History Main / ChristianityIsCatholic

21st Feb '17 8:48:30 AM snarkling
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Any time you see Christianity displayed onscreen, there's a strong chance it'll feature exclusively or almost-exclusively Catholic trappings, such as rosaries, the Sign of the Cross, confessional booths, nuns, clerics referred to as "Father", and so on. It could be because Roman Catholicism is the largest branch of Christianity in the world, or it might be because the costumes of Roman Catholic clerics are so [[AwesomeAnachronisticApparel quaint]] and [[GorgeousPeriodDress distinctive]], or perhaps it's the fascination of [[RuleOfSymbolism the mystery and ritual]], or maybe it's that our sex-obsessed society is bewildered by the thought of priests, monks, and nuns taking a [[CelibateHero vow of celibacy]], or that those [[CreepyCathedral ornate and massive Catholic churches make the most awesome sets]], or the usefulness of the [[{{Confessional}} sacrament of confession]] as a narrative device.

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Any time you see Christianity displayed onscreen, there's a strong chance it'll feature exclusively or almost-exclusively Catholic trappings, such as rosaries, the Sign of the Cross, confessional booths, nuns, clerics referred to as "Father", and so on. It could be because Roman Catholicism is the largest branch of Christianity in the world, or it might be because the costumes of Roman Catholic clerics are so [[AwesomeAnachronisticApparel quaint]] and [[GorgeousPeriodDress distinctive]], or perhaps it's the fascination of [[RuleOfSymbolism the mystery and ritual]], or maybe it's that its our sex-obsessed society is bewildered by the thought bewilderment of priests, monks, and nuns taking a [[CelibateHero vow of celibacy]], or that those [[CreepyCathedral ornate and massive Catholic churches make the most awesome sets]], or the usefulness of the [[{{Confessional}} sacrament of confession]] as a narrative device.
5th Feb '17 8:31:02 AM kazokuhouou
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* In ''Film/CSATheConfederateStatesOfAmerica'', it's specifically noted that there was much debate before the CSA declared the Catholic church a Christian one, therefore allowing them to stay in the fiercely Protestant CSA.
5th Feb '17 8:25:50 AM kazokuhouou
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* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/MoralOrel'', set in the decidedly Evangelical Protestant town of Moralton.

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* Averted in ''WesternAnimation/MoralOrel'', set in the decidedly Evangelical Protestant town of Moralton. In fact, the one time Orel and Doughy meet a Catholic, they run away screaming as the Catholic cackles evily (in a town called Sinville, no less).
31st Jan '17 9:01:10 AM LB7979
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* Averted big time in ''Series/SeventhHeaven'' which is all about a Protestant minister and his family. Although the exact denomination is never mentioned hints were dropped a couple of times during the series long run that it was either nondenominational or Disciples of Christ.

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* Averted big time in ''Series/SeventhHeaven'' which is all about a Protestant minister and his family. Although the exact denomination is never mentioned hints were dropped a couple of times during the series long run that it was either nondenominational or Disciples of Christ. Also, inverted InUniverse when daughter Mary marries Catholic Carlos and other family members make a point to remark "They are from different religions...", so apparently to the Camdens, Christianity Is Protestant.
3rd Jan '17 2:36:22 AM jerodast
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* Averted in ''Series/TheOfficeUS'': A handful of characters at Dunder Mifflin identify as Christian, but only Stanley is Catholic; Pam and Darryl are Presbyterian, Phyllis is Lutheran and Angela is some sort of conservative evangelical.

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* Averted in ''Series/TheOfficeUS'': A handful of characters at Dunder Mifflin identify as Christian, but only Stanley is Catholic; Pam and Darryl are Presbyterian, Phyllis is Lutheran and Angela is some sort of conservative evangelical. And God knows what Dwight is but it seems to be some twisted form of Mennonite Anabaptism.


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* Discussed and played with in a ''Series/{{Wonderfalls}}'' episode where a nun considers leaving the Church and a priest tries to convince her to stay. Exorcism is also involved. This seems like playing it straight, until Jaye tells her family she's involved with the nun because she needed religious help with her problems, at which point her mother gently asks her if she knows nuns are Catholic, and her father proudly reminds her of the superiority of their own Protestant faith.
16th Nov '16 1:42:49 PM Discar
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Any time you see Christianity displayed onscreen, there's a strong chance it'll feature exclusively or almost-exclusively Catholic trappings, such as rosaries, the Sign of the Cross, confessional booths, nuns, clerics referred to as "Father", and so on. It could be because Roman Catholicism is the largest branch of Christianity in the world, or it might be because the costumes of Roman Catholic clerics are so [[AwesomeAnachronisticApparel quaint]] and [[GorgeousPeriodDress distinctive]], or perhaps it's the fascination of [[RuleOfSymbolism the mystery and ritual]], or maybe it's that our [[AManIsNotAVirgin sex-obsessed society]] is bewildered by the thought of priests, monks, and nuns taking a [[CelibateHero vow of celibacy]], or that those [[CreepyCathedral ornate and massive Catholic churches make the most awesome sets]], or the usefulness of the [[{{Confessional}} sacrament of confession]] as a narrative device.

