History Main / ChristianityIsCatholic

25th May '18 1:06:57 PM JamesA807
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' is an egregious example. Every inhabitant of South Park who is not Jewish is Catholic; there are no explicitly Protestant characters (in Real Life Colorado, the State South Park is located in, ''44%'' of the population is Protestant, only ''19%'' is Catholic). But most annoying of all, the show sometimes mock beliefs and ideas that are presented as "Catholic" even though they are, in fact, held by some Protestants but not by the Catholic Church. For instance, they repeatedly assume that the Catholic Church is "against the theory of evolution" which is not the case (see Pius XII' "Humani Generis" (1950) and other declarations by his successors). This can be attributed to series co-creator Trey Parker being RaisedCatholic.
** Other gaffes include all the men in town dressing up in ''Ku Klux Klan robes'' (the Klan is a strongly anti-Catholic group) to scare away black families moving into the area (although one of those men was a practicing Jew anyway, so that gag could have just been for RuleOfFunny) and a visiting character from New England referring to the townspeople as "hick jock redneck stereotypes," which would ordinarily denote Protestants.

to:

* ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' is an egregious example. Every inhabitant of South Park who is not Jewish is Catholic; there are no explicitly Protestant characters (in Real Life Colorado, the State South Park is located in, ''44%'' of the population is Protestant, only ''19%'' is Catholic). But most annoying of all, the show sometimes mock beliefs and ideas that are presented as "Catholic" even though they are, in fact, held by some Protestants but not by the Catholic Church. For instance, they repeatedly assume that the Catholic Church is "against the theory of evolution" which is not the case (see Pius XII' "Humani Generis" (1950) and other declarations by his successors). This can be attributed to series co-creator Trey Parker being RaisedCatholic.
** Other Some gaffes include all the men in town dressing up in ''Ku Klux Klan robes'' (the Klan is a strongly anti-Catholic group) to scare away black families moving into the area (although one of those men was a practicing Jew anyway, so that gag could have just been for RuleOfFunny) and a visiting character from New England referring to the townspeople as "hick jock redneck stereotypes," which would ordinarily denote Protestants.
20th May '18 12:34:07 PM TheNerevarine
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''WesternAnimation/Castlevania2017'' depicts the Church as being Roman Catholic despite the story taking place in Romania, which has been mostly Eastern Orthodox (ironically, the historical Vlad Dracula ''was'' a Catholic). To be fair, in the [[Franchise/{{Castlevania}} original games]] that inspired it also implied the Church was Catholic there as well, though they were very vague about it.
15th Mar '18 6:32:15 AM WeightLiftingGoblin
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* Also averted in EuropeaUniversalis also from the same developers as CrusaderKings. The early game already features historical scenarios of wars between Protestant and Catholic nations with the nation you choosing affecting alliances, travel routes, and objectives. Later games not only expand on the functions such as allowing to convert to different factions, but even puts restrictions and advantages based on religious faction (such as being able to call to Rome to stop an invasion by another Catholic country).
15th Mar '18 6:27:29 AM WeightLiftingGoblin
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* Sorta maybe avoided in ''Manga/{{Trigun}}''. Wolfwood gets glossed as a 'priest' but doesn't act very ordained, and in the anime he carries a traveling confessional, but the one church that appears in the anime ([[spoiler:where Wolfwood dies]]) is much less Catholic than the one in the manga (where Vash hangs out at the start of 'Colorless Emotions'), which featured a ''very'' clerical-looking officiant and some bling.

to:

* Sorta maybe avoided in or at least downplayed ''Manga/{{Trigun}}''. Wolfwood gets glossed as a 'priest' but doesn't act very ordained, and in the anime he carries a traveling confessional, but the one church that appears in the anime ([[spoiler:where Wolfwood dies]]) is much less Catholic than the one in the manga (where Vash hangs out at the start of 'Colorless Emotions'), which featured a ''very'' clerical-looking officiant and some bling.


