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9th Jan '17 12:13:53 PM urutapu
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** In the mini-series "ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice", suddenly, every single major character spends the entire series demanding "justice" without ever bothering to define what it means or how it's different from what the other heroes are already doing. Their actions are also closer to that of [[{{Revenge}} another concept]] altogether.
* ''Comicbook/AngelaMarvelComics'': its main character Angela, and by extension all Angels of Heven (this is the in comic spelling), says her culture centres around materialism and EquivalentExchange. Justice? Honor? Family? All those big and important words they translate to '''Nothing''' or to put it more flowery:

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** In the mini-series "ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice", "ComicBook/JusticeLeagueCryForJustice" , suddenly, every single major character spends the entire series demanding "justice" without ever bothering to define what it means or how it's different from what the other heroes are already doing. Their actions are also closer to that of [[{{Revenge}} another concept]] altogether.
altogether. Prometheus himself is the villain of the piece, funnily enough.
* ''Comicbook/AngelaMarvelComics'': its main character Angela, and by extension all Angels of Heven (this is the in comic in-comic spelling), says her culture centres around materialism and EquivalentExchange. Justice? Honor? Family? All those big and important words they translate to '''Nothing''' or to put it more flowery:
6th Dec '16 5:28:12 AM JamesAustin
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6th Dec '16 5:26:36 AM JamesAustin
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* ''{{Music/Evita}}'': Late in the film, when Eva [[spoiler:is dying]], she and her fascist dictator husband Juan start talking about how their "dream" may never come to pass. It's never really revealed what this dream was supposed to be, unless it turns out it was "Enjoy and abuse the Presidential office" (in which case, Mission Accomplished).

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* ''{{Music/Evita}}'': ''Music/{{Evita}}'': Late in the film, when Eva [[spoiler:is dying]], she and her fascist dictator president husband Juan start talking about how their "dream" may never come to pass. It's never really revealed what this dream was supposed to be, unless it turns out it was "Enjoy and abuse the perks the Presidential office" (in which case, Mission Accomplished).office."



* In ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' much of the plot is about Bruce exploring, discovering and refining his concept of justice and his boundaries (for example, Lucius challenges him on his decision to implement a nigh-omnipresent security system throughout Gotham and Bruce decides to retire it after the current crisis).

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* In ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' ''Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy'' much of the plot is about Bruce exploring, discovering and refining his concept of justice and his boundaries (for example, Lucius challenges him on his decision to implement a nigh-omnipresent security system throughout Gotham and Bruce decides to retire it after the current crisis).
20th Nov '16 7:24:13 AM eedwardgrey3
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* More politicians than not, if not all politicians.

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* More politicians than not, if not all politicians. [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glittering_generality See also]] TheOtherWiki.
5th Nov '16 5:23:07 AM elemt
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** Obi-Wan declares his loyalty not to any political party or leader, but to 'democracy'.
29th Oct '16 12:19:02 PM nombretomado
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* Parodied in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII'' on the [[GTARadio Chatterbox radio station]]. A guy by the name of "Jeff" calls in, advertising a rally at Liberty City Park. However, when the show's host asks what the rally's actually about, Jeff responds with an escalation of otherwise meaningless phrases and appeals, including "for justice" "for the future", and "for hope". The host continues asking, only to be met with more cheap concepts and pleas for attendance, until it turns out the guy doesn't know what it's about.

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* Parodied in ''VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII'' on the [[GTARadio [[Radio/GTARadio Chatterbox radio station]]. A guy by the name of "Jeff" calls in, advertising a rally at Liberty City Park. However, when the show's host asks what the rally's actually about, Jeff responds with an escalation of otherwise meaningless phrases and appeals, including "for justice" "for the future", and "for hope". The host continues asking, only to be met with more cheap concepts and pleas for attendance, until it turns out the guy doesn't know what it's about.
23rd Oct '16 1:57:04 PM Kid
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* In ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' much of the plot is about Bruce exploring, discovering and refining his concept of justice and his boundaries. (for example, Lucius challenges him on his decision to implement a nigh-omnipresent security system throughout Gotham and Bruce decides to retire it after the current crisis).

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* In ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' much of the plot is about Bruce exploring, discovering and refining his concept of justice and his boundaries. boundaries (for example, Lucius challenges him on his decision to implement a nigh-omnipresent security system throughout Gotham and Bruce decides to retire it after the current crisis).
23rd Oct '16 1:55:36 PM Kid
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* ''Film/{{Braveheart}}'' speaks a lot about "OUR FREEDOM!" with only a couple of lines giving context they were fighting for ("beg forgiveness for a hundred years of theft, rape, and murder"[[note]]The thirteenth century was a fairly peaceful one for Anglo-Scots relations; shortly prior to the war, there had even been talks of uniting the two countries via royal marriage- 300 years before James VI/I. A few unfortunate deaths in the Scottish royal family changed that.[[/note]]). Although movie-Wallace's crusade just started out as an act of personal revenge against the man who killed his wife, then somehow morphed into "Freedom for UsefulNotes/{{Scotland}}".

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* ''Film/{{Braveheart}}'' speaks a lot about "OUR FREEDOM!" with only a couple of lines giving context they were fighting for ("beg forgiveness for a hundred years of theft, rape, and murder"[[note]]The thirteenth century was a fairly peaceful one for Anglo-Scots relations; shortly prior to the war, there had even been talks of uniting the two countries via royal marriage- 300 marriage--300 years before James VI/I. A few unfortunate deaths in the Scottish royal family changed that.[[/note]]). Although movie-Wallace's crusade just started out as an act of personal revenge against the man who killed his wife, then somehow morphed into "Freedom for UsefulNotes/{{Scotland}}".
22nd Sep '16 8:38:41 AM Eyeshield
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** The trope is deconstructed by showing that while simply throwing the words around with no meaning is indeed cheap, the base concept of trying to save people is indeed beautiful. Shirou then decides to avert Archer's biggest flaw in order to not become his future self: Being a perfectionist. You can't save everybody, but trying isn't a bad thing at all.

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** The trope is deconstructed by showing that while simply throwing the words around with no meaning is indeed cheap, the base concept of trying to save people is indeed beautiful. Shirou then decides to avert Archer's biggest flaw in order to [[spoiler: not become his future self: self]]: Being a perfectionist. You can't save everybody, but trying isn't a bad thing at all.
22nd Sep '16 8:32:37 AM Eyeshield
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** The trope is deconstructed by showing that while simply throwing the words around with no meaning is indeed cheap, the base concept of trying to save people is indeed beautiful. Shirou then decides to avert Archer's biggest flaw in order to not become his future self: Being a perfectionist. You can't save everybody, but trying isn't a bad thing at all.
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