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Any time you see Christianity displayed onscreen, there's a strong chance it'll feature exclusively or almost-exclusively Catholic trappings, such as rosaries, the Sign of the Cross, confessional booths, nuns, clerics referred to as "Father", and so on. It could be because Roman Catholicism is the largest branch of Christianity in the world, or it might be because the costumes of Roman Catholic clerics are so [[AwesomeAnachronisticApparel quaint]] and [[GorgeousPeriodDress distinctive]], or perhaps it's the fascination of [[RuleOfSymbolism the mystery and ritual]], or maybe it's that our [[AManIsNotAVirgin sex-obsessed society]] society is bewildered by the thought of priests, monks, and nuns taking a [[CelibateHero vow of celibacy]], or that those [[CreepyCathedral ornate and massive Catholic churches make the most awesome sets]], or the usefulness of the [[{{Confessional}} sacrament of confession]] as a narrative device.
5th Nov '16 8:53:18 AM Meritocrat
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Note that this trope doesn't apply to all countries; outside the U.S., Protestant countries tend to assume Protestantism. The UK default is, naturally, [[TheVicar the Church of England]] - which can variously be depicted as "Anglo-Catholic" (High Church), "Mainline Protestant" (Broad Church), or "Evangelical Protestant" (Low Church). The Russian default is the [[UsefulNotes/OrthodoxChristianity Orthodox church]]. Variants exist for non-Christian religions, too: "Judaism Is Orthodox" (long hair, beards, Hebrew and [[YiddishAsASecondLanguage Yiddish accents]]) and "Buddhism Is Mahayana" (fat, smiling statues and {{koan}}s that may or may not be [[IceCreamKoan be ice cream]]).

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Note that this trope doesn't apply to all countries; outside the U.S., Protestant countries tend to assume Protestantism. The UK default is, naturally, [[TheVicar the Church of England]] - which can variously be depicted as "Anglo-Catholic" (High Church), "Mainline Protestant" (Broad Church), or "Evangelical Protestant" (Low Church). The Russian default is the [[UsefulNotes/OrthodoxChristianity Orthodox church]].church]][[note]]Which despite being the largest single non-Catholic denomination, have not been mentioned once in this introduction before here[[/note]]. Variants exist for non-Christian religions, too: "Judaism Is Orthodox" (long hair, beards, Hebrew and [[YiddishAsASecondLanguage Yiddish accents]]) and "Buddhism Is Mahayana" (fat, smiling statues and {{koan}}s that may or may not be [[IceCreamKoan be ice cream]]).



** Regarding UsefulNotes/{{Islam}}, it's almost always of the largest denomination, Sunni, who gets significant representation in history and media, though the other half, Shia, is starting to get recognized more and more due to the recent political climate. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]], since the Shia has never been able to set an equal footing with the Sunnis (unlike Catholics vs Protestants), they had to essentially blend in, and history had never really set the two apart either (in the medieval era, the entire religion was ''never'' differentiated as something other than "Saracens" by the western world, as shown in ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven''). It's only after [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam the Shia conversion in the Safavid dynasty]] that the Shias have finally managed to get a footing; beforehand, they were an invisible minority. Even if someone recognizes that there's two branches, few are able to distinguish which branch is which, as the differences are primarily concerned with abstract concepts, anyhow.
*** There's also the fact that while small, Shia Islam has such a ''[[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Islam_branches_and_schools.svg bazillion]]'' (note that the three of the branches in Sunni in the picture are outlined as "schools", which means that they are different only in certain laws) subbranches by virtue of being more liberal in its interpretation, some of which have developed into separate religions like the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahá%27í_Faith Bahá'í Faith]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druze Druze]] (making its history quite similar to Protestantism, in fact...). Neither gets more than cursory mentions, and even those are mainly concerned with them being persecuted.
*** And this is before mentioning anything about [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya Ahmadiyya]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibadi Ibadi]]. The former has been horrifically persecuted since their inception, while the latter is hard to understand ''even for Muslims themselves'' due to their preferred method of isolating themselves from others. Oh yeah, absolutely no chance (heck, most Muslims outside of Arabia don't even know the latter exist!).