Added DiffLines:

*** Should be pointed out that in the manga Wolfwood was never officially ordained in what is deemed proper in Catholicism. In fact the religious organization forced him into the ranks of clergy and the organization itself acts so far off that no denomination irl (well at least visibly mainstream) would fit the specific Church he's serving at all. They train initiated men to becoming powerful assassins and frequently order them on hit missions or to patrol and defend areas with criminals, etc. As the manga reveals, elements of the organization are working for knives and doing quite illegal stuff. So in a sense its an aversion.
**** As for WOlfwood's beliefs, they actually did fit in with some Puritannical/Calvinist denominations and many real life Christian military orders-not just Catholic ones such Knights Templars- adopted a mentality similar to Wolfwood's monologue about becoming evil to protect the weak and innocent.


Added DiffLines:

*** Not necessarily. Remember Nightow is in Japan, a country so out of touch with the Christian world and one whose only significant contact with Christianity was with Catholic priestly orders (who were expelled once persecution of Christians began). Before any other denomination could attempt to install a base, the Tokugawan shogunate shut Japan for good and remaining Christians went underground. Even to this day Roman Catholicism is what Japanese people immediately picture with Christianity. Its serious enough that even non-Catholic Christians in Japan often don't realize the differences between denomination which is a heartache problem for Western religious leaders in the country. Also Nightow himself is also specifically a Roman Catholic so it would make sense he'd show Christianity as Catholesque. Although as I mentioned earlier, he mostly downplays the trope and even averts it with how Wolfwood not only has beliefs and lives a lifestyles against Catholic tenets but Wolfwood is part of a dubious organization thats acts very quite unChristian.
26th Feb '18 7:28:27 PM Mdumas43073
Is there an issue? Send a Message


This trope doesn't seem to apply to [[TheWestern Westerns]], where any minister (or "preacher") will generally be portrayed as a black-coated Evangelical Lutheran or Methodist type, when he isn't a Quaker or a Mormon. However, if the film shows the padre of a [[UsefulNotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] village, this trope will be played straight--although frankly [[JustifiedTrope this was usually true]]. It may also appear as part of an EstablishingShot for other traditionally Catholic places such as Italy or France. African-American churches will almost always be depicted as Baptist, Methodist, or Pentecostal, as will white [[DeepSouth Southern]] churches (with the one exception being UsefulNotes/NewOrleans, home to the largest Catholic diocese in the U.S.). And the upper-class WhiteAngloSaxonProtestant, usually residing in the tonier precincts of HollywoodNewEngland and belonging to one of the more venerable "mainline" denominations such as the Episcopal Church,[[note]]Episcopalians have long been a popular choice for writers wishing to show Catholic-style liturgy and aesthetics without the strict lifestyle requirements, or "Catholic Lite" as Creator/RobinWilliams once called it[[/note]] is a stock character of long standing.

to:

This trope doesn't seem to apply to [[TheWestern Westerns]], where any minister (or "preacher") will generally be portrayed as a black-coated Evangelical Lutheran or Methodist type, when he isn't a Quaker or a Mormon. However, if the film shows the padre of a [[UsefulNotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] village, this trope will be played straight--although frankly [[JustifiedTrope this was usually true]]. It may also appear as part of an EstablishingShot for other traditionally Catholic places such as Italy or France. African-American churches will almost always be depicted as Baptist, Methodist, or Pentecostal, as will white [[DeepSouth Southern]] churches (with the one exception being UsefulNotes/NewOrleans, home to the largest Catholic diocese in the U.S.). And Meanwhile, the upper-class WhiteAngloSaxonProtestant, usually residing in the tonier precincts of HollywoodNewEngland and belonging to one of the more venerable "mainline" denominations such as the Episcopal Church,[[note]]Episcopalians have long been a popular choice for writers wishing to show Catholic-style liturgy and aesthetics without the strict lifestyle requirements, or "Catholic Lite" as Creator/RobinWilliams once called it[[/note]] is a stock character of long standing.
26th Feb '18 7:20:48 PM Mdumas43073
Is there an issue? Send a Message


