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26th Jul '17 2:11:45 PM Franco-America2018
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* Played straight in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', in which the only church in the wasteland is the heavily Catholic-influenced Church of St. Monica. Averted in the ''Honest Hearts'' DLC for ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', where the devoutly religious New Canaanites belong to the LDS Church. The religion of the tribes living in the Zion Valley is a blend of LDS beliefs and native animistic beliefs. When the first New Caananite missionaries came to Zion, the tribes conflated God the Father with their chief spirit, The Father in the Caves.

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* Played straight in ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', in which the only church in the wasteland is the heavily Catholic-influenced Church of St. Monica. Averted in the ''Honest Hearts'' DLC for ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', where the devoutly religious New Canaanites belong to remains of the LDS Church. The religion of the tribes living in the Zion Valley is a [[InterfaithSmoothie blend of LDS beliefs and native animistic beliefs.beliefs]]. When the first New Caananite missionaries came to Zion, the tribes conflated God the Father with their chief spirit, The Father in the Caves.



* Averted in ''VideoGame/CrusaderKingsII''. While the base game focuses on the crusading Catholics, the game features all 4 major branches of Christianity of the time (Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Miaphysitism, and Nestorianism; Protestantism post-dates the gameplay period by a century) as playable religions; however, Catholicism and Orthodoxy are by far the most widely spread branches of the Christian faith. They also have a bunch of historical heresies (e.x Catharism for Catholicism, Iconoclasm for Orthodoxy), which, if powerful enough, can become the new main faith of their branch. Also, the Byzantine/Roman Emperor can mend the Great Schism event[[note]]If Byzantine Empire control all four other holy sites[[/note]], turning Catholicism into a new Orthodox heresy[[note]]other three heresies in-universe are Bogomilism, Monothelitism, and Paulicanism[[/note]], effectively turning the trope into ''Christianity Is Orthodox'' in-universe instead.

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* Averted in ''VideoGame/CrusaderKingsII''. While the base game focuses on the crusading Catholics, the game features all 4 major branches of Christianity of the time (Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Miaphysitism, and Nestorianism; Protestantism post-dates the gameplay period by a century) as playable religions; however, Catholicism and Orthodoxy are by far the most widely spread branches of the Christian faith. They also have a bunch of historical heresies (e.x Catharism for Catholicism, Iconoclasm for Orthodoxy), which, if powerful enough, can become the new main faith of their branch. Also, there DLC ''Legacy of Rome'' have the Byzantine/Roman Emperor can mend the Great Schism event[[note]]If Byzantine Empire control all four other important holy sites[[/note]], cities/sites beside Constantinople[[/note]], turning Catholicism into a new Orthodox heresy[[note]]other three more heresies in-universe are Bogomilism, Monothelitism, and Paulicanism[[/note]], effectively turning the trope into ''Christianity Is Orthodox'' in-universe instead.
25th Jul '17 7:19:22 PM Mephistopheles
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* Lampshaded in Dan Simmons ''Summer of Night'':

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* Lampshaded in Dan Simmons ''Summer of Night'':Creator/DanSimmons ''Literature/SummerOfNight'':
25th Jul '17 6:44:06 PM Franco-America2018
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* [[AllThereInTheManual Not that this is in any way represented in-game]], but the backstory of ''VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars'' uses this trope. Justified by having the human race decimated by a bombardment, by the first Aliens encountered, in the back-story. Catholicism is described as having eight billion adherents, and is being exported to the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Tarka]] who find the idea of a self-sacrificing peaceful god to be interesting.
* Pretty much the entire ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'' series is steeped in Catholic cosmetics to the point of it being half the setting. Huge hats, abbeys and cathedrals everywhere, nuns, Knights Templar, saving your game via confession. The plots of games 8 and 9 revolve almost entirely around Catholic-themed culture, and take it in [[CorruptChurch exact]] [[SaintlyChurch opposite]] directions respectively.
* ''VideoGame/LoveAndWar'' has the Church of Infinity, which could honestly be viewed as an {{Expy}} of the Catholic Church. They have their own country, just like the real-world Vatican; their head is the Pontiff; their current pontiff is called Pious XXI; and their bishops, archbishops and nuns wear traditionally Catholic outfits. In the remake, Henrik Spenson, who is a member, even has a cross, or perhaps a rosary, in his room.