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** Regarding UsefulNotes/{{Islam}}, it's almost always of the largest denomination, Sunni, who gets significant representation in history and media, though the other half, second-largest, Shia, is starting to get recognized more and more due to the recent political climate. [[JustifiedTrope Justified]], as Sunnis are far more numerically dominant than any Christian sect (~80% of the total Muslim population), and since the Shia has never have almost never[[note]]And until recently, mostly by the now-minority Ismailis[[/note]] been able to set an equal political footing with the Sunnis (unlike Catholics vs Protestants), they had to essentially blend in, and history had never really set the two apart either (in the medieval era, the entire religion was ''never'' differentiated as something other than "Saracens" by the western world, world,[[note]]And often still isn't[[/note]] as shown in ''Film/KingdomOfHeaven''). It's only after [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safavid_conversion_of_Iran_to_Shia_Islam the Shia conversion in the Safavid dynasty]] that the Shias have finally managed to get a footing; beforehand, they were an invisible minority. Even if someone recognizes that there's two branches, few are able to distinguish which branch is which, as the differences are primarily concerned with abstract concepts, anyhow.
*** There's also the fact that while small, Shia Islam has such a ''[[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/66/Islam_branches_and_schools.svg bazillion]]'' (note that the three of the branches in Sunni in the picture are outlined as "schools", which means that they are different only in certain laws) subbranches by virtue of being more liberal in its interpretation, subbranches,[[note]]Though Jafris predominate everywhere except Yemen, even though Ismailis were historically larger.[[/note]] some of which have developed into separate religions like the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahá%27í_Faith Bahá'í Faith]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Druze Druze]] Druze]][[note]]And according to many Muslims, Ahmadis[[/note]] (making its history quite similar to Protestantism, in fact...). Neither gets more than cursory mentions, and even those are mainly concerned with them being persecuted.
*** And this is before mentioning anything about [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya Ahmadiyya]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibadi Ibadi]]. The former has been horrifically persecuted since their inception, while the latter is hard to understand ''even for Muslims themselves'' due to their preferred method of isolating themselves from others. Oh yeah, absolutely no chance (heck, most Muslims outside of Arabia don't even know [[note]]Also helped by the latter exist!).fact that nearly all of them live in Oman, which generally stays out of Middle Eastern headlines.[[/note]]
29th Oct '16 11:31:46 AM Morgenthaler
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** So do many of the submariners in one scene of the film adaptation of ''Film/TheHuntForRedOctober''. An usual HandWave is that they are Lithuanian like their commander, [[Creator/SeanConnery Marko Ramius]].[[note]]Lithuania is the only former Soviet republic with a Catholic majority, about 80%.[[/note]]
* ''Film/TheExorcist''. Obviously, as it is the only church to offer exorcism as a practice.
** This is TruthInTelevision. The Lutheran minister of the parents of the child in the real life case the movie is based on told the parents to get a Catholic priest because Lutherans had no exorcism tradition.
*** Not entirely. Pentecostals and certain Eastern traditions offer their own forms of exorcism. There are also some sects of Baptist who do as well, although it's not common.
*** As do Mormons.
*** And Anglicans - at least, in the UK (used as a plot point in ''Rev'') and Australia.

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** * So do many of the submariners in one scene of the film adaptation of ''Film/TheHuntForRedOctober''. An usual HandWave is that they are Lithuanian like their commander, [[Creator/SeanConnery Marko Ramius]].[[note]]Lithuania is the only former Soviet republic with a Catholic majority, about 80%.[[/note]]
* ''Film/TheExorcist''. Obviously, as it is the only church to offer exorcism as a practice.
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practice. This is TruthInTelevision. The Lutheran minister of the parents of the child in the real life case the movie is based on told the parents to get a Catholic priest because Lutherans had no exorcism tradition.
*** Not entirely. Pentecostals and certain Eastern traditions offer their own forms of exorcism. There are also some sects of Baptist who do as well, although it's not common.
*** As do Mormons.
*** And Anglicans - at least, in the UK (used as a plot point in ''Rev'') and Australia.
tradition.



** Hey, anybody else putting up a little holy city run entirely by clerics here? Mecca is kinda straight out....awfully tolerant of the Pope boys, though. There've got to be other headquarters.



** Actually some priests will say a short prayer before the homily. Often it's the Hail Mary, but I knew one priest who said the Our Father (he said the Catholic version though).



* ''Film/{{Stigmata}}'' is about a priest investigating a woman who has manifested the title wounds and speaks in tongues.
** Made very funny, as (former altar boy) Roger Ebert points out, because the filmmakers think that the woman's having been entered by the Holy Ghost is the same thing as demonic possession.
*** Especially since that means that [[FridgeLogic every Catholic who has received the sacrament of Confirmation]] has been demonically possessed, since according to Catholic belief, the Holy Spirit enters the body during Confirmation.