This trope doesn't seem to apply to [[TheWestern Westerns]], where any minister (or "preacher") will generally be depicted as a black-coated Evangelical Lutheran or Methodist type, when he isn't a Quaker or a Mormon. However, if the film shows the padre of a [[UsefulNotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] village, this trope will be played straight--although frankly [[JustifiedTrope this was usually true]]. It may also appear as part of an EstablishingShot for other traditionally Catholic places such as Italy or France. African-American churches will almost always be Baptist, Methodist, or Pentecostal, as will white [[DeepSouth Southern]] churches (the one exception being UsefulNotes/NewOrleans, home to the largest Catholic diocese in the U.S.). And the upper-class WhiteAngloSaxonProtestant, usually residing in the tonier precincts of HollywoodNewEngland and belonging to one of the more venerable "mainline" denominations such as the Episcopal Church,[[note]]Episcopalians have long been a popular choice for writers wishing to show Catholic-style liturgy and aesthetics without the strict lifestyle requirements, or "Catholic Lite" as Creator/RobinWilliams once called it[[/note]] is a stock character of long standing.

to:

This trope doesn't seem to apply to [[TheWestern Westerns]], where any minister (or "preacher") will generally be depicted portrayed as a black-coated Evangelical Lutheran or Methodist type, when he isn't a Quaker or a Mormon. However, if the film shows the padre of a [[UsefulNotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] village, this trope will be played straight--although frankly [[JustifiedTrope this was usually true]]. It may also appear as part of an EstablishingShot for other traditionally Catholic places such as Italy or France. African-American churches will almost always be depicted as Baptist, Methodist, or Pentecostal, as will white [[DeepSouth Southern]] churches (the (with the one exception being UsefulNotes/NewOrleans, home to the largest Catholic diocese in the U.S.). And the upper-class WhiteAngloSaxonProtestant, usually residing in the tonier precincts of HollywoodNewEngland and belonging to one of the more venerable "mainline" denominations such as the Episcopal Church,[[note]]Episcopalians have long been a popular choice for writers wishing to show Catholic-style liturgy and aesthetics without the strict lifestyle requirements, or "Catholic Lite" as Creator/RobinWilliams once called it[[/note]] is a stock character of long standing.
26th Feb '18 7:18:57 PM Mdumas43073
Is there an issue? Send a Message


This trope doesn't seem to apply to [[TheWestern Westerns]], where any minister (or "preacher") will generally be a black-coated Evangelical Lutheran or Methodist type, when he isn't a Quaker or a Mormon. However, if the film shows the padre of a [[UsefulNotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] village, this trope will be played straight--although frankly [[JustifiedTrope this was usually true]]. It may also appear as part of an EstablishingShot for other traditionally Catholic places such as Italy or France. African-American churches are almost always depicted as Baptist or Pentecostal, as are white [[DeepSouth Southern]] churches (the one exception being UsefulNotes/NewOrleans, home to the largest Catholic diocese in the U.S.). And the upper-class WhiteAngloSaxonProtestant, usually residing in the tonier precincts of HollywoodNewEngland and belonging to one of the more venerable "mainline" denominations such as the Episcopal Church,[[note]]Episcopalians have long been a popular choice for writers wishing to show Catholic-style liturgy and aesthetics without the strict lifestyle requirements, or "Catholic Lite" as Creator/RobinWilliams once called it[[/note]] is a stock character of long standing.

to:

This trope doesn't seem to apply to [[TheWestern Westerns]], where any minister (or "preacher") will generally be depicted as a black-coated Evangelical Lutheran or Methodist type, when he isn't a Quaker or a Mormon. However, if the film shows the padre of a [[UsefulNotes/{{Mexico}} Mexican]] village, this trope will be played straight--although frankly [[JustifiedTrope this was usually true]]. It may also appear as part of an EstablishingShot for other traditionally Catholic places such as Italy or France. African-American churches are will almost always depicted as Baptist be Baptist, Methodist, or Pentecostal, as are will white [[DeepSouth Southern]] churches (the one exception being UsefulNotes/NewOrleans, home to the largest Catholic diocese in the U.S.). And the upper-class WhiteAngloSaxonProtestant, usually residing in the tonier precincts of HollywoodNewEngland and belonging to one of the more venerable "mainline" denominations such as the Episcopal Church,[[note]]Episcopalians have long been a popular choice for writers wishing to show Catholic-style liturgy and aesthetics without the strict lifestyle requirements, or "Catholic Lite" as Creator/RobinWilliams once called it[[/note]] is a stock character of long standing.
28th Jan '18 8:02:58 AM Nazetrime
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* Averted in ''Webcomic/StandStillStaySilent'', which is set in the Nordics and hence has Christianity represented by its Lutheran branch, which was the dominant one in that part of the world pre-[[ThePlague Rash]].
16th Dec '17 4:56:29 PM ZeroSD
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

