in fresh blood. This was probably one of the main reasons Franchise/{{LEGO}} decided to put the line on hiatus and bring in ''Toys/HeroFactory'', which was much lighter on the story and had little to no continuity; and when [[Franchise/{{Bionicle2015}} [[Toys/{{Bionicle2015}} it was brought back]] it was given a ContinuityReboot to help clear things up.
29th Apr '18 10:56:10 AM nombretomado
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* The Film/DCExtendedUniverse seems to be doing this. A major criticism of ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' is that certain parts of the movie make no sense to people who haven't read the comics, and are likely to be expanded upon in future installments.

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* The Film/DCExtendedUniverse Franchise/DCExtendedUniverse seems to be doing this. A major criticism of ''Film/BatmanVSupermanDawnOfJustice'' is that certain parts of the movie make no sense to people who haven't read the comics, and are likely to be expanded upon in future installments.
27th Apr '18 10:02:00 PM crazyrabbits
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** ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' broadly assumes that the viewer has seen ''all'' of the previous MCU films, as it's chockful of nods and references to prior incidents in the timeline. However, it most specifically requires that the viewer has seen the previous ''Avengers'' films (to know that Thanos is involved as the series' BigBad), the ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' (as the main team and the Collector are present), ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' (as ''Infinity War'' begins with several team members on the lam after being broken out of The Raft at the of the previous film) and ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' (which explains why Thor, Loki and Hulk are on the Asgardian ship).

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** ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' broadly assumes that the viewer has seen ''all'' of the previous MCU films, as it's chockful of nods and references to prior incidents in the timeline. However, it most specifically requires that the viewer has seen the previous ''Avengers'' films (to know that Thanos is involved as the series' BigBad), the first ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' (as the main team and the Collector are present), ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' (as ''Infinity War'' begins with several team members on the lam after being broken out of The Raft at the of the previous film) and ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' (which explains why Thor, Loki and Hulk are on the Asgardian ship).
27th Apr '18 10:01:15 PM crazyrabbits
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** ''Film/AvengersInfinityWar'' broadly assumes that the viewer has seen ''all'' of the previous MCU films, as it's chockful of nods and references to prior incidents in the timeline. However, it most specifically requires that the viewer has seen the previous ''Avengers'' films (to know that Thanos is involved as the series' BigBad), the ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'' (as the main team and the Collector are present), ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' (as ''Infinity War'' begins with several team members on the lam after being broken out of The Raft at the of the previous film) and ''Film/ThorRagnarok'' (which explains why Thor, Loki and Hulk are on the Asgardian ship).
25th Apr '18 5:52:31 AM Malady
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* A comparatively minor example in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', but the Courier will have a hard time answering the questions to prove you're an NCR citizen without having played ''{{Fallout}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}''. The only question you can answer based on what's in ''New Vegas'' is the one that asks what's on the NCR's flag. The answers to the other two questions, which ask what the NCR's original capital city and its most popular president are, are not found in game.

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* A comparatively minor example in ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', but the Courier will have a hard time answering the questions to prove you're an NCR citizen without having played ''{{Fallout}}'' ''VideoGame/Fallout1'' and ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 2}}''.''VideoGame/Fallout2''. The only question you can answer based on what's in ''New Vegas'' is the one that asks what's on the NCR's flag. The answers to the other two questions, which ask what the NCR's original capital city and its most popular president are, are not found in game.
3rd Apr '18 3:47:57 PM TheJayman49
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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' had this, especially during it's [[CerebusSyndrome second]] [[DarkerAndEdgier season]]. The series had long-running plot arcs concerning mystery objects, major changes that tend to [[AvertedTrope avert]] StatusQuoIsGod, and important call-backs that could be confusing for new viewers. It's not so bad that some of the show's younger audience may not be entertained just by the jokes and the action elements of the plot, but the show's older PeripheryDemographic is unlikely to include anyone who hasn't watched it from the first episode, and the GrandFinale is likely to be completely inaccessible for anyone not familiar with the show.

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* ''WesternAnimation/GravityFalls'' had this, was pretty tightly packed with continuity, especially during it's [[CerebusSyndrome second]] [[DarkerAndEdgier season]]. The series had long-running plot arcs concerning mystery objects, major changes that tend to [[AvertedTrope avert]] StatusQuoIsGod, and important call-backs that could be confusing for new viewers. Although season one was largely stand-alone, it still had episodes that introduced characters or certain plot-elements that would [[ChekhovsGun reappear or]] [[ChekhovsGunman become important later on]]. It's not so bad that some of the show's younger audience may not be entertained just by the jokes and the action elements of the plot, but the show's older PeripheryDemographic is unlikely to include anyone who hasn't watched it from the first episode, and the GrandFinale is likely to be completely inaccessible for anyone not familiar with the show.



