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22nd Aug '16 12:53:17 PM audriuska12
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Frequently happens when a MagnificentBastard plays the EnigmaticMinion. See ReliableTraitor for a possible reason why the character can continue to find work. Related to TheStarscream, except that that character type ''doesn't'' succeed (most of the time, anyways, and when they do, they usually don't get to revel in it for long). These characters are also commonly ChaoticNeutral, ChaoticEvil, ChaoticStupid, StupidEvil, or StupidNeutral (lawful and/or good characters tend to see betrayal as a big no-no, and NeutralEvil characters (probably) won't betray their current allies just for the hell of it). Often a characteristic of TheStarscream who has his own ruling plans but just as often an OpportunisticBastard who doesn't mind being a follower and living in the shadow of the strongest side.

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Frequently happens when a MagnificentBastard plays the EnigmaticMinion. See ReliableTraitor for a possible reason why the character can continue to find work. Related to TheStarscream, except that that character type ''doesn't'' succeed (most of the time, anyways, and when they do, they usually don't get to revel in it for long). These characters are also commonly ChaoticNeutral, ChaoticEvil, ChaoticStupid, StupidEvil, or StupidNeutral (lawful and/or good characters tend to see betrayal as a big no-no, and NeutralEvil characters (probably) won't betray their current allies just for the hell of it). Often a characteristic of TheStarscream who has his own ruling plans but just as often an OpportunisticBastard who doesn't mind being a follower and living in the shadow of the strongest side.
16th Aug '16 12:09:53 AM PaulA
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* ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga A Civil Campaign]]'': Byerly Vorrutyer, the man-about-town and general political stirrer. He has motives so indiscernible that it's very hard to tell exactly who he's actually betraying, and whether he's a double agent, triple agent... or what, really. [[spoiler: Actually working for the government. We ''think''.]]
-->'''Ivan''':"You've lied and you're lying, but I can't tell about ''what''. You make my head hurt. I'm about to share the sensation."
** It's strongly implied that Byerly's contact/handler is [[spoiler: Ivan's own mother]], opening a new can of fractal worms in Ivan's suddenly illuminated head. Cue spit-take.
** Another implied possibility is that his "blind drop" is [[spoiler: Ivan himself]] (making the drop REALLY blind).
** In ''The Vor Game'' we meet a more pathological version in Commander Cavilo. Having already [[TheVamp vamped]] her way into command of a mercenary warfleet; she gets hired by a planet during a staredown with a rival, sells them out to the [[TheEmpire Cetagandan Empire]], then backstabs both the Cetagandans and her own fleet for a chance at seducing the Barrayaran Emperor Gregor (who had slipped out of TheChainsOfCommanding after a drunken, halfhearted suicide attempt) into making her his [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen consort]]. It is mentioned (though not by name) as being her downfall. If she had stuck with one plan, any plan, she could have probably pulled it off. But she's unwilling to follow through when she thinks something better comes along.
** Miles (the series' protagonist) himself seems to suffer from a variant of this disorder (which is lampshaded in the series, especially ''The Vor Game'' and ''Memory''). Rather than intentionally betraying allies and neutrals, he makes commitments (implicit or explicit) which he later can't fulfill without breaking another one. (He doesn't ''want'' to betray people, and he generally manages to juggle responsibilities and deceive people until he finds a solution. However, his skill at avoiding having to follow through with the final outright backstab doesn't prevent the lead-up from being its own form of betrayal.) The pattern is most clearly (and avoidably) showcased in the first book ''The Warrior's Apprentice''.

