History Main / ContinuityLockout

27th Aug '16 8:41:38 AM Etheru
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* ''VideoGame/SaintsRowIV'' has many missions and jokes that refer back to the previous games, especially ''VideoGame/SaintsRow2''. If you haven't played those earlier games, the significance of certain events is decidedly lost.

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* ''VideoGame/SaintsRowIV'' has many missions and jokes that refer back to the previous games, especially ''VideoGame/SaintsRow2''. If you haven't played those earlier games, the significance of certain events is decidedly lost. Amusingly, ''VideoGame/SaintsRowTheThird'' was supposed to be an aversion, barely bringing up the Stilwater adventures so as to not alienate new players.
7th Aug '16 10:15:51 AM nombretomado
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* Fred Perry's ''ComicBook/GoldDigger'' has a degree of Continuity Lockout nearing that of TheDCU, despite having only existed since the early '90s and consisting only of one main title, a short-lived spinoff, and a few early crossovers with ''ComicBook/NinjaHighSchool''. Miss a few issues and you're likely to be met with a ''completely different set of cast members some of whom haven't shown up for a few years'', sometimes not even mentioning the main characters.

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* Fred Perry's ''ComicBook/GoldDigger'' has a degree of Continuity Lockout nearing that of TheDCU, Franchise/TheDCU, despite having only existed since the early '90s and consisting only of one main title, a short-lived spinoff, and a few early crossovers with ''ComicBook/NinjaHighSchool''. Miss a few issues and you're likely to be met with a ''completely different set of cast members some of whom haven't shown up for a few years'', sometimes not even mentioning the main characters.



* The GailSimone run on ''WonderWoman'' was pretty continuity-heavy and sales fell sharply during it, with the writer herself later lamenting that her run might have been confusing to new readers. DC hired Creator/JMichaelStraczynski to replace Simone and bring in new readers with a highly-publicized storyline that took place in a more accessible AlternateContinuity. Brian Azzarello took Wonder Woman back to a more classic take, but he has said he will be making a deliberate effort to avoid bringing up past storylines and characters so as not to alienate new readers.

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* The GailSimone Creator/GailSimone run on ''WonderWoman'' was pretty continuity-heavy and sales fell sharply during it, with the writer herself later lamenting that her run might have been confusing to new readers. DC hired Creator/JMichaelStraczynski to replace Simone and bring in new readers with a highly-publicized storyline that took place in a more accessible AlternateContinuity. Brian Azzarello took Wonder Woman back to a more classic take, but he has said he will be making a deliberate effort to avoid bringing up past storylines and characters so as not to alienate new readers.
1st Aug '16 8:20:39 PM EternityofSpirits
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* Being the GrandFinale of the Hopes Peak Saga, ''Anime/DanganRonpa3'' is ''full'' of this. Anyone who doesn't have acute and aware knowledge of ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'', ''LightNovel/DanganRonpaZero'', ''VisualNovel/SuperDanganRonpa2'' and ''VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls'' is bound to get completely slipped up and lost over what the hell is going on.
31st Jul '16 3:35:00 AM Morgenthaler
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** Generally, webcomics having {{call back}}s isn't so rough because of their archives, but ''MSPA'' is one of the few webcomics (except, perhaps, the WalkyVerse) that requires you to read unrelated webcomics to get all the jokes. Want to understand why Jade is making jokes about pumpkins in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}''? What's up with Ace Dick's extended sideplot in the ''GameOfLife''? Well you had better read every badly-drawn, nonsensical corner of ''JailBreak''!

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** Generally, webcomics having {{call back}}s isn't so rough because of their archives, but ''MSPA'' is one of the few webcomics (except, perhaps, the WalkyVerse) that requires you to read unrelated webcomics to get all the jokes. Want to understand why Jade is making jokes about pumpkins in ''Webcomic/{{Homestuck}}''? What's up with Ace Dick's extended sideplot in the ''GameOfLife''? ''Webcomic/GameOfLife''? Well you had better read every badly-drawn, nonsensical corner of ''JailBreak''!''Webcomic/JailBreak''!
26th Jul '16 2:16:50 AM nicksplosivez
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* This happens to a certain degree in ''WesternAnimation/AdventureTime'', from season 3 onward, the show starts to do more world building, character arcs, and building up a continuity and very deep lore. One could still watch many episodes with little to no context, but to really enjoy the series, one must either have agood knowledge of the lore of the Land of Ooo, or watch the series from the beginning.
17th Jul '16 10:10:08 AM SofiaBlythe2012
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** MLP's sister show, ''WesternAnimation/LittlestPetShop2012'', is also starting to have lock-out too. With each passing season, the protagonist, Blythe Baxter, continues to move up in the fashion world and becomes increasingly famous, and those seasons' episodes that focus on that aspect of her are written with her then-current status in mind. There are also a handful of episodes that have the Biskit Twins as the antagonist with no explanation given as to why they are the DesignatedVillain; knowledge of their repeated attempts to sabotage Blythe is required.