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* [[AllThereInTheManual Not that this is in any way represented in-game]], but the backstory of ''VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars'' uses this trope. Justified by having the human race decimated by a bombardment, by the first Aliens encountered, in the back-story. Catholicism is described as having eight billion adherents, adherents and is being exported to the [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Tarka]] who find the idea of a self-sacrificing peaceful god to be interesting.
* Pretty much the entire ''VideoGame/DragonQuest'' series is steeped in Catholic cosmetics to the point of it being half the setting. set. Huge hats, abbeys abbeys, and cathedrals everywhere, nuns, Knights Templar, saving your game via confession. The plots of games 8 and 9 revolve almost entirely around Catholic-themed culture, culture and take it in [[CorruptChurch exact]] [[SaintlyChurch opposite]] directions respectively.
* ''VideoGame/LoveAndWar'' has the Church of Infinity, which could honestly be viewed as an {{Expy}} of the Catholic Church. They have their own country, just like the real-world Vatican; their head is the Pontiff; their current pontiff is called Pious XXI; and their bishops, archbishops archbishops, and nuns wear traditionally Catholic outfits. In the remake, Henrik Spenson, who is a member, even has a cross, or perhaps a rosary, in his room.



* The ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' series has many Catholic-ish cathedrals, churches, shrines and altars you walk through on your quest. This is especially prevalent in the third installment. [[spoiler: Not to mention that there's a boss in Dark Souls III named ''Pontiff'' Sulyvahn]].
* Averted in ''VideoGame/CrusaderKingsII''. While the base game focuses on the crusading Catholics, the game features all 4 major branches of Christianity of the time (Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Miaphysitism and Nestorianism; Protestantism post-dates the gameplay period by a century) as playable religions; however, Catholicism and Orthodoxy are by far the most widely spread branches of the christian faith. They also have a bunch of historical heresies (Catharism for Catholicism, Iconoclasm for Orthodoxy), which, if powerful enough, can become the new main faith of their branch. Also, the Byzantine/Roman Emperor can mend the Great Schism, turning Catholicism into a heresy, effectively turning the trope into "Christianity Is Orthodox" in-universe.

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* The ''VideoGame/DarkSouls'' series has many Catholic-ish cathedrals, churches, shrines shrines, and altars you walk through on your quest. This is especially prevalent in the third installment. [[spoiler: Not to mention that there's a boss in Dark Souls III named ''Pontiff'' Sulyvahn]].
* Averted in ''VideoGame/CrusaderKingsII''. While the base game focuses on the crusading Catholics, the game features all 4 major branches of Christianity of the time (Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Miaphysitism Miaphysitism, and Nestorianism; Protestantism post-dates the gameplay period by a century) as playable religions; however, Catholicism and Orthodoxy are by far the most widely spread branches of the christian Christian faith. They also have a bunch of historical heresies (Catharism (e.x Catharism for Catholicism, Iconoclasm for Orthodoxy), which, if powerful enough, can become the new main faith of their branch. Also, the Byzantine/Roman Emperor can mend the Great Schism, Schism event[[note]]If Byzantine Empire control all four other holy sites[[/note]], turning Catholicism into a heresy, new Orthodox heresy[[note]]other three heresies in-universe are Bogomilism, Monothelitism, and Paulicanism[[/note]], effectively turning the trope into "Christianity ''Christianity Is Orthodox" in-universe.Orthodox'' in-universe instead.



* ''Webcomic/TheFoxSister'': Averted with Alex Martin being Methodist missionary for Cho Yun Hee to understand by telling her necklace differences and calling as a misconception [[note]]likely due to Catholic Church are first ones bring Christianity to Korea[[/note]].