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* ''[[Literature/VorkosiganSaga A Civil Campaign]]'': ''Literature/VorkosiganSaga'':
** ''Literature/ACivilCampaign'':
Byerly Vorrutyer, the man-about-town and general political stirrer. He has motives so indiscernible that it's very hard to tell exactly who he's actually betraying, and whether he's a double agent, triple agent... or what, really. [[spoiler: Actually [[spoiler:Actually working for the government. We ''think''.]]
-->'''Ivan''':"You've --->'''Ivan:''' You've lied and you're lying, but I can't tell about ''what''. You make my head hurt. I'm about to share the sensation."
** It's strongly implied that Byerly's contact/handler is [[spoiler: Ivan's own mother]], opening a new can of fractal worms in Ivan's suddenly illuminated head. Cue spit-take.
** Another implied possibility is that his "blind drop" is [[spoiler: Ivan himself]] (making the drop REALLY blind).
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** In ''The Vor Game'' ''Literature/TheVorGame'' we meet a more pathological version in Commander Cavilo. Having already [[TheVamp vamped]] her way into command of a mercenary warfleet; warfleet, she gets hired by a planet during a staredown with a rival, sells them out to the [[TheEmpire Cetagandan Empire]], then backstabs both the Cetagandans and her own fleet for a chance at seducing the Barrayaran Emperor Gregor (who had slipped out of TheChainsOfCommanding after a drunken, halfhearted suicide attempt) into making her his [[GodSaveUsFromTheQueen consort]]. It is mentioned (though not by name) as being her downfall. If she had stuck with one plan, any plan, she could have probably pulled it off. But she's unwilling to follow through when she thinks something better comes along.
** Miles (the series' protagonist) himself seems to suffer from a variant of this disorder (which is lampshaded in the series, especially ''The Vor Game'' ''Literature/TheVorGame'' and ''Memory'').''Literature/{{Memory}}''). Rather than intentionally betraying allies and neutrals, he makes commitments (implicit or explicit) which he later can't fulfill without breaking another one. (He doesn't ''want'' to betray people, and he generally manages to juggle responsibilities and deceive people until he finds a solution. However, his skill at avoiding having to follow through with the final outright backstab doesn't prevent the lead-up from being its own form of betrayal.) The pattern is most clearly (and avoidably) showcased in the first book ''The Warrior's Apprentice''.featuring him, ''Literature/TheWarriorsApprentice''.
13th Aug '16 8:04:31 PM Choombi
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In WebAnimation/TheHistoryOfEurope, thinking the nation that just helped you in the last war is your true friend is a sure recipee for an untimely death, especially notable is [[spoiler:Persia for invading Thrace]] after the latter asked him for help.
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12th Aug '16 9:45:48 PM nombretomado
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* Anyone who forms a pact with the demon lord of betrayal is kind of obligated to act this way in TheDarkEye. Even if they don't want to...

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* Anyone who forms a pact with the demon lord of betrayal is kind of obligated to act this way in TheDarkEye.''TabletopGame/TheDarkEye''. Even if they don't want to...
9th Aug '16 9:13:43 AM Luc
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*** While Kabuto did remain completely loyal to Orochimaru, at one point Orochimaru was uncertain whether this was the case. He didn't mind, though. Instead, he just thought it'd be amusing to watch and see whether Kabuto betrayed him like he does everyone else.

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*** While Kabuto did remain completely loyal to Orochimaru, at one point Orochimaru was uncertain whether this was the case. He didn't mind, though. Instead, he just thought it'd be amusing to watch and see whether Kabuto betrayed him like he does everyone else. (Given Kabuto's history, this ''may'' have been the right way to handle the situation--Konoha (in the form of Danzo) betrayed him first.)
22nd Jul '16 4:56:28 PM vtarira
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* ''Film/IronMan1'': Stane plotted from the beginning of the movie to eliminate Tony so he could seize the company and engage in any sort of weapon deals he wanted. However, he also turns his back on [[spoiler:the terrorists who he was paying]] later in the film to get his hands on the Mk. 1 suit they recovered from the desert. They had mildly backstabbed him also when they learned their captive was Tony Stark, causing them [[spoiler:to keep him alive so he could build them a missile instead of killing him]] like they'd been ordered to.

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* ''Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse'':
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''Film/IronMan1'': Stane plotted from the beginning of the movie to eliminate Tony so he could seize the company and engage in any sort of weapon deals he wanted. However, he also turns his back on [[spoiler:the terrorists who he was paying]] later in the film to get his hands on the Mk. 1 suit they recovered from the desert. They had mildly backstabbed him also when they learned their captive was Tony Stark, causing them [[spoiler:to keep him alive so he could build them a missile instead of killing him]] like they'd been ordered to.to.
** Like the comic book character he is based upon, Loki from ''Thor'' is prone to this sort of behavior. In the first film in which he appears, he [[spoiler: lets enemies into his family's weapons' vault, attempts to kill his adoptive brother, and tricks an enemy king (who is also his biological father) into trying to kill his adoptive father, only to kill him in order to prove his loyalty to said adoptive father.]] Ironically, in that first movie he seemed to be motivated, at least in part, by [[WellIntentionedExtremist loyalty towards Asgard,]] [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds and desperation to prove that he was a good son.]]
** Black Widow has this (or the appearance of it) as one of her preferred MO's. She's pretty consistently on Nick Fury's side but otherwise she has no problem not doing what her allies want, even if she genuinely likes them. In ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'', Steve gets angry at her for [[spoiler:going off mission to get the Lemurian Star data, which we later learn counts as backstabbing SHIELD]] and in ''[[Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar Civil War]]'', Tony accuses her of [[spoiler:being this on a fundamental level after she switches sides during the airport fight and lets Steve and Bucky get away, though after the events of ''Winter Soldier'' it comes across [[ConflictingLoyalty more sympathetically]] to the audience]].