* With each passing season of''WesternAnimation/LittlestPetShop2012'', protagonist Blythe Baxter continues to move up in the fashion world and becomes increasingly famous, and those seasons' episodes that focus on that aspect of her are written with her then-current status in mind. There are also a handful of episodes that have the Biskit Twins as the antagonist with no explanation given as to why they are the DesignatedVillain; knowledge of their repeated attempts to sabotage Blythe is required.

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* With each passing season of''WesternAnimation/LittlestPetShop2012'', of ''WesternAnimation/LittlestPetShop2012'', protagonist Blythe Baxter continues to move up in the fashion world and becomes increasingly famous, and those seasons' episodes that focus on that aspect of her are written with her then-current status in mind. There are also a handful of episodes that have the Biskit Twins as the antagonist with no explanation given as to why they are the DesignatedVillain; knowledge of their repeated attempts to sabotage Blythe is required.
18th Mar '18 8:16:51 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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** Incredibly, there was until very recently at least one WWE personality whose exploits stretch back all the way to the outbreak of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, well before the beginning of WWE ''or'' NWA: Mae Young (1923-2014), the former United States Women's Champion (a now-defunct title) who appeared on ''Monday Night Raw'' as late as March 2013. With an in-ring career spanning literally six decades, Young was generally referred to in BroadStrokes whenever WWE programming discussed her incredible history, usually being hailed as the first nationally prominent female wrestler (not true, although she was alive when first nationally prominent generation was active) and a morale-booster for Americans on the home front during the war in the 1940s (true this time). Attempts have been made to construct a title archive for Young, but so many of her victories happened so long ago and were so spottily recorded that this task has proved frustrating; indeed, it's doubtful if Young herself could remember everything.

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** Incredibly, there was until very recently at least one WWE personality whose exploits stretch back all the way to the outbreak of UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, well before the beginning of WWE ''or'' NWA: Mae Young Wrestling/MaeYoung (1923-2014), the former United States Women's Champion (a now-defunct title) who appeared on ''Monday Night Raw'' as late as March 2013. With an in-ring career spanning literally six decades, Young was generally referred to in BroadStrokes whenever WWE programming discussed her incredible history, usually being hailed as the first nationally prominent female wrestler (not true, although she was alive when first nationally prominent generation was active) and a morale-booster for Americans on the home front during the war in the 1940s (true this time). Attempts have been made to construct a title archive for Young, but so many of her victories happened so long ago and were so spottily recorded that this task has proved frustrating; indeed, it's doubtful if Young herself could remember everything.
18th Mar '18 7:45:08 AM darkchiefy
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** Prior to the release of ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'', the Russo brothers stated that they'd made the film on the assumption that most of the audience had already seen the previous Marvel movies. It shows. The movie is virtually incomprehensible unless you've not only seen the [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger previous]] [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier two]] ''Captain America'' movies (though that should be obvious since they're in the same series), but the previously mentioned ''Age of Ultron'' as well. Certain key scenes also rely on the audience having knowledge of ''Film/IronMan3'', ''Film/AntMan'' and ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. In an example of TropesAreNotBad, many critics and fans praised the way the film applied this trope to Comicbook/SpiderMan. The movie doesn't explain his origin or reveal too much about his backstory, as there was an unspoken assumption that most of the audience already knew the character from any of his previous five movies or numerous TV shows.

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** Prior to the release of ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'', the Russo brothers Creator/TheRussoBrothers stated that they'd made the film on the assumption that most of the audience had already seen the previous Marvel movies. It shows. The movie is virtually incomprehensible unless you've not only seen the [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger previous]] [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier two]] ''Captain America'' movies (though that should be obvious since they're in the same series), but the previously mentioned ''Age of Ultron'' as well. Certain key scenes also rely on the audience having knowledge of ''Film/IronMan3'', ''Film/AntMan'' and ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}''. In an example of TropesAreNotBad, many critics and fans praised the way the film applied this trope to Comicbook/SpiderMan. The movie doesn't explain his origin or reveal too much about his backstory, as there was an unspoken assumption that most of the audience already knew the character from any of his previous five movies or numerous TV shows.
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