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* ''Webcomic/TheFoxSister'': Averted with Alex Martin being Methodist missionary for Cho Yun Hee to understand by telling her necklace differences and calling as a misconception [[note]]likely to Christians[[note]]Is likely due to Catholic Church are first ones bring Christianity to Korea[[/note]].
25th Jul '17 6:33:03 PM Franco-America2018
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* ''Webcomic/TheFoxSister'': Averted with Alex being Methodist.

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* ''Webcomic/TheFoxSister'': Averted with Alex Martin being Methodist.Methodist missionary for Cho Yun Hee to understand by telling her necklace differences and calling as a misconception [[note]]likely due to Catholic Church are first ones bring Christianity to Korea[[/note]].



* It is very common in Website/YouTube videos and photo websites purporting to show photographic evidence of Vatican involvement in the Third Reich to include photos of Protestant Reich Churches, and Protestant clergy and worshipers, (often of the Deutsche Christen, DC, variety). Probably the most infamous person whose website features this would be [[http://alamoministries.com/content/english/Antichrist/nazigallery/photogallery.html Tony Alamo]] (though his infamy is for [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Alamo#Controversies unrelated reasons]]). That page is pretty humorous if you are aware that the most common subject of the photographs, [[http://www.claremontmckenna.edu/hist/jpetropoulos/church/keithpage/protesta.htm#The%20Protestant%20Church%20and%20the%20Third%20Reich Ludwig Muller]] was the most powerful Protestant in Nazi Germany. For a political analogy, it would be like if a German made a website denouncing the US Democratic Party, but then put a bunch of pictures of Bush on it (and compensated for this by inserting the word Democrat before President Bush every time in the caption to fool unknowledgable viewers). Also, with Muller on the top left (and in the right photo as well), and Protestant Bishop [[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Coch Friedrich Coch]] on the top right, it means the top features on the "Nazi Catholic Vaticanites" website are, in reality, solely prominent ''Protestants''.

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* It is very common in Website/YouTube videos and photo websites purporting to show photographic evidence of Vatican involvement in the Third Reich to include photos of Protestant Reich Churches, and Protestant clergy and worshipers, (often of the Deutsche Christen, DC, variety). Probably the most infamous person whose website features this would be [[http://alamoministries.com/content/english/Antichrist/nazigallery/photogallery.html Tony Alamo]] (though his infamy is for [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Alamo#Controversies unrelated reasons]]). That page is pretty humorous if you are aware that the most common subject of the photographs, [[http://www.claremontmckenna.edu/hist/jpetropoulos/church/keithpage/protesta.htm#The%20Protestant%20Church%20and%20the%20Third%20Reich Ludwig Muller]] was the most powerful Protestant in Nazi Germany. For a political analogy, it would be like if a German made a website denouncing the US Democratic Party, but then put a bunch of pictures of Bush on it (and compensated for this by inserting the word Democrat before President Bush every time in the caption to fool unknowledgable unknowledgeable viewers). Also, with Muller on the top left (and in the right photo as well), and Protestant Bishop [[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Coch Friedrich Coch]] on the top right, it means the top features on the "Nazi Catholic Vaticanites" website are, in reality, solely prominent ''Protestants''.
30th Jun '17 3:07:18 AM fishspill
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Any time you see Christianity displayed onscreen, there's a strong chance it'll feature exclusively or almost-exclusively Catholic trappings, such as rosaries, the Sign of the Cross, confessional booths, nuns, clerics referred to as "Father", and so on. It could be because Roman Catholicism is the largest branch of Christianity in the world, or it might be because the costumes of Roman Catholic clerics are so [[AwesomeAnachronisticApparel quaint]] and [[GorgeousPeriodDress distinctive]], or perhaps it's the fascination of [[RuleOfSymbolism the mystery and ritual]], or maybe its our bewilderment of priests, monks, and nuns taking a [[CelibateHero vow of celibacy]], or that those [[CreepyCathedral ornate and massive Catholic churches make the most awesome sets]], or the usefulness of the [[{{Confessional}} sacrament of confession]] as a narrative device.