* Like the comic book character he is based upon, Loki from ''Thor'' is prone to this sort of behavior. In the first film in which he appears, he [[spoiler: lets enemies into his family's weapons' vault, attempts to kill his adoptive brother, and tricks an enemy king (who is also his biological father) into trying to kill his adoptive father, only to kill him in order to prove his loyalty to said adoptive father.]] Ironically, in that first movie he seemed to be motivated, at least in part, by [[WellIntentionedExtremist loyalty towards Asgard,]] [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds and desperation to prove that he was a good son.]]
22nd Jul '16 12:44:26 PM DaveE
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** In the same continuity, Starscream actually remained uncharacteristically loyal to Megatron early on, only assuming command once Megs was incapacitated and ceding it back with minimal violence. Once the war ended though, Starscream reverted to type, running a series of power grabs and quiet murders to make himself ''the elected ruler of Cybertron''. Eventually Starscream's absolute rule got nerfed somewhat when a multi-planet council of Cybertronians was formed with lost Transformer colonies. The result is a government where everyone expects Starscream to be treacherous and self-serving and works around it with their own plots. It functions surprisingly well.
** Galvatron has also proven treacherous in this continuity, although his betrayals have been retconned so much that they're hard to keep straight. He's also prone to [[TouchedByVorlons fits of insanity]] that skew his loyalties.
16th Jul '16 6:39:10 AM Nyao
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* ''Franchise/MortalKombat's'' Tanya either betrays or seeks to betray every master she works for.

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* ''Franchise/MortalKombat's'' Tanya is a known sufferer, who's known to either betrays betray or seeks intending to betray every master she works for.



** Rain continually stabs his allies in the back in order to gain recognition and power. Even after the ResetButton he's still up to his old antics. His Arcade Ladder ending in ''VideoGame/MortalKombat9'' has him [[spoiler:betray Shao Kahn for not giving him an army but then turn around and used the army he took from Shao Kahn to overthrow Earthrealm, where Raiden was grateful for his suppression of Outworld]]. In ''Mortal Kombat X'' he [[spoiler:gave Mileena the idea to steal Shinnok's amulet but is only doing it because he knows that whenever she uses it, it will drain her of life. Once the amulet completely kills her, he will step in and finish the job, making himself the emperor of Outworld in the process]].

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** Rain continually stabs himself is pretty bad about it too, stabbing his allies in the back in order to gain recognition and power. Even after the ResetButton he's still up to his old antics. His Arcade Ladder ending in ''VideoGame/MortalKombat9'' has him [[spoiler:betray Shao Kahn for not giving him an army but then turn around and used the army he took from Shao Kahn to overthrow Earthrealm, where Raiden was grateful for his suppression of Outworld]]. In ''Mortal Kombat X'' he [[spoiler:gave Mileena the idea to steal Shinnok's amulet but is only doing it because he knows that whenever she uses it, it will drain her of life. Once the amulet completely kills her, he will step in and finish the job, making himself the emperor of Outworld in the process]].
11th Jul '16 12:58:21 PM YourDoom
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* Expected in ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' for adventuring parties that aren't that experienced. It often takes new players some time to realize that betraying their comrades is not a good idea. Thieves, in particular, are always expected to back-stab or steal from the rest of their party.
11th Jul '16 9:58:15 AM Morgenthaler
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* Matt Morgan in TNA, for a while. He turned on Abyss, he turned on Hernandez, he turned on Immortal... it took until 2012 for [[RedHeadedHero Crim]][[InvincibleHero son]] to turn on him. It seems only a matter of when he and Wrestling/JoeyRyan will break up.

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* Matt Morgan in TNA, for a while. He turned on Abyss, he turned on Hernandez, he turned on Immortal... it took until 2012 for [[RedHeadedHero Crim]][[InvincibleHero son]] [[InvincibleHero Crimson]] to turn on him. It seems only a matter of when he and Wrestling/JoeyRyan will break up.
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