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** * MLP's sister show, ''WesternAnimation/LittlestPetShop2012'', is also starting to have lock-out too. With each passing season, the protagonist, Blythe Baxter, continues to move up in the fashion world and becomes increasingly famous, and those seasons' episodes that focus on that aspect of her are written with her then-current status in mind. There are also a handful of episodes that have the Biskit Twins as the antagonist with no explanation given as to why they are the DesignatedVillain; knowledge of their repeated attempts to sabotage Blythe is required.
15th Jul '16 8:40:54 AM HumanTorch2
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* Later episodes of ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' suffer from a mild case of this condition at times (though it's understandable for a series in its 26th season). One particular gag involved Homer (accurately) daydreaming about a "think-tank", a joke which is probably funnier to longtime viewers than new ones.

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* Later episodes of ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons'' suffer from a mild case of this condition at times (though it's understandable for a series in that is about to begin its 26th 28th season). One particular gag involved Homer (accurately) daydreaming about a "think-tank", a joke which is probably funnier to longtime viewers than new ones.
10th Jul '16 5:53:09 AM DoctorNemesis
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** This trope is often blamed as one of the contributing factors to the cancellation of the original series. Amongst a lot of other issues that the show was facing at the time, the fact that a fairly large portion of the stories broadcast during the 1980s seemed to hinge upon the audience being aware of characters, events and storylines which hadn't been seen for upwards of ten or even twenty years didn't make the show any easier to watch. Matters weren't helped by the fact that this was well before VHS and DVD was prominent enough to allow [[BetterOnDVD people to catch up on the old stuff]], ''and'' that a lot of this old stuff had been deleted from the archives anyway, meaning that even if the technology had existed, the original material didn't. (An examination of the final seasons of the original series reveals much of this to be unfounded as other than one story - "Remembrance of the Daleks" - that is set around the time of the very first episode, there is actually very little in the last five seasons of the original series that requires viewer knowledge of older stories.)

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** This trope is often blamed as one of the contributing factors to the cancellation of the original series. Amongst a lot of other issues that the show was facing at the time, the fact that a fairly large portion of the stories broadcast during the early-to-mid 1980s seemed to hinge upon the audience being aware of characters, events and storylines which hadn't been seen for upwards of ten or even twenty years didn't make the show any easier to watch. Matters weren't helped by the fact that this was well before VHS and DVD was prominent enough to allow [[BetterOnDVD people to catch up on the old stuff]], ''and'' that a lot of this old stuff had been deleted from the archives anyway, meaning that even if the technology had existed, the original material didn't. (An examination of While the final seasons of the original series reveals much of show eventually got better about this and later stories tended to be unfounded as other than one story - "Remembrance of either downplay the Daleks" - that is set around continuity references or incorporate them more effectively (particularly during the time of 1987-1989 seasons), the very first episode, there is actually very little in damage had arguably been done since the last five seasons of the original series that requires viewer knowledge of older stories.)ratings had fallen drastically by this point.
8th Jul '16 10:01:12 AM kkhohoho
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This is one of the main bones of contention between creators and executives. Executives generally want each episode to potentially bring in new audience. Creators generally want to [[PanderingToTheBase entertain the audience they have]]. In a rare case of this wiki taking the side of the [[ExecutiveMeddling executive meddlers]], we have to admit that continuity lock-out is never caused by the execs. It has to be written.

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This is one of the main bones of contention between creators and executives. Executives generally want each episode to potentially bring in a new audience. Creators generally want to [[PanderingToTheBase entertain the audience they have]]. In a rare case of this wiki taking the side of the [[ExecutiveMeddling executive meddlers]], we have to admit that continuity lock-out is never caused by the execs. It has to be written.
3rd Jul '16 5:02:55 PM nombretomado
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* ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' eventually got this way, especially after the introduction of the on-line serials. The main story arcs tended to avoid this, but when former main characters that had been cast aside for years got back on stage, even that went messy. The whole storyline balanced on a thin line between trying to please the older fans and bring in fresh blood. This was probably one of the main reasons Franchise/{{LEGO}} decided to put the line on hiatus and bring in ''Franchise/HeroFactory'', which was much lighter on the story and had little to no continuity; and when [[Franchise/{{Bionicle2015}} it was brought back]] it was given a ContinuityReboot to help clear things up.

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* ''Franchise/{{Bionicle}}'' ''Toys/{{Bionicle}}'' eventually got this way, especially after the introduction of the on-line serials. The main story arcs tended to avoid this, but when former main characters that had been cast aside for years got back on stage, even that went messy. The whole storyline balanced on a thin line between trying to please the older fans and bring in fresh blood. This was probably one of the main reasons Franchise/{{LEGO}} decided to put the line on hiatus and bring in ''Franchise/HeroFactory'', which was much lighter on the story and had little to no continuity; and when [[Franchise/{{Bionicle2015}} it was brought back]] it was given a ContinuityReboot to help clear things up.
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