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Any time you see Christianity displayed onscreen, there's a strong chance it'll feature exclusively or almost-exclusively Catholic trappings, such as rosaries, the Sign of the Cross, confessional booths, nuns, clerics referred to as "Father", and so on. It could be because Roman Catholicism is the largest branch of Christianity in the world, or it might be because the costumes vestments of Roman Catholic clerics are so [[AwesomeAnachronisticApparel quaint]] and [[GorgeousPeriodDress distinctive]], or perhaps it's the fascination of [[RuleOfSymbolism the mystery and ritual]], or maybe its our bewilderment of priests, monks, and nuns taking a [[CelibateHero vow of celibacy]], or that those [[CreepyCathedral ornate and massive Catholic churches make the most awesome sets]], or the usefulness of the [[{{Confessional}} sacrament of confession]] as a narrative device.
8th Apr '17 11:16:28 AM lillolillo
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* ''[[LightNovel/MariaSamaGaMiteru Maria-sama Ga Miteru]]'' is set at a Catholic school. So is ''LightNovel/StrawberryPanic''.

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* ''[[LightNovel/MariaSamaGaMiteru Maria-sama Ga Miteru]]'' is set at a Catholic school. school.
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So is ''LightNovel/StrawberryPanic''.



* ''Film/EndOfDays'', of course ''Film/{{Stigmata}}'', ''Film/TheSinEater''...

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* ''Film/EndOfDays'', of course ''Film/{{Stigmata}}'', ''Film/TheSinEater''...''The Sin Eater''...



* In the Creator/JohnCarpenter film ''Film/PrinceOfDarkness'', the Catholic Church was founded to protect the secret calculus formula of Jesus that proved the existence of the Anti-God, until humanity had developed the mathematics to understand it. Wonder how the Reformation fit into those plans. By the way, in his ''Vampires'' the vampire hunters are funded by the Catholic Church.

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* In the Creator/JohnCarpenter film ''Film/PrinceOfDarkness'', the Catholic Church was founded to protect the secret calculus formula of Jesus that proved the existence of the Anti-God, until humanity had developed the mathematics to understand it. Wonder how the Reformation fit into those plans. By the way, in his ''Vampires'' the vampire hunters are funded by the Catholic Church.
6th Apr '17 4:15:57 PM karstovich2
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* In Europe it's not uncommon to see things that to an outside eye look very Catholic despite the fact that the Church in question is Protestant, especially if we're talking about a state church with its roots in the Renaissance. For example, Church of Sweden, which is Lutheran, has priests, not pastors or ministers or reverends, and it doesn't shun away from crucifixes at all, it rather likes them. The reason for this is simple: Church of Sweden is what remained of the Swedish part of the Catholic Church in 1536 when King Gustav I had severed all ties with Rome and in the process robbed it blind. But he didn't want to destroy the organisation itself, or change it more than necessary, it was an effective administrative organisation and he was after all its new ultimate boss, having the archbishop answering to him instead of the Pope and all. (Pretty much the same as over in England, reading "King Henry VIII" for "King Gustav I.")

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* In Europe it's not uncommon to see things that to an outside eye look very Catholic despite the fact that the Church in question is Protestant, especially if we're talking about a state church with its roots in the Renaissance. For example, Church of Sweden, which is Lutheran, has priests, not pastors or ministers or reverends, and it doesn't shun away from crucifixes at all, it rather likes them. The reason for this is simple: Church of Sweden is what remained of the Swedish part of the Catholic Church in 1536 when King Gustav I had severed all ties with Rome and in the process robbed it blind. But he didn't want to destroy the organisation itself, or change it more than necessary, it was an effective administrative organisation and he was after all its new ultimate boss, having the archbishop answering to him instead of the Pope and all. (Pretty much the same as over in England, reading "King Henry VIII" for "King Gustav I.")I", but without all the soap opera drama of the lack of a male heir and too many wives...)
6th Apr '17 1:53:14 PM Mdumas43073
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* Garrison Keillor's "News from Lake Wobegon" anecdotes from ''Radio/APrairieHomeCompanion'' often allude to the relationship between the town's Lutherans and Catholics, and if anything the trope is inverted; Keillor has joked that "Even the Catholics up here are Lutheran." That's probably because they're ''German'' Catholics, and thus have more in common ethnically with the German-descended Lutherans[[note]]although, in truth, more Minnesota Lutherans are of Scandanavian than German descent[[/note]] than with other breeds of Catholic.