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* ''Film/{{Stigmata}}'' is about a priest investigating a woman who has manifested the title wounds and speaks in tongues.
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tongues. Made very funny, as (former altar boy) Roger Ebert points out, because the filmmakers think that the woman's having been entered by the Holy Ghost is the same thing as demonic possession.
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possession. Especially since that means that [[FridgeLogic every Catholic who has received the sacrament of Confirmation]] has been demonically possessed, since according to Catholic belief, the Holy Spirit enters the body during Confirmation.



** "Forgive me Father for I have sinned." "That's putting it mildly, 007!"

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** "Forgive -->"Forgive me Father for I have sinned." "\\
"That's putting it mildly, 007!"



* ''Series/TheATeam'': In the DeepSouth, Face disguises himself by wearing a clerical collar. He shortly gets into a conversation with a Daisy Duke-type bare-navel, cut-off-shorts bimbo who ''immediately'' identifies him as a priest and wants to talk about the problems of celibacy.

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* ''Series/TheATeam'': ''Series/TheATeam'':
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In the DeepSouth, Face disguises himself by wearing a clerical collar. He shortly gets into a conversation with a Daisy Duke-type bare-navel, cut-off-shorts bimbo who ''immediately'' identifies him as a priest and wants to talk about the problems of celibacy.



** There were still plenty of Catholics around, even if Elizabeth did her best to kill them off. They shipped in "properly" ordained priests from the continent and hid them from the authorities. It's not that easy to change an entire country's religious beliefs.
*** Elizabeth did NOT try to kill off Catholics, she just wanted them to pay lip service to her Church. Parliament however was less tolerant and kept passing anti-Catholic measures. It's not easy to change an entire country's religious beliefs but by Elizabeth's time the balance had shifted from majority Catholic to majority Protestant.



** There are many Catholics in England, especially in the north, and Charlie and his brother Liam are likely of Irish descent.
** Eko certainly has a Catholic upbringing (remember who his brother is). But he seems to either genuinely not know what he is talking about, or is speaking for a writer who didn't check, with the demand to "make us priests" by signing an alleged "ordination document". In the Catholic church a priest can not make a priest, by signing papers or any other method; only a bishop can (and even he not by signing papers).
*** It was likely just to forge certificates of ordination for them, which would be invalid regardless of who signed.
29th Oct '16 11:24:26 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Dark Angel: The Ascent'' is fairly dripping with Catholicism, with various references to "the One True Church" and an emissary from Heaven referring to God as "the First Cause." Interesting in that it subverts 2,000 years of Christian folklore and, arguably, doctrine in portraying the devils as God's damned-but-still-loyal-and-pious servants, rather than ever-rebellious enemies.

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* ''Dark Angel: The Ascent'' ''Film/DarkAngelTheAscent'' is fairly dripping with Catholicism, with various references to "the One True Church" and an emissary from Heaven referring to God as "the First Cause." Interesting in that it subverts 2,000 years of Christian folklore and, arguably, doctrine in portraying the devils as God's damned-but-still-loyal-and-pious servants, rather than ever-rebellious enemies.
9th Oct '16 8:57:46 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''[[ComicBook/TwoThousandAD 2000 AD]]'' series
** ''Canon Fodder'' stars an [[UpToEleven extremely]] [[ChurchMilitant militant Catholic priest]], who appears to have unrestrained jurisdiction to deliver his particular brand of ass-kicking at will.
** Averted in ''Defoe''. The titular character is an Independent, while the majority of other Christian characters are Independent and Anglican, as was typically of Restoration-era England.
** Parodied in ''Pussyfoot 5'', in which a futuristic Catholic Church makes use of a team of [[{{Stripperiffic}} sexy]] [[ActionGirl female commandos]] for [[RuleOfFunny no readily apparent reason]].

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* ''[[ComicBook/TwoThousandAD 2000 AD]]'' ''ComicBook/TwoThousandAD'' series
** ''Canon Fodder'' ''ComicBook/CanonFodder'' stars an [[UpToEleven extremely]] [[ChurchMilitant militant Catholic priest]], who appears to have unrestrained jurisdiction to deliver his particular brand of ass-kicking at will.
** Averted Subverted in ''Defoe''.''ComicBook/{{Defoe}}''. The titular character is an Independent, while the majority of other Christian characters are Independent and Anglican, as was typically of Restoration-era England.
** Parodied in ''Pussyfoot 5'', ''ComicBook/PussyfootFive'', in which a futuristic Catholic Church makes use of a team of [[{{Stripperiffic}} sexy]] [[ActionGirl female commandos]] for [[RuleOfFunny no readily apparent reason]].
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