* ''ComicBook/WarriorNunAreala'' by Ben Dunn is about, surprise, a Catholic Nun demon hunter from an order of demon-fighting priests and nuns. It helped kick off the trend of nun demon hunters in indie comic books.
9th Nov '17 11:36:01 PM Fireblood
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* So do many of the submariners in one scene of the film adaptation of ''Film/TheHuntForRedOctober''. An usual HandWave is that they are Lithuanian like their commander, [[Creator/SeanConnery Marko Ramius]].[[note]]Lithuania is the only former Soviet republic with a Catholic majority, about 80%.[[/note]]

to:

* So do many of the submariners in one scene of the film adaptation of ''Film/TheHuntForRedOctober''. An The usual HandWave is that they are Lithuanian like their commander, [[Creator/SeanConnery Marko Ramius]].[[note]]Lithuania is the only former Soviet republic with a Catholic majority, about 80%.[[/note]][[/note]] It's very unlikely that many would be Lithuanian however, given that the USSR had a large Russian majority (who also dominated things).



* In the Creator/JohnCarpenter film ''Film/PrinceOfDarkness'', the Catholic Church was founded to protect the secret calculus formula of Jesus that proved the existence of the Anti-God, until humanity had developed the mathematics to understand it. By the way, in his ''Vampires'' the vampire hunters are funded by the Catholic Church.

to:

* In the Creator/JohnCarpenter film ''Film/PrinceOfDarkness'', the Catholic Church was founded to protect the secret calculus formula of Jesus that proved the existence of the Anti-God, until humanity had developed the mathematics to understand it. By the way, in his ''Vampires'' ''Vampires'', the vampire hunters are funded by the Catholic Church.Church, and a priest ends up helping them.



** The focus on Catholicism versus Protestant is partly because of the ritual trappings of the denominations, partly because of it's longer history in India, and mostly because most Indian Christians are Catholics. Syrian Christian churches are native churches with a longer history, but they are South Indian and rarely do Bollywood films portray South Indian characters or situations.

to:

** The focus on Catholicism versus Protestant Protestantism is partly because of the ritual trappings of the denominations, partly because of it's its longer history in India, and mostly because most Indian Christians are Catholics. Syrian Christian churches are native churches with a longer history, but they are South Indian and rarely do Bollywood films portray South Indian characters or situations.



* In ''Film/HenryPooleIsHere'' the main character, Luke Wilson's, home has a supposed miraculous appearing of the Face of Christ on a wall. The claim is investigated by a priest [[spoiler: played by George Lopez none the less]] along with most of the film using Catholic imagery. Justified by the fact that the movie is set in a suburb of LA and the majority of the surrounding neighbors are Hispanic Catholics.

to:

* In ''Film/HenryPooleIsHere'' the main character, Luke Wilson's, character (Luke Wilson's) home has a supposed miraculous appearing of the Face of Christ on a wall. The claim is investigated by a priest [[spoiler: played by George Lopez none the no less]] along with most of the film using Catholic imagery. Justified by the fact that the movie is set in a suburb of LA and the majority of the surrounding neighbors are Hispanic Catholics. Miracles like this are also most commonly alleged and looked into by Catholics.



* ''Film/HomeMovies'' made an attempt to avert by having the main character be a Methodist '''priest''', complete with a priest collar. He was married and had children which is in keeping with protestant '''ministers''', however.

to:

* ''Film/HomeMovies'' made an attempt to avert by having the main character be a Methodist '''priest''', complete with a priest collar. He was married and had children which is in keeping with protestant Protestant '''ministers''', however.
This list shows the last 10 events of 278. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Main.ChristianityIsCatholic