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* Garrison Keillor's "News from Lake Wobegon" anecdotes from ''Radio/APrairieHomeCompanion'' often allude to the relationship between the town's Lutherans and Catholics, and if anything the trope is inverted; Keillor has joked that "Even the Catholics up here are Lutheran." That's probably because they're ''German'' Catholics, and thus have more in common ethnically with the German-descended Lutherans[[note]]although, Lutherans than with other breeds of Catholic.[[note]]Although, in truth, more Minnesota Lutherans are of Scandanavian than German descent[[/note]] than with other breeds of Catholic.descent.[[/note]]
6th Apr '17 1:51:46 PM Mdumas43073
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* Garrison Keillor's "News from Lake Wobegon" anecdotes from ''Radio/APrairieHomeCompanion'' often allude to the relationship between the town's Lutherans and Catholics, and if anything the trope is inverted; Keillor has joked that "Even the Catholics up here are Lutheran." That's probably because they're ''German'' Catholics, and thus have more in common ethnically with the Norwegian/Swedish/Danish-descended Lutherans than with other breeds of Catholic.

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* Garrison Keillor's "News from Lake Wobegon" anecdotes from ''Radio/APrairieHomeCompanion'' often allude to the relationship between the town's Lutherans and Catholics, and if anything the trope is inverted; Keillor has joked that "Even the Catholics up here are Lutheran." That's probably because they're ''German'' Catholics, and thus have more in common ethnically with the Norwegian/Swedish/Danish-descended German-descended Lutherans[[note]]although, in truth, more Minnesota Lutherans are of Scandanavian than German descent[[/note]] than with other breeds of Catholic.
6th Apr '17 1:30:55 PM Mdumas43073
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This trope doesn't seem to apply to [[TheWestern Westerns]], where any minister (or "preacher") will generally be a black-coated Evangelical Lutheran or Methodist type, when he isn't a Quaker or a Mormon. However, if the film shows the padre of a [[UsefulNotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] village, this trope will be played straight--although frankly [[JustifiedTrope this was usually true]]. It may also appear as part of an EstablishingShot for other traditionally Catholic places such as Italy or France. African-American churches are almost always depicted as Baptist or Pentecostal, as are white [[DeepSouth Southern]] churches (the one exception being UsefulNotes/NewOrleans, home to the largest Catholic diocese in the United States). And the upper-class WhiteAngloSaxonProtestant, usually residing in the tonier precincts of HollywoodNewEngland and belonging to one of the more venerable "mainline" denominations such as the Episcopal Church,[[note]]Episcopalians have long been a popular choice for writers wishing to show Catholic-style liturgy and aesthetics without the strict lifestyle requirements, or "Catholic Lite" as Creator/RobinWilliams once called it[[/note]] is a stock character of long standing.

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This trope doesn't seem to apply to [[TheWestern Westerns]], where any minister (or "preacher") will generally be a black-coated Evangelical Lutheran or Methodist type, when he isn't a Quaker or a Mormon. However, if the film shows the padre of a [[UsefulNotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] village, this trope will be played straight--although frankly [[JustifiedTrope this was usually true]]. It may also appear as part of an EstablishingShot for other traditionally Catholic places such as Italy or France. African-American churches are almost always depicted as Baptist or Pentecostal, as are white [[DeepSouth Southern]] churches (the one exception being UsefulNotes/NewOrleans, home to the largest Catholic diocese in the United States).U.S.). And the upper-class WhiteAngloSaxonProtestant, usually residing in the tonier precincts of HollywoodNewEngland and belonging to one of the more venerable "mainline" denominations such as the Episcopal Church,[[note]]Episcopalians have long been a popular choice for writers wishing to show Catholic-style liturgy and aesthetics without the strict lifestyle requirements, or "Catholic Lite" as Creator/RobinWilliams once called it[[/note]] is a stock character of long standing.
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